I wouldn't call Nomad controversial, though. He dropped the A because of government disillusionment, not becauseIt wouldn't be the first time that Captain America was written to do something controversial. There was a period where he was Nomad.
Not according to Nick Spencer...I dunno, it probably means it isn't a clone, a Skrull, a decoy, or from an alternate universe. That still leaves options like time travel, mind control, deliberately lying now for some sort of subterfuge,....
Except it's not. It's William Burnside.
Also the real Steve Rogers.[DOUBLEPOST=1464209402,1464209363][/DOUBLEPOST]Cosmic cube will get them out of this mess.
It might be the real Steve, but they didn't say anything about mind control.
And if I had a dime for the number of times Steve's been mind-controlled, I could buy Marvel.
Also, hey guys, remember when Professor X was TOTALLY the X-Men traitor all along and revealed himself as Onslaught?!
And again, I know and you know and everyone knows that it's not permanent, making quotes from comic professionals like the above just stupid.Not according to Nick Spencer...
"Speaking to Entertainment Weekly, writer Nick Spencer added to Brevoort’s statements that this is the real Steve, saying, “Issue 2 will lay a lot of our cards on the table in terms of what the new status quo is, but the one thing we can say unequivocally is: This is not a clone, not an imposter, not mind control, not someone else acting through Steve. This really is Steve Rogers, Captain America himself.”
They did this exact thing with Spider-Man during the clone wars.
He changed his name to Steve Rogers!Except it's not. It's William Burnside.
Whoops, I hadn't seen that part of his quote never mind. And yep, as you said, the whole thing will be undone in no time.And again, I know and you know and everyone knows that it's not permanent, making quotes from comic professionals like the above just stupid.
He did, but he's not the original Rogers (reading up apparently other guys were Cap while Rogers was frozen, I never knew), just some crazy fanboy that got ahold of the SS Serum. Apparently he went and got all brainwashed by Doctor Faustus, the guy running National Force. Sharon Carter was part of it too, I guess, and she's in line to be the next Director of SHIELD (and is dating Cap), so that could be playing a part in the current story.[DOUBLEPOST=1464214803,1464214520][/DOUBLEPOST]Either way, though, this is just another marketing ploy to get people to buy comics for whatever big tie-in event this will lead to (AVENGERS V HYDRA, FIGHT FOR CAP'S MIND!).He changed his name to Steve Rogers!
Is any of that staying anyway? Or is the universe getting erased?In other news, DC killed off New 52 Superman, leaving Pre-Flashpoint Superman as the only Superman. I guess Marvel needed something to overshadow the death of (a) Superman, and this certainly fits the bill.
From what I understand after reading Rebirth, Wally comes back and that sets into motion the fact that SOMEONE (aka Dr. Manhattan) erased 10 years from everyone's memory. The Teen Titans had existed, after all. The JSA existed, after all. And that Nu52 Superman wasn't even the real Superman in the first place (someone tells Kal-El, "He's not who you think he is."). So it's technically staying around, but being tweaked.Apparently Kevin Feige has dropped Bendis and others from the comic side of things from having any say in future Marvel movies. Considering the garbage direction they lead the comics universe, I'm not surprised.
Is any of that staying anyway? Or is the universe getting erased?
Okay, so less Nu52 2.0 and more Marvel All New All Different, where the history is still there in the ways they want and the title rebooted to issue 1, but not an absolute reset.From what I understand after reading Rebirth, Wally comes back and that sets into motion the fact that SOMEONE (aka Dr. Manhattan) erased 10 years from everyone's memory. The Teen Titans had existed, after all. The JSA existed, after all. And that Nu52 Superman wasn't even the real Superman in the first place (someone tells Kal-El, "He's not who you think he is."). So it's technically staying around, but being tweaked.
Bingo. It shares a lot with Secret Wars, ironically enough. Tweaks to more or less the same universe and rebooting all the titles back to #1, for better or for worse.Okay, so less Nu52 2.0 and more Marvel All New All Different, where the history is still there in the ways they want and the title rebooted to issue 1, but not an absolute reset.
What's funny about saying they'll fix Cap back to normal once his book sales go down, is that this is his #1. Steve Rogers Captain America #1. And he says "Hail Hydra." Great introduction from book with the name Captain America on the cover.
They wanted attention. And they got it. They think that all attention is good attention and this will translate into money. I think that's a pre-internet conception. This isn't like Doc Ock as Spider-man--Captain America is a big deal right now thanks to the movies. They're trying to make the comic ride the movies' coattails with a tweest like this, but really I think they're going to find people rejecting this more than buying it.This is my big hang-up on this. We - you and I and everyone here and everyone who has every read a comic - knows this isn't going to stay forever. But what is Marvel's intention here? this is certainly not the way to bring in new, young readers who may have fallen in love with the character on the big screen...it almost feels like they're more sabotaging their comic division. It just makes no damn sense.
If they turn Dr. Manhattan into The Beyonder I'm gonna take a flamethrower to the whole lot of 'em.Bingo. It shares a lot with Secret Wars, ironically enough. Tweaks to more or less the same universe and rebooting all the titles back to #1, for better or for worse.
Don't worry, they're completely different. The Beyonder is a stand in for comic book fans/creators, and Dr. Manhattan is a stand in for Captain Atom.If they turn Dr. Manhattan into The Beyonder I'm gonna take a flamethrower to the whole lot of 'em.
For now. For now.Don't worry, they're completely different. The Beyonder is a stand in for comic book fans/creators, and Dr. Manhattan is a stand in for Captain Atom.
- Spider-Man reveals he meant to kill Gwen Stacy.Next from Marvel Comics:
- Charles Xavier reveals himself a member of the KKK
- Tony Stark declares himself allergic to WiFi signals and other EM radiation, and gives up all technology to live in a radio dead zone near a deep space listening telescope.
- Spider-Man opens a secret door, showing all the wallets he's stolen off of people over the years while pretending to protect them from other muggers.