The ability to completely filter what is coming out of any actor/comedian/artist's mouth in nearly real time is terrifying.Man, seeing non-artists applaud this is soul destroying. All of the chanting that being an artist will soon be like being a blacksmith.
Yeah, the death of culture because everything is filtered through some corporate machine is sure something to cheer.
Literally nothing has made me lose any and all hope in life more than the rise of AI.
I specifically meant that it makes me apprehensive since the lack of transparency means I cannot definitively rule out the possibility that the person(s) managing the simulation did not introduce their own bias(es) into the finished product, polluting that final product with what is essentially subtle deceit and/or propaganda dressed in Carlin's voice.That's literally what happened here though, right? An AI writing comedy and attributing it to someone who's long dead, presumably to get more views and income for whoever controls the AI?
I feel like your attempt to find a distinction is, in effect, pointless. There is no possibility of a 'pure' creation because an AI cannot create. It is bereft of originality, by pure definition of what it is. There is no creation without the biases of its creators as well as the works its creators had it plagiarize.I specifically meant that it makes me apprehensive since the lack of transparency means I cannot definitively rule out the possibility that the person(s) managing the simulation did not introduce their own bias(es) into the finished product, polluting that final product with what is essentially subtle deceit and/or propaganda dressed in Carlin's voice.
There is a Japanese phrase I was trying to find which translates to something like "Faithful Copy." It describes an attempt to recreate/reproduce something, but in a manner which is as much of a tribute/homage of the original as possible, such as a museum might do to restore an ancient artifact. It is distinctly opposite from a word such as "Forgery," because while both describe an attempt to emulate something as closely as possible, one is doing so to deceive, while the other's entire purpose is to honor the original.
This effort is certainly an attempt to copy/reproduce, but while I do not believe it was created as an intentional attempt at forgery, I DEFINITELY do not believe its purpose was to be a "faithful copy."
--Patrick
I understand you. I am saying that there is a distinction between "We fed this AI a shit-ton of George Carlin as a tech demo to show how awesome our AI is and look what came out" and "We made this because we are huge fans of George Carlin and took these tools and tuned them to output something that would honor his legacy, not ours."There is no creation without the biases of its creators as well as the works its creators had it plagiarize.
I was hoping you would at least get through the part about how AI will mean the death of stand-up comedy. I agree that it suffers greatly from some kind of stand-up version of the uncanny valley, where it's almost close enough but obviously doesn't have the "flow" that Carlin would have ensured. George was an absolute master of language and how to employ it, and his routines were like gallery pieces painstakingly and exactingly carved from ebony and bone, then posed and exhibited with excruciating care. This was more like a white-and-black plastic 3D printed version in a tourist gift shop's window. Close enough to make you double-take at first, but obvious when inspected.I tried to watch it all and didn’t get as far as I thought I would. The voice was off most of the time. The thoughts [...] had some jarring transitions that George wouldn’t have used.
This is where I disagree. I don't think there's any difference, because I don't see any way an AI reconstruction could honor anyone's legacy. It can't create new George Carlin, and even if it somehow -could- the idea that the artistry of a person can be distilled into a product to produce is, to me, the very death of art. If so called fans truly want to honor his work, they could do so by furthering causes he believed in, not committing cultural necrophilia that he would more than likely hate.I understand you. I am saying that there is a distinction between "We fed this AI a shit-ton of George Carlin as a tech demo to show how awesome our AI is and look what came out" and "We made this because we are huge fans of George Carlin and took these tools and tuned them to output something that would honor his legacy, not ours."
I disagree with this assessment. Live comedy will always be something people go to see. HBO specials are something different, but even that would require a human to write the material. At least for now AI is absolutely unable to write meaningful social commentary that's original. Oh, they will absolutely steal material from others...I was hoping you would at least get through the part about how AI will mean the death of stand-up comedy. I agree that it suffers greatly from some kind of stand-up version of the uncanny valley, where it's almost close enough but obviously doesn't have the "flow" that Carlin would have ensured. George was an absolute master of language and how to employ it, and his routines were like gallery pieces painstakingly and exactingly carved from ebony and bone, then posed and exhibited with excruciating care. This was more like a white-and-black plastic 3D printed version in a tourist gift shop's window. Close enough to make you double-take, but obvious when inspected.
--Patrick
Dear God, they've made Carlos MenciaOh, they will absolutely steal material from others...
To honor him?Dear God, they've made Carlos Mencia
As do I. For the record, I do not believe AI will mean the death of stand-up. I was merely describing which specific segment I thought you would find most relevant to your interests.I disagree with this assessment.
That's not even a good poem!
And mouse over, "the really sad part is when they start deepfaking themselves for affirmation"Omitted red button text: "I didn't realize how traumatic reality is until I 100% checked out."
--Patrick