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Things you hate that everyone else seems to like?

Mar 20, 2014#1

Naiwen

What are some things that everyone seems to like, but that you, yourself hate? I don't really hate anything, so there's none for me.

Mar 20, 2014#2

Chad Sexington

Neil Gaiman's stuff - I don't hate the man, I've never met him, and I'm sure he's lovely. But I can't stand his writings and other works. I loved the movie adaptation of Stardust, so I gave the book a shot. Nnnnope.

Mar 20, 2014#3

HCGLNS

Wine. To me it's a complete waste of a grape that could have been jam.

Mar 20, 2014#4

Naiwen

Chad Sexington said:
Neil Gaiman's stuff - I don't hate the man, I've never met him, and I'm sure he's lovely. But I can't stand his writings and other works. I loved the movie adaptation of Stardust, so I gave the book a shot. Nnnnope.

Oh my god, I just love Neil Gaiman, how could you not like him? I'm joking. But really, I think his novels are wonderful: Stardust especially.

Mar 20, 2014#5

HCGLNS

I had to google who he was to remember how apathetic I am towards Mr Gaiman.

Mar 20, 2014#6

fade

Some of his stuff is definitely overrated, but sandman and the graveyard book are very good.

Mar 20, 2014#7

GasBandit

Social networking/media.

Mar 20, 2014#8

Just Me

GasBandit said:
Social networking/media.

Ayup, this. With a passion.

Mar 20, 2014#9

Dave

Mother. Fucking. Wall-E.

And Forrest Gump. Terrible movie.

Mar 20, 2014#10

mikerc

Hate may be too strong a word but The Walking Dead. I should like this. I like Kirkman's other works (Invincible is fantastic), I still enjoy works featuring zombies. But I just found Walking Dead a complete chore to read.

Mar 20, 2014#11

HCGLNS

mroosc1979 said:
Hate may be too strong a word but The Walking Dead. I should like this. I like Kirkman's other works (Invincible is fantastic), I still enjoy works featuring zombies. But I just found Walking Dead a complete chore to read.

Hate really is a strong word, and I tend not to use it whenever I can. I can only legitimately say I hate four things in this world, the two men who murdered my aunt, the man who poisoned a friend to watch him suffer and a much darker person is the fourth.

Mar 20, 2014#12

phil

Dave said:
Mother. Fucking. Wall-E.

And Forrest Gump. Terrible movie.

You're like a robot that never learned what this emotion called "love" is.

Unrelated, Dr. Whom is not the best thing on earth

Mar 20, 2014#13

GasBandit

phil said:
You're like a robot that never learned what this emotion called "love" is.

Unrelated, Dr. Whom is not the best thing on earth

Mar 20, 2014#14

Celt Z

Dragonball Z.

Sorry not sorry.

Mar 20, 2014#15

MindDetective

phil said:
You're like a robot that never learned what this emotion called "love" is.

Unrelated, Dr. Whom is not the best thing on earth

You know, nobody ever says Wall-E has emotions. He displays emotive behaviors but that doesn't necessitate feelings. It is interesting to watch that movie with the perspective that the robots were merely designed to imitate emotions as a means of personifying them for the sake of human masters.

Mar 20, 2014#16

Dave

MindDetective said:
You know, nobody ever says Wall-E has emotions. He displays emotive behaviors but that doesn't necessitate feelings. It is interesting to watch that movie with the perspective that the robots were merely designed to imitate emotions as a means of personifying them for the sake of human masters.

No, they made him and the other one fall in love. Which is just fucking stupid.

Mar 20, 2014#17

Celt Z

MindDetective said:
You know, nobody ever says Wall-E has emotions. He displays emotive behaviors but that doesn't necessitate feelings. It is interesting to watch that movie with the perspective that the robots were merely designed to imitate emotions as a means of personifying them for the sake of human masters.

Well, guess who's day you just ruined?

Mar 20, 2014#18

MindDetective

Dave said:
No, they made him and the other one fall in love. Which is just fucking stupid.

Nobody ever says that. Ever. That's the viewer's interpretation entirely.

Mar 20, 2014#19

Dave

MindDetective said:
Nobody ever says that. Ever. That's the viewer's interpretation entirely.

She "kisses" him and he flies around all ecstatic. Then they hold "hands".

Mar 20, 2014#20

MindDetective

Dave said:
She "kisses" him and he flies around all ecstatic. Then they hold "hands".

Those are behaviors, which YOU interpret. You could make any robot today do those things and they wouldn't feel a damn thing.

Mar 20, 2014#21

Dave

MindDetective said:
Those are behaviors, which YOU interpret. You could make any robot today do those things and they wouldn't feel a damn thing.

But they do these things autonomously and of their own volition. You really think they programmed a garbage bot to hold hands or emulate falling in love?

Mar 20, 2014#22

Gilgamesh

Celt Z said:
Dragonball Z.

You'd love my sister. The two of you would get along just fine.

Mar 20, 2014#23

MindDetective

Dave said:
But they do these things autonomously and of their own volition. You really think they programmed a garbage bot to hold hands or emulate falling in love?

No, I would say they programmed them to learn, which Wall-E does by watching Hello Dolly. All of the robots on the Axiom follow scripted behaviors (including some that emote for the sake of humans) and they all start to learn when Wall-E crosses their paths, including Eve.

Mar 20, 2014#24

AshburnerX

MindDetective said:
Those are behaviors, which YOU interpret. You could make any robot today do those things and they wouldn't feel a damn thing.

This... is actually a good point.

Mar 20, 2014#25

Celt Z

Gilgamesh said:
You'd love my sister. The two of you would get along just fine.

I assume you mean Shego? I've read many of her posts over the years and am sorry she hasn't been able to post lately.

Mar 20, 2014#26

Dave

MindDetective said:
No, I would say they programmed them to learn, which Wall-E does by watching Hello Dolly. All of the robots on the Axiom follow scripted behaviors (including some that emote for the sake of humans) and they all start to learn when Wall-E crosses their paths, including Eve.

That's...logical. Damn it. I have no answer. I still hate it but now it's an irrational hatred, you bastard!

Mar 20, 2014#27

AshburnerX

Wall-E: The story of two robots forced to act in love with each other by a cruel programmer who died centuries ago. They would both rather just be computing pi.

Also, "computing pi" is now slang for robot sex.

Mar 20, 2014#28

MindDetective

It boils down a classic debate in artificial intelligence: "Hard" AI (computers can recreate the human mind) and "soft" AI (machines can only ever mimic it but not recreate it). I actually fall on the soft AI side for several reasons, but reserve the possibility that I could be utterly wrong.[DOUBLEPOST=1395363675,1395363638][/DOUBLEPOST]

AshburnerX said:
Wall-E: The story of two robots forced to act in love with each other by a cruel programmer who died centuries ago. They would both rather just be computing pi.

Also, "computing pi" is now slang for robot sex.

Forcing them to act that way isn't cruel if they don't feel anything!

Mar 20, 2014#29

Charlie Don't Surf

AMERICA

Mar 20, 2014#30

AshburnerX

MindDetective said:
Forcing them to act that way isn't cruel if they don't feel anything!

It IS if it was done for cruel, human reasons. Just because the puppet can't feel anything it acts out doesn't mean the person who is forcing them to do it doesn't have their own feeling on the matters.

Mar 20, 2014#31

Celt Z

Charlie Don't Surf said:
AMERICA

Wrong thread.

Mar 20, 2014#32

MindDetective

AshburnerX said:
It IS if it was done for cruel, human reasons. Just because the puppet can't feel anything it acts out doesn't mean the person who is forcing them to do it doesn't have their own feeling on the matters.

I have a poor imagination because I can't conceive of the cruel reasons someone would simulate love...

Mar 20, 2014#33

Ravenpoe

MindDetective said:
I have a poor imagination because I can't conceive of the cruel reasons someone would simulate love...

I've made this garbage collecting robot to love, and even it doesn't love you! Mwahahahahaha!

Mar 20, 2014#34

jwhouk

Zombie movies. Never really got the concept, and it's not my idea of fun.

Mar 20, 2014#35

fade

Dave said:
No, they made him and the other one fall in love. Which is just fucking stupid.

I've noticed you don't like human emotions in non-humans.

Mar 20, 2014#36

Dave

fade said:
I've noticed you don't like human emotions in non-humans.

It's also why I disliked Dick Cheney.

Mar 20, 2014#37

fade

This should cover my list: https://www.halforums.com/search/7915303/

Mar 20, 2014#38

Reverent-one

fade said:
This should cover my list: https://www.halforums.com/search/7915303/

A Halforums error page?

Mar 21, 2014#39

bhamv3

Reverent-one said:
A Halforums error page?

I hate those.

Mar 21, 2014#40

Frank

Diablo style lootathons. I find them incredibly tedious.

CoD style multiplayer military shooters. I also find them, and the people that play them, tedious.

Multi-camera sitcoms with laugh tracks. Every time the fake ass laughter happens, I turn off. Brain just shuts down and I fall into a boredom coma.

Mar 21, 2014#41

jwhouk

MMORPG's and FPS's.

(ducks the dakka)

Mar 21, 2014#42

ThatNickGuy

Not necessarily hate, but I didn't really enjoy either Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad.

With GoT, I made it through one episode and was just way too confused to continue. Far too many characters, clans, mini-factions, etc, to keep straight. And no, showing me some kind of a flowchart or a link that describes each character/faction will not help. In fact, that just further strengthens my point. It's not the job of flowcharts or whatever to help me get into these characters. It's the show's failure to bombard me with so much.

With Breaking Bad, it's not that I even disliked it. There were times I enjoyed it. But when I finished the first season, I didn't honestly feel compelled at all to continue.

Mar 21, 2014#43

GasBandit

Just one question... was the one episode of GoT you watched the first one? Or was it in the middle somewhere?

Mar 21, 2014#44

ThatNickGuy

GasBandit said:
Just one question... was the one episode of GoT you watched the first one? Or was it in the middle somewhere?

The first, of course.

It didn't help that the friend who watched it with me was an uber-fan (of the show and books), so kept explaining things to me throughout the episode. It was confusing enough trying to keep track of everything without him making it worse.

Three other shows that people love that I'm completely ambivalent towards: Adventure Time, Archer, and Venture Bros.

Mar 21, 2014#45

Naiwen

I dislike the Hunger Games. Just don't get why everybody's so hyped up about it. I watched the movies, didn't read the books, by the way.

Mar 21, 2014#46

ThatNickGuy

Naiwen said:
I dislike the Hunger Games. Just don't get the why everybody's so hyped up about it. I watched the movies, didn't read the books, by the way.

Your opinion might differ if you read the books. I would by absolutely no means call them high literature. Some of the writing is, honestly, a little sloppy. But they're very engaging and have some pretty good characters. Certainly much better characters (and writing) than Twilight, that's for damn sure.

Mar 21, 2014#47

Naiwen

ThatNickGuy said:
Your opinion might differ if you read the books. I would by absolutely no means call them high literature. Some of the writing is, honestly, a little sloppy. But they're very engaging and have some pretty good characters. Certainly much better characters (and writing) than Twilight, that's for damn sure.

I dislike Twilight too, but everyone around me seems to love it so much, can't understand why either. Why does everybody like the Twilight series?

Mar 21, 2014#48

Charlie Don't Surf

Gun ownership.

Mar 21, 2014#49

Ravenpoe

ThatNickGuy said:
Not necessarily hate, but I didn't really enjoy either Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad.

With GoT, I made it through one episode and was just way too confused to continue. Far too many characters, clans, mini-factions, etc, to keep straight. And no, showing me some kind of a flowchart or a link that describes each character/faction will not help. In fact, that just further strengthens my point. It's not the job of flowcharts or whatever to help me get into these characters. It's the show's failure to bombard me with so much.

With Breaking Bad, it's not that I even disliked it. There were times I enjoyed it. But when I finished the first season, I didn't honestly feel compelled at all to continue.

This isn't a thread to try to convince others that their dislikes are wrong, but I watched Game of Thrones without reading the books (though I did after) and while I had no idea what was going on in the beginning, it turns out that's entirely ok. Because it does a very good job of presenting a living world, and you pick it up as you go along. Kinda like visiting a foreign country, you pick up the people and places as you spend time there.

And then horrible, horrible things happen.

Mar 21, 2014#50

Frank

Ravenpoe said:
This isn't a thread to try to convince others that their dislikes are wrong, but I watched Game of Thrones without reading the books (though I did after) and while I had no idea what was going on in the beginning, it turns out that's entirely ok. Because it does a very good job of presenting a living world, and you pick it up as you go along. Kinda like visiting a foreign country, you pick up the people and places as you spend time there.

And then horrible, horrible things happen.

The books start you off the same way, not knowing who or what anything is about.

Mar 21, 2014#51

GasBandit

Naiwen said:
I dislike Twilight too, but everyone around me seems to love it so much, can't understand why either. Why does everybody like the Twilight series?

My opinion of you just went up a notch.

Mar 21, 2014#52

ThatNickGuy

Naiwen said:
I dislike Twilight too, but everyone around me seems to love it so much, can't understand why either. Why does everybody like the Twilight series?

I have no idea. Same thing with 50 Shades of Grey. It's horribly, horribly written - worse than Twilight, and that's saying something. Plus, it's literally Twilight BDSM fan-fiction with renamed characters.

I have friends who love Twilight, but for them, it's a huge guilty pleasure. They're well aware of how bad it is on multiple levels.

Mar 21, 2014#53

Naiwen

ThatNickGuy said:
I have no idea. Same thing with 50 Shades of Grey. It's horribly, horribly written - worse than Twilight, and that's saying something. Plus, it's literally Twilight BDSM fan-fiction with renamed characters.

I have friends who love Twilight, but for them, it's a huge guilty pleasure. They're well aware of how bad it is on multiple levels.

The people I know think it's the best vampire books ever, lol.

Mar 21, 2014#54

Ravenpoe

Naiwen said:
The people I know think it's the best vampire books ever, lol.

Are they also teenaged girls? Because no teen has ever had good taste in anything.

And that includes me, I liked shit as a teen. Not like, actual shit, I was never into scatology.

Mar 21, 2014#55

ThatNickGuy

And really, 90% of teen girls (or even some adult girls I know) only like Twilight and other crap because ZOMG CUTE BOYS.

Mar 21, 2014#56

Gilgamesh

ThatNickGuy said:
And really, 90% of teen girls (or even some adult girls I know) only like Twilight and other crap because ZOMG CUTE BOYS.

Most didn't get the books till AFTER the first movie. The majority of those who bought the books initially were lonely housewives.

Mar 21, 2014#57

blotsfan

ThatNickGuy said:
With Breaking Bad, it's not that I even disliked it. There were times I enjoyed it. But when I finished the first season, I didn't honestly feel compelled at all to continue.

I'm just gonna say that I was the exact same way. The only reason I started season two (months after I finished season one) was because of peer pressure.

It gets a lot better.

Mar 21, 2014#58

Naiwen

Ravenpoe said:
Are they also teenaged girls? Because no teen has ever had good taste in anything.

And that includes me, I liked shit as a teen. Not like, actual shit, I was never into scatology.

No, they're Twilight Mums, in their 30rties or 40rties. And they wish their husband was Edward Cullen or Jacob.

Mar 21, 2014#59

ThatNickGuy

Gilgamesh said:
Most didn't get the books till AFTER the first movie. The majority of those who bought the books initially were lonely housewives.

I remember working with this young girl (barely 18 years old) at a video store years ago. I don't remember the actor, but he was in some teen fluff flick. She kept going on about how amazing an actor he was. I asked what made him so great and all she replied with was things like, "Because he's soooooo cute!"

Mar 21, 2014#60

Ravenpoe

Naiwen said:
No, they're Twilight Mums, in their 30rties or 40rties. And they wish their husband was Edward Cullen or Jacob.

Even worse.

Mar 21, 2014#61

Cajungal

I hate Aaron Neville. I don't know if he's generally popular, but people around here really like him. He has the cheesiest voice, the most obnoxious, fake-sounding vibrato, and growing up in Catholic school we listened to his stupid gross version of "Where you there" during Lent. Blech.

Mar 21, 2014#62

Cajungal

My brother didn't rickroll me. He nevilles me. Sometimes he'll call me up and just play his "Ave Maria" over the phone.

Mar 21, 2014#63

Naiwen

Ravenpoe said:
Even worse.

yeah, Twilight Mums are crazier than teenage Twilight fans.

And I also hate Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Lady Gaga, Star Trek, Twilight and the Hunger Games.

Mar 21, 2014#64

ThatNickGuy

Two actors I actively loathe and refuse to see anything they're involved in: Richard Gere and Catherine Zeta Jones. I have absolutely no idea why in either case, but I can't stand them.

Mar 21, 2014#65

GasBandit

ThatNickGuy said:
Two actors I actively loathe and refuse to see anything they're involved in: Richard Gere and Catherine Zeta Jones. I have absolutely no idea why in either case, but I can't stand them.

I'll give you the one reason why so many guys seem to like CZJ.

This one scene from Entrapment.

Mar 21, 2014#66

ThatNickGuy

GasBandit said:
I'll give you the one reason why so many guys seem to like CZJ.

This one scene from Entrapment.

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Mar 21, 2014#67

Charlie Don't Surf

Jennifer Lopez in Steven Soderburgh's "Out of Sight" which is based on an Elmore Leonard novel...................... is better

Mar 21, 2014#68

Ravenpoe

GasBandit said:
I'll give you the one reason why so many guys seem to like CZJ.

This one scene from Entrapment.

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She gave Michael Douglas cancer... and it was worth it.

Mar 21, 2014#69

Cog

Seafood

Mar 21, 2014#70

ThatNickGuy

Cog said:
Seafood

Mar 21, 2014#71

WasabiPoptart

John Green's asinine videos.

Mar 21, 2014#72

Bowielee

The Amazing Spider-Man movie.

Mar 22, 2014#73

klew

Breaking Bad and Dexter

Mar 22, 2014#74

Yoshimickster

A good chunk of Penny Arcade. For the love of fuck- TWO PEOPLE CONVERSING DOES NOT A PUNCHLINE MAKE! I know, they are great guys and their charity helps out a lot of people, but I could never get into this comic no matter how much I tried.

Mar 22, 2014#75

DarkAudit

Family Guy, and to a lesser extent American Dad. Physical and emotional abuse with no consequences as a fucking punchline.

Mar 22, 2014#76

Frank

klew said:
Breaking Bad and Dexter

Nobody has liked Dexter in like 5 years.

Mar 22, 2014#77

Zappit

(Warning: The following statements may trigger the urge to use Disagree button. But it's okay, Charlie. I already know.)

Taylor Swift. I think she's arrogant, and gets into relationships just so she can write lousy country-pop songs about the break-up.

Taco Bell/Chipotle: Let's go buy some diarrhea!

NCAA basketball/football: The only way I give a shit about college sports is if I eat Taco Bell before a game.

Mar 22, 2014#78

Hailey Knight

Zappit said:
Taco Bell/Chipotle: Let's go buy some diarrhea!

I also hate Taco Bell. The last time I went there was seven years ago--the aftermath was so bad that I remember the fucking date. January 14th, 2007. I forget family members' birthdays, but I can remember the final time Taco Bell tore me a new asshole.

Mar 22, 2014#79

Bowielee

I don't know if I just have a gut of steel or if the places I've been to have been cleaner or what, but neither Taco Bell, nor Chipotle have given me any gastrological issues, outside of maybe a little gas.

Mar 22, 2014#80

DarkAudit

Zappit said:
NCAA basketball/football: The only way I give a shit about college sports is if I eat Taco Bell before a game.

Easy to explain. College football hasn't mattered in the Northeast since WWII. Basketball north of NYC since what, ever?

Mar 22, 2014#81

blotsfan

Zappit said:
Taco Bell/Chipotle: Let's go buy some diarrhea!

Thems fighting words. Chipotle is one of the greatest gifts to ever befall mankind.

Mar 22, 2014#82

GasBandit

Here you go, now you can enjoy your Chipotle without all those bloodstains in your underwear!

Mar 22, 2014#83

Bowielee

Sure, for those of you who's digestive systems are wusses

Mar 22, 2014#84

blotsfan

Yeah seriously. I have Chipotle at least once a week and I rarely have blood in my underwear more than twice a month.

Mar 22, 2014#85

GasBandit

I prefer Freebirds. But I know that isn't everywhere, and some of you have to take Chipotle as the closest faximile.

Mar 22, 2014#86

Bowielee

No, but for serious, the whole Chipotle=diarrhea thing is completely lost on me. I've never had this issue.

Mar 22, 2014#87

blotsfan

As I have said before, I went to freebirds once and other than the fact that it was incredibly bland and expensive it wasn't bad.

Mar 22, 2014#88

Gilgamesh

GasBandit said:
I prefer Freebirds. But I know that isn't everywhere, and some of you have to take Chipotle as the closest faximile.

This man has it right, Freebirds is vastly superior.

Hey @blotsfan , do you judge everything in your life permanently by first impressions? That's a pretty metal way to live your life.

Mar 22, 2014#89

blotsfan

If you went to a restaraunt and found that it had the same food as a competitor but it tasted worse, was smaller, and more expensive, how often would you go back?

Mar 22, 2014#90

Gilgamesh

blotsfan said:
If you went to a restaraunt and found that it had the same food as a competitor but it tasted worse, was smaller, and more expensive, how often would you go back?

Tasted worse: many many factors. Doesn't mean it'll taste the same everytime. Could have been a singular bad experience.
Smaller: Both places have a variety of sizes, the largest Freebirds size can feed 4 people. How big do you want them?
More expensive: Um what? Looking at the menu locally AND across the US Chipotle charges more per size. I don't think you thought that one through.

Mar 22, 2014#91

blotsfan

Any freebirds burrito that's as large as chipotle does cost more. It might be cheaper if you get the bare bones, but everything extra there cost extra.

Mar 22, 2014#92

Dei

I don't really think it's all that abnormal to not go back to an eating establishment if you didn't like it the first time. Gotta go with blots here.

Mar 22, 2014#93

Hailey Knight

Chipotle doesn't really give me issues either, even when I get salsa.

Taco Bell though ... gods, that was a nightmare.

Mar 22, 2014#94

Bowielee

Dei said:
I don't really think it's all that abnormal to not go back to an eating establishment if you didn't like it the first time. Gotta go with blots here.

I've only been to Olive Garden once. I hated it, so never went back. I think it would be stupid to return to a business you didn't like.

Mar 22, 2014#95

Naiwen

Zero Esc said:
Chipotle doesn't really give me issues either, even when I get salsa.

Taco Bell though ... gods, that was a nightmare.

Everybody says it tastes good though. Even one thinks they got the Mexican food ever,

Mar 22, 2014#96

Dei

Bowielee said:
I've only been to Olive Garden once. I hated it, so never went back. I think it would be stupid to return to a business you didn't like.

I could eat salad and breadsticks at Olive Garden all day long, but honestly the older I get the more I dislike their entrees.

Mar 22, 2014#97

ThatNickGuy

I hate when you try to have a discussion with someone and all they do is ignore your points so they can keep insulting you and feeling superior.

Mar 22, 2014#98

Hailey Knight

Naiwen said:
Even one thinks they got the Mexican food ever,

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Dei said:
I could eat salad and breadsticks at Olive Garden all day long, but honestly the older I get the more I dislike their entrees.

I don't even remember what I ordered last time I was there because the breadsticks could've been the meal and I would've left satisfied. How do they do that?

Mar 22, 2014#99

Chad Sexington

ThatNickGuy said:
I hate when you try to have a discussion with someone and all they do is ignore your points so they can keep insulting you and feeling superior.

When has that ever happened in the history of mankind? You so cray cray.

WasabiPoptart said:
John Green's asinine videos.

Thank you.

Mar 22, 2014#100

Cajungal

The Olive Garden is a giant ball of meh.

Mar 22, 2014#101

GasBandit

Bowielee said:
I've only been to Olive Garden once. I hated it, so never went back. I think it would be stupid to return to a business you didn't like.

My first job with a W-2 was washing dishes at the Olive Garden. Came home every day reeking of sweat and feta cheese. Still can't eat there to this day.

Mar 22, 2014#102

Reverent-one

Zappit said:
(Warning: The following statements may trigger the urge to use Disagree button. But it's okay, Charlie. I already know.)

Taylor Swift. I think she's arrogant, and gets into relationships just so she can write lousy country-pop songs about the break-up.

I find the whole "Taylor Swift just/mainly writes breakup songs" bit the people has latched onto rather strange. Prior to her latest album, nearly every big song of hers I heard was not breakup related, whether it's about wanting to get together, unrequited love, or a successful relationship, barring that one about her regretting ending a relationship. Then "We're never getting back together" comes out and everyone's all "Oh Taylor Swift, she's a breakup song girl". Did I miss a bunch of her her earlier songs? Was her latest album her biggest one, so a bunch of people only really know her from that?

And count me in with those who think Chiptole's a step up from Taco Bell in terms of not messing with your insides, I find it typical fast food quality, as opposed to Taco Bell's bottom the barrel quality.

Mar 22, 2014#103

drifter

I never understood the Taco Bell hate until I ate at one while traveling. Apparently the two Taco Bells by where I live are phenomenally run.

Mar 22, 2014#104

Gilgamesh

Personally I think writing off a place on a single experience is stupid but I suppose we just see each other as stupid.

Mar 23, 2014#105

Hailey Knight

Gilgamesh said:
Personally I think writing off a place on a single experience is stupid but I suppose we just see each other as stupid.

You probably weren't referring to me, but I'm just gonna clarify my own circumstances that every time I went to Taco Bell I had a bad experience; it was just that the worst one ended it for good.

Honestly, I don't even like their tacos. I don't think they taste good--narrow mush sandwiches. I know why it's trendy with college age kids. You can get a lot of food for pretty cheap.

Mar 23, 2014#106

AshburnerX

Gilgamesh said:
Personally I think writing off a place on a single experience is stupid but I suppose we just see each other as stupid.

It's a very primal and honest reaction, actually. People tend to stop doing things that get them sick because it's a survival mechanism from our old hunter/gatherer days. Even if it was just a single bad experience, they have millions of years of biology telling them not to do it again.

Mar 23, 2014#107

Hailey Knight

AshburnerX said:
It's a very primal and honest reaction, actually. People tend to stop doing things that get them sick because it's a survival mechanism from our old hunter/gatherer days. Even if it was just a single bad experience, they have millions of years of biology telling them not to do it again.

Apparently I have stupid survival instincts for having continued to go back.

And also for not wanting to kill spiders. I only kill them because my Lady MacBeth of a wife makes me.

Mar 23, 2014#108

Gilgamesh

AshburnerX said:
It's a very primal and honest reaction, actually. People tend to stop doing things that get them sick because it's a survival mechanism from our old hunter/gatherer days. Even if it was just a single bad experience, they have millions of years of biology telling them not to do it again.

I guess I just evolved?

Mar 23, 2014#109

Hailey Knight

Gilgamesh said:
I guess I just evolved?

Until you eat something that only hurts the first time, but kills you the second time.

Mar 23, 2014#110

WasabiPoptart

Zero Esc said:
Apparently I have stupid survival instincts for having continued to go back.

I was thinking the same thing about myself. Almost every time I eat fast food, particularly this one cheesesteak place here, I end up with intestinal distress almost immediately. I still eat it. I think it's because I know it's the grease upsetting my stomach rather than spoiled food.

Mar 23, 2014#111

Sparhawk

I greatly dislike the Godfather movies. I just can't stand them, as a story. I can appreciate the way they staged difference scenes and camera angles. but I just can't stand the movies as a whole.

I can't stand mayonnaise or mustard.

I have a flash of hate when I'm in a movie theater and somebody near me (or in front of me) pulls out a cellphone during a movie.

Mar 23, 2014#112

blotsfan

Sparhawk said:
I have a flash of hate when I'm in a movie theater and somebody near me (or in front of me) pulls out a cellphone during a movie.

I don't think thats too uncommon.

Mar 23, 2014#113

GasBandit

Sparhawk said:
I have a flash of hate when I'm in a movie theater and somebody near me (or in front of me) pulls out a cellphone during a movie.

I think most of us hate that too.

Mar 23, 2014#114

Krisken

Family Guy. It's the first thing I think of when a topic like this comes up, and I just can't seem to enjoy it.

Mar 23, 2014#115

Naiwen

Krisken said:
Family Guy. It's the first thing I think of when a topic like this comes up, and I just can't seem to enjoy it.

I don't like Family Guy either.

Mar 23, 2014#116

Hailey Knight

Sparhawk said:
I have a flash of hate when I'm in a movie theater and somebody near me (or in front of me) pulls out a cellphone during a movie.

No one likes this. Even the people who do it will bitch about someone else doing it.

Mar 23, 2014#117

WasabiPoptart

Sparhawk said:
I have a flash of hate when I'm in a movie theater and somebody near me (or in front of me) pulls out a cellphone during a movie.

I'm guilty of this. But I only do it because I'm paranoid that I might have missed a call from the babysitter during a loud scene.

Mar 23, 2014#118

GasBandit

WasabiPoptart said:
I'm guilty of this. But I only do it because I'm paranoid that I might have missed a call from the babysitter during a loud scene.

To heck with your wailing demonspawn, woman! Rob Schneider is in a real pickle! The situation in which he finds himself is not at all what he thought it would be!

Mar 23, 2014#119

Gilgamesh

GasBandit said:
To heck with your wailing demonspawn, woman! Rob Schneider is in a real pickle! The situation in which he finds himself is not at all what he thought it would be!

Mar 23, 2014#120

Naiwen

Sparhawk said:
I greatly dislike the Godfather movies. I just can't stand them, as a story. I can appreciate the way they staged difference scenes and camera angles. but I just can't stand the movies as a whole.

I can't stand mayonnaise or mustard.

I have a flash of hate when I'm in a movie theater and somebody near me (or in front of me) pulls out a cellphone during a movie.

Why? I love the Godfather movies.

Mar 23, 2014#121

Sparhawk

Naiwen said:
Why? I love the Godfather movies.

I don't like them. Don't care for Brando. Don't care for mob movies. Just don't care for the movies. You are free to like them, but I don't have to.

Mar 23, 2014#122

tinabeebz

Cream cheese.
Yogurt.
Mayonnaise.
Alfredo sauce.
Mac n' cheese.
Anything dairy with the exception of ice cream/froyo.

Mar 23, 2014#123

Naiwen

tinabeebz said:
Cream cheese.
Yogurt.
Mayonnaise.
Alfredo sauce.
Mac n' cheese.
Anything dairy with the exception of ice cream/froyo.

Oh god, I can't stand Alfredo sauce, and I don't get why people like it on pasta. It's disgusting to me.

Mar 23, 2014#124

Krisken

I love alfredo, but get violently ill when I eat it.

So in a way, I hate it.

Mar 23, 2014#125

LittleKagsin

Pizza.

Mar 23, 2014#126

Terrik

LittleKagsin said:
Pizza.

Like...all varieties of pizza?

Mar 23, 2014#127

LittleKagsin

Terrik said:
Like...all varieties of pizza?

I can handle homemade pizza (still don't really like it) - made from scratch dough, fresh ingredients - but nearly all other pizza makes me sick. Any brand, any place, any style.

Mar 23, 2014#128

LordRendar

I weep for you.

I loathe sparkling water. Everyone in Germany drinks it, but I can hardly put it into my mouth.
I dont mind softdrinks, but for some reason I just dont like sparkling water.

Mar 23, 2014#129

LittleKagsin

LordRendar said:
I weep for you.

I weep for my friends. Now, I just bring my own food to parties so they don't have to feel bad about ordering pizza.

Are you ready for the other big one? I also don't like chocolate.

Mar 23, 2014#130

Terrik

I hate Spiderman's mechanical webshooters.

Mar 23, 2014#131

Ravenpoe

LittleKagsin said:
I weep for my friends. Now, I just bring my own food to parties so they don't have to feel bad about ordering pizza.

Are you ready for the other big one? I also don't like chocolate.

I'm not going to post chocolate pizza again.

But I'm tempted to.

Mar 23, 2014#132

LordRendar

If I could only eat american chocolate,I wouldnt like it too.

aaaaaw yiss....I just went there. Love skittels though,but this isnt the thread for that.

Mar 23, 2014#133

LittleKagsin

Ravenpoe said:
I'm not going to post chocolate pizza again.

But I'm tempted to.

Mar 23, 2014#134

Krisken

LordRendar said:
If I could only eat american chocolate,I wouldnt like it too.

aaaaaw yiss....I just went there. Love skittels though,but this isnt the thread for that.

But not chocolate skittles. Egads, those were AWFUL.

Mar 23, 2014#135

Hailey Knight

Sparhawk said:
I don't like them. Don't care for Brando. Don't care for mob movies. Just don't care for the movies. You are free to like them, but I don't have to.

No. Someone else likes them--how dare you dislike them.

I've owned The Godfather on DVD since 2006 and still haven't gotten around to watching it.

Mar 24, 2014#136

WasabiPoptart

LittleKagsin said:
Are you ready for the other big one? I also don't like chocolate.

I didn't care for chocolate until I was pregnant with my son.

Mar 24, 2014#137

Frank

I doubt many people have actually eaten real alfredo. Well, they probably have, they just didn't know it.

Shit has no cream in it just oodles of butter and cheese.

If you don't like butter and cheese, well, you're wrong about everything.

Mar 24, 2014#138

WasabiPoptart

Frank said:
I doubt many people have actually eaten real alfredo.

Shit has no cream in it just oodles of butter and cheese.

If you don't like butter and cheese, well, you're wrong about everything.

That's how my daughter likes her pasta. Just butter and Parmesan. I never knew that was alfredo though.

Mar 24, 2014#139

Frank

WasabiPoptart said:
That's how my daughter likes her pasta. Just butter and Parmesan. I never knew that was alfredo though.

Yup!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fettuccine_Alfredo

Mar 24, 2014#140

Chad Sexington

LordRendar said:
I weep for you.

I loathe sparkling water. Everyone in Germany drinks it, but I can hardly put it into my mouth.
I dont mind softdrinks, but for some reason I just dont like sparkling water.

Seriously. My fridge is now a home to several bottles of sparkling water, since my girlfriend moved in, so I tried it again last night. It's definitely not for me.

Mar 24, 2014#141

GasBandit

When did people start calling club soda "Sparkling Water?"

Anyway... good for settling stomachs and cleaning stains.

Mar 24, 2014#142

Chad Sexington

GasBandit said:
When did people start calling club soda "Sparkling Water?"

Anyway... good for settling stomachs and cleaning stains.

Wait.

They're the same thing?

Oh brother. Now I'm even more vexed by the space it takes up in my fridge.

Mar 24, 2014#143

GasBandit

Chad Sexington said:
Wait.

They're the same thing?

Oh brother. Now I'm even more vexed by the space it takes up in my fridge.

And to really blow your mind? Seltzer. You know, the stuff cartoon characters always sprayed each other with? Same thing.

It's all just carbonated water.

Mar 24, 2014#144

Chad Sexington

GasBandit said:
And to really blow your mind? Seltzer. You know, the stuff cartoon characters always sprayed each other with? Same thing.

It's all just carbonated water.

Yeah, I had to go do some research, and bam. We are not ever buying a glass bottle full of seltzer again. What we are going to do, I've decided, is this: http://www.truetex.com/carbonation.htm We'll build our own carbonation! With blackjack! and hookers!

Mar 24, 2014#145

Covar

Why the hell would you buy a glass bottle of the stuff anyway? You can pick up a liter of the stuff in a plastic bottle for less than a buck.

Mar 24, 2014#146

GasBandit

Covar said:
Why the hell would you buy a glass bottle of the stuff anyway? You can pick up a liter of the stuff in a plastic bottle for less than a buck.

Same reason people paid money for Chilean Sea Bass when it was just Patagonian Toothfish by another name. Branding and marketing.

Mar 24, 2014#147

Necronic

Mass Effect

Departed

Both are garbage.

Mar 24, 2014#148

Gared

Well, thankfully I'm not alone on these, but:

Breaking Bad.
George R. R. Martin as an author. I like the GoT show, but his writing style drives me up a fricken wall. There's just something about it that makes me read his books as though he's writing from the point of view of a pretentious prick. I like the story, but I cannot read it anymore.
Guinness.

Mar 24, 2014#149

Covar

Frank Quitely's artwork.

Mar 24, 2014#150

ThatNickGuy

Covar said:
Frank Quitely's artwork.

You're fired.

(Though to be fair, the only time I tend to enjoy Quitely's work is when he works with Morrison. I feel they bring out the best in each other.)

Mar 24, 2014#151

Krisken

Hark! A Vagrant. Can't stand it. I think it got a smile out of me once and that's about it.

My wife hates ham. Hot or cold, really.

Mar 24, 2014#152

ThatNickGuy

Krisken said:
Hark! A Vagrant. Can't stand it. I think it got a smile out of me once and that's about it..

THANK YOU. I tried to get into it but couldn't.

Mar 24, 2014#153

Covar

ThatNickGuy said:
You're fired.

Hey look here's every Frank Quitely drawing:

[DOUBLEPOST=1395691346,1395691218][/DOUBLEPOST]I recall having this debate before, but it's actually given me a good idea for a thread...

Mar 24, 2014#154

ThatNickGuy

Covar said:
I recall having this debate before, but it's actually given me a good idea for a thread...

I think we've this discussion almost as many times as @Bowielee and I have argued over Civil War.

Mar 24, 2014#155

Covar

ThatNickGuy said:
I think we've this discussion almost as many times as @Bowielee and I have argued over Civil War.

I'm pretty sure you're right. In fact as I'm posting this reply, the wheel of destiny is compelling me to comment about how I actually like Gary Frank and his crazy-eyed psyhcos that he draws.

Mar 24, 2014#156

ThatNickGuy

Covar said:
I'm pretty sure you're right. In fact as I'm posting this reply, the wheel of destiny is compelling me to comment about how I actually like Gary Frank and his crazy-eyed psyhcos that he draws.

You mean his army of beaver people? Seriously, the man can't draw a natural looking smile.

Mar 24, 2014#157

Covar

ThatNickGuy said:
You mean his army of beaver people? Seriously, the man can't draw a natural looking smile.

Mar 24, 2014#158

LittleSin

Alan Moore.

I liked V for Vendetta and The Watchmen wellenough but if there was ever an over rated writer...it's him. I think V was probably the most original thing he ever wrote.

I mean...he's a fan fic writer. He is a PAID fan fic writer. And not even a very interesting one. I've read fan fics that have moved me to tears, for gods sakes...but Moore seems to just want to disgust me.

Mar 24, 2014#159

Gilgamesh

LittleSin said:
Alan Moore.

I liked V for Vendetta and The Watchmen wellenough but if there was ever an over rated writer...it's him.

I'm guessing you never read an issue of Swamp Thing? or Killing Joke?

Mar 24, 2014#160

ThatNickGuy

Moore's one of the few writers in the industry that has tried to do more with the medium than just telling a story. He's tried adding new literary techniques. Mind you, he did this almost primarily with Watchmen, but the fact that he did was astonishing. There are new things about Watchmen that I still catch every time I read it. Like the Rorschach issue being almost a literal Rorschach, with pages mirroring each other.

How can you call his stuff like Top 10, Promethea, and Tom Strong fan fiction, though? They were entirely new characters. Yes, they might have been partly influenced or inspired by other works, but so is almost everything in literature. He also did more with Swamp Thing than anyone ever considered before.

And really, most comic book writers today - at least the ones working on the household names from DC and Marvel - are glorified fan fiction writers. They're just writing stories from someone else's work. Superman and Batman has basically just been fan fiction since their respective original creators stopped working on the books.

Mar 24, 2014#161

LittleSin

Gilgamesh said:
I'm guessing you never read an issue of Swamp Thing? or Killing Joke?

Oooo...he did do those didn't he?

Hm. Killing Joke was fantastic.

I haven't read much Swamp Thing but I do remember it fondly...and it kick started Hellblazer which is one of my fav comics so there's that.[DOUBLEPOST=1395698638,1395698245][/DOUBLEPOST]

ThatNickGuy said:
Moore's one of the few writers in the industry that has tried to do more with the medium than just telling a story. He's tried adding new literary techniques. Mind you, he did this almost primarily with Watchmen, but the fact that he did was astonishing. There are new things about Watchmen that I still catch every time I read it. Like the Rorschach issue being almost a literal Rorschach, with pages mirroring each other.

How can you call his stuff like Top 10, Promethea, and Tom Strong fan fiction, though? They were entirely new characters. Yes, they might have been partly influenced or inspired by other works, but so is almost everything in literature. He also did more with Swamp Thing than anyone ever considered before.

And really, most comic book writers today - at least the ones working on the household names from DC and Marvel - are glorified fan fiction writers. They're just writing stories from someone else's work. Superman and Batman has basically just been fan fiction since their respective original creators stopped working on the books.

True, true.

I guess I may be bitter. Things like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Lost Girls, From Hell and a few others left a sour taste in my mouth. I was...cool on Tom Strong and never read Promethea.

The man himself also kind of gives me the heebie jeebies.

So, yeh...maybe it's unfounded but I still can't get over that hurdle of not liking him.

Mar 24, 2014#162

Hailey Knight

Promethea was genius.

Mar 24, 2014#163

Naiwen

I'm sorry, but I hate the Games of Thrones, can't watch it... I know lots of people love it. But what's to like about it, really?

Mar 24, 2014#164

Gilgamesh

Naiwen said:
But what's to like about it, really?

These are my favorite parts of your posts.

Mar 24, 2014#165

Naiwen

Gilgamesh said:
These are my favorite parts of your posts.

Can you tell me why people like it? Because I can't find anything likeable in this series. Actually, I hate it with a passion. Can't read it, can't watch it.

Mar 24, 2014#166

Gilgamesh

Naiwen said:
Can you tell me why people like it? Because I can't find anything likeable in this series. Actually, I hate it with a passion. Can't read it, can't watch it.

I would, but there's already a 1300 post discussion on the intricacies of the books and show just a couple posts down.

Mar 24, 2014#167

GasBandit

Naiwen said:
I'm sorry, but I hate the Games of Thrones, can't watch it... I know lots of people love it. But what's to like about it, really?

It is an intriguing and engaging sociopolitical fantasy that has no happily ever after, which makes it fresh and interesting. It has fully rounded, deep characters that often do not conform to standard fantasy archetypes (other than the Dothraki). Also it has boobs and fucking.

Mar 24, 2014#168

Covar

LittleSin said:
So, yeh...maybe it's unfounded but I still can't get over that hurdle of not liking him.

its not, he's a huge hypocritical sexist asshole.

Mar 24, 2014#169

Ravenpoe

LittleSin said:
Oooo...he did do those didn't he?

Hm. Killing Joke was fantastic.

I haven't read much Swamp Thing but I do remember it fondly...and it kick started Hellblazer which is one of my fav comics so there's that.[DOUBLEPOST=1395698638,1395698245][/DOUBLEPOST]

True, true.

I guess I may be bitter. Things like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Lost Girls, From Hell and a few others left a sour taste in my mouth. I was...cool on Tom Strong and never read Promethea.

The man himself also kind of gives me the heebie jeebies.

So, yeh...maybe it's unfounded but I still can't get over that hurdle of not liking him.

I love Alan Moore, but he can be hit or miss. He's also batshit crazy and I think he might be a witch. Or rather, I think he thinks he might be a witch. But I give him credit for being crazy inventive in his endeavors, and when you're doing stuff like that, you're going to miss the mark from time to time. But when he hits it, goddamn he hits it.

Mar 24, 2014#170

WasabiPoptart

Ravenpoe said:
I think he might be a witch. Or rather, I think he thinks he might be a witch.

Does he weigh the same as a duck?

Mar 24, 2014#171

ThatNickGuy

Covar said:
its not, he's a huge hypocritical sexist asshole.

He is? Citation needed.

Mar 24, 2014#172

grub

WasabiPoptart said:
Does he weigh the same as a duck?

Is he made of wood?

Mar 24, 2014#173

WasabiPoptart

grub said:
Is he made of wood?

Burn him anyway!!

Mar 24, 2014#174

Covar

ThatNickGuy said:
He is? Citation needed.

Read his work, and his comments on anyone in the industry. Considering how much of his work is based on or about other peoples creations (~98%) he really has no leg to stand on when he accuses the entire industry of just ripping off his work and characters. Especially when he claims to have not read anything in the last 20 years (on accounts of everyone being hacks who are just copying him I suppose).

As for the sexist thing, I just gather it from the way he writes his women in the stuff of his I've read. It's not quite Frank Miller bad, but man it's close.

Mar 24, 2014#175

Anonymous

Myself.

Mar 25, 2014#176

AshburnerX

Covar said:
Read his work, and his comments on anyone in the industry. Considering how much of his work is based on or about other peoples creations (~98%) he really has no leg to stand on when he accuses the entire industry of just ripping off his work and characters. Especially when he claims to have not read anything in the last 20 years (on accounts of everyone being hacks who are just copying him I suppose).

As for the sexist thing, I just gather it from the way he writes his women in the stuff of his I've read. It's not quite Frank Miller bad, but man it's close.

About the only legitimate beefs that he has anymore are with Dave Gibbons, who made a ton of money off of the Watchmen movie (and even got to be in it), without mentioning Alan Moore and basically cutting ties with him, and DC comics in general, which has CONTINUALLY fucked Moore over. There was a point they were buying out any company he was working for just to keep him making DC stuff.

Aside from those two though, I think Alan Moore needs to shut the fuck up. He keeps harping on how everyone in the industry needs to grow some balls and make original work, without recognizing that the only reason Alan Moore gets to make original work is because he hit it big with something that originally starred someone else's characters (which were taken from him when it was apparent what he was writing). If Watchmen had kept the Charlton Comics characters instead of the new ones, he wouldn't be nearly as well known or as successful.

Or to put it simply, not everyone is as lucky as Alan Moore. He's an amazing talent but he got lucky with Watchmen.

Mar 25, 2014#177

Covar

AshburnerX said:
Or to put it simply, not everyone is as lucky as Alan Moore. He's an amazing talent but he got lucky with Watchmen.

Watchmen it's self is just a better, more refined take on the "super hero in the real wold" story he first did in Miracleman. Someone else's character, and a blatant Captain Marvel copy.

Mar 25, 2014#178

Necronic

I also have real issues with Alan Moore's attitude. He's not the end all be all of the industry that he thinks he is. Gaiman, Ennis, Ellis, Miller, etc etc... so many other, profoundly good writers out there that aren't known primarily for being bitter about the industry and self-aggrandizing. He's no Art Spieglman, he can get over himself. His whole 'disavowing himself of every movie based on his comics' ticks me off as well. It shows a real...I dunno, arrogance...to never want to see someone else adapt your work. And a lot of those movies are quite good.

And, bringing us back to the original topic (while still talking about Alan Moore), I actually thought the ending for the Watchmen movie was far superior to the ending in the book. The book ending was....I dunno, sort of lazy...kind of arbitrary? I dunno. The movie took the obvious callback that made the whole thing fit together so much better. Not that the movie was great, it had some serious issues, but the ending was far superior.

Also....fwiw....Powers is probably 10x better than Top 10.

Mar 25, 2014#179

GasBandit

Necronic said:
And, bringing us back to the original topic (while still talking about Alan Moore), I actually thought the ending for the Watchmen movie was far superior to the ending in the book.

Kevin Smith agrees with you. He talked about how he liked that it brought the characters back into the ending and made it feel less like a deus ex machina "HEY LOOK ALIEN SQUIDSPLOSIONS!"

Mar 25, 2014#180

Celt Z

Necronic said:
And, bringing us back to the original topic (while still talking about Alan Moore), I actually thought the ending for the Watchmen movie was far superior to the ending in the book.

I have to agree with that. I thought the ending in the book would have seemed a little silly translated to the screen, even if they had left in the build-up with the island and the scientists. The point was still the same, "we have to create a common enemy to unite the world", but I'm kinda glad they switched what it was. I think "deus ex squid-alien" would have been too out of left field, both visually and plot-wise.

And no, I'm not going to spoil-tag that. The book had been out for almost 30 years. If you still haven't read it, tough noogies!

[DOUBLEPOST=1395762132,1395762088][/DOUBLEPOST]

GasBandit said:
Kevin Smith agrees with you. He talked about how he liked that it brought the characters back into the ending and made it feel less like a deus ex machina "HEY LOOK ALIEN SQUIDSPLOSIONS!"

Agh! Ninja'd by Gas!

Mar 25, 2014#181

GasBandit

Celt Z said:
Agh! Ninja'd by Gas!

Gas Ninja is silent. But deadly. :cool:

Mar 25, 2014#182

Covar

I think the movie ending is far inferior when its supposed to bring about world unity by having known US operative Dr. Manhattan massacre major cities around the world.

I wish Alan Moore was a shitty writer, it would make my dislike of him so much easier.

Back on OP; the majority of Matt Fraction's work.

Mar 25, 2014#183

blotsfan

Yeah I haven't read the comic, but after seeing the movie I looked up all the differences and I thought the comic's ending was pretty stupid.

Mar 25, 2014#184

AshburnerX

Necronic said:
I also have real issues with Alan Moore's attitude. He's not the end all be all of the industry that he thinks he is. Gaiman, Ennis, Ellis, Miller, etc etc... so many other, profoundly good writers out there that aren't known primarily for being bitter about the industry and self-aggrandizing. He's no Art Spieglman, he can get over himself. His whole 'disavowing himself of every movie based on his comics' ticks me off as well. It shows a real...I dunno, arrogance...to never want to see someone else adapt your work. And a lot of those movies are quite good.

And, bringing us back to the original topic (while still talking about Alan Moore), I actually thought the ending for the Watchmen movie was far superior to the ending in the book. The book ending was....I dunno, sort of lazy...kind of arbitrary? I dunno. The movie took the obvious callback that made the whole thing fit together so much better. Not that the movie was great, it had some serious issues, but the ending was far superior.

Also....fwiw....Powers is probably 10x better than Top 10.

Top 10 and Smax are great if you are a fan of the silver age or City of Heros/Champions Online.

Mar 25, 2014#185

Covar

it works better, and I think it's supposed to be jarring. It's a crazy moment that knocks everything back onto a good path, It's bizarre because sometimes that what you need to break things out of the existing norm.

Mar 25, 2014#186

sixpackshaker

blotsfan said:
Yeah I haven't read the comic, but after seeing the movie I looked up all the differences and I thought the comic's ending was pretty stupid.

Actually the squid ending was heavily eluded to through out the 12 issues of Watchmen. With out the squid ending the genetically modified cat makes no sense besides "well, he's in the book."

Mar 25, 2014#187

AshburnerX

sixpackshaker said:
Actually the squid ending was heavily eluded to through out the 12 issues of Watchmen. With out the squid ending the genetically modified cat makes no sense besides "well, he's in the book."

This. They built it up pretty well in the book. The real problem is that a giant alien squid from nowhere is really, really silly. It works in the comics where you have time to digest that it's just a fake body made to fool people, but that wouldn't have worked in the pacing of the movie.

Mar 25, 2014#188

Emrys

I read the comic but haven't seen the movie. What was the ending in the movie?

Yes, I know I could go look it up. Humour me.

Mar 25, 2014#189

sixpackshaker

Emrys said:
I read the comic but haven't seen the movie. What was the ending in the movie?

Yes, I know I could go look it up. Humour me.

Ozy just blew up cities with a device that copied Jon's powers. Easier to explain that a very complex plot.

Mar 25, 2014#190

Emrys

Ah, it was directed by Michael Bay.

Thank you.

Mar 25, 2014#191

Celt Z

Zack Snyder. Same difference.

Mar 25, 2014#192

Charlie Don't Surf

The Avengers

Mar 25, 2014#193

Naiwen

I hate the movie Avatar, I think it's over-rated.

Mar 25, 2014#194

Yoshimickster

Naiwen said:
I hate the movie Avatar, I think it's over-rated.

It really is, the only reason to watch it is if you have 3D glasses, are in an Imax theater, and have smoked two bowls first. Otherwise its just Dances with Wolves meets Jurassic Park.

Mar 25, 2014#195

Chad Sexington

Charlie Don't Surf said:
The Avengers

Mm, yeah. I did not enjoy that.

Mar 25, 2014#196

GasBandit

Yoshimickster said:
It really is, the only reason to watch it is if you have 3D glasses, are in an Imax theater, and have smoked two bowls first. Otherwise its just Dances with Wolves meets Jurassic Park.

Mar 25, 2014#197

bhamv3

Avatar's one of those visually spectacular movies, but with nothing new when it comes to plot or characters or themes etc.

I still quite like it though. The visuals alone make it worth watching.

Mar 25, 2014#198

Ravenpoe

bhamv3 said:
Avatar's one of those visually spectacular movies, but with nothing new when it comes to plot or characters or themes etc.

I still quite like it though. The visuals alone make it worth watching.

And blue boobies.

I think that movie made me a furry.

Mar 26, 2014#199

Just Me

Yoshimickster said:
It really is, the only reason to watch it is if you have 3D glasses, are in an Imax theater, and have smoked two bowls first. Otherwise its just Dances with Wolves meets Jurassic Park.

Re-enacted by the Blue Man Group

Mar 27, 2014#200

Covar

The Peanuts Cartoons. Never enjoyed them, just always found them to be incredibly dull. It's not the Peanuts either, I've always enjoyed the strip.

Jun 8, 2014#201

drifter

Got a chance to try Freebirds, and in general I agree with blotsfan; it wasn't bad, but nothing noteworthy about the taste. Not worth the effort of going out of my way to eat there. For now, gonna mark this one as a casualty of the forum hype.

On the flipside, tried a place called Cafe Rio, which is fast casual Mexican. The sweet pork barbacoa was pretty good.

Jun 8, 2014#202

PatrThom

bhamv3 said:
Avatar's one of those visually spectacular movies, but with nothing new when it comes to plot or characters or themes etc.
I still quite like it though. The visuals alone make it worth watching.

It's like a 3D movies tech demo.

--Patrick

Jun 8, 2014#203

checkeredhat

The movie "Up"
I think the first ten minutes are downright beautiful, and after that the movie falls completely apart. If I had to rank every Pixar movie I've seen, Up would be just barely above Cars 2. It's crap.

Jun 8, 2014#204

ThatNickGuy

checkeredhat said:
The movie "Up"
I think the first ten minutes are downright beautiful, and after that the movie falls completely apart. If I had to rank every Pixar movie I've seen, Up would be just barely above Cars 2. It's crap.

Jun 9, 2014#205

ZenMonkey

The Fault in our Stars. The writing ranks just above Stephanie Meyer and just below Dan Brown. And I even read it twice to be sure.

Jun 9, 2014#206

Dave

Below Dan Brown? Yikes. That's low praise indeed.

Jun 9, 2014#207

sixpackshaker

There's nothing wrong with Dan Brown.

Jun 9, 2014#208

Dave

sixpackshaker said:
There's nothing wrong with Dan Brown.

Except his writing, his tired plots, and his infallible protagonists.

Jun 9, 2014#209

ZenMonkey

Dave said:
Below Dan Brown? Yikes. That's low praise indeed.

Um, yes. I mean this is like how the book is written? The character's, like, supposed to be some brilliant wiseass or whatever but her inner monologue is totally a Valley Girl? WHAT IS THIS LIFE????

Jun 9, 2014#210

Null

It's Nicholas Sparks, right? It's two young privileged white people in love and terminal disease is involved, it's gotta be Nicholas Sparks. Especially if there's also an estranged parent somewhere in it.

Jun 9, 2014#211

Ravenpoe

Null said:
It's Nicholas Sparks, right? It's two young privileged white people in love and terminal disease is involved, it's gotta be Nicholas Sparks. Especially if there's also an estranged parent somewhere in it.

It's actually John Green, the guy that does the Mental Floss videos on youtube and one half of the Vlog Brothers.

Jun 9, 2014#212

Null

Wow. That's really disappointing, because his mental floss videos are often entertaining and clever.

Jun 9, 2014#213

GasBandit

I generally don't care for the ouerve of either Green brother.

Jun 9, 2014#214

Ravenpoe

Null said:
Wow. That's really disappointing, because his mental floss videos are often entertaining and clever.

Well, if it helps any, I actually kinda liked The Fault In Our Stars. I mean, it's not super deep art, but for a first book I found it pretty good and enjoyable.

Jun 9, 2014#215

Naiwen

ZenMonkey said:
The Fault in our Stars. The writing ranks just above Stephanie Meyer and just below Dan Brown. And I even read it twice to be sure.

Why are the ratings so high then?

Jun 9, 2014#216

Null

The same reason Stephanie Meyer is a best-seller: there's a lot of stupid kids with money out there.

Jun 9, 2014#217

LittleKagsin

Ravenpoe said:
Well, if it helps any, I actually kinda liked The Fault In Our Stars. I mean, it's not super deep art, but for a first book I found it pretty good and enjoyable.

Not a first book. =^^= It's his fourth I believe.

I don't mind The Fault in our Stars but I don't understand why everyone is losing their mind over it? I mean..c'mon, if you didn't see the ending coming, I would be shocked.

And I find it interesting that he doesn't think it's his best work either. I'll see if I can find it, but he made a post on tumblr about how he feels about it. How it's not his best writing and he sees a lot of flaws in it and I think he's generally surprised it's as popular as it is, since none of his other books have reached any real status.

I do actually like both Hank and John, though.

Jun 9, 2014#218

Ravenpoe

LittleKagsin said:
Not a first book. =^^= It's his fourth I believe.

I don't mind The Fault in our Stars but I don't understand why everyone is losing their mind over it? I mean..c'mon, if you didn't see the ending coming, I would be shocked.

And I find it interesting that he doesn't think it's his best work either. I'll see if I can find it, but he made a post on tumblr about how he feels about it. How it's not his best writing and he sees a lot of flaws in it and I think he's generally surprised it's as popular as it is, since none of his other books have reached any real status.

I do actually like both Hank and John, though.

Huh, for some reason I thought it was his first. Maybe because it's the only one I ever heard of.

Jun 9, 2014#219

LittleKagsin

Ravenpoe said:
Huh, for some reason I thought it was his first. Maybe because it's the only one I ever heard of.

Yep, I would imagine that would be the reason.

But hey, if you liked The Fault in our Stars, you could give his other books a try now.

Jun 9, 2014#220

GasBandit

Naiwen said:
Why are the ratings so high then?

Why is McDonald's the #1 restaurant?

People, in general, are morons and like crap.

Jun 9, 2014#221

Eriol

This tweaked a personal soapbox of mine:

LittleKagsin said:
I don't mind The Fault in our Stars but I don't understand why everyone is losing their mind over it? I mean..c'mon, if you didn't see the ending coming, I would be shocked.

Haven't read the book, so won't comment on that, but wanted to point out this line here: why are people so disappointed if you can see the ending coming? When I read a mystery novel, do you expect to NOT know who did it at the end? Obviously there's degrees here, in that "Oh I didn't know it was the maid, I thought for sure it was the butler!" or whatever, but in any media, you have certain expectations, and yet too often people are disappointed when those expectations are met. I like the good twist as much as anybody else, but walking into Avatar, did you expect to see the marines win in the end? Really? Or are you disappointed that you could "see it coming" that the Joker loses in a Batman movie?

I'm OK with somebody saying "there are no surprises in this movie, it's entirely predictable" and that's a fair critique (a lot/most of network television goes this way IMO these days). But how often do you go into a movie and NOT know the general idea of how it's ending? That's not a fair critique in itself IMO.

Jun 9, 2014#222

LittleKagsin

I say that because people are heralding it is 'so different'. And it's not. So, if I can see an ending coming from something that's 'so different', I don't get why people are saying as such. That's all.

But carry on. Soapbox away.

Jun 9, 2014#223

HCGLNS

I saw the twist in Maleficent coming but not the finale.

Jun 9, 2014#224

Bowielee

HCGLNS said:
I saw the twist in Maleficent coming but not the finale.

Ah, Maleficent, you could have been such a good movie if you had been able to keep a consistent tone.

Jun 9, 2014#225

fade

The appeal of dan brown is that he sets up these easy puzzles that everyone can solve right away amd then feel really smart and smug.[DOUBLEPOST=1402355942,1402355776][/DOUBLEPOST]

GasBandit said:
Why is McDonald's the #1 restaurant?

People, in general, are morons and like crap.

Because for better or worse, McDonalds perfected the recipes that appeal directly to base nutritional urges?

Jun 9, 2014#226

Sparhawk

fade said:
The appeal of dan brown is that he sets up these easy puzzles that everyone can solve right away amd then feel really smart and smug.

Oh man, I've never figured out his stuff.

But then again, I've not read any of it either.

Jun 9, 2014#227

checkeredhat

Oh, oh, I thought of another one.

Watermelon.
Everyone seems to love watermelon, I can't stand it. I've only ever met ONE other person of a like-mind in this regard, and she too, thought she was the only one.[DOUBLEPOST=1402360868,1402360821][/DOUBLEPOST]

ThatNickGuy said:

Things you hate that everyone else seems to like?

Nah, I think I'll stay.

Jun 9, 2014#228

ThatNickGuy

Naiwen said:
Why are the ratings so high then?

Holy shit, you're still around!?

Jun 9, 2014#229

Cajungal

I know next to nothing about TFIOS, except some commercial I heard on Pandora. It sounded like one of those emotionally manipulative movies that girls drag guys to. Maybe it's not, but that's what it sounded like.

Jun 9, 2014#230

PatrThom

The World Cup.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the tournament itself. What I hate is how it seems to have inserted its tendrils into everything around me. I probably can't go more than 100yds or 20min before something tries to jump out and footy me right in the face.

--Patrick

Jun 9, 2014#231

GasBandit

PatrThom said:
The World Cup.

Dear god the World Cup. A thousand times the world cup.

Jun 9, 2014#232

bhamv3

La la la la la, I can't hear you over how awesome England's going to be this year.

Jun 9, 2014#233

Cog

You think you hate the world cup? You can almost ignore it, if you want. When I was a kid, there was no cable and all the local tv channels transmitted all the games. I HATE the world cup.

Jun 9, 2014#234

Jay

4 years ago, Vuvuzelas.

I hope they learnt their lessons and banned all that shit this time around.

Jun 9, 2014#235

WasabiPoptart

Jay said:
4 years ago, Vuvuzelas.

I hope they learnt their lessons and banned all that shit this time around.

Someone brought one of those craptastic things to a football game my son played in. I wanted to shove it in the guy's ass.

Jun 9, 2014#236

Terrik

Well shit. This is the last chance to watch this thing with a real international crowd. Well, better bite the bullet then.

Jun 10, 2014#237

DarkAudit

Jay said:
4 years ago, Vuvuzelas.

I hope they learnt their lessons and banned all that shit this time around.

This year you'll be on the edge of your seat wondering if the stadium will collapse before the end of the match.

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