[PC Game] Minecraft HF server info and game discussion

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New minecart station open! Take Ed's line from central ragnar to find it by my tower.

And then Gas, try to fix it. It's weird that one of the cart dispensers has STOPPED working with NO changes to it. Plenty of carts, but just doesn't work. It's the station in the "deeps" of my tower. The ones to/from Ed's work fine (for now at least) though, and the one in the deeps was the FIRST one to work 100%, so that it doesn't dispense a cart at all now is very very weird.

Anybody know why a dispenser would STOP working?
 
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Updated the gmap, in case you missed it. Been a while since last time, heh. I blame a hard drive failure messing with my shit.

Also, how important do you guys think the fixed-scale cartographer maps are? I'm considering just keeping the gmap fresh, considering its higher resolution and (relatively) good performance. New cartographer renders could instead be done when requested, like if someone wants to view something from a specific angle.
 
I'm considering just keeping the gmap fresh, considering its higher resolution and (relatively) good performance. New cartographer renders could instead be done when requested, like if someone wants to view something from a specific angle.
I'm happy either way.
 

figmentPez

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The past cartographs make a nice history of the server, but they don't need to be very often to serve that purpose.
 

GasBandit

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Problem is, nobody's updating the cartograph software, so it's getting further and further out of date. It STILL doesn't render diamond blocks, and now neither it nor the gmap knows what to do with dyed cloth, it seems.
 

GasBandit

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New minecart station open! Take Ed's line from central ragnar to find it by my tower.

And then Gas, try to fix it. It's weird that one of the cart dispensers has STOPPED working with NO changes to it. Plenty of carts, but just doesn't work. It's the station in the "deeps" of my tower. The ones to/from Ed's work fine (for now at least) though, and the one in the deeps was the FIRST one to work 100%, so that it doesn't dispense a cart at all now is very very weird.

Anybody know why a dispenser would STOP working?
When I went by, ALL your dispensers had stopped working. None of them would launch carts. I monkeyed around with them until they functioned again. I suspect the server needs a restart, as sometimes things get a little retarded with the addon, especially when it's not updated for the current version of hmod, which it isn't. I'll reboot the server...
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Yep - rebooted the server and the one down in the deeps started functioning properly again without me monkeying with it. So that was the problem I guess. Wish I'd tried that before I spent time re-noodling your up top ones. heh.
 
Ya, I appreciate you going through the effort, though I'm going to "un-noodle" them for the cleaner look.

I think it has to do with the number of carts entered into the box BEFORE they are used. Something like the number isn't updated, so I think front-loading them with lots is the strategy, combined with semi-frequent reboots (nightly maybe?).

I dunno, but thanks for looking at it!

Edit: also look at what happens to the signs with "Minecarts:" on them. Very interesting, and very weird effects on "broken" dispensers.
 

GasBandit

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This is only the second time I've had to reboot because of minecraft mania... so nightly might be a bit much because there are other administrative addons that sometimes get boogered during restarts, to say nothing of the ever-present small percentage chance of map corruption. I think for now, an as-needed basis will be enough.
 
Fair enough. I also thought it'd be worth asking what version of Mania we're running? From the official thread here, the newest is 0.74alpha, and on the wiki page for it, it said that there was a double-chest dispensing bug fixed on dec 26 in the 2nd patch of the day. Basically just wondering if we're up-to-date is all.

Other than that, I'm going to make sure my chests are nearly-full so that I have lots of leeway for usage if it is "initial number on reboot" that's counted.
 

GasBandit

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We're upper-to-dater than the double dispenser bug version, but not on the latest since the latest is a bukkit mod, not hmod.
 
I think someone posted it waaay back in the Awesome videos thread.
Here's another one someone put together (thanks, Reddit!) with waaaay too much free time.
(Should I feel bad that I recognized the incidental music?)



--Patrick
 
I have questions about two different "changes" I want to do in the world right now, but they're not mine, and so wanted to ask.

One is the "2nd death star" partial ring. I'm not sure who started it, but it's definitely since before Christmas since there's been any work on it. I'd call it a slight eyesore, as well as a cartograph blight to an extent. I'd rather have whomever started it to finish it, or to de-construct it (or I will if said person isn't really doing minecraft anymore). But I wanted a good week (at least) of notice on here before I did anything, since it's not my territory, but I'm relatively near it.

The second is Ed's arena, or whatever, and the track on the way to/from, and specifically the old-style boosters between my tower station and central Ragnar. Ed, do you have any objections to me taking out the old boosters and replacing them with gold blocks to do the job? I've already placed a block or two just to be "100% sure" that people will get where they're going, but I didn't want to take out the boosters without say-so.

Thanks all.
 

GasBandit

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Adammon's the death star maker. As for the boosters on ed's track, I've meant to replace them with gold blocks but just never got around to it. Some places do have the gold blocks already, but not all.
 

Dave

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At this point I haven't logged on in some time. Part of the reason is because I've been busy (with other games mostly) and part of it is because I just can't compare to you guys. I'm trying to make the HELLDOME but haven't got the patience to do it. I look at some of the things Gas (for example) has done and I think, "Holy fuck! There's no WAY I could do that!" All of my buildings are square and plain. I like the act of building but I'm just inferior.
 
I have questions about two different "changes" I want to do in the world right now, but they're not mine, and so wanted to ask.

One is the "2nd death star" partial ring. I'm not sure who started it, but it's definitely since before Christmas since there's been any work on it. I'd call it a slight eyesore, as well as a cartograph blight to an extent. I'd rather have whomever started it to finish it, or to de-construct it (or I will if said person isn't really doing minecraft anymore). But I wanted a good week (at least) of notice on here before I did anything, since it's not my territory, but I'm relatively near it.

The second is Ed's arena, or whatever, and the track on the way to/from, and specifically the old-style boosters between my tower station and central Ragnar. Ed, do you have any objections to me taking out the old boosters and replacing them with gold blocks to do the job? I've already placed a block or two just to be "100% sure" that people will get where they're going, but I didn't want to take out the boosters without say-so.

Thanks all.
I couldn't get into Minecraft for awhile now because of the version changes. I would like to finish the dome but if you want to go ahead and take it down, fly at er :)
 
I'd be interested in finishing up the dome if Adammon can't, but it would be a while before I would be ready to work on it.
 
I am wondering if my neighbors; gusto, silvy, and the guy who built the giant pallacde walls between me and gasbandit are ever going to continue work on their plots? raidrinn and me were talking about playing around with abondened plots. we would never do anything with out approval, and it would not be destruction or removal of any of anyones stuff, just building and modyifying the already in place creations :D I am curious around my place because I have obviously outgrown my orginal plot :D
 
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I am wondering if my neighbors; gusto, silvy, and the guy who built the giant pallacde walls between me and gasbandit are ever going to continue work on their plots? raidrinn and me were talking about playing around with abondened plots. we would never do anything with out approval, and it would not be destruction or removal of any of anyones stuff, just building and modyifying the already in place creations :D I am curious around my place because I have obviously outgrown my orginal plot :D
Well, as I'm Silvy, I'll go ahead and give my permission, since Minecraft is a very occasional thing for me. So long as my lava moat stays intact, we're all good. :D

Also, the Monkey Island fan tweet is hilarious and awesome. I need to play that again.
 

GasBandit

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I'd say there's too much open, unused space to really worry about reclaiming "abandoned" plots. Also, be aware that some places might not have a large above-ground presence but might have an extensive underground presence, such as many of the works of Drifter, Mav, and yes, myself. I've got an undersea habitation and and underground city I haven't drawn too much attention to.

Heck, Noax and I discussed perhaps starting a new "town hub" somewhere farther than has ever been gone thus far, with all new-algorithm generated content, so it would have lapis lazuli and all the other fancy things that our old alpha area wouldn't. Could very easily connect the two with a high speed rail line.

All that said, I'm starting to kinda run out of ideas of (feasible) things to build. I hope they fix the lag with monsters soon, so that we can turn them back on.
 
I'd say there's too much open, unused space to really worry about reclaiming "abandoned" plots. Also, be aware that some places might not have a large above-ground presence but might have an extensive underground presence, such as many of the works of Drifter, Mav, and yes, myself. I've got an undersea habitation and and underground city I haven't drawn too much attention to.

Heck, Noax and I discussed perhaps starting a new "town hub" somewhere farther than has ever been gone thus far, with all new-algorithm generated content, so it would have lapis lazuli and all the other fancy things that our old alpha area wouldn't. Could very easily connect the two with a high speed rail line.

All that said, I'm starting to kinda run out of ideas of (feasible) things to build. I hope they fix the lag with monsters soon, so that we can turn them back on.
I am now going to spend my day trying to find these places and explore them! TO GASBANDIA!
 

GasBandit

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Well, you don't have to look hard for the underwater hab, it's right next to you and silvy, with the "KEEP OUT" signs on the entrance.

The underground city is not technically in gasbandia.
 
Due to a labour disruption, work on the Adammon Mega-dome had been halted temporarily. Union negotiations have completed and Local 69 is hard at work. Another 6 levels have been added, bringing us to within 52 levels of completion. Project Management provided by Adammon services.
 
Is there some issue, or has the server changed in the last 5 or so days? I'm getting problems logging in, with connection timeouts, etc.
 

GasBandit

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minecraft.net has been having severe issues. I too have been experiencing them. Basically, you have to log in (twice) to minecraft.net to play on the server... so when the main minecraft site goes down... nobody with a bona-fide server can play. Seems to be better though as of 10p eastern today though.
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Our server map is now officially too big for cartograph. I attempted to make one today and it eats up about 2 gigs of ram and then throws a runtime error.
 
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