True. They might be a Jewish attorney.
Oh, god, even more proof I'm racist. My attorney is Arabic!
Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats
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Oh, god, even more proof I'm racist. My attorney is Arabic!
This was posted on Twitter yesterday. smh
Black voters decided an accused pedophile was not worthy of the senate.
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Truth.
Man, if the Dems win in Alabama - Alabama - just imagine how 2018 is going to go.
It'd be hilariously ironic if Trump boldly claimed the election was rigged.
You know when Alabama goes blue, you fucked up.
You know when your candidate has a history of molesting teenage girls and saying that things were better under slavery, you fucked up.
...without it looking too much like a remake of the beginning of Blazing Saddles, you mean.
I agree with @Dave, though. That winning margin ought to have been a LOT larger.
--Patrick
Keep in mind that I don't understand how a lot of politics work, but now that a Democrat is senator, can they do things to repeal and prevent the voter suppression?
That is up to local government, the guy who was elected was to a national branch.
I have to wonder why none of you are capable of understanding why someone might choose one over the other, knowing all the pieces about each of them that you know.
Do any of you have the ability to understand people with differing priorities and desires, or are you all so narrow minded that you are incapable of such empathy?
Please don’t take this as an endorsement of Moore. I don’t like him and I don’t know much about the other person except what others are saying about him.
But if America continues, like many of you, to actively refuse to try and understand the other side, we will most assuredly get worse than better.
Do any of you have the ability to understand people with differing priorities and desires, or are you all so narrow minded that you are incapable of such empathy?
Please don’t take this as an endorsement of Moore. I don’t like him and I don’t know much about the other person except what others are saying about him.
But if America continues, like many of you, to actively refuse to try and understand the other side, we will most assuredly get worse than better.
When that 98% is voting against someone who's literally said that America was better during slavery and that it's problems would be solved if not only black people, but women, couldn't vote, I'm not surprised that 98% of black women said nope.
Being superconservative, anti abortion, pro tax cuts for the rich,... are things I myself don't like, but definitely don't make you a bad person. I know plenty of right wing conservative politicians I admire for their ethical stances and so on.
If Pence had been elected president, politics-wise, it'd probably be worse in many ways for liberals, more would get done to further the right wing "Christian" agenda.
Having people who actively undermine any semblance of proper, respectful behavior, who normalize the KKK and neonazis, and so on and so forth, in power, is a serious danger to a lot of actual factual American values. I've said before that the NSDAP got elected on, by modern American standards, pretty left-wing policies and actions. Normalisation of discrimination and aggression is what paved the way for their later misdeeds and transgressions.
The lines of what is "normal", what is acceptable, what is proper, are shifting. Debate dies as polarisation increases. None of this is ONLY the fault of the right. But it's still very, very problematic to watch in real life.
If Pence had been elected president, politics-wise, it'd probably be worse in many ways for liberals, more would get done to further the right wing "Christian" agenda.
Having people who actively undermine any semblance of proper, respectful behavior, who normalize the KKK and neonazis, and so on and so forth, in power, is a serious danger to a lot of actual factual American values. I've said before that the NSDAP got elected on, by modern American standards, pretty left-wing policies and actions. Normalisation of discrimination and aggression is what paved the way for their later misdeeds and transgressions.
The lines of what is "normal", what is acceptable, what is proper, are shifting. Debate dies as polarisation increases. None of this is ONLY the fault of the right. But it's still very, very problematic to watch in real life.
It's because Alabama has a ton of hardcore evangelicals, which would be considered an insane cult if there weren't so many of them.
I wonder:
Did Roy Moore ever say that slavery was a better condition than the one that is currently prevailing? Or did he actually say that, on balance, things were better in that specific time period, regardless of the evils of slavery? I mean, which ever period of history one thinks that their country/state/whatever was at the height of their achievements, I'm sure someone can dig up something that was 'wrong' in the period according to modern interpretation, and spin it to their advantage.
Regarding child molestation, has he ever been convicted of it in accordance with due process, or are we still in the "innocent/guilty until proven otherwise" territory? After all, he was a contender in a senatorial election. I'm not sure all the dirt that gets thrown around at election time is necessarily factually accurate.
To be sure, I'm not saying the voters in Alabama made the wrong decision. They voted according to what they believed was right, based on their knowledge of the candidates at the time, just like we all do. I just wonder if Roy Moore was truly the pro-slavery child-molesting dirtbag that some interest groups seem to make him out to be.
He is
Well, he said one way to fix a lot of problems in the US is to get rid of every amendment after the 10th.
That includes the abolishing of slavery, voting rights, etc.
The quote used to vilify him on this matter could be understood either way. I think to understand his position on slavery and racism you'd have to take a look into his history and how he's voted over time in his various elected positions. So I can't really speak to that, but the wikipedia article on him seems comprehensive:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Moore
No, he hasn't. Even assuming the allegations are true the statute of limitations is past so he couldn't be convicted criminally. There's possibility of a civil suit, but it would be hard to press such a case successfully without evidence, and now that he's out of the race there's little incentive for anyone to do so.
If the allegations had been made prior to the primary, Moore probably wouldn't have been the republican choice, but they were stuck with him, needed to hold onto that senate seat, and they went to bat for him.
Again, the wikipedia article dates all the allegations to nearly 40 years ago, and even if they were prosecutable, the laws at that time were not nearly as strict as they are now. Even under today's sexual assault laws in Alabama (adopted in 1977 - so right about the time the allegations occur) his acts could be considered a misdemeanor (though repeated acts would be considered a Class C felony).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Moore#Sexual_misconduct_allegations
If there were more recent allegations, or if the allegations fell under the legal definition of rape, then certainly he would have been rejected much more robustly.[DOUBLEPOST=1513177552,1513177011][/DOUBLEPOST]Doug Jones is pretty moderate, all things considered:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Jones_(attorney)#Platform_and_views