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GasBandit

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Mr_Chaz said:
I mah have missed this one, I have to admit to not reading every link we get (sorry), but I thought this was a good'un...

Why the US healthcare system is renowned world wide
Way to go, fellas. /golfclap.

That reminds me of the insurance industry in general. Many of their companies tell all their adjusters that the SOP is to initially reject/deny all insurance claims that come in regardless of merit. Find a reason to say no. Then if the client insists on escalation or threatens to sue, that's when the actual claims process begins. I've heard numerous stories about that in home and auto insurance. Though I have to say when a college student plowed into me, her insurance company must have known I had them over a barrel (which I did, she said multiple times in front of the cop "Ohmigod this is so totally my fault"). There was complete cooperation in all things... until a few weeks later we started haggling over a final payment for me to sign the release.
 

GasBandit

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So apparently, a protest is classified as "Low Level Terrorism."

Iran accused the United States of "intolerable" meddling in its internal affairs in regards to its recent "election." Meddling? Obama hasn't said squat! Sarkozy has been left to carry the ball on this one.

A guide to terminology in the Obama Age.

In a big blow to the healthcare bill, the Senate Finance Committee has postponed the markup of the bill until after the Fourth of July recess.

Meanwhile, Max Baucus says that he is going to strip $600 billion out of the healthcare bill in order to bring down the cost to a mere $1 trillion.

A visual representation of how badly the stimulus impact was midjudged-



Eureka! Global warming is caused by.... US Postal Service rate increases!

 

The Great Depression ended in 1933. The changes here (and, of course, WWII) helped us get into one of the longest periods of economic growth in recorded Human history.
 

GasBandit

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Edrondol said:
The Great Depression ended in 1933. The changes here (and, of course, WWII) helped us get into one of the longest periods of economic growth in recorded Human history.
More like, WW2 helped us get into one of the longest periods of economic growth in recorded Human history despite the changes. And unemployment was still 17% in 1939. And I know people are probably tired of me linking this.
 

GasBandit

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Politicians without a sense of humor.

On Iran, Krauthammer says that Obama is clueless. Just on Iran?

The Democrats are calling the Republicans hypocrites because they voted against the latest war funding bill that they had previously supported. Republicans supposedly voted against the bill because it contained money for the IMF.

Republicans are taking a page out of the Democrat playbook to fight healthcare reform.

Barack Obama: "In some countries a single-payer health care system 'works pretty well.'" Media: "What countries?" White House: "We're not really sure." Gotta love it.

Experts warn that a new wave of mortgage foreclosures may be coming soon and could rival the default rates for subprime mortgages.

Just as a reminder, do NOT refer to Barbara Boxer as "ma'am." I have a few suggestions, but it seems as though she would like everyone to go with "senator."

The White House recently issued a new federal report on climate change. Here's the analysis, and guess what? It misrepresents its own research.
 
Covar said:
GasBandit said:
Just as a reminder, do NOT refer to Barbara Boxer as "ma'am." I have a few suggestions, but it seems as though she would like everyone to go with "senator."
smurf her. Army Officers and civilians are "Sir" or "Ma'am." She should know this. If she was to be addressed by anything else by him it would be "Senator Boxer."
That's what she asked for. She wasn't even rude about it, other than interrupting him. This is a great example of blowing a situation out of proportion to try to make the 24 hour news cycle seem appropriate.
 
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Krisken said:
Covar said:
GasBandit said:
Just as a reminder, do NOT refer to Barbara Boxer as "ma'am." I have a few suggestions, but it seems as though she would like everyone to go with "senator."
smurf her. Army Officers and civilians are "Sir" or "Ma'am." She should know this. If she was to be addressed by anything else by him it would be "Senator Boxer."
That's what she asked for. She wasn't even rude about it, other than interrupting him. This is a great example of blowing a situation out of proportion to try to make the 24 hour news cycle seem appropriate.
So, aside from being rude by interrupting, she wasn't rude?

It shows quite a bit of narcissism and self-importance on her part. As Covar pointed out, the terms of respect for military personnel are "Sir" and "Ma'am." The Brigadier General was being perfectly respectful and considerate of who he was addressing, which is more than you can say about Senator Boxer. It's almost like she wants a flashing sign behind her 24/7 that says "I AM A SENATOR!!! I AM IMPORTANT!!!"

Senators serve at our pleasure, and a few of them could use a refresher on that.
 
Armadillo said:
Krisken said:
Covar said:
GasBandit said:
Just as a reminder, do NOT refer to Barbara Boxer as "ma'am." I have a few suggestions, but it seems as though she would like everyone to go with "senator."
smurf her. Army Officers and civilians are "Sir" or "Ma'am." She should know this. If she was to be addressed by anything else by him it would be "Senator Boxer."
That's what she asked for. She wasn't even rude about it, other than interrupting him. This is a great example of blowing a situation out of proportion to try to make the 24 hour news cycle seem appropriate.
So, aside from being rude by interrupting, she wasn't rude?

It shows quite a bit of narcissism and self-importance on her part. As Covar pointed out, the terms of respect for military personnel are "Sir" and "Ma'am." The Brigadier General was being perfectly respectful and considerate of who he was addressing, which is more than you can say about Senator Boxer. It's almost like she wants a flashing sign behind her 24/7 that says "I AM A SENATOR!!! I AM IMPORTANT!!!"

Senators serve at our pleasure, and a few of them could use a refresher on that.
I'm saying it would have been minor in the realm of rude, her phrasing was polite and understandable, and the general didn't seem put out by the request.

But you're right, what a bitch. Stupid self important senators and their wanting to be addressed as such! Next doctors will want to have an honorific and be addressed by it, or ranking military will want to be called by their rank! The nerve of those self important dicks!
 
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Krisken said:
Armadillo said:
Krisken said:
Covar said:
smurf her. Army Officers and civilians are "Sir" or "Ma'am." She should know this. If she was to be addressed by anything else by him it would be "Senator Boxer."
That's what she asked for. She wasn't even rude about it, other than interrupting him. This is a great example of blowing a situation out of proportion to try to make the 24 hour news cycle seem appropriate.
So, aside from being rude by interrupting, she wasn't rude?

It shows quite a bit of narcissism and self-importance on her part. As Covar pointed out, the terms of respect for military personnel are "Sir" and "Ma'am." The Brigadier General was being perfectly respectful and considerate of who he was addressing, which is more than you can say about Senator Boxer. It's almost like she wants a flashing sign behind her 24/7 that says "I AM A SENATOR!!! I AM IMPORTANT!!!"

Senators serve at our pleasure, and a few of them could use a refresher on that.
I'm saying it would have been minor in the realm of rude, her phrasing was polite and understandable, and the general didn't seem put out by the request.

But you're right, what a *. Stupid self important senators and their wanting to be addressed as such! Next doctors will want to have an honorific and be addressed by it, or ranking military will want to be called by their rank! The nerve of those self important *!
Way to miss the point. She interrupted a general to publicly wag her finger at him over such a minor thing. If it really put her out, couldn't she have waited until a break, or had an aide or someone like that tell the witness to please address the panel as "Senator?"

Again, the 100 senators and 435 House members serve at OUR pleasure. They are public servants, yet many of them seem to think they're above us common rabble, like being elected to a public office somehow entitles them. Toss 'em all out and start over, I say. Except Ron Paul. He can stay.

Another point: your analogy is flawed, because doctors had to attend eight years of college and go through a highly specialized course of study to get to where they are. Military brass also had to serve in harm's way and have to possess a highly specialized set of skills to get to their rank. They are worthy of respect. Politicians just have to con enough saps into voting for them with false promises and slick talk, all the while bilking their constituents and covering their asses. They're not even in the same realm nor deserving of some mythical exalted status.
 
Armadillo said:
Another point: your analogy is flawed, because doctors had to attend eight years of college and go through a highly specialized course of study to get to where they are. Military brass also had to serve in harm's way and have to possess a highly specialized set of skills to get to their rank. They are worthy of respect. Politicians just have to con enough saps into voting for them with false promises and slick talk, all the while bilking their constituents and covering their asses. They're not even in the same realm nor deserving of some mythical exalted status.
This obviously bothers you a whole lot more than it does me, so believe whatever floats your boat. I'm not missing any point, but thank you for making that assumption ;)
 
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Krisken said:
Armadillo said:
Another point: your analogy is flawed, because doctors had to attend eight years of college and go through a highly specialized course of study to get to where they are. Military brass also had to serve in harm's way and have to possess a highly specialized set of skills to get to their rank. They are worthy of respect. Politicians just have to con enough saps into voting for them with false promises and slick talk, all the while bilking their constituents and covering their asses. They're not even in the same realm nor deserving of some mythical exalted status.
This obviously bothers you a whole lot more than it does me, so believe whatever floats your boat. I'm not missing any point, but thank you for making that assumption ;)
It's just the arrogance and entitlement mentality that gets to me. Believe me, I'm not stewing on this 24/7 or anything, but I do tend to think that politicians from the two major parties are, with a few exceptions, pond scum, yet they think they're oh-so-important.
 

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With their money problems clamping them tighter every day, California has now had the decided to deport illegal immigrants in california jails. This will purportedly save $180 million.

Senator Diane Feinstein believes that there are not enough votes in the Senate as of right now to pass Obama's healthcare reform plan.

Democrats have struck a deal with the pharmaceutical industry.

George Will explains why we don't need radical healthcare reform.

Despite current tensions, Iran spent twice as much on U.S. imports during Obama's first months in office as it did during the same period in 2008.

President Obama is discovering that the promise of "transparency" is easier said than done.

FDA: Cheerios = drug.

Obama has the environmentalists' thongs in a wad over his failure to protect 60 million acres of federal woodlands.
 

GasBandit

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The governor of South Carolina has apparently declared an impromptu road trip, not even telling his wife where he's going (but apparently remembering to tell his chief of staff, who won't spill the beans). Anybody check the vegas strip joints?
 
This just in: Gov. Sanford has resurfaced.

However, some are doubting the "hiking" cover story, as Sunday was Naked Hiking Dayout on the Appalachian Trail.

So, was the governor really out hiking in the buff, or is this another case of a staff providing a cover story without first checking that it would be even worse than what may really have happened?
 

GasBandit

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He should have told somebody and made arrangements for sure. Like.. I dunno... tell that LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR of his to run things for a few days? Sheesh.


Only a couple links for today, still getting back into the swing of things with the motherboard ordeal:

Teacher's unions are making sure teachers get paid to do nothing. Just gotta love how unions are the sand in the gears of their respective industries.

Companies like Citigroup and Bank of America are experiencing a brain drain. The talented go where their talents will garner them the most rewards, after all, and the federal government says they can't do that there.
 
Espy said:
GasBandit said:
Teacher's unions are making sure teachers get paid to do nothing. Just gotta love how unions are the sand in the gears of their respective industries.
You know, This American Life did a story on this about a year or so ago, it was... amazing. Just amazing.
Way to catch up massmedia. The greatest part about it all is how it's not going to change a bit.
I'm a teacher. I *HATE* my union. I know a lot of teachers under 35 feel the same way. It's an outdated, horrible system. Maybe that means teacher's unions will diminish in the future?
 
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I'm also a teacher and all the unions do is remove competitiveness from my job. When we do sweeps for example we don't get rid of the teachers who are least qualified, or anything like that, it's all based off of seniority.
 
Yeah, I gotta agree... I'm generally pro union but even I think the Teacher's Union has to go. They've threatened to strike 3-4 times in as many years around here.
 

GasBandit

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Well, that makes a lot more sense.


I just read this little bit and had to share it -

Can you guess which organization this is?

36 have been accused of spousal abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
19 have been accused of writing bad checks
117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
3 have done time for assault
71, repeat 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shoplifting
21 currently are defendants in lawsuits, and
84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year

Take a guess...

Give up yet?

Answer: The 435 members of the US House of Representatives.
 
GasBandit said:
He should have told somebody and made arrangements for sure. Like.. I dunno... tell that LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR of his to run things for a few days? Sheesh.
Right. I mean, I don't care a whole lot about private family matters, but when those private matters spill over into, I don't know, a governor not telling anyone where he is going or for how long, leaving no one in charge....that's rediculous.

Teacher's unions are making sure teachers get paid to do nothing. Just gotta love how unions are the sand in the gears of their respective industries.
The way teacher's unions stick so much with seniority is a travesty, as others in the thread have commented.

Companies like Citigroup and Bank of America are experiencing a brain drain. The talented go where their talents will garner them the most rewards, after all, and the federal government says they can't do that there.
Hell, it's a good thing companies like Citigroup and BofA are undergoing a brain drain. They were attracting TOO MANY bright people. I mean, finance is an important occupation and all, but it seemed like half of new graduates with PhDs in physics and math were going into that occupation. Ok, ok, that's undoubtably an exaggeration, but the point is the rewards for I-banking were artificially high, and therefore those banks were attracting too much talent. It's natural for a brain drain to result afterwords.

GasBandit said:
It was based on this article.
First of all, that's from 1999. Secondly, it gives no sources (just says "according to our research") and quite frankly, some of those numbers don't pass the smell test. 71 members of Congress cannot get a credit card due to bad credit? Even in this economy, I get a pre-authorized credit card through the mail every couple of weeks, and I'm too young to have a very good credit score. But 71 members of Congress couldn't get a credit card at the height of internet bubble? That just doesn't make sense. I'd need a lot more than "because we say so" to believe that.
 
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