Rogue One is made by the same people? You've really killed my excitement.Anyone who didn't like Godzilla 2014 should be more concerned about Rogue One.
Rogue One is made by the same people? You've really killed my excitement.Anyone who didn't like Godzilla 2014 should be more concerned about Rogue One.
I think Disney stepped in to move things their way, enough that the director said he doesn't want to do big budget movies after this and stepped down from Godzilla 2, hence that movie's delay to 2019. I'm hoping Godzilla vs Kong sticks to 2020 though.Rogue One is made by the same people? You've really killed my excitement.
One of the writers from Godzilla is still there, but more as an assist; the story itself is by the other screenwriter who had nothing to do with Godzilla. Godzilla's director Gareth Edwards is on Rogue One though; he was initially given creative freedom but then Disney changed their minds and reshot a good chunk of the movie. Rogue One could still be fine, but whatever changes were made clearly disheartened Edwards.I just assumed there were some of the same people involved because of the Vs movie.
As a trailer, it now has my interest....Well, this is looking more serious.
After "The Good Dinosaur" bombed probably.When did Pixar hire Zack Snyder?
It's a decent Paul Newman movie.In all seriousness, though, my son loved Cars
Cars definitely had enough novelty to stand apart.*sigh* I'm so sick of the "It's just like this!" argument.
It's most likely just because they feel low-quality when compared to the general quality of most of Pixar's output.I honestly never understood the hate for the Cars movies. They're definitely low on the list of Pixar movies, but that doesn't mean they're not enjoyable or unwatchable.
I don't think I agree. I didn't watch the second one, granted. But the first one's plot was another movie's with CTRL-F search and replace. If that triggers Nick, then so be it.Cars definitely had enough novelty to stand apart.
You're being super melodramatic right now. All the way back to the "sigh" thru the above quote.[DOUBLEPOST=1479844221,1479844172][/DOUBLEPOST]Triggers? Fuck off.
From wisened old heads in a backwards rustic setting, right down to the same "ahyuck" accent.I've heard this comparison before, and I don't really see it to be honest. I mean, yeah, at 30000 feet they're similar, but beyond that, they seem about as similar as any other "young hotshot learns the true meaning of friendship" movie.
Because I am sick and tired of this argument. I'm sorry, but I am. After years of studying literature and storytelling, you see patterns and influences in EVERYTHING. Shakespeare blatantly lifted things from his peers all the time, but you don't hear people dismissing his work because of it.You're being super melodramatic right now. All the way back to the "sigh" thru the above quote.
I'm still with Nick on this one. Plot points overlap but there is plenty of things different, including characters, setting, and yes, plot points. It is its own movie, especially for audiences that never saw Doc Hollywood (which you don't suppose borrowed from something too?)You're being super melodramatic right now. All the way back to the "sigh" thru the above quote.[DOUBLEPOST=1479844221,1479844172][/DOUBLEPOST]
From wisened old heads in a backwards rustic setting, right down to the same "ahyuck" accent.
Actually, they did, at the time. He was accused of plagiarism multiple times. But it was, you know, 400 years ago. So now it's a footnote.Because I am sick and tired of this argument. I'm sorry, but I am. After years of studying literature and storytelling, you see patterns and influences in EVERYTHING. Shakespeare blatantly lifted things from his peers all the time, but you don't hear people dismissing his work because of it.
Your threshold for similarity is obviously set at a different level to trigger the "unoriginal" alarm than mine.I'm still with Nick on this one. Plot points overlap but there is plenty of things different, including characters, setting, and yes, plot points. It is its own movie, especially for audiences that never saw Doc Hollywood (which you don't suppose borrowed from something too?)
It's dismissive is my problem. It's basically saying, "Ooh, it's just like this thing, so it must suck!" That's all I hear every time someone brings up Avatar.Actually, they did, at the time. He was accused of plagiarism multiple times. But it was, you know, 400 years ago. So now it's a footnote.
"The plot was derivative and unoriginal" is a valid criticism. It can be lessened by other factors in the movie, naturally, and do note that I said it was my only issue with Cars, not that it damned it into being an unforgivably bad movie.It's dismissive is my problem. It's basically saying, "Ooh, it's just like this thing, so it must suck!" That's all I hear every time someone brings up Avatar.
It actually depends upon shared experiences for it to be a valid criticism for someone other than you. That is, they need to be familiar with the inspiration material for it to detract from their experience. And even then, the original could still be worse less polished in plenty of ways. "Derivative and original" is much more subjective than other criticisms, since it relies on individual experiences in order to establish the reference in the first place."The plot was derivative and unoriginal" is a valid criticism. It can be lessened by other factors in the movie, naturally, and do note that I said it was my only issue with Cars, not that it damned it into being an unforgivably bad movie.
That's as may be, but subjectivity is inherent to opinions on a movie, isn't it? I'm not espousing an objective fact here, I didn't say "Cars is a bad movie because its plot is lifted from Doc Hollywood." I said...It actually depends upon shared experiences for it to be a valid criticism for someone other than you. That is, they need to be familiar with the inspiration material for it to detract from their experience. And even then, the original could still be worse less polished in plenty of ways. "Derivative and original" is much more subjective than other criticisms, since it relies on individual experiences in order to establish the reference in the first place.
... that it was the only thing I didn't like about the movie.The only thing that I didn't like about Cars was that it was a retelling of Doc Hollywood in the same way that Avatar was a retelling of Dances with Wolves.
And that's a nice way of saying "ripped off."