Gas Bandit's Political Thread III

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Espy said:
Oh, well you're just talking about the Michael Moore interview style. People love that *. It's barely a step up from Jerry Springer but it has less boobs.
Yup, He does that too. I hate when he does that. Sometimes he makes good points, but undermines his whole point by later attacking Dick Clark. Lame.
 
Krisken said:
Espy said:
Oh, well you're just talking about the Michael Moore interview style. People love that *. It's barely a step up from Jerry Springer but it has less boobs.
Yup, He does that too. I hate when he does that. Sometimes he makes good points, but undermines his whole point by later attacking * Clark. Lame.
Yea, there's a reason neither I nor my more liberal friends have any respect for Michael Moore.
 
Sad state of media that unfortunately seems to be considered by all in it to be legitimate journalism. I'll maintain the best journalists and reporters out there are the sports media. People in the News should take a good hard look at themselves in a mirror.
 
I always found it best not to have any respect for anyone... and try to judge their points regardless of their stupidity...
 
So a blogger takes some comments that O'Reilly made out of context to try to make him look bad. O'Reilly gets mad and his producer does a surprise interview with her and takes her comments out of context to make her look bad. Blogger is now mad that O'Reilly is unfair. :facepalm:

I'm not a fan of O'Reilly, but they are both idiots.
 
Shakey said:
So a blogger takes some comments that O'Reilly made out of context to try to make him look bad. O'Reilly gets mad and his producer does a surprise interview with her and takes her comments out of context to make her look bad. Blogger is now mad that O'Reilly is unfair. :facepalm:

I'm not a fan of O'Reilly, but they are both idiots.
Wait, what did the blogger take out of context?
 
Krisken said:
Shakey said:
So a blogger takes some comments that O'Reilly made out of context to try to make him look bad. O'Reilly gets mad and his producer does a surprise interview with her and takes her comments out of context to make her look bad. Blogger is now mad that O'Reilly is unfair. :facepalm:

I'm not a fan of O'Reilly, but they are both idiots.
Wait, what did the blogger take out of context?
The blogger was trying to say that O'Reilly was blaming the girl for getting raped. That wasn't the point he was trying to make.
 
Shakey said:
Krisken said:
Shakey said:
So a blogger takes some comments that O'Reilly made out of context to try to make him look bad. O'Reilly gets mad and his producer does a surprise interview with her and takes her comments out of context to make her look bad. Blogger is now mad that O'Reilly is unfair. :facepalm:

I'm not a fan of O'Reilly, but they are both idiots.
Wait, what did the blogger take out of context?
The blogger was trying to say that O'Reilly was blaming the girl for getting raped. That wasn't the point he was trying to make.
What was the point he was trying to make? I can watch that segment again, and I swear, it's going to look like that to me.

O'REILLY: So anyway, these two girls come in from the suburbs and they get bombed, and their car is towed because they're moronic girls and, you know, they don't have a car. So they're standing there in the middle of the night with no car. And then they separate because they're drunk. They separate, which you never do. All right.

Now Moore, Jennifer Moore, 18, on her way to college. She was 5-foot-2, 105 pounds, wearing a miniskirt and a halter top with a bare midriff. Now, again, there you go. So every predator in the world is gonna pick that up at two in the morning. She's walking by herself on the West Side Highway, and she gets picked up by a thug. All right. Now she's out of her mind, drunk.

And the thug takes her over to New Jersey in the cab and kills her and rapes her and does all these terrible things to her. And the thug is so stupid, he uses her cell phone, and the cops trace it back to him and they -- and they arrest him and charge him with murder. He had a prostitute girlfriend with him, and she's charged as an accessory to murder. But Jennifer Moore is in the ground. She's dead.
There's the whole thing. What context was he going for?
 
Krisken said:
O'REILLY: So anyway, these two girls come in from the suburbs and they get bombed, and their car is towed because they're moronic girls and, you know, they don't have a car. So they're standing there in the middle of the night with no car. And then they separate because they're drunk. They separate, which you never do. All right.

Now Moore, Jennifer Moore, 18, on her way to college. She was 5-foot-2, 105 pounds, wearing a miniskirt and a halter top with a bare midriff. Now, again, there you go. So every predator in the world is gonna pick that up at two in the morning. She's walking by herself on the West Side Highway, and she gets picked up by a thug. All right. Now she's out of her mind, drunk.

And the thug takes her over to New Jersey in the cab and kills her and rapes her and does all these terrible things to her. And the thug is so stupid, he uses her cell phone, and the cops trace it back to him and they -- and they arrest him and charge him with murder. He had a prostitute girlfriend with him, and she's charged as an accessory to murder. But Jennifer Moore is in the ground. She's dead.
There's the whole thing. What context was he going for?
That's still not the whole thing. He was commenting on how when you are dunk you do things you normally wouldn't do. He talked about more than just her.

Is it her fault? No. Was she asking for it? No. Would you want your daughter to be walking alone and drunk at 2 in the morning? I'm guessing not. Not because she would be asking for trouble, but the chances of something happening to her are greater. Yes, O'Reilly came off high and mighty but he wasn't out to say that it was her fault.
 
Ugh, that went exactly where I didn't want it to, and it's partially my fault for taking the bait.

Back to the topic I actually have an interest in (since I can find dozens of examples of O'Reilly saying sexist things), should we take someone seriously when they ambush someone like this? The Geraldo Rivera style of journalism?
 
Krisken said:
Ugh, that went exactly where I didn't want it to, and it's partially my fault for taking the bait.

Back to the topic I actually have an interest in (since I can find dozens of examples of O'Reilly saying sexist things), should we take someone seriously when they ambush someone like this? The Geraldo Rivera style of journalism?
I really didn't mean it as bait.

No, they shouldn't be taken seriously.
 
I've read the whole transcript of what O'Reilly said, and it still sounds pretty damn bad, although better than just the one quote makes it sounds like. But what the blogger did to O'Reilly doesn't even compare to what O'Reilly did to the blogger. O'Reilly's quote was made on his own show, in an environment he controlled. The full tape and transcript of what he said are available to everyone.

On the other hand, O'Reilly had his producer stalk this blogger and confront her while she was on vacation. They then accused her of causing pain and suffering to the Alexa Foundation, a group that supports rape survivors - despite the fact that she hadn't critised the foundation in any way, shape, or form. This isn't taking her statements out of context - it's simply a lie. They then go and air a heavily edited version of their "interview" with her - and only Fox has the complete version of the tape, so no one else can see the what her statements were in context.

Tell me, how are these two things morally alike?
 
Dieb said:
Tell me, how are these two things morally alike?
They're not. O'Reilly overreacted and went too far. What bugs me about the blogger is that O'Reilly was just trying to mend fences by doing this and they decide to rehash a crap story from months ago.
 

GasBandit

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As I guessed last week, I'm going to be purple-epic-rare this week. No time for links, Dr. Jones!

See you all later. Carry on.
 
Shakey said:
Dieb said:
Tell me, how are these two things morally alike?
They're not. O'Reilly overreacted and went too far. What bugs me about the blogger is that O'Reilly was just trying to mend fences by doing this and they decide to rehash a crap story from months ago.
Ok, yea, I can see that.

As I guessed last week, I'm going to be purple-epic-rare this week. No time for links, Dr. Jones!

See you all later. Carry on.
But....but.......if I have no one to argue with on the internet, what will I do with my time?
 
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Iaculus

Dieb said:
As I guessed last week, I'm going to be purple-epic-rare this week. No time for links, Dr. Jones!

See you all later. Carry on.
But....but.......if I have no one to argue with on the internet, what will I do with my time?
Go...

:paranoid:

... outside?
 
Iaculus said:
Dieb said:
As I guessed last week, I'm going to be purple-epic-rare this week. No time for links, Dr. Jones!

See you all later. Carry on.
But....but.......if I have no one to argue with on the internet, what will I do with my time?
Go...

:paranoid:

... outside?
You shut your dirty whore mouth. :explode:
 
Espy said:
Iaculus said:
Dieb said:
As I guessed last week, I'm going to be purple-epic-rare this week. No time for links, Dr. Jones!

See you all later. Carry on.
But....but.......if I have no one to argue with on the internet, what will I do with my time?
Go...

:paranoid:

... outside?
You shut your dirty * mouth. :explode:
Let the derailment begin.

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Matt²

GM: Government Motors..

Wasn't one of Obama's campaign promises to REDUCE big government, not INCREASE it?
 
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