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I wouldn't call Nomad controversial, though. He dropped the A because of government disillusionment, not because
he was secretly a fascist lapdog.
I dunno, they're throwing around a lot of "this is the real Steve, no clone no RLD no Skrull." Though they did also say that Spidey was dead for real, and that didn't hold.
I think 616 Wolverine is the only death that's really lasted.
I think 616 Wolverine is the only death that's really lasted.
Oh god... it's the Clone Wars all over again. I hate it when the companies take a stupid stand and try and tell you that something new about the character has been true all along throughout the entire run of the character. I guarantee that when Mark Waid and other good writers did their take on the Cap, they absolutely didn't do so thinking he was secretly a Hydra agent all along.
And someone should slap Tom Brevoort for his stupid comments to the press.
"Marvel Executive Editor Tom Brevoort shed some light on the reveal, with USA Today citing him as telling them that this is "the real Steve Rogers," and not "some clone, shapeshifting Skrull, Life Model Decoy or a Cap from an alternate universe."
Anyone who reads comics know this is a bullshit line to try and generate sales and that shortly after the book sales drop they will reverse it.
And someone should slap Tom Brevoort for his stupid comments to the press.
"Marvel Executive Editor Tom Brevoort shed some light on the reveal, with USA Today citing him as telling them that this is "the real Steve Rogers," and not "some clone, shapeshifting Skrull, Life Model Decoy or a Cap from an alternate universe."
Anyone who reads comics know this is a bullshit line to try and generate sales and that shortly after the book sales drop they will reverse it.
Not according to Nick Spencer...
"Speaking to Entertainment Weekly, writer Nick Spencer added to Brevoort’s statements that this is the real Steve, saying, “Issue 2 will lay a lot of our cards on the table in terms of what the new status quo is, but the one thing we can say unequivocally is: This is not a clone, not an imposter, not mind control, not someone else acting through Steve. This really is Steve Rogers, Captain America himself.”
They did this exact thing with Spider-Man during the clone wars.
It might be the real Steve, but they didn't say anything about mind control.
And if I had a dime for the number of times Steve's been mind-controlled, I could buy Marvel.
Also, hey guys, remember when Professor X was TOTALLY the X-Men traitor all along and revealed himself as Onslaught?!
And if I had a dime for the number of times Steve's been mind-controlled, I could buy Marvel.
Also, hey guys, remember when Professor X was TOTALLY the X-Men traitor all along and revealed himself as Onslaught?!
Except it's not. It's William Burnside.
Also the real Steve Rogers.[DOUBLEPOST=1464209402,1464209363][/DOUBLEPOST]Cosmic cube will get them out of this mess.
We should make betting pools on the next bull-shit event to come up.
And again, I know and you know and everyone knows that it's not permanent, making quotes from comic professionals like the above just stupid.
He changed his name to Steve Rogers!
My bad, some comic creator on twitter retweeted it and I thought they knew better than I did.
Whoops, I hadn't seen that part of his quote never mind. And yep, as you said, the whole thing will be undone in no time.
He did, but he's not the original Rogers (reading up apparently other guys were Cap while Rogers was frozen, I never knew), just some crazy fanboy that got ahold of the SS Serum. Apparently he went and got all brainwashed by Doctor Faustus, the guy running National Force. Sharon Carter was part of it too, I guess, and she's in line to be the next Director of SHIELD (and is dating Cap), so that could be playing a part in the current story.[DOUBLEPOST=1464214803,1464214520][/DOUBLEPOST]Either way, though, this is just another marketing ploy to get people to buy comics for whatever big tie-in event this will lead to (AVENGERS V HYDRA, FIGHT FOR CAP'S MIND!).
I wanted to post a photo of my nephew on Facebook wearing a Captain America shirt, but now I don't want people to get the wrong idea.
Apparently Kevin Feige has dropped Bendis and others from the comic side of things from having any say in future Marvel movies. Considering the garbage direction they lead the comics universe, I'm not surprised.
Is any of that staying anyway? Or is the universe getting erased?
From what I understand after reading Rebirth, Wally comes back and that sets into motion the fact that SOMEONE (aka Dr. Manhattan) erased 10 years from everyone's memory. The Teen Titans had existed, after all. The JSA existed, after all. And that Nu52 Superman wasn't even the real Superman in the first place (someone tells Kal-El, "He's not who you think he is."). So it's technically staying around, but being tweaked.
Okay, so less Nu52 2.0 and more Marvel All New All Different, where the history is still there in the ways they want and the title rebooted to issue 1, but not an absolute reset.
Bingo. It shares a lot with Secret Wars, ironically enough. Tweaks to more or less the same universe and rebooting all the titles back to #1, for better or for worse.
What's funny about saying they'll fix Cap back to normal once his book sales go down, is that this is his #1. Steve Rogers Captain America #1. And he says "Hail Hydra." Great introduction from book with the name Captain America on the cover.
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This is my big hang-up on this. We - you and I and everyone here and everyone who has every read a comic - knows this isn't going to stay forever. But what is Marvel's intention here? this is certainly not the way to bring in new, young readers who may have fallen in love with the character on the big screen...it almost feels like they're more sabotaging their comic division. It just makes no damn sense.
They wanted attention. And they got it. They think that all attention is good attention and this will translate into money. I think that's a pre-internet conception. This isn't like Doc Ock as Spider-man--Captain America is a big deal right now thanks to the movies. They're trying to make the comic ride the movies' coattails with a tweest like this, but really I think they're going to find people rejecting this more than buying it.
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...it just kind of seems like the Marvel-Comic people and the DC-Movie people are the same damn people. none of this is sensible...
If they turn Dr. Manhattan into The Beyonder I'm gonna take a flamethrower to the whole lot of 'em.
Don't worry, they're completely different. The Beyonder is a stand in for comic book fans/creators, and Dr. Manhattan is a stand in for Captain Atom.If they turn Dr. Manhattan into The Beyonder I'm gonna take a flamethrower to the whole lot of 'em.
For now. For now.
figmentPez
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Well, as they say:
Until Captain America declares himself a Hydra agent, Make Mine Marve.....
Oh. Nevermind.
Until Captain America declares himself a Hydra agent, Make Mine Marve.....
Oh. Nevermind.
figmentPez
Staff member
Next from Marvel Comics:
- Charles Xavier reveals himself a member of the KKK
- Tony Stark declares himself allergic to WiFi signals and other EM radiation, and gives up all technology to live in a radio dead zone near a deep space listening telescope.
- Spider-Man opens a secret door, showing all the wallets he's stolen off of people over the years while pretending to protect them from other muggers.
- Charles Xavier reveals himself a member of the KKK
- Tony Stark declares himself allergic to WiFi signals and other EM radiation, and gives up all technology to live in a radio dead zone near a deep space listening telescope.
- Spider-Man opens a secret door, showing all the wallets he's stolen off of people over the years while pretending to protect them from other muggers.
Fun fact! Before Secret Wars, Xavier died and Red Skull put part of his brain into his own to get Xavier's powers.
So Xavier kind of was a KKK member for awhile.
So Xavier kind of was a KKK member for awhile.
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- Spider-Man reveals he meant to kill Gwen Stacy.