[News] The USA Police State will never satisfy its lust for beating, gassing, and imprisoning minorities
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...you're not surprised that you're not in here frothing at the mouth?
Well...fair enough.
Necronic
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He might have been waving a car past. Not sure though. Clearly more investigation is needed.
sticking point appears to be "knowingly" violated civil rights, which is a pretty high bar. Institutional, implicit racism won't meet that standard, even if present.
There is an interesting trend on Twitter because of this story:
(via Twitter)
(more info: The Washington Post)
Cajungal
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That's kind of a cute sentiment, and I appreciate what they're trying to do, but I have to agree with @sixpackshaker that it's pretty monstrous to use pictures of actual people, period. If we're going to make suggestions, why not ask that the officers use pictures of their own families and see if they think that's funny/fun?
Also, I read in one article that at least one of the pictures was of a kid who'd been arrested. Doesn't make it more okay, I was curious if they'd just been surfing around on Google images/Facebook and chose pictures at random or used ones they already had.
Also, I read in one article that at least one of the pictures was of a kid who'd been arrested. Doesn't make it more okay, I was curious if they'd just been surfing around on Google images/Facebook and chose pictures at random or used ones they already had.
I'm pretty sure that's the point of all of this.
Cajungal
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Yes, I just upped the ante in a way that might actually hit home. Not everyone likes/cares about people-of-the-cloth (depending on the religion/church).
GasBandit
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Short female bike cop in Seattle goes into full panic mode, starts spraying everybody in sight.
The guy on the phone is suing for $500,000. Seattle PD has a history (documented by and reprimanded as a result of federal investigation) of unnecessary overuse of violence.
The guy on the phone is suing for $500,000. Seattle PD has a history (documented by and reprimanded as a result of federal investigation) of unnecessary overuse of violence.
Judging from the cloud flying back into the officers, it looks like she also maced herself and the other officers as well.
GasBandit
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Didn't appear that way to me.
At the 8 second mark, she just sprays out at nothing, and it appears like the mist is blown back towards her and the officers.
NYPD announces new counterterrorism unit... that will also handle protesters.
What's scarier to me is this line of thinking apparently came from the Department of Defense.
What's scarier to me is this line of thinking apparently came from the Department of Defense.
Look, when you spend that much on a counter-terrorism squad, you have to find something for them to do once you find out there isn't a lot of terrorism to counter.
Hey, if you don't protest, you don't have anything to worry about. ::snark::
GasBandit
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Remember that whole "right to have an attorney present" thing? A public defender has been arrested because she refused to let police interrogate her client without her being present. Arrested for resisting arrest - logically, wouldn't you have to be in the process of being arrested for something ELSE before you can resist arrest?
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...or-intervening-between-police-and-her-client/
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...or-intervening-between-police-and-her-client/
Land of the Free™ at it again.
Honestly I think it's more of an attitude that, "We're going to do what the fuck we want here, and if you get in our way we'll arrest you, legitimate reason or not."
That's fairly close to the attitude that I get from my cop friends when they post stuff like this on FB and laugh.
Especially since the whole relevance of the "I can't breathe" thing is because the dude fucking died from it.
I know most cops are good, but their social media presence often comes off as a bunch of posturing thugs who react to every criticism with outrage, sociopathic humor, and veiled threats.
Yes, and what bothered me was their response after I posted a remark in response to that comic asking them if they thought Garner deserved to die from that incident. Two officer friends of mine responded thusly:
- No, I don't think Garner "deserved" to die. I think he deserved to be arrested, NYPD jumped on his ass, and he had numerous health complications that led to his ultimate death. It's sad really, but preventable. The prevention: don't fucking fight the police.
- Did he deserve to die? No. Did he cause the series of events that lead to his death? Yes. The street is not the place to play "I'm an attorney". Compliance with arrest would have prevented that whole series of events
My only response to that is "Comply or Die" is not exactly the slogan you want to be adopting.
I love the way they put his death at the hands of police officers: "numerous health complications" - yeah, like a cop's forearm around his throat and five other cops pressing him into the sidewalk. "series of events" - yeah, a half dozen cops taking him down and killing him.
"Comply or die" is the slogan of a police state, pure and simple. The entire notion of civil disobedience is a stand against it.
"Comply or die" is the slogan of a police state, pure and simple. The entire notion of civil disobedience is a stand against it.
Then the arresting officer will most likely be convicted of a misdemeanor, and either get fined or put on probation.
Eventually.
--Patrick
If the prosecutor pushes for an indictment, which is extremely unlikely. It's much more likely he'll get an official reprimand, desk duty for a week or two, and basically a slap on the wrist, all handled internally without files charged.
GasBandit
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Everything anyone hates about a police organization is tenfold worse in the TSA.
Roger Vanderklok was trying to make his flight to Miami. After a misunderstanding with a TSA agent, he spent 30 minutes being searched. When he asked about filing a complaint against the agent, he was arrested.
Vanderklok had a packet of PowerBars and a heart-monitoring watch in his carry-on bag that looked suspicious going through the x-ray machine. While his bags were being searched, the TSA agent asked if there was any “organic materials” in the bag. Thinking that this meant fruits or vegetables, Vanderlock told the agent no.
After the agents had spent 30 minutes checking his bag, the items were found to be harmless, and Vanderklok was free to go. Upset about the misunderstanding, he told the agent that if he had just explained what organic material meant (PowerBars contain milk, grain and sugar and are considered organic matter.) all of the wasted time could have been avoided. When the agent became confrontational, Vanderklok asked to file a complaint. The agent then confiscated his belongings, called the Philadelphia Police, and accused Vanderklok of “threatening the placement of a bomb” and making “terroristic threats.”
According to Philly.com, “Vanderklok was taken to an airport holding cell, and his personal belongings – including his phone – were confiscated while police “investigated” him.”
Vanderklok was detained for three hours in the holding cell, missing his plane. Then he was handcuffed, taken to the 18th District at 55th and Pine and placed in another cell.
He says that no one – neither the police officers at the airport nor the detectives at the 18th – told him why he was there. He didn’t find out until he was arraigned at 2 a.m. that he was being charged with “threatening the placement of a bomb” and making “terroristic threats.”
After spending 20 hours in jail, Vanderklok’s wife bailed him out. When the dispute went to trial, he was cleared of all charges after surveillance footage backed up his account against the TSA’s claims.
Via Philly.com
Roger Vanderklok was trying to make his flight to Miami. After a misunderstanding with a TSA agent, he spent 30 minutes being searched. When he asked about filing a complaint against the agent, he was arrested.
Vanderklok had a packet of PowerBars and a heart-monitoring watch in his carry-on bag that looked suspicious going through the x-ray machine. While his bags were being searched, the TSA agent asked if there was any “organic materials” in the bag. Thinking that this meant fruits or vegetables, Vanderlock told the agent no.
After the agents had spent 30 minutes checking his bag, the items were found to be harmless, and Vanderklok was free to go. Upset about the misunderstanding, he told the agent that if he had just explained what organic material meant (PowerBars contain milk, grain and sugar and are considered organic matter.) all of the wasted time could have been avoided. When the agent became confrontational, Vanderklok asked to file a complaint. The agent then confiscated his belongings, called the Philadelphia Police, and accused Vanderklok of “threatening the placement of a bomb” and making “terroristic threats.”
According to Philly.com, “Vanderklok was taken to an airport holding cell, and his personal belongings – including his phone – were confiscated while police “investigated” him.”
Vanderklok was detained for three hours in the holding cell, missing his plane. Then he was handcuffed, taken to the 18th District at 55th and Pine and placed in another cell.
He says that no one – neither the police officers at the airport nor the detectives at the 18th – told him why he was there. He didn’t find out until he was arraigned at 2 a.m. that he was being charged with “threatening the placement of a bomb” and making “terroristic threats.”
Via Philly.com
And that's the end of the story, isn't it. 1 guess as to the nothing that will likely happen to the TSA official.
GasBandit
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A suit has now been filed.. we'll see if it gets any traction, but I suspect you are right.
They probably either forgot the camera was there or didn't know which folder on which computer the footage was available on.
Philadelphia police officers Kevin Robinson and Sean McKnight were charged Thursday with assault, criminal conspiracy, reckless endangerment, tampering with public records, making false reports, obstructing the administration of law, and official oppression. The charges were all connected to a single arrest, that of Najee Rivera. According to the police, Rivera ran through a stop sign on his motor scooter, fled the scene, and then attacked the officers when they caught up to him. After his arrest, Rivera was left in the hospital with a broken orbital bone and a number of smaller injuries. After seeing the extent of the injuries, Rivera's girlfriend investigated and found a security camera that had recorded the incident. The footage showed that the officers ran Rivera down as he was driving his scooter and then proceeded to beat him relentlessly. All charges have been dropped against Rivera.
The arrest in question:
(via PINAC, Reason)
In other news,
Peter Liang, the New York Police Officer who accidentally shot and killed Akai Gurley in a housing project stairwell, has been charged with second-degree manslaughter, reckless endangerment, second-degree assault and official misconduct. Reportedly, not only did Liang violate several NYPD directives in unholstering his weapon and patrolling the stairwell, he and his partner did not report the shooting for 6 1/2 minutes. During that time period, Liang texted his union representative for guidance. It is interesting to note that the grand jury that heard Liang's case had only a limited number of witnesses and the officer himself did not testify, making it much more like typical grand juries, unlike some other recent, high-profile cases. (via New York Daily News)
The arrest in question:
(via PINAC, Reason)
In other news,
Peter Liang, the New York Police Officer who accidentally shot and killed Akai Gurley in a housing project stairwell, has been charged with second-degree manslaughter, reckless endangerment, second-degree assault and official misconduct. Reportedly, not only did Liang violate several NYPD directives in unholstering his weapon and patrolling the stairwell, he and his partner did not report the shooting for 6 1/2 minutes. During that time period, Liang texted his union representative for guidance. It is interesting to note that the grand jury that heard Liang's case had only a limited number of witnesses and the officer himself did not testify, making it much more like typical grand juries, unlike some other recent, high-profile cases. (via New York Daily News)
Good.
http://issuehawk.com/igor/2015/02/0...after-surgery-they-break-in-and-kill-him.html
Police officers in North Carolina performing a welfare check fatally shot a 74-year-old veteran.
On Sunday, Gastonia Police Chief Robert Helton held a press conference, telling reporters that family members asked police to check on James Howard Allen after the vet underwent surgery.
Helton said that an officer came to Allen’s home at 10:20 pm on Saturday but no one answered the door. After contacting the Fire Department and Medical Services at 11:30, Helton said a “decision was made to enter the house, concerned that he may be inside in need of emergency assistance.”
Helton explained that Officer Josh Lefevers announced that he was going through the backdoor but found Allen inside pointing a gun at officers.
“He was challenged to lower the gun down,” Helton said. “The gun was pointed in the direction of the officers, and a shot was fired that fatally wounded him.”
Allen’s family slammed the officers’ actions.
“(He) probably woke up, someone’s breaking in on me, so when you’re by yourself you try to protect yourself,” Robert Battle, the victim’s brother-in-law, told WSOC.
Allen’s friend Otis Thompson said his instinct would have been to “grab a gun too… You kicked the man’s door in. He’s disoriented and he’s in his own house, privacy of his own home.”
The North Carolina Bureau of Investigation is investigating the shooting.
Read more at http://issuehawk.com/igor/2015/02/0...reak-in-and-kill-him.html#hvHEfVB07QHeAT71.99
Police officers in North Carolina performing a welfare check fatally shot a 74-year-old veteran.
On Sunday, Gastonia Police Chief Robert Helton held a press conference, telling reporters that family members asked police to check on James Howard Allen after the vet underwent surgery.
Helton said that an officer came to Allen’s home at 10:20 pm on Saturday but no one answered the door. After contacting the Fire Department and Medical Services at 11:30, Helton said a “decision was made to enter the house, concerned that he may be inside in need of emergency assistance.”
Helton explained that Officer Josh Lefevers announced that he was going through the backdoor but found Allen inside pointing a gun at officers.
“He was challenged to lower the gun down,” Helton said. “The gun was pointed in the direction of the officers, and a shot was fired that fatally wounded him.”
Allen’s family slammed the officers’ actions.
“(He) probably woke up, someone’s breaking in on me, so when you’re by yourself you try to protect yourself,” Robert Battle, the victim’s brother-in-law, told WSOC.
Allen’s friend Otis Thompson said his instinct would have been to “grab a gun too… You kicked the man’s door in. He’s disoriented and he’s in his own house, privacy of his own home.”
The North Carolina Bureau of Investigation is investigating the shooting.
Read more at http://issuehawk.com/igor/2015/02/0...reak-in-and-kill-him.html#hvHEfVB07QHeAT71.99