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Sorry guys, that was my fault. I forgot that only the right is intolerant when they express their offense at someone or something. Thanks for reminding me troll.
 

GasBandit

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Obama's got some swank hawaiian vacation digs. And it's a bargain at $3500 a night.

Franken's lead is up to 48. Reference the aboveposted picture of the "franken" ballot.

Following their speaker's resignation, the Iraqi parliament has approved the continued presence of non-US troops into 2009. Apparently, both the resignation, and the "approval" of the extension "could be heard outside."

Change you can believe in. Obama is keeping most of Bush's pentagon appointees, war staff, and of course, secretary of defense Robert Gates. Wait, I thought Obama told people that McCain was the one who was going to be 4 more years of Bush war policy?

The russkis aren't having much luck with their new nukular missles.

Despite media and leftist harping on the subject, Dick Cheney was far from the worst VP we've had.
 
Espy said:
Sorry guys, that was my fault. I forgot that only the right is intolerant when they express their offense at someone or something. Thanks for reminding me troll.
Hey, no problem. I was wondering, though, if you could try dropping the sarcasm and learning how to read? That might make it easier to understand what I was actually saying. You know, just a thought. 'Cuz maybe, just maybe, I was saying that the left calling the right intolerant for expressing an opinion is just as bad.
 
GasBandit said:
Change you can believe in. Obama is keeping most of Bush's pentagon appointees, war staff, and of course, secretary of defense Robert Gates. Wait, I thought Obama told people that McCain was the one who was going to be 4 more years of Bush war policy?
When your sources include Michelle Malkin, you're just another wingnut.

Too bad, but thanks for playing. Have some nice parting gifts.
 

GasBandit

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DarkHelmet said:
GasBandit said:
Change you can believe in. Obama is keeping most of Bush's pentagon appointees, war staff, and of course, secretary of defense Robert Gates. Wait, I thought Obama told people that McCain was the one who was going to be 4 more years of Bush war policy?
When your sources include Michelle Malkin, you're just another wingnut.

Too bad, but thanks for playing. Have some nice parting gifts.
Is the information incorrect? No? Thank you for playing.

 
A Troll said:
Espy said:
Sorry guys, that was my fault. I forgot that only the right is intolerant when they express their offense at someone or something. Thanks for reminding me troll.
Hey, no problem. I was wondering, though, if you could try dropping the sarcasm and learning how to read? That might make it easier to understand what I was actually saying. You know, just a thought. 'Cuz maybe, just maybe, I was saying that the left calling the right intolerant for expressing an opinion is just as bad.
I think I'm a better troll than you. It's way to easy to get you. :pthhp:
 
Espy said:
A Troll said:
Espy said:
Sorry guys, that was my fault. I forgot that only the right is intolerant when they express their offense at someone or something. Thanks for reminding me troll.
Hey, no problem. I was wondering, though, if you could try dropping the sarcasm and learning how to read? That might make it easier to understand what I was actually saying. You know, just a thought. 'Cuz maybe, just maybe, I was saying that the left calling the right intolerant for expressing an opinion is just as bad.
I think I'm a better troll than you. It's way to easy to get you. :pthhp:
I... no, but... you...

Ugh. Dammit.
 
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Iaculus

Espy said:
Sorry guys, that was my fault. I forgot that only the right is intolerant when they express their offense at someone or something. Thanks for reminding me troll.
I know this was only intended to get a rise, but there's a bit of difference between intolerance of belief and intolerance of lifestyle, especially when that particular belief stands a good chance of having a significant negative impact on your life.

Though it would obviously be better if neither was necessary, it's easier on average to reject a few paragraphs of religious scripture than it is to stop being gay.

Perhaps a better example of left-wing intolerance could be found? I mean, the jerks certainly aren't all on the red side of Congress.

EDIT: That's 'red' as in 'Republican'. See? I'm trying to fit in with you crazy 'mericans and your strange, backward ways.

please don't hurt me...
 

GasBandit

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Iaculus said:
Perhaps a better example of left-wing intolerance could be found? I mean, the jerks certainly aren't all on the red side of Congress.
I dunno, it's gotten so a judicial nominee practically has to perform a partial birth abortion right on the senate floor to get confirmation these last 15 or 20 years.

Which reminds me... Judge Bork was on Alan Colmes' radio show last night... was interesting listening.
 
GasBandit said:
Iaculus said:
Perhaps a better example of left-wing intolerance could be found? I mean, the jerks certainly aren't all on the red side of Congress.
I dunno, it's gotten so a judicial nominee practically has to perform a partial birth abortion right on the senate floor to get confirmation these last 15 or 20 years.
Considering the more conservative congress we've had in recent years, wouldn't the reverse be true? Isn't more like a nominee must swear a blood oath under threat of death that they will oppose abortion? I dunno, seems that way sometimes.

I hate how the Supreme Court has become a single-issue body in the eyes of many Americans (right and left).
 
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Iaculus

A Troll said:
GasBandit said:
Iaculus said:
Perhaps a better example of left-wing intolerance could be found? I mean, the jerks certainly aren't all on the red side of Congress.
I dunno, it's gotten so a judicial nominee practically has to perform a partial birth abortion right on the senate floor to get confirmation these last 15 or 20 years.
Considering the more conservative congress we've had in recent years, wouldn't the reverse be true? Isn't more like a nominee must swear a blood oath under threat of death that they will oppose abortion? I dunno, seems that way sometimes.
Why not both?

This is Congress, after all.
 
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Zonker

Meh, I think the right-wingers have cornered the market on being intolerant jerks. Left wingers are just nuts. They're the guys that talk about "them" all the time and make you roll your eyes a lot. But all the intolerant jerks seems to be on the other side.

I guess the closest the left got was with some of the more radical violent black power stuff in the sixties, and some of the early seventies feminism was way over the top. And the "pc" stuff, although I think the right wing made that into a bigger thing than it ever really was.

Well, ok, some of the greenpeace stuff kind of makes you scratch your head. And the PETA stuff is kind of obnoxious and stupid.

But being intolerant jerks is like a consistent theme of the right wing. That's their job. That's their role. If you want to be an intolerant jerk, you go to church and they teach you how to do it. For a left winger, they teach you how to be nuts. You go to a commune and you smoke a lot of dope and drop acid and they teach you how to be incoherent and paranoid. Being intolerant is an occasional side effect. But it's hard to tell when a drooling pschizophrenic is being intolerant. "They're after me! They're evil! They're taking over!" Yeah, ok, buddy. I know they are. Here, have another toke.
 

GasBandit

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A Troll said:
GasBandit said:
Iaculus said:
Perhaps a better example of left-wing intolerance could be found? I mean, the jerks certainly aren't all on the red side of Congress.
I dunno, it's gotten so a judicial nominee practically has to perform a partial birth abortion right on the senate floor to get confirmation these last 15 or 20 years.
Considering the more conservative congress we've had in recent years, wouldn't the reverse be true? Isn't more like a nominee must swear a blood oath under threat of death that they will oppose abortion? I dunno, seems that way sometimes.

I hate how the Supreme Court has become a single-issue body in the eyes of many Americans (right and left).
No, the reverse is not true, because of the filibuster (and also because we haven't had a CONSERVATIVE senate, we have had a REPUBLICAN senate, and a number of those have been RINO). If a nominee even so much as hints that it might be conceivable to overturn Roe vs Wade, they're HOWLED out of the chambers.



Remember the "Gang of 14?" Also, you might want to cast your memory back to Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas.
 

GasBandit

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GasBandit said:
A Troll said:
GasBandit said:
Iaculus said:
Perhaps a better example of left-wing intolerance could be found? I mean, the jerks certainly aren't all on the red side of Congress.
I dunno, it's gotten so a judicial nominee practically has to perform a partial birth abortion right on the senate floor to get confirmation these last 15 or 20 years.
Considering the more conservative congress we've had in recent years, wouldn't the reverse be true? Isn't more like a nominee must swear a blood oath under threat of death that they will oppose abortion? I dunno, seems that way sometimes.

I hate how the Supreme Court has become a single-issue body in the eyes of many Americans (right and left).
No, the reverse is not true, because of the filibuster (and also because we haven't had a CONSERVATIVE senate, we have had a REPUBLICAN senate, and a number of those have been RINO). If a nominee even so much as hints that it might be conceivable to overturn Roe vs Wade, they're HOWLED out of the chambers.



Remember the "Gang of 14?" Also, you might want to cast your memory back to Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas.
Point taken.
 
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Scarlet Varlet said:
What's the difference between the GOP and the Ku Klux Klan? We're still working on it. Seriously, GOP'ers, you want to be an all-inclusive party you need to stop dorks like this.
But then they won't be including the racist idiots and then they won't be all-inclusive and then... (brain breaks).
 
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Scarlet Varlet

Hamas keeps up the Hate Israel talk, while rockets stream out of Gaza into Israel. Israelies have had their fill of it and strike back this morning, with F16 attacks, leaving 140+ dead. When are Hamas going to learn you can't act like Lord of the Flies and expect to get anywhere.
 
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JCM

Scarlet Varlet said:
Hamas keeps up the Hate Israel talk, while rockets stream out of Gaza into Israel. Israelies have had their fill of it and strike back this morning, with F16 attacks, leaving 140+ dead. When are Hamas going to learn you can't act like Lord of the Flies and expect to get anywhere.
Its kinda hard when youve been herded out of another arab country to take over some land which someUN said would be yours, and now has some Israeli settler there, that put some cramp in the Arab nation's plan to destabilize Israel, you see.

In other news, will the real hundred thousand Palestinians who were displaced when Israel was installed, please stand up? And the millions others, please stop bitching about Israel.
 
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Scarlet Varlet

JCM said:
Scarlet Varlet said:
Hamas keeps up the Hate Israel talk, while rockets stream out of Gaza into Israel. Israelies have had their fill of it and strike back this morning, with F16 attacks, leaving 140+ dead. When are Hamas going to learn you can't act like Lord of the Flies and expect to get anywhere.
Its kinda hard when youve been herded out of another arab country to take over some land which someUN said would be yours, and now has some Israeli settler there, that put some cramp in the Arab nation's plan to destabilize Israel, you see.

In other news, will the real hundred thousand Palestinians who were displaced when Israel was installed, please stand up? And the millions others, please stop bitching about Israel.
I have no problem with the greivances of those who were displaced. The problem I have is this negative approach these 'leaders' keep taking. Let's believe we can accomplish something through kidnappings and bombings, right?

Consider for a moment the very large sums of money the Saudis and others give to the Palestinians each year in aid. Also, add the international/UN contributions. These people could be living quite well, if they took a more positive approach. OK, Israel came and took our land - so, do what they do, BUY it back!

I find interesting how native americans have turned things to their advantage with casinos. OK, whiteman took your land, so, let white man come to casino, lose his money then buy all the land you like. Smart!

Use your enemy's methods against him.
 
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Scarlet Varlet

ElJuski said:
Except native americans are still mostly living in squalor.

And several tribes are handing out more than I earn each year to tribe members who do bugger all, but have the ancestry.

The point here isn't how it works or not for native americans, but that there are means to resolve things to the advantage of palestinians, which they do not use. Hamas will moan how this attack is more example of how evil the state of Israel is, despite their doing everything they can to aggrevate tensions, including lobbing missiles indescriminantly into civilian areas. They want the attack so they can moan louder about what victims they are, perhaps encourage an arab nation to attack Israel (i.e. Iran)
 

ElJuski

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Yeah, of course. I always felt that the Palestinians really needed to rack up the PR, instead of their usual bashing their heads against the wall. Get some film crews out there, show your side better than exploding buses and hi-jacking tractors and plowing through innocent people.
 
ElJuski said:
Yeah, of course. I always felt that the Palestinians really needed to rack up the PR, instead of their usual bashing their heads against the wall. Get some film crews out there, show your side better than exploding buses and hi-jacking tractors and plowing through innocent people.
Yup, that approach worked pretty well for the IRA (for the most part).
 
To be fair, try reading some non-US or UK or Dutch news sources about the situation (not this particular incident, but the middle east in general). Reality isn't all that one sided - there HAVE been great attempts by Hamasa nd others to stop things; every time to have some Israeli hardliner throw everything down the trash, just as well.
I'd say both sides are equally guilty, easily.
As far as aid and buying back goes...Israel receives far,far more from private sources inthe US (not even counting official supprot) than Palestine gets in aid. They're poor, they live in a blocked-off piece of land without education or a decent government system, without the means or the ability or beign allowed to go work in the city over the hill, walled off from pretty much the rest of the world, and so on and so forth. It's not exactly like the paleistinians have it so great.
While, politically, the Palestinian authority and Hamas really seem to try and makeeverythign as miserable as possible (up to and including starting civil war amongst one another because, you know, things were too quiet), the average Palestinian isn't to blame for hating Israel with a passion - the Israeli government isn't exactly being nice to the Palestinians. They pretty much live in squalor on every bit of land the Israeli government found not good enough to seize up.

Gah. On american fora I always end up defending the Palestines, while around here peopel consider me an Israel-sympathizer. Just goes to show the bias of the media and how little peopel will think beyond it. Anyway, Israel's just as guilty as the Palestines.
 
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Bubble181 said:
To be fair, try reading some non-US or UK or Dutch news sources about the situation (not this particular incident, but the middle east in general). Reality isn't all that one sided - there HAVE been great attempts by Hamasa nd others to stop things; every time to have some Israeli hardliner throw everything down the trash, just as well.
I'd say both sides are equally guilty, easily.
As far as aid and buying back goes...Israel receives far,far more from private sources inthe US (not even counting official supprot) than Palestine gets in aid. They're poor, they live in a blocked-off piece of land without education or a decent government system, without the means or the ability or beign allowed to go work in the city over the hill, walled off from pretty much the rest of the world, and so on and so forth. It's not exactly like the paleistinians have it so great.
While, politically, the Palestinian authority and Hamas really seem to try and makeeverythign as miserable as possible (up to and including starting civil war amongst one another because, you know, things were too quiet), the average Palestinian isn't to blame for hating Israel with a passion - the Israeli government isn't exactly being nice to the Palestinians. They pretty much live in squalor on every bit of land the Israeli government found not good enough to seize up.

Gah. On american fora I always end up defending the Palestines, while around here peopel consider me an Israel-sympathizer. Just goes to show the bias of the media and how little peopel will think beyond it. Anyway, Israel's just as guilty as the Palestines.
Oh, I'm well aware the problems the Israeli Government and people are guilty of, but the Palestinians do nothing when they antagonise Israelis - it just gives the Israeli hardliners more cause to oppress them and keep building illegal settlements in the West Bank.

At some point the palestinians my try being less militant to accomplish their goals. This lobbing rockets isn't doing it. Looks like Israel will next put soldiers in Gaza. Not desireable.
 
Scarlet Varlet said:
Bubble181 said:
To be fair, try reading some non-US or UK or Dutch news sources about the situation (not this particular incident, but the middle east in general). Reality isn't all that one sided - there HAVE been great attempts by Hamasa nd others to stop things; every time to have some Israeli hardliner throw everything down the trash, just as well.
I'd say both sides are equally guilty, easily.
As far as aid and buying back goes...Israel receives far,far more from private sources inthe US (not even counting official supprot) than Palestine gets in aid. They're poor, they live in a blocked-off piece of land without education or a decent government system, without the means or the ability or beign allowed to go work in the city over the hill, walled off from pretty much the rest of the world, and so on and so forth. It's not exactly like the paleistinians have it so great.
While, politically, the Palestinian authority and Hamas really seem to try and makeeverythign as miserable as possible (up to and including starting civil war amongst one another because, you know, things were too quiet), the average Palestinian isn't to blame for hating Israel with a passion - the Israeli government isn't exactly being nice to the Palestinians. They pretty much live in squalor on every bit of land the Israeli government found not good enough to seize up.

Gah. On american fora I always end up defending the Palestines, while around here peopel consider me an Israel-sympathizer. Just goes to show the bias of the media and how little peopel will think beyond it. Anyway, Israel's just as guilty as the Palestines.
Oh, I'm well aware the problems the Israeli Government and people are guilty of, but the Palestinians do nothing when they antagonise Israelis - it just gives the Israeli hardliners more cause to oppress them and keep building illegal settlements in the West Bank.

At some point the palestinians my try being less militant to accomplish their goals. This lobbing rockets isn't doing it. Looks like Israel will next put soldiers in Gaza. Not desireable.
In short, its a pissing contest between two jerks fighting over land made barren by war.
 
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Zonker

If the palestinians are such wonderful peace loving people, why have they NEVER tried civil disobedience? When I ask on other fora why the palestinians haven't tried non-violent protest, the answer is always "because the israelis are animals and it won't have an effect on them." Oh really? Have you tried it?

Israelites are not animals. Jews are well educated by tradition. Palestinians KNOW this. A huge chunk of them are socialists and communists. Give them ANY EXCUSE and they will rise up against the conservative war mongers and stop the violence against Palestine. Blowing up innocent women and children? Not going to get it done. Palestine has had the tools to stop the violence for the last forty years. And they know it. If they really wanted peace they could have had it DECADES ago. They're not interested in peace. They're interested in killing jews. The minute that changes there will be peace in the middle east. Instantly.
 
Err....Do you really mean to suggest that, in between 1967 and today, the Palestinians have never attempted civil disobedience? That arguement's so fucked up I won't even bother researching the answer.
Short story: there are enough hawks on both sides to make sure one or the other will throw a bomb/kill a president/what have you to destroy the process.
 
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