Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats

You americans are just screwed up. I remember fractions and factorization from grade 3.

And as for the marking, ENFORCING stupidity like above will absolutely screw over the student when it comes to things like algebra, where the name of the game is reorganizing variables. If they don't understand early on that both forms are the same, they're MORE screwed later, not less.
You need to remember that public education has both national and state standards in the US, but that national standards can be ignored if that state simply decides not to accept federal money to help run their schools. This is SUPPOSED to be a gun to the head of the states to get them to agree to a unified curriculum (that has room to teach state relevant topics) but the wealthy donors have made for-profit schools their next pet project and are putting folks in office that are perfectly willing to just reject that funding. They -want- public schools to fail because their backers are running the charter and private schools that are the only alternative, which only retain their academic standards by only accepting students who can succeed. So now the gun is at the head of the federal government: they can ether put out a relevant, complete curriculum that will be rejected by bought politicians or they can put out this half-assed shit they've been doing since the 90's just ensure they can keep schools running, period.

That's not even getting into the textbook and equipment issues that start in Texas because it has the largest school districts. Certain companies have defacto monopolies (like Texas Instruments) because of their political connections.

So yes, the education system is completely fucked in the US because some people think they can make a buck off of it, at the expense of the children.
 
I get that CU-Boulder is hosting the Republican debate for the publicity, but it's really funny to me that the Republicans think it's a good idea to do so. Boulder in general is super hippie left, CU is not much different honestly, but that's ok, because the answer is to just not let anyone actually attend. Got it.
 

Necronic

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Apparently Bristol Palin got pregnant again this summer. Out of wedlock. Normally I don't dig into politicians families. Like the stuff with Cheney's daughter, there is no reason to drag her into the muck. But Bristol specifically chose to politicize herself for fame and fortune. She chose to be the soldier of Christ. She chose to talk about the morality and immorality of others and has consistently pushed abstinence only birth control. Then she gets knocked up out of wedlock yet again. And she still has the audacity to complain about how other people manage their own birth control.

And yet again republicans just keep following these people. Sooner or later the republican party is going to have to have a serious come to jesus moment and really take a moment and look at the people it idolizes.
 
Apparently Bristol Palin got pregnant again this summer. Out of wedlock. Normally I don't dig into politicians families. Like the stuff with Cheney's daughter, there is no reason to drag her into the muck. But Bristol specifically chose to politicize herself for fame and fortune. She chose to be the soldier of Christ. She chose to talk about the morality and immorality of others and has consistently pushed abstinence only birth control. Then she gets knocked up out of wedlock yet again. And she still has the audacity to complain about how other people manage their own birth control.

And yet again republicans just keep following these people. Sooner or later the republican party is going to have to have a serious come to jesus moment and really take a moment and look at the people it idolizes.
 

Necronic

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That has GOT to be a photoshop.

Good quote though. I have always felt one of the most overlooked or most misunderstood commandments was the one "Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain". Way I always understood it were the folks that liked to thump the bible as loud as they could in public, implying that their devoutness granted them some degree of God's authority. That to me is a pretty serious sin, and not just religiously.
 
That has GOT to be a photoshop.

Good quote though. I have always felt one of the most overlooked or most misunderstood commandments was the one "Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain". Way I always understood it were the folks that liked to thump the bible as loud as they could in public, implying that their devoutness granted them some degree of God's authority. That to me is a pretty serious sin, and not just religiously.
That is exactly what it means: taking the Lord's name in vain is proclaiming God's authority/displeasure on matters not explicitly talked about in the bible, in order to give weight to your argument (i.e. God/Jesus would want/not want you to do this). It's claiming God supports you when there is no evidence of it.
 
While I absolutely agree with that way of looking at it, I usually just see it defended or interpreted as not cursing with his name. Ah well.

Thing about people like Palin's daughter....Eh. I don't understand why people still believe/follow this sort of people. Not her, specifically - in general: politicians who cry the most about extreme standards, about being good, about Family values, about the War on Drugs, about the Sanctity of Marriage, etc, are usually the ones who least follow their own rules. War on Drugs? Probably using themselves, or did - or they're alcoholic. Sanctity of Marriage? Either divorced three times, or has more affairs than I have shirts. And so on. In many ways, people's failings can be viewed in the "sins" or "lawlessness" they battle against the hardest. Which, you know, in a "I know what damage drugs can do to children, we should protect them" way can be plenty good reason to think a specific issue is important. Mostly they hide their own failings and act as the biggest hypocrites on earth about them, blaming everyone and shaming anyone they can, to protect themselves. It's honestly as bad as people thinking women should wear burka's because they'd get raped if they showed some flesh: the failing isn't the women's, it's yours, if you can't refrain from wanting to assault a woman if you see her hair/arms/back/whatever.

Note that I'm talking about politicians and people who make it their life to attack others over such matters, not anyone who happens to hold such standards, and of course, I'm generalizing.
 

Dave

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That hypocrisy is not just an American thing. Look at the stories coming out about the Taliban and ISIL. It's the ultimate "do as I say, not as I do" thing. Strangely enough, it's always from people in positions of power.
 
I deliberately didn't mention "American" anywhere. The first few examples that spring to my mind are Belgian and other European politicians.
 
According to the new World Migration Report, Brussels is now the world's second-most international city (mind there's a difference between "international" and "multicultural"), only Dubai has more international inhabitants. 62% of all people living here have a different nationality. Huh.
 
I'm not surprised it's happening... it was time for them to come up with another Five Year Plan and they were meeting for it earlier this week. Yes, they still do Five Year Plans... yet another hold over from the old Communist block.
Meh, their last few are hardly more menacing than a new government's plans for their 4 or 5 years in office. They're more guidelines than strict "we will do this" Soviet plans.

China's abandoning it's one-child policy. I wonder how much of this has to do with the fact that a vast swath of their population has no marriage prospects anymore and how much has to do with the fact that they don't have enough workers to support their elderly population?
they should feel free to bring over a few million Syrians or Sub-Saharan Africans who are still dying from droughts and famine and all that joyfulness. Like food, there's plenty of people, they're just badly divided over the globe.
 

GasBandit

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So pretty much everybody agrees, the big loser in last night's Republican primary debate was CNBC.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/29/politics/republican-debate-2015-winners-losers/index.html
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/10/28/3717186/cnbc-debate-moderators-yelling/

The moderators were embarrassingly uninformed and incompetent, the questions were insultingly biased and lacked any substance whatsoever. Even the audience started booing the moderators for asking transparently idiotic "gotcha" questions.

As far as the candidates go, last night is being called the nail in the coffin for Jeb Bush's campaign. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio had big moments - mostly in calling out the CNBC moderators on their bullshit.

FTA: "The questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrate why the American people don't trust the media," the Texas senator said as the audience roared with approval. "This is not a cage match," Cruz said. "And you look at the questions: 'Donald Trump, are you a comic book villain? Ben Carson, can you do math? John Kasich, will you insult two people over here? Marco Rubio, why don't you resign? Jeb Bush, why have your numbers fallen?' How about talking about the substantive issues people care about? The contrast with the Democratic debate where every fawning questions from the media was, Which of you is more handsome and wise?" he said.

The AM radio talking heads have been crowing about that bit all day, now.
 

Necronic

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I dunno, I think a lot of those candidates used the fact that it was CNBC to just outright lie about stuff. CNBC would come at them with a hardball question and the republicans would respond with "I never said that" etc etc. Carson DID actually endorse a bogus medical nutritional supplement company. And Trump DID say Rubio was Zuckerberg's personal senator. Both claims that the candidates laughingly dismissed. They straight up LIED on stage, and they got applause for it because it was mean old NBC.

I have to give Trump some credit though. The question of his bankruptcies came up and man did he lean into that like a champion.

Also can we talk about the fact that Ben Carson looks and sounds exactly like an old Hannibal Buress?



 
Apparently my local electricity company, WE Energies, was imposing a fee on those with solar panels because they didn't like not being able to charge customers for the electricity WE Energies were not producing, justifying this fee as a loss of profit. The commission which allows this is made up of 3 people, 2 of which were appointed by our good friend Scott Walker.

Judge just said yeah, no.
 
Apparently my local electricity company, WE Energies, was imposing a fee on those with solar panels because they didn't like not being able to charge customers for the electricity WE Energies were not producing, justifying this fee as a loss of profit. The commission which allows this is made up of 3 people, 2 of which were appointed by our good friend Scott Walker.

Judge just said yeah, no.
I'm pretty sure the Judge rejected it simply because it would be overturned on appeal anyway. It's a moot point really; 10-20 years from now, solar is going to be cheap enough that it's going to be built on every house as a matter of course and the power companies are just kinda going to need to deal with it. Fuck, it almost is already with government solar subsidies.
 
I'm pretty sure the Judge rejected it simply because it would be overturned on appeal anyway. It's a moot point really; 10-20 years from now, solar is going to be cheap enough that it's going to be built on every house as a matter of course and the power companies are just kinda going to need to deal with it. Fuck, it almost is already with government solar subsidies.
Well, the nice thing about Dane County is it's Madison, which tends to skew progressive in their leanings. In this case I find conservatives who support these kinds of policies to be a weird breed of hypocrite and find this rejection has been one of the few political items to not be hotly contested in the Journal Sentinel comments section. Generally everyone in the public, regardless of political leaning, can agree that people shouldn't have to pay for this.

It's like if we allowed gas stations to charge people with bicycles a fee because they aren't purchasing gasoline.
 
Apparently my local electricity company, WE Energies, was imposing a fee on those with solar panels because they didn't like not being able to charge customers for the electricity WE Energies were not producing, justifying this fee as a loss of profit. The commission which allows this is made up of 3 people, 2 of which were appointed by our good friend Scott Walker.

Judge just said yeah, no.
tl;dr: The judge allowed them to get rid of net metering, but struck down a worse law. In many states people are fighting about net metering, but by making the fight about a worse fee, these utility companies have made it so people are ignoring the fact that net metering is gone, and people are now going to be paid less for their solar power when they sell it to the grid than before this law was passed.



Yowch. They passed a horse through the needle by trying to pass an elephant and hoping people would only attack the elephant. This was a brilliant political maneuver on their part.

Most utilities, up to now, have used what's referred to as "net metering" with solar users attached to the grid. When you put electricity on the grid (ie, sell to the power company) then you would sell at the same rate they sell electricity to you. So if you produced 10kwh during the day, used 5, and put 5 on the grid, then used 5 at night, your bill at the end of the day would be unchanged - you sold as much to the utility as you bought, and under net metering they cost the same, thus you can use the grid as a free battery.

Many utilities are saying that this isn't fair. Using the grid as a battery still invokes transmission costs, and other costs, and under net metering this usage is free. If only 0.1% of the electric grid has such users it's not such a burden, and in fact it's helpful because the solar energy is generated when the electric grid is under its heaviest load during hot summer days.

After a certain point, though, there are too many customers generating power that's still putting a burden on the grid, requiring maintenance and upkeep, and they shouldn't necessarily buy electricity at the same rate they are selling it. When they sell electricity part of that cost isn't energy cost, it's cost to keep the grid running, but when customers sell it back, net metering allows them to skip that maintenance.

So the legislators pushed through a lot of stuff, one of which was to get rid of net metering.

Another was to charge solar and other generators fees for generated power that never made it to the grid.

By trying to push through the second more onerous fees no one is paying attention to the fact that the judge allowed the abolishment of net metering. Solar and other grid users will now receive a lower rate for energy they push on the grid than energy they buy from the grid.

So now the public thinks they've "won" but I'm guessing it was actually a carefully crafted PR move simply to get rid of net metering so utilities can charge solar users for electricity actually pushed onto the grid.
 
We pay a fee for being connected to the grid and using it as a battery (~$13 a month after taxes). At the end of the fiscal year, we'll pay them if we use more than we generate, or they'll pay us if it's the opposite. However, the power company also would only allow us to put enough solar panels on our house to generate 98% of our average yearly power usage, so we should end up pretty close to even anyways.
 
I guess I need to actually find my ballot and drop it off at the rec center at some point today.

As an aside... hahahahaha. I just read the fine print on this property tax hike they want to do to build a new rec center, and hahahahahhaha. No. :p
 
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