Temptation. Must resist.....GAAHHHH!!!!GasBandit said:No, that glass is half full.. of giardia.
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Temptation. Must resist.....GAAHHHH!!!!GasBandit said:No, that glass is half full.. of giardia.
Hey, no problem. I was wondering, though, if you could try dropping the sarcasm and learning how to read? That might make it easier to understand what I was actually saying. You know, just a thought. 'Cuz maybe, just maybe, I was saying that the left calling the right intolerant for expressing an opinion is just as bad.Espy said:Sorry guys, that was my fault. I forgot that only the right is intolerant when they express their offense at someone or something. Thanks for reminding me troll.
When your sources include Michelle Malkin, you're just another wingnut.GasBandit said:Change you can believe in. Obama is keeping most of Bush's pentagon appointees, war staff, and of course, secretary of defense Robert Gates. Wait, I thought Obama told people that McCain was the one who was going to be 4 more years of Bush war policy?
Is the information incorrect? No? Thank you for playing.DarkHelmet said:When your sources include Michelle Malkin, you're just another wingnut.GasBandit said:Change you can believe in. Obama is keeping most of Bush's pentagon appointees, war staff, and of course, secretary of defense Robert Gates. Wait, I thought Obama told people that McCain was the one who was going to be 4 more years of Bush war policy?
Too bad, but thanks for playing. Have some nice parting gifts.
I think I'm a better troll than you. It's way to easy to get you. thhp:A Troll said:Hey, no problem. I was wondering, though, if you could try dropping the sarcasm and learning how to read? That might make it easier to understand what I was actually saying. You know, just a thought. 'Cuz maybe, just maybe, I was saying that the left calling the right intolerant for expressing an opinion is just as bad.Espy said:Sorry guys, that was my fault. I forgot that only the right is intolerant when they express their offense at someone or something. Thanks for reminding me troll.
I... no, but... you...Espy said:I think I'm a better troll than you. It's way to easy to get you. thhp:A Troll said:Hey, no problem. I was wondering, though, if you could try dropping the sarcasm and learning how to read? That might make it easier to understand what I was actually saying. You know, just a thought. 'Cuz maybe, just maybe, I was saying that the left calling the right intolerant for expressing an opinion is just as bad.Espy said:Sorry guys, that was my fault. I forgot that only the right is intolerant when they express their offense at someone or something. Thanks for reminding me troll.
I know this was only intended to get a rise, but there's a bit of difference between intolerance of belief and intolerance of lifestyle, especially when that particular belief stands a good chance of having a significant negative impact on your life.Espy said:Sorry guys, that was my fault. I forgot that only the right is intolerant when they express their offense at someone or something. Thanks for reminding me troll.
I dunno, it's gotten so a judicial nominee practically has to perform a partial birth abortion right on the senate floor to get confirmation these last 15 or 20 years.Iaculus said:Perhaps a better example of left-wing intolerance could be found? I mean, the jerks certainly aren't all on the red side of Congress.
Considering the more conservative congress we've had in recent years, wouldn't the reverse be true? Isn't more like a nominee must swear a blood oath under threat of death that they will oppose abortion? I dunno, seems that way sometimes.GasBandit said:I dunno, it's gotten so a judicial nominee practically has to perform a partial birth abortion right on the senate floor to get confirmation these last 15 or 20 years.Iaculus said:Perhaps a better example of left-wing intolerance could be found? I mean, the jerks certainly aren't all on the red side of Congress.
Why not both?A Troll said:Considering the more conservative congress we've had in recent years, wouldn't the reverse be true? Isn't more like a nominee must swear a blood oath under threat of death that they will oppose abortion? I dunno, seems that way sometimes.GasBandit said:I dunno, it's gotten so a judicial nominee practically has to perform a partial birth abortion right on the senate floor to get confirmation these last 15 or 20 years.Iaculus said:Perhaps a better example of left-wing intolerance could be found? I mean, the jerks certainly aren't all on the red side of Congress.
No, the reverse is not true, because of the filibuster (and also because we haven't had a CONSERVATIVE senate, we have had a REPUBLICAN senate, and a number of those have been RINO). If a nominee even so much as hints that it might be conceivable to overturn Roe vs Wade, they're HOWLED out of the chambers.A Troll said:Considering the more conservative congress we've had in recent years, wouldn't the reverse be true? Isn't more like a nominee must swear a blood oath under threat of death that they will oppose abortion? I dunno, seems that way sometimes.GasBandit said:I dunno, it's gotten so a judicial nominee practically has to perform a partial birth abortion right on the senate floor to get confirmation these last 15 or 20 years.Iaculus said:Perhaps a better example of left-wing intolerance could be found? I mean, the jerks certainly aren't all on the red side of Congress.
I hate how the Supreme Court has become a single-issue body in the eyes of many Americans (right and left).
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Point taken.GasBandit said:No, the reverse is not true, because of the filibuster (and also because we haven't had a CONSERVATIVE senate, we have had a REPUBLICAN senate, and a number of those have been RINO). If a nominee even so much as hints that it might be conceivable to overturn Roe vs Wade, they're HOWLED out of the chambers.A Troll said:Considering the more conservative congress we've had in recent years, wouldn't the reverse be true? Isn't more like a nominee must swear a blood oath under threat of death that they will oppose abortion? I dunno, seems that way sometimes.GasBandit said:I dunno, it's gotten so a judicial nominee practically has to perform a partial birth abortion right on the senate floor to get confirmation these last 15 or 20 years.Iaculus said:Perhaps a better example of left-wing intolerance could be found? I mean, the jerks certainly aren't all on the red side of Congress.
I hate how the Supreme Court has become a single-issue body in the eyes of many Americans (right and left).
Remember the "Gang of 14?" Also, you might want to cast your memory back to Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas.
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They're not known for being mutually exclusive.Bubble181 said:Here I thought the turtles in Finding Nemo were stoners, but they're actually surfers?
Carefully.Bubble181 said:So how do you toke while standing on a surfboard in the middle of the sea? :-P
But then they won't be including the racist idiots and then they won't be all-inclusive and then... (brain breaks).Scarlet Varlet said:What's the difference between the GOP and the Ku Klux Klan? We're still working on it. Seriously, GOP'ers, you want to be an all-inclusive party you need to stop dorks like this.
Its kinda hard when youve been herded out of another arab country to take over some land which someUN said would be yours, and now has some Israeli settler there, that put some cramp in the Arab nation's plan to destabilize Israel, you see.Scarlet Varlet said:Hamas keeps up the Hate Israel talk, while rockets stream out of Gaza into Israel. Israelies have had their fill of it and strike back this morning, with F16 attacks, leaving 140+ dead. When are Hamas going to learn you can't act like Lord of the Flies and expect to get anywhere.
I have no problem with the greivances of those who were displaced. The problem I have is this negative approach these 'leaders' keep taking. Let's believe we can accomplish something through kidnappings and bombings, right?JCM said:Its kinda hard when youve been herded out of another arab country to take over some land which someUN said would be yours, and now has some Israeli settler there, that put some cramp in the Arab nation's plan to destabilize Israel, you see.Scarlet Varlet said:Hamas keeps up the Hate Israel talk, while rockets stream out of Gaza into Israel. Israelies have had their fill of it and strike back this morning, with F16 attacks, leaving 140+ dead. When are Hamas going to learn you can't act like Lord of the Flies and expect to get anywhere.
In other news, will the real hundred thousand Palestinians who were displaced when Israel was installed, please stand up? And the millions others, please stop bitching about Israel.
ElJuski said:Except native americans are still mostly living in squalor.
Yup, that approach worked pretty well for the IRA (for the most part).ElJuski said:Yeah, of course. I always felt that the Palestinians really needed to rack up the PR, instead of their usual bashing their heads against the wall. Get some film crews out there, show your side better than exploding buses and hi-jacking tractors and plowing through innocent people.
Oh, I'm well aware the problems the Israeli Government and people are guilty of, but the Palestinians do nothing when they antagonise Israelis - it just gives the Israeli hardliners more cause to oppress them and keep building illegal settlements in the West Bank.Bubble181 said:To be fair, try reading some non-US or UK or Dutch news sources about the situation (not this particular incident, but the middle east in general). Reality isn't all that one sided - there HAVE been great attempts by Hamasa nd others to stop things; every time to have some Israeli hardliner throw everything down the trash, just as well.
I'd say both sides are equally guilty, easily.
As far as aid and buying back goes...Israel receives far,far more from private sources inthe US (not even counting official supprot) than Palestine gets in aid. They're poor, they live in a blocked-off piece of land without education or a decent government system, without the means or the ability or beign allowed to go work in the city over the hill, walled off from pretty much the rest of the world, and so on and so forth. It's not exactly like the paleistinians have it so great.
While, politically, the Palestinian authority and Hamas really seem to try and makeeverythign as miserable as possible (up to and including starting civil war amongst one another because, you know, things were too quiet), the average Palestinian isn't to blame for hating Israel with a passion - the Israeli government isn't exactly being nice to the Palestinians. They pretty much live in squalor on every bit of land the Israeli government found not good enough to seize up.
Gah. On american fora I always end up defending the Palestines, while around here peopel consider me an Israel-sympathizer. Just goes to show the bias of the media and how little peopel will think beyond it. Anyway, Israel's just as guilty as the Palestines.
In short, its a pissing contest between two jerks fighting over land made barren by war.Scarlet Varlet said:Oh, I'm well aware the problems the Israeli Government and people are guilty of, but the Palestinians do nothing when they antagonise Israelis - it just gives the Israeli hardliners more cause to oppress them and keep building illegal settlements in the West Bank.Bubble181 said:To be fair, try reading some non-US or UK or Dutch news sources about the situation (not this particular incident, but the middle east in general). Reality isn't all that one sided - there HAVE been great attempts by Hamasa nd others to stop things; every time to have some Israeli hardliner throw everything down the trash, just as well.
I'd say both sides are equally guilty, easily.
As far as aid and buying back goes...Israel receives far,far more from private sources inthe US (not even counting official supprot) than Palestine gets in aid. They're poor, they live in a blocked-off piece of land without education or a decent government system, without the means or the ability or beign allowed to go work in the city over the hill, walled off from pretty much the rest of the world, and so on and so forth. It's not exactly like the paleistinians have it so great.
While, politically, the Palestinian authority and Hamas really seem to try and makeeverythign as miserable as possible (up to and including starting civil war amongst one another because, you know, things were too quiet), the average Palestinian isn't to blame for hating Israel with a passion - the Israeli government isn't exactly being nice to the Palestinians. They pretty much live in squalor on every bit of land the Israeli government found not good enough to seize up.
Gah. On american fora I always end up defending the Palestines, while around here peopel consider me an Israel-sympathizer. Just goes to show the bias of the media and how little peopel will think beyond it. Anyway, Israel's just as guilty as the Palestines.
At some point the palestinians my try being less militant to accomplish their goals. This lobbing rockets isn't doing it. Looks like Israel will next put soldiers in Gaza. Not desireable.