[Other] The not so funny pic thread (some NSFL or gore)

North_Ranger

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Wait... GasBandit praising Finland? God, the list of side effects on my antibiotics said nothing about hallucinations :p

But thanks, much appreciated. Even though I gotta admit... the line about not having homework? Yeah... totally not true.
 
I'm not sure how I feel about the special ed one...
It's possible for teachers to provide varied learning experiences for students with special needs in a standard classroom. It just requires a little more time and effort on the part of teachers. Of course that wouldn't be so bad if the classroom only had 12 students in it.
 
My wife teaches in a room with mixed students (Gifted and Special Needs) there is a special needs assistant teacher in the room with her to help them.
That I could deal with. However, when I use to work at the Korean school, they'd stick special ed kids in with the other kids and I got no assistance whatsoever. It took all my energy to hold the class together (especially in the early elementary classes) and since most classes( especially the elementary classes) definitely had more than 12, I felt the other students suffered for it. Of course, when I brought this up to the staff, they explained there was a stigma to being/having a special ed kid so most people preferred to pretend nothing was different.
 
In any case, the point of the infographic is exactly that in classes where some kid has special needs, there's a support teacher for them. I love the Finnish education system, but unfortunately I don't think it's easy to copy since there are many cultural an political factors supporting it. For instance:
- How highly valued teachers are, which means that only the smartest get to be teachers.
- Long maternity/paternity leaves, which enable parents to
-teach kids things before starting school, mainly manners I guess.
-bond with their kids. I'm sure in many cases the lack of parent-child relationship is a hindrance to the kid's education.
- A cultural idea that parents are also responsible for the education of their kids (this I'm pulling out of my ass but I think it's a reasonable guess)
 
I, however, find it funny that GasBandit of all people comes here to sing the praises of the near-socialist, state-funded, state-run education system in a country where private schools hardly exist at all :p
 

GasBandit

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I, however, find it funny that GasBandit of all people comes here to sing the praises of the near-socialist, state-funded, state-run education system in a country where private schools hardly exist at all :p
You don't have to be socialist to institute the ideas in the infographic. By that logic, only democratic republics should have been able to build nuclear bombs - after all, why would the commies copy things implemented by the decadent west?
 
You don't have to be socialist to institute the ideas in the infographic. By that logic, only democratic republics should have been able to build nuclear bombs - after all, why would the commies copy things implemented by the decadent west?
True, but part of the high quality of the Finnish system is the fact that it's completely subsidized.
 

GasBandit

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True, but part of the high quality of the Finnish system is the fact that it's completely subsidized.
I don't think it has to be. But to get started, we would have to bust the nation's most powerful, most harmful union structure (the teacher's union). That in and of itself makes the idea pretty impossible, short of complete societal collapse and rebuild.
 
I don't think it has to be. But to get started, we would have to bust the nation's most powerful, most harmful union structure (the teacher's union). That in and of itself makes the idea pretty impossible, short of complete societal collapse and rebuild.
heck, check the success of non-union states for education...
 

GasBandit

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heck, check the success of non-union states for education...
Those states would have an easier time instituting reform. Or are you going to sit there with a straight face and tell me that the union would allow to pass a requirement that anyone who would hold a teaching position must have a master's degree?
 
Those states would have an easier time instituting reform. Or are you going to sit there with a straight face and tell me that the union would allow to pass a requirement that anyone who would hold a teaching position must have a master's degree?
They can institute that if they like, but there will only be 3 teachers in the High School.
 
My bet is PROBABLY fake, some idiot made it as a joke without anonymizing himself then back-pedalled when he realized it could seriously open a police investigation on him if there are any OD deaths in his area. But hey, people have confessed real crimes on the internet before.
 
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