Windows 11 is here. Anyone taking the plunge yet?
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figmentPez
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I don't think my hardware is allowed to run Win11.
Working in IT, I never go with the initial release of *anything* for at least a few months...
That being said, with new OS releases, I usually wait until "SP1" or whatever first major update comes around.
That being said, with new OS releases, I usually wait until "SP1" or whatever first major update comes around.
While I do have some machines that can run it without issue, the answer is no, I probably won't.
And the reason for that is pretty straightforward--If I am reading this correctly, the TPM2 requirement means that installing Win11 sets Windows up in the TPM with root ownership of your computer. So if you're a DIY box builder (like myself), you build a computer with all your fancy/expensive parts, and then when you install Win11 you have to grant root ownership of your creation over to Windows/Microsoft "forthe children your safety."
It's not for your safety. It's for DRM and authentication purposes (obviously), and they have been pushing this idea since Vista but have yet to demonstrate to me, the consumer, a sufficiently compelling reason why I should need this or would even want it.
So no.
--Patrick
And the reason for that is pretty straightforward--If I am reading this correctly, the TPM2 requirement means that installing Win11 sets Windows up in the TPM with root ownership of your computer. So if you're a DIY box builder (like myself), you build a computer with all your fancy/expensive parts, and then when you install Win11 you have to grant root ownership of your creation over to Windows/Microsoft "for
It's not for your safety. It's for DRM and authentication purposes (obviously), and they have been pushing this idea since Vista but have yet to demonstrate to me, the consumer, a sufficiently compelling reason why I should need this or would even want it.
So no.
--Patrick
Yes.
The Windows 11 start menu moved: How to put it back where it belongs
The Windows Start button should be on the left side of the taskbar. We'll show you where to find the setting to move it back.
www.cnet.com
Cool. That was my primary gripe with W11 so I might get it after the inevitable teething pains have been ironed out.Yes.
The Windows 11 start menu moved: How to put it back where it belongs
The Windows Start button should be on the left side of the taskbar. We'll show you where to find the setting to move it back.
I'm sure I'll need to at work, eventually. At home, I'm on a Mac, but the next family PC will probably be a Windows machine and I guess it depends on how soon I get it or if I put it together myself or not. I'll say, it's possible.
Another thing for @GasBandit to not upgrade to.
GasBandit
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I'll probably end up with it on my work laptop sooner or later, but at on my gaming desktop, windows 7 is still going strong. Though, I have to switch into my dualboot install of 10 now when I want to use VR... but I haven't done that in months and months.
After perusing the /r/Windows11 sub, I checked the device security settings on the desktop. Turns out *all* the hardware security options on the motherboard had been disabled by default since I bought the thing. It wants Secure Boot, TPM, and virtualization all turned on. Since this isn't going to be anything but a Windows box for now, turning them on isn't that big a deal, at least not for *that*.
What is Win11 offering that has you switching?
I haven't really truly switched over yet. The Windows laptop is practically brand new and isn't doing much besides Chrome and MPC Black, so I thought I'd give it a try there first.
Reason #1 to not switch to a new OS so early: Windows 11 bug could reduce Ryzen CPU performance by up to 15%, AMD says
Yeah, now those damn AMDers will have to settle for Intel performance for their chips, which might not be the same as the good old days of Intel dominance, but at least it's something.
A couple of fixes are due next week.
AMD Ryzen CPU's L3 Latency Performance Fix To Be Resolved By Microsoft Through Windows 11 Update on 19th October, CPPC Driver on 21st
AMD will be issuing a fix to the performance degradation issues encountered with Ryzen CPUs in Microsoft's Windows 11 OS next week.
wccftech.com
Win11 pretty much demands that you be running an 8th generation or later CPU, so anyone who didn't buy their computer brand new less than 4 years ago gets left out (8th gen was introduced in Fall of 2017).
--Patrick
I installed it on my work pc. Everything was ok for 3 days and today my mic just stopped working. Nothing I tried fixed the problem and I was afraid that the audio jack was damaged. I rolled back to windows 10 and it's working again. The good news is that it took less than 10 minutes to return to windows 10.
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...unless you want to be very creative with your install, that is:
No New PC Needed: Windows 11 Runs on a 15-Year-Old Intel Pentium 4 Chip
'Windows update still works on this machine and even installed the Patch Tuesday,' says Twitter user 'Carlos S.M.,' who managed to install the OS on the old Intel chip.
"a bit slow" yes I'm sure. But it runs!
--Patrick
How should that even be a thing? I know the new Alder Lake CPUs are causing issues with apps that specifically make decisions based on CPU architecture (e.g., DRM), but swapping out a proc shouldn’t change anything but speed, assuming they’re the same core. Does Win11 hash the CPU ID or serial and then enter some kind of limited mode if it suspects “tampering?” This doesn’t sound like a simple coding error, is what I’m saying.
—Patrick
—Patrick
Further testing suggests it may be an Adrenalin problem.