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#1

bigcountry23

bigcountry23

PA looks to be doing a week devoted to this game. I'm wondering if anyone is familiar with the game and what their thoughts are. I played a very stripped down version (building and destroying only, no "crafting" and no zombies) and thought it was somewhat forgettable, but now that I am looking into it deeper, it looks interesting.


#2

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Minecraft is like Legos, if you always imagined you were in a fantasy world. If your like me and LOVE Legos, it is crack. Pure, untainted CRACK. it should, quite literally, be called Crackcraft.


#3

Piotyr

Piotyr

Minecraft is like Legos, if you always imagined you were in a fantasy world. If your like me and LOVE Legos, it is crack. Pure, untainted CRACK. it should, quite literally, be called Crackcraft.
Or even MineCrack.


#4

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

When I heard some one mention Minecraft the other day, I thought it was a derogatory jab at Starcraft II.


#5

R

Raemon777

Someone demonstrates how to set up a fireplace in your house:



#6

bigcountry23

bigcountry23

I started watching X's videos (he recorded from the time he started playing), very cool stuff.



#7



Jiarn

Can't sleep.... must keep watching videos.....


#8

Shawn

Shawn

I'm enjoying this guy X's videos. His venture into the game is actually quite interesting. I especially enjoyed episode 15 thusfar. It would have been nice to see the X-system as it was built, but seeing the nearly finished product was also a treat in itself.

I am considering getting the game, but I'm unsure what to think concerning the finished product. Right now it looks great, but I guess this single player mode isn't exactly what the point of the game will be.


#9



Jiarn

Bought it, playing it and I've decided I'm a dwarf. I refuse to walk around the world for anything but some wood to make sticks for more picks.... the mountain I'm digging into will bear fruit or I'll hollow it to it's core!


#10

figmentPez

figmentPez

Can't sleep.... must keep watching videos.....
Yes, X's Adventures in Minecraft is great.


#11



Jiarn

I've struck Iron!

I have created...... IRON BOOTS!


#12

PatrThom

PatrThom

I so want to play this game. But I so don't want to lose what little free time I have left.
But soon. Soooooon.

--Patrick


#13

bigcountry23

bigcountry23

I have succumbed to the desire and bought it last night. I'm in the process of building my first castle. I planned to be in bed by 11. I was up until a bit after 1 and up at 6. It is as fun as it looks.


#14

bigcountry23

bigcountry23

When I started, I found a small hill with a giant rock spire sticking out of the top. I used this as my base and began to build and dig. I have started to plant a wooded area in front of it and I have most of the walls constructed (I have been removing the natural grass and stone and replacing it with a cobblestone wall). In digging out my castle I was able to find a larger caveren with large amounts of gravel/coal and even a pocket of iron. Unfortuantly, rather than continuing to dig, I used the iron picks/shovels to work on the castle and now I'm back to using stone picks (but I am mining again, in the search for iron).

Oh, if anyone else is having issues with sound press F3 and S to turn sound on.


#15

figmentPez

figmentPez

I'm still watching X's Adventures, and it strikes me that Minecraft is kind of like Survial Kids crossed with Motherload and put into a 3D world. Awesome... (no, no! I've already got more than a half dozen games I've bought but not played yet! I can't buy more!)

Anyway, as X was talking about bedrock being indestructable, I was thinking (spoilers for Motherload)
good thing it is, Satan is down there if you dig much deeper!


#16

Jay

Jay

Is there like a point to the game beyond building and hiding from zombies?


#17

figmentPez

figmentPez

Is there like a point to the game beyond building and hiding from zombies?
Does killing the zombies count as something more? What about building more stuff?

No, as far as I can tell it's all about exploring, finding and building from what you find. Some of the stuff you can build gets pretty complex, since "redstone" in the game can be used to make circuits and switches and stuff, but there's no goal or anything.


#18

R

Raemon777

This is one game that could really use a peristent world. The coolest part about building stuff is showing it off. Having each player get their own world, but eventually be able to build a portal to other player's worlds would be really cool.

Basically it seems like a (possibly better) version of Love.


#19

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Started my adventure today. I was dropped off right next to a huge plateau range. I traversed my way to the top and made my temporary shelter. After creating my basic tools, I proceeded to a side of the plateau that I noticed was mostly stone and began my mining operations. Lots of coal so far, but not much else. We'll see what else I find as I dig further into the dark abyss.


#20

bigcountry23

bigcountry23

Had a rough night last night. I did not realize that your stuff has a rot timer on it. Lost all my iron tools, about 25 unprocessed blocks of iron, a bunch of leather and other stuff when I got jumped in a cave and ended up respawning at night (knew right where I died, but took me about 10 minutes and three deaths to get back there). I've found a couple caves, and I have been working to network them all together and then tie them into my main carven under my castle, but it is slow going and the iron is sparse.


#21



Jiarn

Was creating my dwarven castle front when I was seized by a creeper and 2 zombies (I have the game on hard difficulty). I was killed almost instantly and what's worse is that since it was my first death, I had never traveled from the spawn point to my home.


I lost my home. I had created a full suit of Iron armor, an Iron sword, and about 13hours of digging and clearing up my labyrinth. Did I quit?

Nope I began rebuilding a huge castle style home into the side of a large mountain near the spawn point. Oh am I the only one with a SNOW world? I haven't seen any videos yet that have it and it threw me for a loop when I first spawned.


#22

bigcountry23

bigcountry23

I know there is a chartographer program that will read your file and show you what has been generated so far (may be helpfull in finding your wayward castle).

I have seen a couple videos with Snow and the mincraft wiki indicates that you can use it to make snowballs and blocks of ice (which can be used to store snowballs).

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So apparently Notch (the guy who is developing the game) announced yesterday on his twitter that the game has sold 200,000 copies (at $13 a copy, thats 2.6 million dollars). Since the credits for the game it about 4 people long, this should be a good payday for them. :)

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An austrailain video game review show talking about Minecraft. Good Game - Video


#23



Jiarn

I tried using the program but it was of little use. I am content with my new home though, if I ever find the old one, it'll be nice.


#24

bigcountry23

bigcountry23

Perhaps one day in the future, someone will stumble upon mysterious dwarven ruins and wonder... :)


#25

Far

Far

Bought this the other day after watching and getting hooked on X's videos. I started out one game but wasn't really happy with the way things were turning out so started a new one today. The area that I began in had a series of tunnels and I had built my initial refuge there only to later discover an area akin to the hallelujah mountains in Avatar just a bit further to the west. Eventually made it to the top and I now have a nice fort built up there with a fairly large enclosed stairwell leading up to it. I've recently started building sky bridges to connect to the other floating mountains and to continue my expansion. Later I plan on hollowing out most of the floating mountains.


This game owns my life...


#26

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Interesting, I bet that blocky look strikes several nostalgic cords for many players and it is a interesting concept. But does monster only come out at night?? sounds it can be a little boring. And does resources re-spawn again after a time?


#27

figmentPez

figmentPez

Interesting, I bet that blocky look strikes several nostalgic cords for many players and it is a interesting concept. But does monster only come out at night?? sounds it can be a little boring. And does resources re-spawn again after a time?
What I've learned from watching X's videos:

- Enemies spawn wherever there is dark. That means the overworld during the night, but in caves anytime (if there aren't torches). Zombies and skeletons catch fire in sunlight, but spiders and creepers that spawned at night continue to roam during the day.

- Trees and other plants can be grown, and water and magma are semi-infinite. The rest is finite, I think. The world is huge, though. Many resources are semi-reusable if not destroyed in some way, so it'd take a long time playing to deplete all the resources within easy travel, and even longer to deplete everything within just a little more travel.


#28

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Interesting, I bet that blocky look strikes several nostalgic cords for many players and it is a interesting concept. But does monster only come out at night?? sounds it can be a little boring. And does resources re-spawn again after a time?
What I've learned from watching X's videos:

- Enemies spawn wherever there is dark. That means the overworld during the night, but in caves anytime (if there aren't torches). Zombies and skeletons catch fire in sunlight, but spiders and creepers that spawned at night continue to roam during the day.

- Trees and other plants can be grown, and water and magma are semi-infinite. The rest is finite, I think. The world is huge, though. Many resources are semi-reusable if not destroyed in some way, so it'd take a long time playing to deplete all the resources within easy travel, and even longer to deplete everything within just a little more travel.[/QUOTE]

I actually though on a idea on how to justify these resources could be re-grown... Elemental Monsters, much like the rest, they spawn at night, the day light don't actually kil them, but rather they turn in "terrain" blocks of stone/dirt/iron/etc. They wouldn't be that common thought, and killing they at night might give some bonus resource or special resource.


#29



Jiarn

I think the thing that truly makes this game phenomenal is the LACK of complication. It's simple, but that's exactly what it needs to be. I find myself having to DRAG myself away from it to get my daily WoW things done, the entire time wishing I was delving deeper into my castle labyrinth, hoping to hit gold and red stone and perhaps one day, the fabled diamond.....

Perfect uniform stairwell right now, going about 400 tiles diagonal.... and counting....


#30

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Have been saving all the cobblestone I've been removing from my mine, polishing them up, and using them to make my castle above the clouds. Cobblestone I don't polish I've used to create roads between my castle-in-progress, my mine, and my current temporary dwelling. And I've made sure to line my road with torches as well as set up stones with torches all over the top of my plateau range to keep monster spawns to a minimum. I'll try to take screenshots when I get my own little Machu Picchu more completed.


#31

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Bought this the other day after watching and getting hooked on X's videos. I started out one game but wasn't really happy with the way things were turning out so started a new one today. The area that I began in had a series of tunnels and I had built my initial refuge there only to later discover an area akin to the hallelujah mountains in Avatar just a bit further to the west. Eventually made it to the top and I now have a nice fort built up there with a fairly large enclosed stairwell leading up to it. I've recently started building sky bridges to connect to the other floating mountains and to continue my expansion. Later I plan on hollowing out most of the floating mountains.


This game owns my life...
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! Show some screenshots

Have been saving all the cobblestone I've been removing from my mine, polishing them up, and using them to make my castle above the clouds. Cobblestone I don't polish I've used to create roads between my castle-in-progress, my mine, and my current temporary dwelling. And I've made sure to line my road with torches as well as set up stones with torches all over the top of my plateau range to keep monster spawns to a minimum. I'll try to take screenshots when I get my own little Machu Picchu more completed.
I am waiting

I think the thing that truly makes this game phenomenal is the LACK of complication. It's simple, but that's exactly what it needs to be. I find myself having to DRAG myself away from it to get my daily WoW things done, the entire time wishing I was delving deeper into my castle labyrinth, hoping to hit gold and red stone and perhaps one day, the fabled diamond.....

Perfect uniform stairwell right now, going about 400 tiles diagonal.... and counting....
again, screenshots?


#32

Far

Far

Here's what I have so far from a few different angles minus the large set of stairs, forgot to grab pictures of that.









Not exactly the prettiest but I've yet to be besieged so I'm happy with it.

Meant to add that building the bridge has taken alot of time cause I keep falling off. Also, when I was speluking in a cave near my sky fortress I found an old ruin. Inside was a chest and I threw down a couple of torches and grabbed it. Inside I found a saddle, some iron, wheat which I made bread with and some other things. Then the zombies showed up.


#33



Jiarn

Things have been happening too fast for screenshots but I will upload soon enough:

So anyway, as I was digging my massive staircase into the unknown, I come across the sound of water. Not wanting to break my uniform perfect staircase I think of how to proceed. My curiosity gets the better of me and I begin a mining shaft. Sure enough I strike an underground river that unbeknowgst to me at the time, unfolded into a 30 room sized cavern. Through trial and tribulation, much Iron and Gold was found. I continued exploring the caves, randomly encountering a Skeleton or Zombie looking to upset my exploring. Then.... I struck lava.

I became excited as I realized that this could mean I'm closing in on more rare ore types, so I begin digging around the lava rivers and yet again, I strike amazement. A huge cavern underneath the one I had recently unearthed opened itself up to me. Lava flow rivers, huge caverns, tons of Iron and Gold...... and around the bed..... RED ORE!

Excitedly I began collecting, hearing the sound of skeletons and zombies I quickly equipped my weapons and began clearing out the area and placing torches.... what I wasn't ready for was.....



I think I'm going to need a bow and arrow set now....


#34

figmentPez

figmentPez

Are those slimes?


#35



Jiarn

I went back down after crafting the bow and arrows, shot them.... and they split into 3s. Killing the smaller versions I gained green slime bubbles. Not sure what to do with them yet.

Once I had cleared them though, I turned down the hallway and was greeted by a slime 6x that size.... practically eating up the cavern hallway.... I took a screenshot but it didn't save unfortunately.


#36



Jiarn

So a few screenshots of the new Dwarven Hold:

This is about 200ft from my spawning point, so as to avoid losing my home as I did the first time:


It's unassuming right now as it's just the beginning of what I plan on for the outer look. Think "Ironforge" ish.

Building down a bit I decided to move and create a side entrance that I could use to for easy access to the side of the mountain:


Wanted to give it that "dungeon opening" kind of look.

This was an unexpected surprise. When I hit the first cavern that I described earlier, I was digging around for iron and such when I ended up hearing pigs and sheep. I continued in the direction that I heard them and found daylight again. Realizing I could make this yet another opening to my fort I quickly constructed a smaller hub.



Just to give you some idea of how deep into the mountain I was at the time that I found the cavern and then this path to the hub:



#37

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Working on a mountain top tower. All my playtime so far has been dedicated to being able to get up and down the mountain with relative ease. With that accomplished, it's time to do the actual tower building.


#38

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Holy hell, how you don't get lost in this game?


#39

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

You do. Then you start learning where things are in your immediate surroundings.


#40



Overflight

Are those slimes?
Worse, Pez. Much worse.


#41

gargoyle_eva

gargoyle_eva

1 weekend of play later and I have a nice cozy little fort. I cant bring myself to leave my first home so I am just expanding it. Also built a tree farm and a waterfall going over the top of my fort. With a secret cavern hidden in it too. Currently working on an infinite cobblestone supply inside my house so I don't need to strip mine mountains for materials. Once it is finished I shall have infinite cobblestone, wood and water all within 20 steps of my house. Sustainable living at it's best. I shall take a little vid when I get off work tomorow giving you guys a tour of the place (including my maze of a mine and my core sampling probe. Also I need a name for my awesome dwelling (much like X's X fort, X cave and X system) any ideas?


#42



Jiarn

This is going to be a big post..... Maybe I'll just break it up into parts:

So we begin with the entry of the main entrance. As it was the initial little cave I used to protect myself it comes equipped with two furnaces, a workbench and a double chest.


Moving ahead and to the left, I heard water so I decided to see how far to the outside of the cave I was. Just a small hallway and I reached it. Decided to make it a window.


Directly opposite of the windowed hallway, and the right side of the main entrance is where the "Dungeon Opening" side entrance was created.


Straight out from the main entrance, past the two side hallways, was where the grand stairwell into the depths began.

(Yes there were many times I ran into different type of rock/gravel/ore/dirt and replaced them with solid stone for my OCD tendencies.)

End Post 1.


#43

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Tower only got to be 3 stories before it hit the top of the world. It has no roof. I made a bridge to another mountain top which just needs guards and it's all done.

Also, I'm working on a mineshaft. I found diamond. Time to actually make a steel pick.

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And upon further exploration, this cave has everything.


#44



Jiarn

About half-way down this staircase, I got tired of having to run up and down the massive hallway to create Solid Stone, so I created another hub for supplies/creations.


Much further down, I began hearing the sounds of water. Curious I began digging down, though my OCD with stairs still allowed for easy up and down access without the requirement of jumping.


After having found the exit I mentioned earlier that became "Hub 2" I eventually kept striking large deposits of Iron and such so I began this very winding staircase into the bowels of the castle.


I was greated by a river and some lava, which you can see after removing the water, had left obsidian....


End Post 2.


#45



Overflight

Holy hell, how you don't get lost in this game?
I have devised an "ingenious" system to prevent this from happening: when you spawn, gather as much dirt or sand in the surroundings as possible (64 should be more than enough). When you find a point you want to return to, build a huge tower by the "jump, place block underneath you, repeat" method. When it is done, leap off it. When you inevitably die and spawn, you should be able to see it in the distance. If you are carrying any items with you, it is recommended that you build a box next to the tower to store your stuff.

Yes, this is a retarded as hell method, but I'm open for alternatives. I have also devised leaving blocks of something behind you as "bread crumbs", but the hilly terrain makes this difficult. Unless you use smaller towers instead of single blocks...this requires testing! *goes off*


#46

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Okay, a few coming your way.

The front of the first shack I created when I started:


The front of my mine, complete with lava flow below:


My castle from the entrance of my shack:


Front view of my castle, complete with clouds rolling in:


Castle entrance from afar:


Entrance up close:


Inside my castle on the bottom floor:


From the middle floor:


From the top floor:


A view of my shack from one of my castle's towers:


#47

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Holy hell, how you don't get lost in this game?
I have devised an "ingenious" system to prevent this from happening: when you spawn, gather as much dirt or sand in the surroundings as possible (64 should be more than enough). When you find a point you want to return to, build a huge tower by the "jump, place block underneath you, repeat" method. When it is done, leap off it. When you inevitably die and spawn, you should be able to see it in the distance. If you are carrying any items with you, it is recommended that you build a box next to the tower to store your stuff.

Yes, this is a retarded as hell method, but I'm open for alternatives. I have also devised leaving blocks of something behind you as "bread crumbs", but the hilly terrain makes this difficult. Unless you use smaller towers instead of single blocks...this requires testing! *goes off*
Switch to Cobblestone blocks. The only place that Cobblestone occurs naturally is within 4 blocks of a Monster Spawner, so if you can see Cobblestone, you know you are nearby a location you have previously been. You can also make signs.


#48



Jiarn

Amazing work on that Mountain Top Castle Cheesy, I'm sure the breath air is fantastic.... it'd kill me, but I'm sure you're enjoying it!

Back to the soot and ash for me!


#49

Far

Far

A bit more prgress from me though it's nothing compared to cheesy. Well done sir!

Finnally made it to the other towering mountains top.


Once I got up there I decided to mine down to ground level and make an alternate escape route in case any thing happens to the other one. I've pointed out the windows of those stairs in this screen.


View exiting the sky bridge to embark on to the top of the new area. In the distance is something I've dubbed Dino Mountain.


Entrance of the new steps so far.



Looking back out the stairs windows to where I took the screenshot that showed them a bit above in the post.



More stairs.


And they come out on ground level to this door.


Started doing some deep mining after I took these into the cave I found the chest and saddle in. A bit further down I found some redstone, a single diamond cube and a decent amount of coal and iron. However, the cavern opens up a bit below and I can see a pool of lava. Soon I hope to venture there.





#50

Adam

Adammon

Just popping in to say this game is hella addictive. We need a Halforums server!


#51

GasBandit

GasBandit



edit - now with annotations.


#52

GasBandit

GasBandit

Also, I found a slightly higher res textures file I sort of like using now... The only drawback though is animated sprites don't work (fire, lava, water don't animate).

If you want to use it, just save the below file, and insert it into your minecraft.jar in your %appdata%/.minecraft/bin/ folder using winrar or something similar to overwrite the one already in it. Naturally, you'll want to back up your original jar first.



#53



Disconnected

so it's like legos? I like legos.
i can see why its addictive.


#54

GasBandit

GasBandit

so it's like legos? I like legos.
i can see why its addictive.
Kind of. It's like you came upon a life-sized lego world, where all the blocks are a cubic meter in size, and you have to dig them up yourself to have blocks to build with, and at night out come zombies and skeletons and shaggy green suicide bombers to kill you. I build most of my stuff out of stone, which is easy enough to come by... but things like minecarts and tracks? That takes iron, which is fairly rare, and you have to smelt the ore into bricks first, which takes coal (which is abundant but still you gotta go looking for it), all the while you are wearing out and replacing tools via in-game crafting.

It's basically what I envisioned the Lego MMO to be when I heard about it years ago... only there's no subscription fee.

And it's still in alpha, so all the features aren't in yet and the multiplayer is REALLY buggy.


#55

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

This game has a lot of potential down the road. I'm having a hell of a lot of fun with it right now... but multiplayer is where the real idiotic fun happens (even though it's buggy as hell).

Never build anything with wood on a multiplayer server lol.


#56

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Switch to Cobblestone blocks. The only place that Cobblestone occurs naturally is within 4 blocks of a Monster Spawner, so if you can see Cobblestone, you know you are nearby a location you have previously been. You can also make signs.
Put lava on top of the cobblestones and it'll be extremely visible in the dark.

You might want to make a pool of water around the tower if you plan on using lava.


#57



Jiarn

I have completely been humbled by Gasbandit's video. Simply amazing.


#58

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

I have completely been humbled by Gasbandit's video. Simply amazing.
x2

my only "complain" is that those narrow bridges make me nervous.


#59

figmentPez

figmentPez

I was browsing the GOG.com forums and I noticed they have a thread on Minecraft. A couple of the recent posts were interesting:

Please tell me this guy used some sort of eternal editor to construct this:



And apparently this exists as well: Dwarf Fortress to Minecraft Conversion Utitilty


#60

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

That is like a real life caricature of sad and lonely nerdom.

Or, quoting Harry Potter: He did great things in Minecraft. Depressingly nerdy, yes. But great.


#61

GasBandit

GasBandit

I have completely been humbled by Gasbandit's video. Simply amazing.
The tower (and the elevated paths from the starting house) actually started just because I wanted to do something with all the hundreds and hundreds of cubic meters of stone I was digging up while hunting for iron before I learned the knack of finding iron quickly without excavating huge amounts of stone. But once I learned that, I actually feel LESS efficient now, because I no longer feel like I'm doing 2 things at once... I'm either quarrying OR mining iron, no longer both at once.

x2

my only "complain" is that those narrow bridges make me nervous.
Most of the narrow ones get cart tracks put on them to be made into tramways. the skinny ones around the mountain at the end were only temporary - usually when I build an elevated walking path to somewhere I make it 2 meters wide.

And I didn't even go down into any of my mines in those videos, some are absolutely huge and sprawling... but really, you see one tunnel you've seen em all, no reason to videolog them.

I was browsing the GOG.com forums and I noticed they have a thread on Minecraft. A couple of the recent posts were interesting:

Please tell me this guy used some sort of eternal editor to construct this:
He's playing in classic/creative mode. No monsters, limited size world, no day/night cycle, no mining, no inventory (just infinite building materials of varying colors). When you don't have to go digging up your blocks, you can spend WAY more time building.



(from the minecraft museum)


#62

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Man, if only you could lay siege to that castle with catapults and trebuchets... that would be a thing of beauty...


#63

GasBandit

GasBandit

Not only did he build a damned castle which involves at least 9 towers higher than I have ever built, but he also built the VILLAGE at the BASE of the tower. Oi. My head hurts.


#64

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

It is very impressive.

I've been trying to build a pyramid but it's taking forever to cut down all the mountains around my castle to make flat ground for it.


#65



Overflight

All for something that you can explore at the extremely fluid framerate of 6 fps :rolleyes:


#66

bigcountry23

bigcountry23

I've had a chance to play around with a multi-player server and I'm not hugely impressed at this point (unable to kill animals, unable to build near the spawn point, instant health regen, etc.). I'm eager to see what updates they bring to the table for that element of the game.


#67

GasBandit

GasBandit

I've had a chance to play around with a multi-player server and I'm not hugely impressed at this point (unable to kill animals, unable to build near the spawn point, instant health regen, etc.). I'm eager to see what updates they bring to the table for that element of the game.
Like we said, the multiplayer is very primitive and buggy at the moment. I mostly play single player at this point. I, too, however, salivate at what this game will be once the multiplayer matches the single player mode for functionality.


Anyway, today I finally figured out how the hoes work, and I've been struck with inspiration for the next addition to my tower: A HYDROPONIC FARM IN THE SKY. That way, I won't have to go down onto the ground with the filthy commoners to get food to heal me - I can bake bread from the wheat I will perpetually grow from my giant sky-farm.


#68

GasBandit

GasBandit

Ok, now it's just getting ridiculous. Somebody has built a WORKING COMPUTER inside minecraft- behold, the functioning 16-bit redstone ALU -



#69

PatrThom

PatrThom

Hah! I was wondering how long it would be until someone used redstone to build some sort of logic system or primitive computer. After all, if someone can simulate an entire AppleII 6502 chip in JavaScript, why not use Minecraft to do something similar?

On a different note, after grabbing the free-to-play copy over crash weekend, I started treating it seriously (up until then I thought the infinite construction mode was all there was). Over the following 16 days or so (during which time I had only 2 days off work), I absorbed all 45 of X's 'Adventures' videos (Yes, that's about 40hrs of video. I learned a lot. Had my mind blown a few times). Then, last night, I discovered the fan-made trailer (below).



It finally pushed me over the edge. I was talking to a friend on Skype about it at the time and sent him the link to the trailer. He watched the trailer and started purchasing the game before he was even finished watching. Less than 10 minutes later, I finally went through with my purchase. Got a copy for Kati also since she seemed to be interested, and will probably get a copy for my father since this might finally be the game that unseats MoO2 as the game he plays forever. He owns about 50 acres of wilderness in Michigan's Upper Peninsula that he's been meaning to develop. What happens when I introduce him to a game that has over a TRILLION (1,008,332,289,088) acres? Even Daggerfall pales in comparison (see graphic)



Now if you'll excuse me, I got a stronghold to dig. See you in a few weeks!

--Patrick


#70

drifter

drifter

Gaaaah, I hate you all. Why would you show me this?


#71

Far

Far

I have begun construction of my sky fortress. More progress to come.



#72

GasBandit

GasBandit

Gaaaah, I hate you all. Why would you show me this?
To get your ass the hell away from our arcade high scores!

---------- Post added at 12:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:29 PM ----------

I just ran into another showstopper last night - The tower you see being constructed at the end of my video? Yeah, it got to be all of about 3 more meters tall before I hit the point where the game won't let you build any higher.

So bear that in mind, folks... all the world may not be hollow, but I have touched the sky. If you plan to build something real tall, start it well below the clouds... because once you get above the clouds you only get another 30 or 40 meters before you can't build any more.


#73

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

You should build a Star Destroyer in the sky...


#74



Disconnected

today I finally figured out how the hoes work
I can't stop laughing.
yes i know, hoes/ho's

All kinds of impressive work, but it has me worried a new generation of single persons emerging from hobbit holes in 30 years.


#75

figmentPez

figmentPez

I want good Minecraft cosplay, dammit!


Minecraft cosplay @ PAX 2010


#76

GasBandit

GasBandit

Yeah, he should have come as Herobrine.



#77

bigcountry23

bigcountry23

Wow, that takes ghost in the machine to another level.


#78

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

Man, I don't read ghost stories before bedtime for a reason. I thought I was safe in this thread, but apparently not.

The night working on finishing my master's thesis (due tomorrow) will be fun.


#79

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Gaaaah, I hate you all. Why would you show me this?
To get your ass the hell away from our arcade high scores!

---------- Post added at 12:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:29 PM ----------

I just ran into another showstopper last night - The tower you see being constructed at the end of my video? Yeah, it got to be all of about 3 more meters tall before I hit the point where the game won't let you build any higher.

So bear that in mind, folks... all the world may not be hollow, but I have touched the sky. If you plan to build something real tall, start it well below the clouds... because once you get above the clouds you only get another 30 or 40 meters before you can't build any more.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I started my tower way high in a mountain. Only got 3-4 floors before it wouldn't let me build higher.

That said, clouds drifting through where I mine is always nice.


#80

GasBandit

GasBandit

Part two:



#81

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Man, I don't read ghost stories before bedtime for a reason. I thought I was safe in this thread, but apparently not.

The night working on finishing my master's thesis (due tomorrow) will be fun.
It is never safe, he is always watching you

always.


#82

bigcountry23

bigcountry23

My new island home is going well. I have made a bridge to the mainland, started a plantation on the island (connecting to another nearby island), and my trees are growing tall and strong. I have added cactus' as a defensive line (has already killed a couple skeletons) and learned that underwater is the worst place to die. Found much iron and many diamonds. My new plan is to kill some creepers and make some TNT to expand my cave.


#83

GasBandit

GasBandit

So far, I've been rather disappointed by the mining applications of TNT. For the trouble you have to go through to get the ingredients, a 3 block blast radius in stone is rather underwhelming.

I may have to look into the defensive cacti... A lava moat is great and all, but it also burns up the feathers, arrows, gundpowder and string.


#84

bigcountry23

bigcountry23

You know what would be nice, and a logical?
Allow the use of obsidian instead of flint to make more damaging arrows.
Wonder if that has been made on the suggestion board.

---------- Post added at 12:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:57 AM ----------

So far, I've been rather disappointed by the mining applications of TNT. For the trouble you have to go through to get the ingredients, a 3 block blast radius in stone is rather underwhelming.

I may have to look into the defensive cacti... A lava moat is great and all, but it also burns up the feathers, arrows, gundpowder and string.
The biggest issue I have found is that they can be completely destroyed by creepers and occasionally by chopping them down to move them. They also appear to be rather rare and I'm not sure they can be "grown" in any way.

---------- Post added at 12:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:01 PM ----------

Also, Cactus can only be placed on sand and cannot be planted next to eachother (so you cannot have a solid wall of cactus, only a staggered one).


#85

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

This is going to sound n00bish, but... how trustworthy PayPal is, I usually paranoid over paying stuff on-line, specially with my creditcard. =p

This is the only reason why I haven't bought the game yet.


#86

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

So far, I've been rather disappointed by the mining applications of TNT. For the trouble you have to go through to get the ingredients, a 3 block blast radius in stone is rather underwhelming.

I may have to look into the defensive cacti... A lava moat is great and all, but it also burns up the feathers, arrows, gundpowder and string.
I'm told TNT gets exponentially more powerful the more of it you place next to each other. This is why people are able to make Obsidian cannons with it to launch people miles over a map.

Also, Cactus's destroy items. If you want to work around this, put water around the cactus and have it flow AROUND the cactus, not into it. Enemies have big enough hit boxes that they will still get hit (and have trouble getting out) but most of their items will flow around unscathed. I know some MP servers use this method to farm for things like Gunpowder, arrows, and thread.


#87

GasBandit

GasBandit

I haven't messed much with cacti. I take it, it retains its prickly damaging nature even after you cut it down and move it where you want it?

Also - I pay for my guild's ventrilo server through recurring paypal payments, and the only problem I've ever had with them is that when you cancel something that you pay for recurrently in paypal, it doesn't stop the payments automatically, you have to remember to go and cancel the recurring payments in paypal separately. Which shouldn't be an issue here. I've never had any other trouble with paypal.


#88

bigcountry23

bigcountry23

I'm with Tin. I've never had an issue buying something with PayPal.


#89

Far

Far

Same, I first started using it in 2002, only e-checks though, but I've never had a problem with it. I've never had a credit card tied to it though other than a pre-paid one for a while. Looks like I'm going to have to soon, seems like e-checks are being completely phased out, no one really accepts them anymore, well steam doesn't anyway and that seems to be where I do the bulk of my online buying. They take about 7-9 days to clear since I'm in Canada so it's understandable as you would receive the purchases immediately and they wouldn't get payment until it did clear.


#90

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Added some columns on the second level and put in a stone floor:


Added a basement level where I've started a mine shaft going straight down. I'm so high, clouds roll through my basement:


Hey everybody, look at my long shaft! It goes real deep! :eyebrows: :


#91

Far

Far

Slow progress!



#92

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

That is sarting to look nice, I bet it will look awesome when finished.

Also, I don't see much of the problem with Herobryne. I hope he is added in the game =D


#93

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

My various projects in Minecraft are starting to come together.

Screen shots shortly.


#94

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Put in a Lava Fountain in my basement:


Also added a little waterfall to the front of my castle:


#95

GasBandit

GasBandit

Of this, we live in fear:



#96

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Made a lava fountain.

Started a forest fire.

Did not think that one through.


#97

bigcountry23

bigcountry23

Had the double whammy of hitting a lava pocket and then getting killed by a zombie I somehow missed (effectivly preventing me from plugging the lava, which then ate all my dropped items, including my diamond pick). not happy.


#98

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

^How can you Terraform something that is already with "terra" form?

Also, no pics of the trees burning?


#99

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet



Lower right hand corner: Part of my lava fountain


#100

figmentPez

figmentPez

This week's Bytejacker is on Minecraft. It includes an interview with Notch, but doesn't contain any real news, I don't think.


#101

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I just started playing.


FUCK FUCK FUCK why can't I find any coal?


#102

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

I just started playing.


FUCK FUCK FUCK why can't I find any coal?
have you tried to look over there

*points*


#103

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I just started playing.


FUCK FUCK FUCK why can't I find any coal?
have you tried to look over there

*points*[/QUOTE]

Actually, that worked well. Upon finding a mountain whose entire core appears to be made of coal, I dropped to my knees and sang praises to the randomly generated pantheon of blocky deities I worship.


#104

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

You should light it on fire. The burning mountain would be like a second sun!


#105

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

I just started playing.


FUCK FUCK FUCK why can't I find any coal?
have you tried to look over there

*points*[/QUOTE]

Actually, that worked well. Upon finding a mountain whose entire core appears to be made of coal, I dropped to my knees and sang praises to the randomly generated pantheon of blocky deities I worship.[/QUOTE]

The Great Owlephant in the clounds says: You are welcome.


#106

figmentPez

figmentPez

So, this Minecraft Halloween Update. Are these permanent changes, or just holiday stuff?


#107

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Good question... I like the sound of some of these changes. Maybe he's implementing them as a different game mode or using them to test the waters on new approaches?

Hopefully he starts working out the multiplayer bugs... I can't wait to do survival mode with a few buddies... the silliness will be epic.


#108

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I don't see the "torches go out" thing going over well with the community, considering Lanterns are probably going to use precious iron to make.


#109

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

I would love to have the option to have torches that go out or stay on infinitely... it depends on what I'm doing. If I'm playing a fun survival game with a buddy... it would be funny as hell to have torches go out (they can apparently be relighted with the flint and steel)... but if I'm just doing a sandbox mode by myself I probably would rather they stay on.

Having to relight them is also a lot better than having the torch become spent.


#110

GasBandit

GasBandit

I've started a multiplayer server internally, for the little woman and I to collaborate.

It's already an interesting experience. Even though it's buggy as all hell it's still lots of fun... and already has been the source of one argument.

I just wish mine carts worked on multiplayer. Those things are my bread and butter in this game. But you can't even get in a mine cart currently in multiplayer, and if you try to break one down, it causes a memory leak in the server.

Buckets don't work either, but you can work around that.


#111

strawman

strawman

I don't see the "torches go out" thing going over well with the community, considering Lanterns are probably going to use precious iron to make.
The game is too easy right now. A lot of casual players will complain, but balancing a game is hard, and bumps along the way are to be expected. Besides, it's in alpha and costs all of $13.50.

It's a good price for americans right now with each euro only costing $1.37. The rate is going up, though, so the game is likely only to get more expensive leading up to christmas, and, of course, he's going to jack up the price when he goes into beta.


#112

GasBandit

GasBandit

Yeah, torches going out is not popular in my house right now, but with the two of us mining, I've already got over 500 iron I've got nothing better to do with (because there's no point to building mine carts/track yet).


#113

strawman

strawman

Ok, I finally got it (probably shouldn't have). Turns out the paypal conversion is closer to $1.40, so it cost just under $14. Oh well, see you all in building block land...


#114

figmentPez

figmentPez


Experience Points

I'm not sure how much longer I'll hold out.


#115

GasBandit

GasBandit

It's been officially confirmed that any torches already placed before the update will be changed to lanterns automatically, and only torches placed AFTER the update will burn out. So those of us who have placed hundreds upon hundreds of torches will not find our entire worlds plunged into darkness suddenly after the update.


#116

figmentPez

figmentPez



#117

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

I'm having fun playing this game, but I just got done watching all of X's videos, and I am afraid that the game will become stale for me very soon. I want to love it forever, though.

I actually tried to limit myself at the beginning-- like making myself not go too deep, etc.

But within the first few hours of playing, I struck a cave system that took me about 6 hours to explore fully, with no digging on my end, and it was FULL of resources. I will never want for coal or flint again.

I found what I call a "pirate alcove" that I started playing around in, and I didn't think I was going too deep (and I was going diagonally), but before too long I hit bedrock. But before reaching that, about halfway up my "staircase" I heard zombies, so started searching, and found a really awesome cave system, which eventually gave me about 11 diamond.

So I'm already pretty well into things. Sigh.


#118

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

Man, I really dislike this torch thing, specially because I can't find any iron. I had trouble finding coal, even if now I've got plenty, but I'm basically having fun building a road from my spawning point to my mine, and that involves lots of torches and almost no mining.


#119

drifter

drifter

Helpful hint: when sneaking (hold down Shift), you can go past any edges you're on and you generally won't fall off*. This information would have saved me a ton of time and trouble had I known of it sooner.

*If you go into inventory while sneaking, you instantly stand up. When you go back out from inventory, if you were on the outermost edge, you will fall.
Also, if you are dumb enough to dig under the edge you are sneaking on (e.g. me), you will fall to your probable death.


#120

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

I keep hearing about people who think the game is too hard, or at least creepers. Are you guys having any problems? I'm playing on normal mode, and while I've run into my fair share of monsters, none of them have come close to kill me. I've been exploded at by 3 creepers the entire game and I've lived through each one, somehow. The first time I dove down a waterfall to escape-- he still exploded as I jumped, taking me to one heart, and I landed in the water below. Shit was awesome.

But yeah, I'm not having any huge problems. I haven't even had any spiders or creepers jump down from the top of my house or anything.


#121

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

The "game" itself it ridiculously easy at the moment... are there really people complaining about it being hard?

As for the torches... meh, I'll just build lanterns.


#122

strawman

strawman

As an admission of guilt, I've started using a world mapper to find resources. I don't have time to mine forever. It's still very time consuming, but better.

What is really needed is an in-game metal detector that works like the compass. Maybe use some diamond and redstone, but it always points to the nearest deposit of iron, redstone, or diamond...


#123

PatrThom

PatrThom

A little planning will go a long way. I'll post some pics later of my travels.

--Patrick


#124

GasBandit

GasBandit

I never had problems with creepers killing me (though they have damaged my structures), it's the times I dig into a cave that has 3 skeletons in it all shooting at me at once. THAT kills me.

I've only found 4 diamonds so far, and I've explored a lot of caves.

As for getting bored of it, don't forget that mining is only half the game. The other half is BUILDING. You mine to get the resources to build your world to be what you want it to be. Think of it as a gigantic Lego set that you have to dig up your own bricks in.

For instance, I found coastline, so I built a lighthouse there, a completely furnished 12 story tower with a lava-powered super-lamp taking up the entire 12th story.


#125

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

I have been killed plenty of times. It doesn't help that I set up my first base (wich I recently called "The paramecium station") in a place that spawns regularly four or five creepers, a few spiders and some zombies. My character was miserable for a long time, dying again and again, until I started building on the beach. Now I have a nice system of beachhouses and a long tunnel that connects the beach with The Paramecium. There's still lots of monsters outside it, but I don't need to go there anymore!
I still do, though, because my goal is to finally "civilize" the zone around my base, flattening the terraing, building roads, lights, parks, farms and monuments.


#126

figmentPez

figmentPez

Just abandon the Paramecium and rename it Ravenholm.


#127

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Just abandon the Paramecium and rename it Ravenholm.
Nice... very nice... :)

I always build elevated walkways with torches everywhere I go... it seems to work well. I also build fences out of cactus which can be pretty amusing at times too.


#128

bigcountry23

bigcountry23

Started a new map last night (after I had an issue with zombies and lava that resulted in all my diamond being lost in the previous map I was playing). ten steps from my spawn point, I found iron in a small, shallow cave. I literely found Iron before coal. I found a deeper cave and I'm in the process of digging it out at the moment (more iron, some coal). I haven't found any large sources of water yet (which is supprising, as typically I spawn on a beach). I also found some ice covered ponds and snow covered hills, but it is not activly snowing in my map.


#129

strawman

strawman

Someone asked me privately what I did to map the world, but there are many other tools (mods, different texture maps, etc) for the game that I thought I'd simply link to the page I was looking at: Programs and Editors - Minepedia - The Minecraft Wiki! I use Minecraft Xray ( Minecraft X-Ray 2.7 [release] [+src] [+video] - Minecraft Forum - Official Minecraft Forums ) to look around the world. It is relatively simple and straightforward, and has a way to highlight individual resources. By the time I downloaded it I had already been to the bottom of the world, so I used it to get a general idea of where I should aim my lateral shafts to get resources. I'm rationalizing it by telling myself that I'm merely an advanced caveman, with the 20th century underground research tools modern mining operations use today. I already spent way too much time making huge underground caverns just to find a few resources, and that's time I'm just not interested in continuing to spend, so this makes it a bit more fun without removing all the grinding. I still think that an in-game metal detector should be available. Maybe 4 diamond, 4 redstone, and one glass so it's not something you get right out the gate, but once you've put in a bit of work to make it, it would be a tremendous help.


#130

figmentPez

figmentPez

I gave in and bought it today. Only played for an hour, but I've got some nice caves near me. I've found iron and a fair amount of coal so far (I'm placing torches like they're going out of style.) but I haven't found anything beyond that yet, not that I dug very deep in just over an hour.

Is there anything to do with wool yet?
EDIT: Nevermind, I checked the wiki. It's a cloth block, not wool, and I can make paintings with it.
EDIT 2: Thanks Allen


#131

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Make a painting.


#132

PatrThom

PatrThom

In multiplayer it can be dyed and arranged into interesting pixel art, I believe.

--Patrick


#133

drifter

drifter

Someone asked me privately what I did to map the world...
Oh man, that is sweet. I'd rep you for this if I could.


#134

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

I got my friend into this, and his goal is to claim his whole continent. I figured he just meant building shit, but no, he intends to keep it safe. I asked him to elaborate so he pulled up his map and showed me his area. First of all, he has a GIGANTIC castle that can be seen for miles around, and he has torches EVERYWHERE. At night he just goes and expands some each day, placing a torch wherever there's darkness. It's not a grid system or anything, but seriously, he climbed onto a hill to give me a better view, and in the huge area we could see, there was only one zombie. (To contrast, I would estimate you would normally see about 6-7 enemies in that area in darkness on Normal.)

If you could go to space in this game, you would be able to see his place like a lite-brite.

I feel intimidated by this game because I want to build so many cool things, but don't feel like I'm good at it, so I feel like I'm wasting potential. I went out on adventure to find a new cool place, and I found an area with 4 really neat things close enough by:

1) Bigass waterfall
2) Huge mountain crag that juts out in three areas-- one of them has the waterfall mentioned (I've started building a house here)
3) This upward pillar of earth; I've already begun digging through it and I've pretty much made it hollow and created a tiny "out-and-about" base.
4) Magma pouring out of a moutain on the surface. I know it's got a source block like right on top or something and doesn't actually originate from anywhere really awesome, but it still looks neat and I want to explore that area.

I've gotten bolder in hunting creepers, because I want enought TNT to blow up the world.


#135

GasBandit

GasBandit

Some pictures of the new world I started earlier in the week - odd thing is it's a snow world, and when I created it in single player it was actively snowing and overcast... but when I ported it to my multiplayer server it got clear and snow stopped falling (but snow still accumulates on the ground)

Also, since it's a multiplayer server, night monsters are a non-issue.

We've built a house inside a mountain we found. I think it looks pretty nice

The approach (with extremely tall fire beacon for navigation)



Front yard, with the snow kept back by torches



First floor "kitchen" and living room



2nd floor 1



2nd floor 2



3rd floor, with some of my "art" taking up most of the main area



The lava "art" in the master bedroom



The view of the grotto from the master bedroom at night



On the roof, I made a geothermal hot tub :cool:



Oh, and here's that lighthouse I was talking about earlier - as with my previous, single player tower, it's got areas for tree and wheat growth, but I gave each their own level to do so.



#136

GasBandit

GasBandit

Oh yeah, and I forgot one other thing... our next project is building a really big castle. We've just barely gotten started. Even clearing/levelling the land has been a huge undertaking.



#137

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Wow... my best castle looks like a sloppy hovel compared to your creation...


#138

figmentPez

figmentPez

I finally found my first spider, and it dropped two string! Woo! Not enough for a bow, but I'm close.


#139

GasBandit

GasBandit

Wow... my best castle looks like a sloppy hovel compared to your creation...
Which, the castle, or the mountain home? The castle's barely started, it really is epically huge in undertaking. What you see has taken us two days.

If you mean the interior of the mountain home, the credit there is mostly to the little woman. It was interesting comparing her first single player world to mine... I came to realize I built "houses" that were really tiny, spartan, utilitarian workshop outposts with scenic overlooks and defensive battlements. SHE built homes. Spacious, decorated, color-and-texture coordinated homes... that were not particularly defensible or utilitarian. So we started collaborating and I think it worked. Of course, it being a multiplayer server, and health and monsters not being a factor there, home defense has fallen by the wayside in favor of aesthetics.

Still, I wish like hell mine carts worked in multiplayer. It takes forever to get around on foot, even with elevated walkways. I've got empty bays in all my structures (including, in the mountain home, an entire 4th floor "hangar bay" area that I didn't take pictures of, because it's basically an empty room with an opening in the cliff face) for rail depots, against the day if/when carts DO work on multiplayer... and I'm praying that when that day comes, the cart boosting mechanic (ok, BUG) will be left in effect.


#140

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

I just lost like 3 hours of mining, ugh. I was on my way up to store all my stuff (forgot to bring wood) and a zombie dropped down on me and killed me almost instantly. I'm SOMEWHERE in a giant cave system. I don't know how long your items last, but I could potentially find them again if I had like 15 minutes.

Egh.. I lost like 6 diamond, which doesn't bother me too much, but I found so much gold and iron!! Bagh!

Edit: Hah! Found them! Luckily I was almost at the cave entrance when I died (which I didn't realize at the time) but it still took a few minutes to get there. (I started a second base a little ways away for the fun of it.)

The only reason I was able to get there so quickly was because I built a (completely unrealistic) bridge of dirt that spans over my many hills. More so I don't get lost than anything.

I haven't built anything amazing like you guys. I'm trying to pace myself, so my base is still a shitty "starter base" where I probably have the resources to make it look awesome.

I think my first "big" project will be a huge pirate ship.


#141

GasBandit

GasBandit

Some more images to clog the thread: Using Cartographer, I snapped a couple shots of the world we're currently working on:

First pic, day, from an oblique angle ( click for full size ):




Second Pic, isometric angle, facing the other direction. click for full size




In both pictures you can see my hot tub practically from space :p


#142

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

A picture of an Idol of some kind my character seems to worship. It represents some kind of god-like being with water pouring from one hand and fire from the other. When he hadn't found lava yet, he had him hold some torches, but I have to admit it's much more impressive this way. And it explains why all his work flattening this hill area.



#143

GasBandit

GasBandit

Make him have a bigger head, with redstone torches for eyes!


#144

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

Well, this is just a small idol. When the area surrounding The Paramecium is purified from monsters, he'll probably want to build a big shrine devoted to his gods. I'm sure such a statue will be built.

(Thanks! Now I know what to do with all the redstone I keep finding!)


#145

GasBandit

GasBandit

Well, this is just a small idol. When the area surrounding The Paramecium is purified from monsters, he'll probably want to build a big shrine devoted to his gods. I'm sure such a statue will be built.

(Thanks! Now I know what to do with all the redstone I keep finding!)
What you do with redstone, other than build the computer on page 3 (I think it was 3?), is you build a tram station that delivers carts to you on demand from an unseen mechanism in an adjacent room.



#146

figmentPez

figmentPez

I just spent like 4 hours straight playing. So much for it not taking up all my time...


The rear doors of my complex.


A view down at my starting area, though I haven't died yet, so I'm not actually sure it's there and not somewhere else nearby. I planted all the cactus and the trees near them. The reeds are natural.


Top floor of my tower, a checkerboard pattern in glass and cobblestone.


#147

strawman

strawman

I just wish I had the time to do all the stuff other people are doing! I barely get a little cave carved out in the time it seems other people develop mile long minecart systems and huge labyrinthine castles...


#148

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

I found a cave system about 6x larger and deeper than the last cave system I found (Which took me several hours to explore and mine). There's a zombie generator somewhere that I can't find again, I'm out of torches, and I have no chance of finding my way back out. I have a buttload of diamonds, gold, and iron on me, with no wood to make a temporary chest or even more tools, and I'm down to my diamond pick.

I've decided my best chance is to dig straight upwards and try to come out the surface somewhere, hopefully during the day. I just have to hope that I don't hit any lava, monster-filled caves, or that I'm under a mountain.

Wish me luck! :D

(Thank Notch I have a compass on me.)


#149

figmentPez

figmentPez

I'm a little more conservative in my exploration than DoomDragon. I started a stairway down, just outside a door into my home. I hit a little coal and some iron on the way down, and one block of redstone ore, but mostly just rock. I just kept going further and further down, without hitting anything. I thought for sure I was going to hit bedrock without anything to show for it.

Then I hit a big pocket of gravel, and clearing that out revealed a gigantic series of caves. I didn't even manage to explore them all. I found gold, redstone, mushrooms, lava, water, creepers, zombies, skeletons, and lots of coal and iron. I didn't mine most of it, because I'm a coward who didn't want to loose anything. I'm going to build a station at the bottom of my stairs, and then start slowly exploring my now, mostly, well-lit cave. Hopefully I'll find diamonds at some point.


#150

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

Well, I dug straight up with little problems. I started hearing water about halfway up, which got me worried. If I struck water and it started pouring in, I would drown with no real way to escape. So I dug some pockets where I could potentially save myself and breathe (all in nigh pitch-blackness mind you). Digging up again, I broke into the edge of a cavern, and saw a small waterfall in there, which made me feel better about the water, but I had to block off that area and dig up again, where I hit another pocket of cavern, again blocking it up. Kept digging and eventually heard a chicken, then broke out onto the surface. It was night, but I saw a torch off in the distance, so I''m not too far from my secondary base. Makes sense, but I honestly had no idea where I'd end up.

I'm relieved because a few blocks left or right would have put me smack dab in the center of a cavern or even the waterfall.

Now to store this stuff, restock tools, and head back down. It just keeps going, with no end whatsoever.

The first cave system I found took about 5 hours to explore and mine, and I was able to mark off the branches to know where I had been, but it's impossible with this one.


#151

strawman

strawman

I'm playing on the multiplayer server 174.115.194.21 now. Lots of fun, because I don't have to worry about creepers (multiplayer has no creeps), or dying at all (falls don't hurt).

So I'm just building, mining, etc.

The other players on there have built some wicked amazing stuff. A full stadium. An elevated freeway/skyway (which I extended to my little hovel), etc, etc.

Anyway, ya'll should come play.


#152

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Kind of sad, watching this thread made me decide to go get the game, but the paypal site for whatever reason will not accept either of my credit cards.

Looks like no Minecraft for me.


#153

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Well, screenshots have been taken. 19 in all for giving a very general overview of part of my shenanigans. Post will come in several parts sometime soon. Probably sometime over the week.

---------- Post added at 09:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:01 AM ----------

For now, a far away night shot of quite a few of my shenanigans. Also, there's a spider on the beach.



#154



rabbitgod

Well I bought it just the other night. It has been pretty addictive. I keep digging straight down and falling into lava and so I just start a new world. Unfortunately I had this awesome world with a shallow cave that I was going to build something like this Montezuma Castle National Monument (U.S. National Park Service)

Sadly I forgot about it when I deleted that world. Started a new one and vow to play smart and not fall into lava all the time.


#155

drifter

drifter

I've got a lot of things cooking in game right now, but here's one project I've more or less finished, which I think turned out pretty cool.
I may expand on this concept later and try my hand at a mini-Dyson's sphere, if I don't burn out first.



Another shot at night


#156



rabbitgod

I am really really dumb. I didn't realize that I could toggle Fog. So I completely abandoned one world that was going pretty well because I couldn't find my way home (hadn't found redstone yet). Gah, I should really look at everything before I take any action.

On the plus side, my staircase mineshaft is working out a lot better for me than the vertical style I was making before. It takes longer, but I'm not falling and I have plenty of platforms to start side shafts.


#157

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Nice. Do you use the waterfall to get into and out of your sphere?


#158

drifter

drifter

Nice. Do you use the waterfall to get into and out of your sphere?
Yep. I actually made the waterfall purely for aesthetic reasons, but it turned out quite handy.

-edit-

Oh yeah, if anyone else is interested in making spheres, I found the plans from here:
Perfect spheres - blueprints inside - Official Minecraft Forums


#159

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

I'm making a pirate ship.

Here's hopin' it turns out cool. I'm not very good at planning stuff like this.


#160



Rubicon

So I'm working on my world, I zip it up and carry it back and forth between work and home so I can meddle with it here and there.

Originally I started out with the big tower landmark idea, that helped at first. then I kept getting lost from my initial little cobblestone building I made to weather the nights. Now even on normal difficulty, it can be easy to die. Zombies and spiders aren't much of an issue, dodging creepers and friggin arrow shooting skeletons is my issue. So to start I died, a lot. I then played super conservative, at least until I built up some resources.

From my starting little rock hut, I began major excavations;



Instead of just randomly going in a direction, I figured I'd go straight down. Mainly in hopes of finding iron and diamond. Still haven't found a lick of diamond but I've slowly built up some iron over time. Once I got down to a decent level, I started to branch out.




I remembered a large mountain range from the surface, so I aimed my tunnel(s) that way. Now eventually I wanted to have a back door leading to a surface entrance, so I started digging my way up.




Instead of playing bunny hop for a few minutes each time I wanted to go up to the exit, I spent some time, a small chunk at least, on crafting cobblestone stairs. They came in handy. They do however take a shit ton of materials, it's 6 materials = 1 set of stairs. Yea.




Now, I know what some may think, a ring of torches around the building? A fence would be better to keep things from getting close, but my problem was always shit spawning near my door, and once sunlight came up, having to fight off Creepers and Spiders. I don't mind Creepers but jesus I hate having to rebuild my base when they assplode.. To the left, I am starting a mansion of wood, that will house multiple floors, a tree built in, etc.




I finally get the outter foundation of the mansion started and the floor boards in, and oh look another big green penis coming to explode :confused: I dispatched him quickly before he blew a huge hole in my floor.

Still working on that, mining tons of wood for the mansion, planting new trees to replace all the ones I'm choppin down. I always keep a suit of iron armor on, it really helps. I rarely use iron for tools unless I'm mining rock. Still havent found diamond :( On ward ho I guess.


#161

figmentPez

figmentPez

Instead of playing bunny hop for a few minutes each time I wanted to go up to the exit, I spent some time, a small chunk at least, on crafting cobblestone stairs. They came in handy. They do however take a shit ton of materials, it's 6 materials = 1 set of stairs. Yea.
It's 6 materials = 4 sets of stairs, isn't it?


Anyway, I've added another couple floors onto my tower.

Cartograph rendering


Lava Lights!


View from the ground floor


from farther away.



I found diamonds using Cartograph. I probably won't use it for ore location in the future, but a combination of wanting instant gratification and being curious if I could successfully locate diamond with it was enough to get me to dig a couple of caches out. I've got 11 diamond now, and I'm not sure what I want to make.


#162

Far

Far

Well I've built my spire top fort as tall as I can and also put an outer balcony around near the top. I plan on adding lava fountains, once I figure out how to go about it so I'll be able to see it really well from a distance.



Note: I do not condone the pig's behaviour.

Also here is one of those top down views of my world. Red circles are entrances to my mine. Light blue is where I take the screenshot of the fort from. The house is where I respawn. Purple and yellow are the two ways up to the sky fortress. The top most purple cirlce is supposed to be red, messed that one up.

Delsorda Map


#163

tegid

tegid

I still think that an in-game metal detector should be available. Maybe 4 diamond, 4 redstone, and one glass so it's not something you get right out the gate, but once you've put in a bit of work to make it, it would be a tremendous help.
Someone should suggest this to the Notch guy.


#164

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

@Far You seem to be playing Alpha like me, but what's up with your graphics? I first noticed your pigs look very different from mine (and other screens here), and then I noticed your HUD looks different, and your items have different graphics too. Your stone, axe, picks, etc all look different.

Wazzup with that?


#165

Far

Far

I'm running a custom texture pack from painterly.

Home of The Minecraft Painterly Pack

Just go there and make one that suits what you want, pretty sure they have instructions on how to install but if you get tripped up just let me know. Make sure you back up your saves before hand if your going to go messing around in the workings of the game though.

I'm also running something called the better grass mod. All it does is if the top of a block has grass on it and the ones below it do as well, instead of having the brown dirt it puts another grass tile on the side. I find it make hills and things look a bit more sloped from far away.

Seems the link on the forums to that has been removed though.


#166

drifter

drifter

You can download various skins/textures to replace the default graphics. I myself am currently rocking a Canti (from FLCL) avatar skin.


#167

GasBandit

GasBandit

There are many UI and texture reskins available. Check the official forums, they have a whole subforum for them. In my first video I was using a higher resolution texture pack, too, but I switched back to normal because I wanted animated lava/water.


#168

Far

Far

The one that I'm using still allows animated water and lava. I had been using the one you put up for a bit gas but the non animated lava and grass bugged me as well.


#169

GasBandit

GasBandit

That castle I posted on the previous page is coming along really nicely. Just for reference's sake, the walls of the castle (not the towers) are 10 meters high, 11 if you count the merlons. The inside is coming together really nicely too.. it's downright palatial. The second floor guest rooms are huge and lavish (and there's like 7 of them. The main hall seats dozens, there are barracks enough to house 20 soldiers and staff quarters for 5. And a library/sitting room, a full kitchen with a gigantic fireplace and spacious larder with 10 double chests and 15 furnaces...

... and it's not even done yet. Going to build the master suites onto the roof next, with throne/reception room, master living quarters, aviary and space set aside up high for (of course) the tram station, to be installed once mine carts work in multiplayer.


#170

Far

Far

Be very carfeful whilst transporting lava that you don't accidently drop the stuff in your house. You'd think I would have learned from the other guy. Not a total loss though. It really only managed to spread to the roof of my smaller hut and the sky bridge. Now it just makes them seem more open. I'll probably either leave them open or just put glass up there now. I'm going to be remaking the floor of the bridge stone though so this doesn't happen again.



#171

GasBandit

GasBandit

Balconies coming off the guest rooms


Entryway/Foyer fireplace and staircase


Interior of guest room-


#172

strawman

strawman

Why isn't there an infiniminer/minecraft/block-style-game on iphone/ipad yet?

If one did exist, what would you want in it, and what would you want different from minecraft?


#173

linglingface

linglingface

I want good Minecraft cosplay, dammit!


Minecraft cosplay @ PAX 2010
Hey I took that picture! Haha, now I know what it is. Yay!

I've never played Minecraft but I may have to check it out. Looks verrryy interesting.


#174

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

Aw man, why did you guys show me Painterly? I'm a sucker for mods.


#175

Far

Far

Last update for me today I think. Finished the lava fountains after recovering from the mishap I had earlier. Now I'm probably going to start a moat around the base of the structure. I've also been cleaning up my mine a bit, going in adding stairs where before I would just be jumping to get around. Makes things go a little smoother I've found.

I didn't even think to clear the trees below where the fountains drop to and accidently started some forest fires.



Delsorda map update


#176

Dave

Dave

Am I the only one who thinks this "game" is stupid? It reminds me of the boredom of Spore. Initially cool but very boring very fast.


#177

strawman

strawman

Am I the only one who thinks this "game" is stupid? It reminds me of the boredom of Spore. Initially cool but very boring very fast.
No, there are at least 129 other people who agree with you.

http://www.google.com/search?q="minecraft is stupid"


#178

Gusto

Gusto

Am I the only one who thinks this "game" is stupid? It reminds me of the boredom of Spore. Initially cool but very boring very fast.
Anytime I feel compelled to maybe give it a shot, I go play the Sims instead. Scratches a similar itch.


#179



Rubicon

I just wish I had a gaming rig that could handle the multiplayer better. The multiplayer alpha was my reason for buying it, working as a team to build massive stuff, fighting off zombies etc but the MP server code is more strain than the single player


#180

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

@Dave

Where Spore was actually boring as shit, Minecraft is awesome. Plus there are several mods out there that can make the game more fun, I've found out.

Example: a mod that lets you have fire, ice, egg, and exploding arrows!


#181

Far

Far

I think the reason I like it, as well as the reason I enjoyed parts of spore, is the building aspect. As I tinker around in the game and view others creations I get inspired. Creature building in spore was always more enjoyable for me than the game. Minecraft also reminds me of a very basic dwarf fortress which, while I was always interested in, I never actually got around to learning how to play.


#182

drifter

drifter

Be very carfeful whilst transporting lava that you don't accidently drop the stuff in your house. You'd think I would have learned from the other guy. Not a total loss though. It really only managed to spread to the roof of my smaller hut and the sky bridge. Now it just makes them seem more open. I'll probably either leave them open or just put glass up there now. I'm going to be remaking the floor of the bridge stone though so this doesn't happen again.
This. I lost 80% of my sky house due to a lava mishap. I thought I was okay since the lava was surrounded by water, but I didn't consider the embers.


#183

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Since WoW was boring me last night I figured out how to finally get this game. I have to say the game does have a strange charm. My only issue with it so far is the weird fact that, even though the graphics seems rather "meh" it eats up my laptop worst then WoW.

Last night I built a fortress inside a mountain, making a pretty good system of tunnels. I really wish my pick didn't break so quickly though. I also made a stair system to the top of the mountain and plan to move out to other areas sometime soon to make a real shelter.

Though, that will have to be later. I got a lot of stuff to do today. :p


#184

PatrThom

PatrThom

Am I the only one who thinks this "game" is stupid? It reminds me of the boredom of Spore. Initially cool but very boring very fast.
I have a friend at work who thinks similarly. He says the game looks like a hideous time suck (it is) and he thinks it is clever but would not be willing to invest that kind of time in something where you couldn't "blow some shit up." Then again, he's more of a CoD/WoW/Starcraft player, and so the lack of adrenaline-fueled action and big explosions probably isn't doing it for him.

If you choose a house because it has plenty of garage space, is in a good area where it will appreciate, is close to work, is in a good neighborhood with good schools, etc., then you probably won't like the game.
If, however, you choose a house because the basement will let you move in all your woodworking equipment, because you enjoy a good fixer-upper, because you have awesome plans for decorating the great room, or because you are positive you could put together an awesome Hallowe'en/Christmas display on the roof/lawn, then you'll probably enjoy it.

Differ'nt strokes, and all that.

--Patrick


#185

drifter

drifter

As far as I can tell, there is no way to make everlasting lava. If you don't mind using them, there are tools available that can be used to edit your inventory if you really want that much obsidian.


#186

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

My only issue with it so far is the weird fact that, even though the graphics seems rather "meh" it eats up my laptop worst then WoW.
That might have to do with it generating world. The game generates immediate surroundings based on when you explore. Once you settle down, your immediate surroundings will already be generated, so the game should use less resources.

If you find the game is still using too many resources even when not randomly generating the world, try lowering your Render Distance by pressing F until you reach your desired distance or selecting one that you like in the Options.


#187

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

As far as I can tell, there is no way to make everlasting lava. If you don't mind using them, there are tools available that can be used to edit your inventory if you really want that much obsidian.
That works, but you don't even need to do that. You can usually find source block magma streams deep in the earth, that will give you like 20-30 Obsidian if you dump water on them. Just takes a bit of work to find them.


#188

GasBandit

GasBandit

The graphics are "meh" but the worldmap is huge. The game will eat every CPU cycle you give it. Fortunately, even my laptop seems to be able to run it well for the most part... but even my badass quad core 8800gtx rig sometimes stutters right when I start a new world ..

But my work computer just. can't. handle it. I'm lucky to get 2fps.

This is why you don't use java for serious applications, I'm afraid.


#189

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

Today I made probably the most useless builidng I've built yet. a little tiny chapel like thing with flaming crosses on it (Yeah, I have to find another religious symbol to make in torches without invoking the KKK) with a small golden altar inside, full of water and with little hole on top of one of the walls with an egg in it.
It's the "Water temple on Creeper Hill". It seems I basically like to invent a wacky religion for my character...


#190

Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

I am resisting the urge to invest in this, because I already don't have time to play the games that I own....... but y'all are making this seem fun as hell!


#191

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Well, a lot of the screen shots are out of date, since I've put some work in, build some new things, and also updated my game graphically to a Painterly Pack. Images are going to be behind spoiler tags to keep the post small.

My central hub. It would have been larger if not for the fact that the game wouldn't let me go any higher near the top. One of my things to do is to take out the second block up and replace them with glass. In the left of the image, you can see part of my treetop walkways. To the right is one of my bridges.


Here's the ground floor. Every floor is made out of glass, with cobblestone being used for areas with stair cases and anywhere I needed a pressure plate. Part of my motivation for upgrading the graphics is so you would actually be able to see through the floors without it looking like a jumbled mess.


Here's the entrance to the hub from my treetop walkways.


Here's my tree top farm. Because the mountain slope is high up relative to the farm, it's not completely safe from Skeletons. Mostly, this is for the novelty of growing trees on top of other trees.



#192

strawman

strawman

I haven't looked at the source code, but I'm getting a very strong vibe that his entire rendering pipeline is in java. I don't think he's using opengl, so the CPU is doing all the rendering.

It's not terrible, given everything is pretty much square, but it makes the game painful to play on lesser machines, even with a high end video card.

Surprisingly, it even slows down in full screen mode on my quad core i7.


#193

figmentPez

figmentPez

I was exploring the large caverns deep beneath my home today, when I heard zombies through the wall. It took a lot of digging to find them, and then there were only two inside a small boring pocket. Found a dozen or so iron while I was working my way to them, though. So, not that bad.

Here's an aerial view of my ongoing tower project. I'm building a rooftop garden, but I don't want to show too much before I finish:


Some of what's there isn't permanent, there's a ring of scaffolding that's up to allow me to place torches on the underside of the top platform.

When I'm done there will be a little something of everything in my garden. Trees, reeds, cactus, flowers, flowing water and more. It's already quite peaceful up there.


#194



Rubicon



Work on the mansion is slow. I got the structure built.. but even in daylight it is FULL of skeles and creepers. Even if I kite around and kill skeles, creepers keep making big dents in it.. forcing me to rebuild over and over. I've opened up some skylights for sunshine to help kill skeles/zombies. Hope to get a ass load of torches inside it.


#195

Far

Far

Figured out what to do with the sky bridge ceiling and the hut.





View now, looking down the tunnel.



#196

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

You should boat-elevator up that sometime just because/


#197

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

I ran into a frickin' crazy cavern today.

It had non-stop enemies. When I first discovered this, I had to take out 3 zombies, 4 skeletons, 2 spiders, and 3 creepers all at once.

The rest of the several hours of spelunking was pretty much the same, but me putting up constant walls to protect myself. I mean holy SHIT there were just non-stop creatures. I actually had to check to see if I had somehow put in on hard mode. Even though hard mode would have been easier than this.

I kept scouring for what was causing all this-- like 4 dungeons side by side or something, but nothing like that. I DID however find 3 different dungeons, but all very scattered, and with no possible access to the rest of the caverns.

I also noticed that creatures kept falling from above, so I theorized that they were spawning somewhere way up high, falling down here to get me, and then since they had "left" their area, it would respawn them, creating more and more mobs.

There was one spot where I could see several creatures of different types hopping around a gap, so I broke open the blocking piece (from a raised distance) and a FLOOD of zombies, creepers, skellies, and spiders. Easily 15 of them.

It was just non-stop though. I opened up into one area and literally say like 15-20 creatures crawling around it at once. Always coming, trying to get me, shoot me, etc. The skeletons were the worst.

I've done a lot of cavern crawling and no other cavern has been anything like this. I eventually used up half my diamond sword and about 150 arrows, along with 128 torches, and decided it was too much. So I finally put it on peaceful just so I could have a chance of making it out alive. I couldn't find my way out, so I decided to dig straight up and see where I ended up.

Where I started: An island not too far from my base
Where I went: wayyyyyyyyyyyy out west, then into the cavern
Where I surfaced: Right outside my main base

Awesome.

Here are some pics of the insanity-- I had to up the brightness so you could see. Another is a huddle of shit. Imagine that, non-stop (like, kill 3 creatures and 3 more are on the way).

This pic doesn't do the hoarde of enemies justice. You can look and see like 7 things here, but only because the other 15 crawled behind a wall.


Huge huddle.


#198

figmentPez

figmentPez

I'm glad there aren't many monsters in the caves I've been exploring.

I heard water through the wall, so I started digging. I eventually found some water, though it wasn't what I'd heard. I found a new cave system and it wound down until it got to a huge pool of lava with two sources of water over it, so it's almost covered by a huge sheet of obsidian. At that point I'd been playing too long, so I headed back to my base. (Having mined a fair amount of coal, iron, redstone and a little gold).

I thought for sure I'd explored some huge distance from my base, and I would have if it had been in a straight line. Checking in Cartograph for where I'd placed torches, I was still right underneath the hill my fortress is on.


#199

LordRendar

LordRendar

So i tried playing this on my pc. but i got this error

EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x6954ac8e, pid=2496, tid=5676

i tried the minecraft forums,reinstalled java then uninstalled ,registry clean and installed java again.
my drivers are uptodate.
using win 7 32bit.
anyone got any idea how to fix this?


#200

drifter

drifter

I don't remember if it's the same thing, but when I first downloaded Minecraft, it wouldn't run. On the same page there was a link to another executable if the first linked file didn't work, and when I downloaded that second one, Minecraft worked fine.


#201

LordRendar

LordRendar

Didnt work. :(


#202

drifter

drifter

Okay, image dump of what I've been up to: my sky house. I saw this formation with the natural waterfall, and instantly knew what I wanted to do with it. I've also carved out rooms inside the mountain, but most of it isn't very interesting.



I was inspired by one of GasBandit's previous posts to try and decorate a little, with mixed results. When I originally started building, I didn't put much thought into usable floor space, so things are a bit awkward. First, the top level, which I made my bedroom.



Second level is the dining room and kitchen.



Third is the entertainment level, with a barbecue pit and diving board.



The diving board goes straight into a pool I made which connects to the waterfall.



A ground level view of the pool.



One of my favorite things; a secret room behind the lavafall.



Oh yeah, and the one interesting thing I carved out of the mountain; the greenhouse. The night time picture isn't all that impressive, but it lets you see the flaming beacon I put at the top.



#203

LordRendar

LordRendar

I want to play Minecraft so bad! I bought Civilization 5 and was pretty disappointed. :( Gonna go back to win xp to see if it works on thet platform.


#204

figmentPez

figmentPez

Damn, drifter, that is some mighty impressive construction. How much time have you been spending on this?


#205

drifter

drifter

Pretty much all my free time has been spent on Minecraft. When I said I hated you all for showing me this game, I was only half-joking ;)


#206

LordRendar

LordRendar

So i got this game to run finally after changing to Omega Drivers and,damn.suddenly its 4 in the morning. -.-

i dug a mine down to find a huge ass cavern full of lava. (i learned the hard way not to dig up the block yoou are standing on)
any tips on finding iron?


#207

GasBandit

GasBandit

Iron is most easily found in natural caves fairly deep underground (but not necessarily down at the bedrock layer)

There's a variety of ways to find natural caves:

My least favorite way: Dig a diagonal shaft (stairs going down) until you either hit cave or hear monsters. When you hear monsters, dig toward them.

My "if it's available" way: Find open caves on the surface , follow them down into the earth.

My "this shouldn't work but it's given me my best mines" way: Put everything in a chest in your house. Take some stone picks, some stone shovels, some logs, 64 ladders and 64 torches. Pick a random point and dig straight down. If you don't hit anything until you hit bedrock, just jump-fill your way back up and pick a new spot. If you hit lava, reoutfit yourself the same and try again a few meters from your first try. If you hit open cave, immediately go back up the shaft alternating ladder/torch/ladder/torch/ladder/torch on each wall tile up the shaft.

Once you've found a natural cavern, explore it completely. Any gravel you come across (or dirt, below sea level) clear out entirely with your shovel as about half the time it obscures another branch of the cavern. You'll be swimming in iron before you know it.


#208

GasBandit

GasBandit

Oh, and the castle? It's REALLY coming together now... Floors 1 and 2 are done, floor 3 is half done and still got floors 5 and 6 to go, but it's already looking awesome. Maybe I'll have pictures for monday. Or... I dunno, it's been such work and I am so proud of it I'm considering temporarily throwing up a publically accessible server just to let you guys look through it with your own eyes. The main feasting hall is awesome, with gold block chandeliers and giant fireplaces, a round table and a few long tables... all the guest quarters are done and the little woman decorated them by theme... the sand room, the clay room, the ducal suite, etc. Just finished work on the throne room last night. She says my flaming obsidian throne is "gaudy." But I'm not sure I'm willing to take gaudiness critique from someone who built THEIR throne entirely out of redstone ore blocks so it looks like every inch of it is ruby encrusted.

Still have the Grand Royal Suite to finish, and haven't even started the garden courtyards yet... or the outer wall. The mine we dug for the materials for all this is now a huge sprawling cavern complex that I built a small mausoleum over the entrance. After all, in these castles, the mausoleum always has catacombs under it, right?

We also plan to build a small village outside the gates. Man. I just realized that no matter how far we've come, we still have a long way to go to finish this.


#209

twitchmoss

twitchmoss

started my latest big project :D


#210

figmentPez

figmentPez

I had a rather odd experience. I finally managed to get Minecraft to run on my netbook (it had been crashing) and when it was obvious it wasn't going to run well enough to want to play it, I decided to just goof around instead. I gathered up a lot of wood, and just started digging straight down. Nothing much interesting happened, until I hit adminium....

Down there I found this:

A hole in the bottom of the world. Step down into that hole, and there's no coming back. Stumbling around in the dark, the first time, I fell through that hole and had no idea what happened. It took a while to get back down safely, but I think that screenshot is worth it.


#211

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

It's called "the void." It's actually a well-documented glitch(?) in the game. My friend had found a bunch, and I decided to go "find" one and I found one fairly quickly.

Still fucked up though, if you think about the game in a real-world sense. :)


#212

strawman

strawman

Yeah, he put a lot of work into making it so that the world never ends horizontally, but he didn't extend that code into infinite vertical height and depth, which would have not been much more difficult than the horizontal bit.

Still, if you dig deep enough into Earth, you end at the impenetrable "core" where everything melts, so there is some basis in reality.


#213

Far

Far

Cartographers of my maps progress. Finished the lava moat then connected to the hill with those cobblestone walkways. Flattened the top of the new hill and started on some circular structures there. Should be starting a tram system soon. Might hold off until I have a bit more steel.

Edit: In the lower right-hand corner is a beacon I placed so I could find my shore easily as I did some exploring that way. Thinking of putting lava flows up top.



#214

figmentPez

figmentPez

I found yet another set of caverns while digging today. 32 iron so far, plus redstone I haven't mined yet. The best find was a big dome so tall that torches on the floor didn't light the ceiling very well. As I was trying to light the perimiter, I realized I wasn't going to be able to get the center lit, so I went out and planted one on the floor... and right next to my torch was diamond. My first deposit to be found without the aid of Cartograph. I haven't dug it out yet, so I don't know how much is in there. Could be just one.


#215

drifter

drifter

Lava flow beacons are awesome. Very easy to see in daytime.



#216

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

After two weeks without my computer, I have a lot of work to catch up to you guys! Sheesh!

Built a bridge from the front of my castle to the closest unconnected plateau:


A view of the bridge from above:


#217

figmentPez

figmentPez

I was feeling crappy this morning, so I just zoned out with Minecraft.

I built a simple mine cart system to get up and down from my mine. Much better than walking that long flight of stairs.

Then I dug some stairs just for the heck of it,

and found redstone and diamond right outside my mine's basecamp.


When I'd dug to the surface, I boated around for a bit. My tower is visible from a long ways off, and it's not even up in the clouds.

That inspired me to explore a nearby cave. I discovered it fairly early on, but it was a big vertical shaft going down pretty deep. So I put a sign up "Deep Dark Cave" and left it. That sign was very accurate. I didn't even come close to exploring it all. I didn't see bedrock, but there were quite a few very large lava pools. I got horribly lost and it took me quite a while to get out, but by the time I did I had: 6 Diamond, 22 Redstone, 10 Gold, 43 Iron, 8 Brown Mushrooms, 5 Red Mushrooms and a bunch of coal (some of which I'd had to turn into torches).

Then I finished up my rooftop garden:


It's really peacful up there, I'm so happy with how it turned out.


At night, looking the other way.


Overall view


And the view from the top is spectacular.


#218

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Built a tower going from the corner of my bridge down to the valley below:


A view of the tower from the bottom:


#219

figmentPez

figmentPez

I'm tempted to try this building method:



#220

drifter

drifter

That'd be a great way to recreate the Great Wall. Hmmm :)


#221

FnordBear

FnordBear

All I will say is I was on Vicodin at the time...



#222

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

LOL


#223

GasBandit

GasBandit

You guys remember Herobrine?

Sleep tight.



#224

FnordBear

FnordBear

Avast!


#225

GasBandit

GasBandit

Another interesting note - Cartograph apparently doesn't know how to render iron blocks (the kind you make with 9 iron bars)

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MineEdit, eh? ;) busteeeeed

Heh, not that I have room to talk much. Since I'm running the server, I've basically given myself unlimited TNT via the /give command. Clearing land for stuff would take forever without it. And in the process, I've blown some REALLY big holes.


#226

GasBandit

GasBandit

Iso cartograph of the castle as of last night - doesn't do it justice, but all I have to offer for the moment.

edit: big png is big. Linked instead of embedded.


#227

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

I'm building a pirate ship too. Not finished yet. Will post pics when done.


#228

Adam

Adammon

OK, I have to ask, how are you guys doing all of this building? I cannot for the life of me complete mini projects before I have to hide out from encroaching zombies. And I have yet to find any advanced materials other than a few pieces of iron which are few and far between. Are you guys map editing first and then playing the game to walk through or is this all in game? If so, wow!


#229

drifter

drifter

Torches everywhere. Keeps enemies from spawning around where you're working. Theoretically, at ground level you need to place torches on the ground with a max interval of 17 spaces between torches in a row, with each row staggered to make a checkerboard pattern. This supposedly provides max light coverage with a minimum of torches (I've never tried it, I just place torches haphazardly). The further down you go, the closer the interval of torches needs to be.

I admit that since I've started my big projects, I've simply turned to Peaceful mode so I can just build and not worry about getting an assload of coal and sticks for torches.


#230

GasBandit

GasBandit

OK, I have to ask, how are you guys doing all of this building? I cannot for the life of me complete mini projects before I have to hide out from encroaching zombies. And I have yet to find any advanced materials other than a few pieces of iron which are few and far between. Are you guys map editing first and then playing the game to walk through or is this all in game? If so, wow!
All in-game. My castle, though, is on a multiplayer server, so monsters don't work right (nothing does health damage to you or anything else, currently), so they're turned off. In single player, you can accomplish the same thing by turning the difficulty to "peaceful." You can always turn it back up later if you so wish.

But my various towers and whatnots were all built having to kill/defend from the restless dead at night, same as you. The secret is torches and fenceposts. Build torches to light your work area, build fences around the area so the risen horrors don't wander into you from out in the dark, dark night.

All I can say is, everything goes so much faster when you're building/mining with a partner.


#231

FnordBear

FnordBear

For my big projects I just turn on peaceful mode, if I need TNT for "rapid landscaping" I will load up mine edit and drop it in my inventory, also use mine edit to reset the time of day for screenshoting :)


#232

figmentPez

figmentPez

You guys remember Herobrine?

Sleep tight.

*SNIP*

Boo! Bad form! The original was subtly-creepy and worked to set a mood. That's just a cheap jump-scare.


#233

Far

Far

All of my building has been done in Alpha, in-game, usually on normal except for the few times I have bumped it up to hard to see what it was like. I find creatures rarely, if ever, spawn really high up so it has made building most of my things pretty easy, day or night. Material collecting is usually where I get rocked, and not actually during the collecting. Usually I'll be exploring a cave, jump down too far a couple of times and lose a few health then continue on and eventually run into a gaggle of skeletons who take me down even further. My back-peddling in order to escape them more often than not pushes me into a creeper and once you hear the "ssssSSSSS" it's pretty hard to flee the blast radius if you aren't expecting it.


#234

figmentPez

figmentPez

The Penny Arcade Forum is doing some pretty impressive building on their multi-player Minecraft server. They've got an underwater City of Rapture, a flying city of Columbia (from Bioshock Infinite), a couple of big airships in progress, a cactrot, a gameboy and lots of other buildings. It's pretty amazing. Check out the thread for pics and Cartograph renders.


#235

drifter

drifter

I've been putting a lot of effort into my latest project, and it's getting pretty close to finished. Here's a partial screenshot.



I'm really happy with how this is turning out. It doesn't compare to that insane Rapture build, but I may put up a video to show it off :)


#236

PatrThom

PatrThom

Dangit, people! I can't even quit playing long enough to edit and post my carefully composited screenshots, and now everything has changed and they're no longer current AAAAAAHH!!!

--Patrick


#237

drifter

drifter

Breathe, man! I say post'em anyway, it's always interesting to see how things develop over time.


#238

figmentPez

figmentPez

I built a big lava tube light for my rooftop garden. No pics because I wasn't sure I liked how it turned out.

This evening I looked up at my tower and saw fire. Apparently closing in lava with glass isn't enough, or I needed more coverage on the top. Thankfully it was just three trees that burned. I don't have much flammable up there, but it could have torched the walkways for my wheat. Not sure if the water would have protected my storage chest.

The lava light is now a big obsidian torch-holder. Pics when I get the torches all up.


#239

FnordBear

FnordBear

Remember lava will send out little fireballs periodically that will set stuff on fire. If you use glass to enclose it on all sides you should be groovey though.


#240

figmentPez

figmentPez

Remember lava will send out little fireballs periodically that will set stuff on fire. If you use glass to enclose it on all sides you should be groovey though.
It was enclosed on all sides, except the top diagonals. A cross section would have looked like this:

-%-
%*%
%%%

- open
% glass
* lava

If it hadn't been glass, the lava wouldn't have been visible.


#241

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

Egh. I've had to switch the game to peaceful mode. I don't know what the hell it is, but every cavern i come across now is just swarming with monsters. It becomes nearly impossible to explore, because I kill 2 zombies and 2 creepers, go to place a torch, and then there are 3 more creepers running at me!!

I don't know what it is. I've been playing on normal this entire game, and the first caverns I began exploring were NORMAL. One creature every now and then, maybe 2-3 here or there (which is about what I saw in other peoples' videos).

Then all of a sudden I break into a cavern that has 6 creatures on me at any given time. I finally abandoned that one. Last night all I wanted was some casual-with-mild-peril cave exploration, and it was just baddie after baddie. I can't enjoy my cave exploration like that, so I had to set it to peaceful.

Anyone else having this problem? I used to like the occasional monster in the caverns, but this is insane.


#242

drifter

drifter

Yeah, I took a break from building to do some adventuring, so I switched to normal, and repeatedly got gang swarmed. Notch said he was going to make the game more difficult, although I thought it was coming in the Halloween update.


#243

GasBandit

GasBandit

Only once, but it involved finding a dungeon/monster spawner block.


#244

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

I want creatures that are smarter at invading your fortifications so you have to come up with clever designs to stay safe. Right now you can build a cruddy 2 block high dirt wall and be physically safe from mobs.


#245

GasBandit

GasBandit

I want creatures that are smarter at invading your fortifications so you have to come up with clever designs to stay safe. Right now you can build a cruddy 2 block high dirt wall and be physically safe from mobs.

On the surface maybe. Next update makes light less and less effective at preventing spawns the deeper you go...


#246

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Yeah, but that just means more zombies/spiders/creepers/skeletons...

Some new enemies would be cool.

I mean... what good is a fortress with no enemies to fight? :D


#247

figmentPez

figmentPez

Some new enemies would be cool.
There are new enemies coming with the Halloween update.

I still haven't seen any slimes in my game yet.


#248

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Cool... can't wait for that update...

I wonder if multiplayer will get some serious patching with that update. I want to be able to fight off zombie hordes with my friends!

Actually... a Minecraft server for the Halforums crew would be a pretty cool idea I think.


#249

PatrThom

PatrThom

Leaving the seams open is not good enough. If you want to be safe, you have to completely enclose a lava tube and not leave the diagonals open. I've had creepers bite me because of this (creepers won't start to hiss unless they get within one square of you, leaving the diagonals open lets them get within one square of you, etc).

Also, I have a relatively tiny (we're talking something like 20x30) outpost which seems to generate so many creepers that it's borderline insane. If I stay in it at night (during the gen phase), it is not unusual to see 4 or 5 creepers bouncing outside my walls in the morning, and that's after the sun has killed off the undead. I go through so many arrows that way...

--Patrick


#250

GasBandit

GasBandit

Cool... can't wait for that update...

I wonder if multiplayer will get some serious patching with that update. I want to be able to fight off zombie hordes with my friends!

Actually... a Minecraft server for the Halforums crew would be a pretty cool idea I think.
It'd take a pretty beefy machine... minecraft isn't into the whole "sharing the cpu" thing. As long as there's less than 5 or 7 people on at once, a regular desktop might be ok though.


#251

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

What kind of machine would you need? I'm assuming the best CPU you can afford type of thing? GPU wouldn't really be an issue with a dedicated server would it? What kind of bandwidth would a game like this use?

I'm kind of curious as I want to set up my own server for my buddies at some point.


#252

GasBandit

GasBandit

What kind of machine would you need? I'm assuming the best CPU you can afford type of thing? GPU wouldn't really be an issue with a dedicated server would it? What kind of bandwidth would a game like this use?

I'm kind of curious as I want to set up my own server for my buddies at some point.
A strong dual core at the minimum. I have a kentsfield quad core and even it has trouble keeping up sometimes. It mostly becomes an issue when you go exploring new territory for the first time.

As for bandwidth, as long as you've got at least 50 kbytes/sec up, you should be fine for the most part. There will still be glitches from time to time.


#253

Far

Far

Could we not pool some money together and maybe rent one? Don't know how possible that'd be. I was looking at prices for a couple of friends and I and it seems like it'd be about 30-40 US/month, more if we wanted it to have more RAM, which is what minecraft needs to run smootly with multiple players.


#254

figmentPez

figmentPez

Haha! I saw a skeleton riding a spider today! I was out levelling some ground for my next big project, and at dawn I went over to toy with a skeleton, not realizing he had buddies. I heard the slurping hiss of a spider, and realized that it wasn't just part of the group, it was being ridden by one of the skellies!


#255



Jiarn

Watching the Rapture video, I was overwhelmed to the point of shelfing the game for a while. I really do enjoy it every now and then still though.


#256



Rubicon

Never leave base, with a friggin compass..

So my mansion is coming along. I got the roof complete and set a bunch of fires inside and the entire indoor perimeter is set with torches. Ain't nothing spawning inside.

I go tree hunting. I need more massive amounts of wood to create the second and third levels inside, stairs, etc. No problem, I aim in a straight line and just start lumberjacking my way across the map. Well night hit, and I put up a tiny stone structure to weather the night. Daylight comes.. and I'm lost.

I've spent the last two days wandering around day, and a little at night at peaceful, looking for my base. I've be fucking lost for two days. And thats with a giant tower as a landmark.

Rule 1, always carry a compass :(


#257

PatrThom

PatrThom

Dig yourself about 40 or so dirt to carry with you. That way you can build yourself a tower under your feet (look down, jump, place dirt, repeat) so you can look around wherever you are. Drop an occasional torch (or build a dirt tower as above*) every so often to blaze your trail.

--Patrick
*How do you get down? Build 2 towers, dig straight down the one you don't want to keep.


#258

strawman

strawman

Never leave base, with a friggin compass..

So my mansion is coming along. I got the roof complete and set a bunch of fires inside and the entire indoor perimeter is set with torches. Ain't nothing spawning inside.

I go tree hunting. I need more massive amounts of wood to create the second and third levels inside, stairs, etc. No problem, I aim in a straight line and just start lumberjacking my way across the map. Well night hit, and I put up a tiny stone structure to weather the night. Daylight comes.. and I'm lost.

I've spent the last two days wandering around day, and a little at night at peaceful, looking for my base. I've be fucking lost for two days. And thats with a giant tower as a landmark.

Rule 1, always carry a compass :(
Start digging. Find the stuff you need to build a compass, and on your way back blaze a trail with torches so you can easily come back to your summer castle.

Still, I'm surprised you can't go in a wide circle and find the trees you cut down in a line, and follow the floating foliage back to camp. After a few days, though, I guess the wood grows back, so it might be too late for that.

Just start a second mine, I say.


#259

figmentPez

figmentPez

Why are you wandering in search of trees? They're so easy to grow.

1. Knock down the leaves left from trees (don't waste tools doing it) and collect the saplings that fall.
2. Find a small patch of mostly level ground, in a safe area.
3. Plant torches and saplings in a checkerboard pattern.
4. Go make some axes or something else while you wait for the first tree to sprout (a day or so, probably)
5. Cut trees as fast as you can. You might want to climb up on top of the leaves and work your way down because they're going to be going up fast and tall.


#260

drifter

drifter

Never leave base, with a friggin compass..

So my mansion is coming along. I got the roof complete and set a bunch of fires inside and the entire indoor perimeter is set with torches. Ain't nothing spawning inside.

I go tree hunting. I need more massive amounts of wood to create the second and third levels inside, stairs, etc. No problem, I aim in a straight line and just start lumberjacking my way across the map. Well night hit, and I put up a tiny stone structure to weather the night. Daylight comes.. and I'm lost.

I've spent the last two days wandering around day, and a little at night at peaceful, looking for my base. I've be fucking lost for two days. And thats with a giant tower as a landmark.

Rule 1, always carry a compass :(
Start digging. Find the stuff you need to build a compass, and on your way back blaze a trail with torches so you can easily come back to your summer castle.

Still, I'm surprised you can't go in a wide circle and find the trees you cut down in a line, and follow the floating foliage back to camp. After a few days, though, I guess the wood grows back, so it might be too late for that.

Just start a second mine, I say.[/QUOTE]

Just download Cartograph and generate a map, I say. I got lost without a compass and figured I'd just wander around 'til I saw a familiar landmark (I had been following the coastline, so I didn't think it would be too hard). After a while I got fed up and used Cartograph to see where the hell I was. Turns out I got turned around somewhere and was going in the exact opposite direction I needed to, and had effectively doubled the size of my world.


#261

GasBandit

GasBandit

There's also a reason the first thing I do when finding a new site is build a road, if not an elevated minecart track.


#262

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Hey GasBandit, I'm thinking of setting up a multiplayer server just for myself and one other friend (maybe two). Do I have to run a dedicated server or can I play on the machine that is hosting the game as well?

Will an Intel Core 2 Quad 9300 be enough horsepower to run such a thing?


#263

GasBandit

GasBandit

Hey GasBandit, I'm thinking of setting up a multiplayer server just for myself and one other friend (maybe two). Do I have to run a dedicated server or can I play on the machine that is hosting the game as well?

Will an Intel Core 2 Quad 9300 be enough horsepower to run such a thing?
You can play on the same machine. And the C2Q 9300 is a "Yorkfield" processor (one up the chain from my "Kentsfield") so I think you should be fine.


#264

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Awesome... I can't wait for multiplayer survival mode to come out... thanks Gas.

And if you guys haven't already seen this:

Minecraft Halloween Update preview: meet the Ghasts | PC Gamer

Check out the new hell dimension, the ghasts and some new blocks. Looks like good stuff.


#265

figmentPez

figmentPez

The materials you choose to make a project out of really make a difference in completion time. Building out of cobblestone? Boom, done. Building out of obsidian and cloth? Grab a Snickers, it's going to be a while.

My current project requires:
282 Obsidian
280 Cloth
104 Half Blocks
2 Gold Ore
1 Gold Block
1 Diamond Block
2 Iron Ore
2 Iron Blocks
2 Brick Blocks
2 Clay Blocks
2 Glass
2 Wood Blocks
8 Smooth Stone
8 Dirt or Wood Plank (I haven't decided)
8 Restone Torches
4 Bookcases
2 Forges
2 Chests
2 Crafting Tables
A tree
A cactus
8 Flowers (or possibly 8 torches)

No, I'm not saying what it is until I finish, but it's a lot more work than I thought it would be.


#266

Gusto

Gusto

Fig, I wish I could rep you again for using an ancient Snickers catchphrase.


#267

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

I made a story-based Minecraft blog if any of you are interested. Thread here: http://www.halforums.com/forum/t15411/#post446541


#268

GasBandit

GasBandit

The materials you choose to make a project out of really make a difference in completion time. Building out of cobblestone? Boom, done. Building out of obsidian and cloth? Grab a Snickers, it's going to be a while.

My current project requires:
282 Obsidian
Well THERE'S your problem. That stuff takes FOREVER to dig up, and not all that easy to find in that kind of amount, even if you go dumping water on every lava pool you find.


#269

figmentPez

figmentPez

Well THERE'S your problem. That stuff takes FOREVER to dig up, and not all that easy to find in that kind of amount, even if you go dumping water on every lava pool you find.
I'm doing a cast-in-place method. I ran a minecart track from my mining basecamp to the nearest pool of lava, and I'm transferring six buckets of lava at a time to the project site. I'm not sure it's actually faster than mining the obsidian, but I enjoy it more and it doesn't take a diamond pick to do it. I could cut the time down by making more buckets, but I can't bring myself to spend the iron.

As for quantity, that is really not a problem. There are huge lava pits in the caves I've found. Not only wide, but deep as well. In addition to the one I'm emptying bucket by bucket, I'd also found one at the bottom of a natural waterfall. I got roughly 100 obsidian out of that one before I started running into trouble with fresh lava coming in from above the current water level. I started digging around try and figure out the limits of the pool, and I gave up after realizing it extended into a whole new cavern system. With enough time, buckets and diamond picks, I could probably rebuild my entire tower out of obsidian.


#270

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Yeah, once you go deep enough, you can find huge pools of lava source blocks just waiting to be nabbed. Casting the lava in place actually makes a lot more sense too, if your not swimming in diamonds.


#271

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Yeah, once you go deep enough, you can find huge pools of lava source blocks just waiting to be nabbed. Casting the lava in place actually makes a lot more sense too, if your not swimming in diamonds.
^That would be the greatest swimming pool EVER.


#272

figmentPez

figmentPez

Project complete! As might have been guessed from my materials list, I made a chessboard.


I didn't want to build big enough to actually construct pieces out of obsidian and sheep fluff... er, cloth blocks (I love the sound it makes when you place it) so I made the pieces out of various blocks. I really like how the stone side turned out, not so much the wood side.


Wood


Stone


Oh, and that's the default texture set. I've actually been using the Painterly pack of textures recently:


Painterly Aerial View


Painterly Stone


Painterly Wood

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Animal Cannon!


#273

drifter

drifter

I built a mobgrinder 'cause I need lots of TNT. It probably wasn't worth the effort (I really should just have used MineEdit or something), but it's pretty cool to see two full stacks of gunpowder accumulate in about 6 minutes. After about 15 minutes I had accumulated about 700 drops. If anyone is interested, plans are here.


#274

figmentPez

figmentPez

Awesome video.



I don't care how much external editing it took to create that, it's still beautiful.

53MB world, my world is just over 5MB. :wtf:


EDIT: Embeded the video, but you should still view it higher res.

Also, creeper art:


Source




#275

drifter

drifter

I'm surprised that's only 53MB. Would have expected it to be much bigger.


#276

Rob King

Rob King

Very seriously considered not getting this game, seeing as I'm probably not going to be able to play it much this winter. But for the sake of $15 ...

I am so glad I got it. It doesn't run very well on my MacBook. Serious frame rate issues, but I'm having a great time building my world. I'm still in my first area. I dug a shaft to the bottom of the map, and then branched tunnels off the shaft in all four directions every twenty blocks down. I haven't even mined half of the area's potential yet.

In order to make wood gathering easier, I flattened the hill above my home and used it to plant a grove. Every so many days I burn away the leaves and chop whatever wood remains. I've begun to build a fortress wall around my hill, more for want of something to do with all of my stone that I was hauling out of my shaft than anything else. I'll post some screens later on.

Seriously. What an amazingly fun game.


#277

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

A guided tour of my home sweet home:


#278

figmentPez

figmentPez

ARGH! Doors go on the outside Cheesy! Do you want skeletons firing arrows at you through your door? Also, put in some damn stairs you bunny-hopping newb!

Seriously, though, that is some awesome work, very impressive. I really love the fountain in the main foyer. It looks great.

A few questions:
1. What did you use to record that?
2. What fuel did you use for smelting all that smooth stone?
3. When are you going to build a minecart system to get around that giant complex faster?


#279

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

I like the doors that way, they trap the skeletons in the little cubby they make. Besides, with how much lighting I have on my plateau, I hardly ever worry about skeletons at my door anymore. And bunny-hopping is good for you, works your legs! :tongue: (Actually, I left them like that inside the castle because at the moment you can't make smooth-looking stairs, only cobblestone and wood ones.)

As for your questions:

1. I downloaded HyperCam as it was free. Downside is that the in-game sound it recorded was very off, so I'll have to play around with it to try and fix it for next time. Edited the video in Adobe Premiere afterwards.

2. At first, a shitload of wood! Once I had mined plenty of coal for both torches and smelting, I switched to that since one coal can smelt 8 blocks of whatever you're working on.

3. Right now I'm going to hold off on making a minecart system until I have a better idea of how I want to set it up. Didn't really have those in mind when I first started out, but once my plateaus become more developed, I'll definitely be putting them in to get around more quickly.


#280

tegid

tegid

You can make smooth looking stairs with stone half blocks! (3 stone blocks one beside the other)
But they take twice as much space horizontally, I think.


#281

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

But they take twice as much space horizontally, I think.
Yep, that they do...

Drifter, that mobgrinder is spectacular... I totally want to make one myself.


#282

GasBandit

GasBandit

Project complete! As might have been guessed from my materials list, I made a chessboard.

My queen is a Cactus. Your argument is invalid.


#283

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

You can make smooth looking stairs with stone half blocks! (3 stone blocks one beside the other)
But they take twice as much space horizontally, I think.
Yeah, I used them on the entrance to my castle, but they would've gone way too far out to do it on the inside. They would have left me with no room to put in the fountain because of how far the stairs would have gone out.


#284



Rubicon

I'm surprised that's only 53MB. Would have expected it to be much bigger.
Agreed. My world is vastly unexplored compared to his and mine is already up to 22MB, and thats just with a few buildings and tunnels.. this guy has explored like huge swaths of his world and laid minetrack, etc.


#285

Baerdog

Baerdog

Project complete! As might have been guessed from my materials list, I made a chessboard.

My queen is a Cactus. Your argument is invalid.[/QUOTE]
I hear she can be a bit prickly.


#286

figmentPez

figmentPez

My queen is a Cactus. Your argument is invalid.
Look at yourself, now look back at me. My king is now diamonds.

I'm on a pig.


#287

Far

Far

Update of my world, big circle in the bottom right corner is my current project. That random wall near the bottom was me trying out the no materials building method posted here earlier, not sure what I'll eventually do with it, if anything. I'll have to get a video up sometime, easier to show the progress I've made.



#288

tegid

tegid

I'm surprised that's only 53MB. Would have expected it to be much bigger.
Agreed. My world is vastly unexplored compared to his and mine is already up to 22MB, and thats just with a few buildings and tunnels.. this guy has explored like huge swaths of his world and laid minetrack, etc.[/QUOTE]

I thought the chunks that make up the world span it all vertically (from top of the sky to adminium at the bottom) even if you don't explore the caves. It that were true, you'd make your world larger only by exploring it horizontally.


#289

strawman

strawman

Each chunk is 16x16 horizontally and 128 vertically. So yes, digging straight down does not increase the size of your world.


#290

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Each chunk is 16x16 horizontally and 128 vertically. So yes, digging straight down does not increase the size of your world.
Not to mention that eventually, you hit bedrock and can't dig any further, so it wouldn't work anyway.


#291

drifter

drifter

Well, my world got fucked during a power outage. The level data is still there, but something isn't right. As of right now, I can load the world, but at the startup screen it shows a world size of 0.0MB, along with having a new spawn point. I tried the Minecraft forums, but the search function isn't working. Anybody have any ideas? :(


#292

strawman

strawman

I'm working on this server again. If someone sets up a halforums server, then I'll play there...


#293

GasBandit

GasBandit

Well, my world got fucked during a power outage. The level data is still there, but something isn't right. As of right now, I can load the world, but at the startup screen it shows a world size of 0.0MB, along with having a new spawn point. I tried the Minecraft forums, but the search function isn't working. Anybody have any ideas? :(
I'm assuming since you're asking this question you haven't been making manual backups of your saves like I do... but do you have any automatic backups? Vista/7 is big on automatic backups, and since the world save data is stored in %appdata% maybe it gets backed up with automatic backup or perhaps even system restore...


#294

drifter

drifter

Nah, I usually manually backup important stuff (of which game data isn't something I usually consider), and never set up any automated backups. Ah well, the world mostly works fine, it's just irritating.


#295

strawman

strawman

Nah, I usually manually backup important stuff (of which game data isn't something I usually consider), and never set up any automated backups. Ah well, the world mostly works fine, it's just irritating.
Speaking of minecraft, I saw your sign and chest in my mine yesterday. Thanks for visiting! I assume the stuff you left was for me, or are you setting up shop in that server as well?

I recently built a water garden a little ways off from my place, and extended the skyway to the shore (I wanted sand for glass) and a few other mines I'm starting.

Now I want to built a lava garden...


#296

drifter

drifter

I was wondering when you would find that :)
Just a little gift for you. I considered building on that server, but I'm far too invested in my own world.

Anyway, downloaded a hex editor and looked into the old .dat files, which are completely empty of information, although the session.lock seems okay. Anyone know if there's a way I can force the .dat files to update using level data?


#297

figmentPez

figmentPez

"Guess what.. Furnaces should now face the opposite direction the player is facing when you plant them."
Twitter
"And so do stairs now. They will never auto-turn ever again!"
Twitter

That's great for furnaces, but I'm not sure that's a perfect solution for stairs. Still, better than stairs that rotate after you've placed them.


#298

figmentPez

figmentPez

PC Gamer has some preview footage of building a gate and traveling to "the slip" (I prefer "the nether")

Videos contain *SPOILERS* if you care about that type of thing.


Building the gate



Exploring the other side

So, newly revealed perils of the other realm. Mud that slows you down and zombie pigmen (which aren't shown in their final skin) who are peaceful until attacked.

Looks like it's a very dangerous place, and ghasts hit like lava to the face. I'm curious about the properties of the weird gold cobblestone.


#299

figmentPez

figmentPez

I'm scared.


X193 X's Adventures in Minecraft Episode 46 "From the Nether's Heart Outward"

Damn, the Nether is a freaky and dangerous place.


#300

PatrThom

PatrThom

You ain't kidding. My main nexus is built at bedrock level. My first trip back to it was fraught with much trepidation.

Fortunately I appear to have used sufficient torches, though. It was pest-free when I arrived. Whew!

--Patrick


#301

figmentPez

figmentPez

There's a bug where your inventory may not drop when you die. So, if you don't want to lose your stuff, play on peaceful until that's fixed.

---------- Post added at 12:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:54 AM ----------

Also, armor may or may not work.


#302

PatrThom

PatrThom

Yup. THAT one, I discovered. And the way in which I discovered it was another indication of the changes.

One of my outposts (Yes, I know I'm late getting my pics up. I had a hard drive failure and it took me a few days to rebuild my array. Deal with it.) is in an area that spawns critters like mad. We're talkin' something like half a dozen creepers every night, a dozen or so skeletons and zombies, and another half dozen or so spiders (and this is on Easy!). I apparently got some of them worked up by jumping around behind my big glass wall and this got a skeleton to fire a few arrows at my head as it popped up over the wall. Well, some of these stray rounds hit a spider, which then started hitting back on the skeleton. A nearby creeper got in on the action and exploded, blowing a hole in my wall and staircase and letting the mobs in.

I died.

It took me a bit to clean up the mess, but I patched up the hole and now vowed to be a little more careful about who's next to whom when I start pissing off the mobs.

--Patrick


#303

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Notch really didn't want people to build shelters in the Nether, considering those flying eyeball things and their explosive shots. It's still possible to build safe tunnels in the Nether, but it's clearly going to take some effort.

- You need to build portals both at your starting place and your destination, otherwise you don't know where to build and stop.
- You then need figure out just how much difference is between each opening (That's actual block distance divided by 16)

Then you have two options:

- Build tunnels under the ground to the location and meet up, risking tunnels full of zombies.
- Build it above ground and risk it getting blown up by the squids. This is dangerous, but once it's done, the Squids will leave you alone.

That being said, it seems like it's the only viable way to do travel right now, seeing as how mine carts don't work in SMP. I wonder if Notch made this explicitly because he doesn't know how to get mine carts working online?


#304

strawman

strawman

Yup. THAT one, I discovered. And the way in which I discovered it was another indication of the changes.

One of my outposts (Yes, I know I'm late getting my pics up. I had a hard drive failure and it took me a few days to rebuild my array. Deal with it.) is in an area that spawns critters like mad. We're talkin' something like half a dozen creepers every night, a dozen or so skeletons and zombies, and another half dozen or so spiders (and this is on Easy!). I apparently got some of them worked up by jumping around behind my big glass wall and this got a skeleton to fire a few arrows at my head as it popped up over the wall. Well, some of these stray rounds hit a spider, which then started hitting back on the skeleton. A nearby creeper got in on the action and exploded, blowing a hole in my wall and staircase and letting the mobs in.

I died.

It took me a bit to clean up the mess, but I patched up the hole and now vowed to be a little more careful about who's next to whom when I start pissing off the mobs.

--Patrick
You may be near the mythical block 0,0 where mobs are created at a greater rate than elsewhere. People found this out when they started building mob grinders. Try building a river of lava between you and them.


#305

figmentPez

figmentPez

That being said, it seems like it's the only viable way to do travel right now, seeing as how mine carts don't work in SMP. I wonder if Notch made this explicitly because he doesn't know how to get mine carts working online?
The Nether doesn't work in multiplayer, either.


#306

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

That being said, it seems like it's the only viable way to do travel right now, seeing as how mine carts don't work in SMP. I wonder if Notch made this explicitly because he doesn't know how to get mine carts working online?
The Nether doesn't work in multiplayer, either.[/QUOTE]

Oh. Then... why did he add this content instead of fixing the functionality?


#307

PatrThom

PatrThom

You may be near the mythical block 0,0 where mobs are created at a greater rate than elsewhere. People found this out when they started building mob grinders. Try building a river of lava between you and them.
It was actually one of the first things that came to mind when morning first revealed the rabble outside my gate..."Holy! I must be near chunk 0!" Building a river of lava really wouldn't work with what I have planned for that area, though. I was more upset about losing all my ladders, fences, and my steel sword I'd used all of half a dozen times. Oh, and my compass.

--Patrick


#308

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

Maybe that's the reason my base is always surrounded by lots of mobs? I didn't know about this chunk 0 business!


#309

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Are you guys talking about this http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mob_Spawner ?


#310

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

I'm liking the greener grass and the prettier sunrises/sunsets after the patch. Now I just need to start finding some damned obsidian or some more lava to make my own, grrrr.


#311

drifter

drifter

No, they're talking about this.
Mob Spawning Science *Now with Black Magic!* - Minecraft Forums
Long story short, the game uses an algorithm to figure out where to spawn monsters. The first area it checks, and thus the area where monsters spawn most, is called chunk 0 (or block 0,0)


#312

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Crap! I forgot to change my game to "Peaceful" before going to the bottom of the world and I paid the price for it. Ended up getting gang raped in a corner by three creepers and lost all of my stuff. Promptly changed my difficulty after that. Cheesy done uses his brain good! :p


#313

drifter

drifter

By the way, it appears that the chunk 0 thing got patched and is no longer applicable.


#314

figmentPez

figmentPez

I wonder if slime spawns got fixed as well.


#315

GasBandit

GasBandit

By the way, it appears that the chunk 0 thing got patched and is no longer applicable.
That's odd. I started a new SSP world this weekend just to test biomes after the patch, and chunk 0 gave me 4 creepers, 5 zombies, 3 skeletons, 4 spiders AND a skeleton RIDING a spider on my FIRST NIGHT. And that was just the stuff that wandered toward my house, I'm sure there was more that headed the other way.

Maybe it got patched out later in one of his other "oops, I broke it" patches.

Like many others, however, single-player-only features now don't interest me. For me, if it's not in SMP, it may as well not be in the game. This patch fixed doors and redstone circuitry in SMP, which is good I guess... but we got official word that mine carts, health and other critical components won't work until beta. Which disgruntles me.

Yeah yeah, I know "alpha game" blah blah blah. I'd have more patience if maybe Notch was a little more vague with his twitter updates, so that I'd NOT know he didn't actually sit down to do any coding last month until late last week. And most of that was spent on this ridiculous nether nonsense, and actual bug fixes and whatnot were done in a rush at the last minute on the 29th/30th.


#316

GasBandit

GasBandit

Some pictures from this weekend... it's getting so that the png for the overhead map is as many MB as the actual level, maybe I should start hosting the world zipped up and you guys can just download it and have a look for yourself :p

Meantime.. pictures. Using spoiler tags cause they're ginormous.

Here's a picture of the outside of the pretty much finished castle.. outer wall is 6m high at the shortest point, inner wall starts at 10m and goes up from there. The pine trees in the background were created by a specialized evergreen tree generator called "map deleter and tree generator." I was using it to delete unused sections of my map so that the new biomes would start affecting the map closer to home.

Now, you might notice the snow is starting to go away - the new patch has removed the "snow world" dynamic apparently. Most of my snow world now is not regrowing snow, so as I clear it it doesn't come back most often.

Here's an internal shot of the great hall within my castle. It's ceiling is two stories high, and the balcony overlooking it from the second floor has guest rooms, I think I've been over all this before with you guys.

Outside the castle we've got quite the little community going.

Looking out at the town from on the castle outer wall, you can barely see the lava moat below, the wide path on the left leads up to the church, and on the right in the background you can see the Inn and behind that...

The ship - I had suggested the "Esprit" for the name for her, but the little woman insisted on the "S.S. FRIGGIN HUGE."

The view of the Inn and the castle from the bowsprit of the ship-

The deck of the SS FRIGGIN HUGE from the corner of the sterncastle -

aaaand on the opposite shore of the harbor, I did something a little "halloweeny."


#317

figmentPez

figmentPez

That's a lot of work GasBandit. Some really nice stuff, though.


#318

GasBandit

GasBandit

That's a lot of work GasBandit. Some really nice stuff, though.
It's a lot more fun with two people cooperating. Everything goes so much faster, and the shared experience blah blah warm fuzzies blah blah accomplishment blah hippie bullcrap you know how it goes.


#319

figmentPez

figmentPez

It's a lot more fun with two people cooperating. Everything goes so much faster, and the shared experience blah blah warm fuzzies blah blah accomplishment blah hippie bullcrap you know how it goes.
I'd love to see what the whole of Halforums could accomplish.


Anyway, anyone checked their "farm" yet? Someone on the Penny Arcade forums was saying that crops won't grow in some biomes now, so existing farms may not grow new wheat anymore.


#320

drifter

drifter

Damn, and I thought I put a lot of work into my world. Even with two people, that's kinda terrifying. How about a picture of the throne room?

Also, my farm seems to be working fine, but my farm is also ensconced within a mountain.


#321

figmentPez

figmentPez

Ghasts invade a SMP server:


Posted mainly to show just how huge ghasts are. They look so small, since they're usually flying pretty high, but right next to players, they're giant.


#322

GasBandit

GasBandit

Cartograph of my world: here


#323

GasBandit

GasBandit

Noaxark of the IRC channel has agreed to let us all use his server (Which I also dabble on), if we want. Just try to keep the address to halforumites please - would like to not attract griefers. Address is in the image in the spoiler.

no

Just remember that on a multiplayer server, the blocks right around the spawn point are protected and will revert immediately if changed... you'll need to wander to the south a bit to get "into town" so to speak.

his latest cartograph here


#324

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

Fuking Creepers appearing behind corners in my fucking mines :mad:


#325

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Cartograph of my world: here
why you map is "broken"?


#326

GasBandit

GasBandit

Cartograph of my world: here
why you map is "broken"?[/QUOTE]

Because, as I noted in my post with all the spoilered pictures, I used "Map Deleter and Pine Tree Generator" to delete a lot of my undeveloped chunks so that the new biome code would regenerate them without me having to walk 90 miles to see it. Apparently it's a little glitchy.


#327

figmentPez

figmentPez

Ahahahahahaha! The fishing rod is awesome! So much fun.

Fishing is boring.

Fishing for mobs, though...


Yes, that's a cow on top of a tree.

He started at the base of my tower, that tree is part of my rooftop garden. I'm not sure where the sheep ended up, that one flew so high I lost track of him. Apparently my home is just at the limit of the fishing rod's range. It can't cast very far out, but it can go all the way down to the ground. If a lucky strike his a mob, reeling in the fishing line sends them flying up into the air.

:D

For more practical fishing, that doesn't take much water at all. I can fish in the little stream I made as part of my rooftop garden. I actually had more luck there than in the ocean.


On another note, I have set my world to peaceful. I had a skeleton in my rumpus room knocking my paintings off the wall, getting grave dust all over my carpeting. This will not stand! To quote Notch "....from playtesting, I agree that the monster spawning brightness torch thing stuff now totally sucks"


#328

figmentPez

figmentPez

Oh, almost forgot. It's easier to take screenshots now. Hold down F1 to remove the HUD, then hit F2 to save a screenshot.


#329

GasBandit

GasBandit

That'll come in handy. I was getting tired of printscreening and pasting into paint.


#330



Rubicon

I wish the game didn't take a beast of a machine to run.. in SMP, it crawls to a halt of 1-3 FPS. Thats with fast graphics selected, draw distance as "tiny" etc. If I stand in one place for a minute, everything loads ok and I can get lik 60+ FPS.. but as soon as I move any direction just a few squares it drops back to 1-3 FPS as new chunks load ;\ I love Notch's work but jesus.. for such a simplistic game (graphically) you'd think something ancient could run it smoothly. I can nail out a solid 30+ fps in mmos like WoW but this? :( Back to single player for me..


#331

GasBandit

GasBandit

I wish the game didn't take a beast of a machine to run.. in SMP, it crawls to a halt of 1-3 FPS. Thats with fast graphics selected, draw distance as "tiny" etc. If I stand in one place for a minute, everything loads ok and I can get lik 60+ FPS.. but as soon as I move any direction just a few squares it drops back to 1-3 FPS as new chunks load ;\ I love Notch's work but jesus.. for such a simplistic game (graphically) you'd think something ancient could run it smoothly. I can nail out a solid 30+ fps in mmos like WoW but this? :( Back to single player for me..
That's because WoW isn't generating the world on the fly. That "move any direction a few squares" means it's having to generate those new cubic meters you're coming into visual range of. It's not the graphics card, it's your processor and ram that are slowing you down.

That, and WoW was actually written in a native executable. Minecraft is a glorified Java app, which means your computer is having to emulate a java virtual machine to play it. Like all things Java, it is inherently bloated, slow and clunky. But that's life in modern computing, unfortunately.

Oh, also I found that for some reason, if you're running the server on the same machine that is running VOIP software, it makes minecraft_server even more laggy and such, undoing what you just did 3 seconds later, then re-doing it 10 seconds later. So, no skyping on your minecraft server.


#332

strawman

strawman

I wish the game didn't take a beast of a machine to run.. in SMP, it crawls to a halt of 1-3 FPS. Thats with fast graphics selected, draw distance as "tiny" etc. If I stand in one place for a minute, everything loads ok and I can get lik 60+ FPS.. but as soon as I move any direction just a few squares it drops back to 1-3 FPS as new chunks load ;\ I love Notch's work but jesus.. for such a simplistic game (graphically) you'd think something ancient could run it smoothly. I can nail out a solid 30+ fps in mmos like WoW but this? :( Back to single player for me..
That's because WoW isn't generating the world on the fly. That "move any direction a few squares" means it's having to generate those new cubic meters you're coming into visual range of. It's not the graphics card, it's your processor and ram that are slowing you down.

That, and WoW was actually written in a native executable. Minecraft is a glorified Java app, which means your computer is having to emulate a java virtual machine to play it. Like all things Java, it is inherently bloated, slow and clunky. But that's life in modern computing, unfortunately.

Oh, also I found that for some reason, if you're running the server on the same machine that is running VOIP software, it makes minecraft_server even more laggy and such, undoing what you just did 3 seconds later, then re-doing it 10 seconds later. So, no skyping on your minecraft server.[/QUOTE]

Yes, it would be nice if "generating terrain" could be done in the background when it's not needed, rather than waiting until it is needed. Just make sure the world is a few percent bigger than the user has explored...


#333

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

It would be really nice if Notch would code this thing properly and not be using Java... like GasBandit said... it's horribly inefficient.


#334

GasBandit

GasBandit

It would be really nice if Notch would code this thing properly and not be using Java... like GasBandit said... it's horribly inefficient.
Notch is horrified at the prospect of even touching assembly language.

Notch said:
like checking registry and stack dumps? nah, I'll stick to my Java..


#335

Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Notch said:
like checking registry and stack dumps? nah, I'll stick to my Java..
*facepalm*

I think I'd settle for a compromise like C# or something... lol.


#336

PatrThom

PatrThom

Heh. I just read that same tweet (this is more impressive when you realize I am only following one person in the year I've subscribed...and it isn't Notch).

--Patrick


#337

strawman

strawman

It would be really nice if Notch would code this thing properly and not be using Java... like GasBandit said... it's horribly inefficient.
You guys might be surprised at how efficient java is these days. It's not perfect, and a good java programmer can do better than a bad one if they understand how the JVM works, but it's not the snail it used to be considered.

The reality is that the engine has to use various optimizations to manage billions of vector points per second. It's not like a regular game where a complex terrain includes thousands of vectors and a dozen textures and bump maps. It can't simply feed all the blocks to the graphics card, because the graphics card would then need to render billions of triangles per second just to keep up. He's using java to cull the vectors prior to showing them, and he's obviously using some pretty inefficient algorithms.

However, the game would not be as popular as it is if he didn't have the mac and linux userbase, so doing C or assembly is not going to happen anytime soon.

Creating a block world type rendering engine on the iPhone turns out to be much harder than I anticipated, and I'm only pumping 30 million triangles per second for a block world that's only 128x128x32. It's actually quite an interesting problem...

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But the reality is that notch is leaving a very large opening for another developer (likely a large company) to swoop in with a significantly better performing game and eat his lunch. He's got a lot of work into the game already, so there's actually a relatively high bar (I love all the people saying it could be coded in a week) but if he doesn't provide significantly compelling content, he's not going to last more than 2 years.


#338

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

How do I make freaking obsidian instead of cobblestone?? I kept doing obsidian by accident when I didn't need it and now that I'm curious about this Nether world thing I don't seem to be able to make any!!


#339

strawman

strawman

How do I make freaking obsidian instead of cobblestone?? I kept doing obsidian by accident when I didn't need it and now that I'm curious about this Nether world thing I don't seem to be able to make any!!
Obsidian is created when flowing water hits a lava spring; when a water spring and a lava spring collide it creates cobblestone.

A basic Obsidian farm is composed of a trough seven blocks long into which seven blocks of Lava are poured using the Bucket. A water block is then placed on top of one end of the trough so that it flows onto and converts the Lava into Obsidian.
From Obsidian - Minepedia - The Minecraft Wiki!

So it sounds like you convert lava springs into obsidian by flowing water over the lava springs. Don't let the water spring itself touch the lava, and don't let the flowing lava touch the spring or flowing water.

I haven't done it though, so this is just what I understand to work.


#340

figmentPez

figmentPez

FLP has mostly accurate* info. If you're getting cobblestone, your water is hitting flowing lava, not the lava source block. Don't try to place the water directly on top of the lava source, though. You can't place blocks on top of liquids, and you might accidentally replace the lava with the water (destroying the lava). Also, be aware that you need to be careful when dumping your lava bucket. (Never have your lava bucket out and ready when trying to use a door, chest, minecart, etc.) Not only can misplaced lava burn you, but if you accidentally dump a lava bucket in the same spot as an existing lava source block, you'll just lose the lava.

*if a water spring and a lava spring are right next to each other, you'll end up with obsidian. Only if the lava has space to flow will cobblestone result instead.


#341

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

But I put lava from my bucket in a trench and the water source block over the lava soruce block... and all I got was cobblestone. What amb I doing wrong?


#342

figmentPez

figmentPez

But I put lava from my bucket in a trench and the water source block over the lava soruce block... and all I got was cobblestone. What amb I doing wrong?
Screenshot? (Also, see my edited post)


#343

strawman

strawman

But I put lava from my bucket in a trench and the water source block over the lava soruce block... and all I got was cobblestone. What amb I doing wrong?
Don't put the water source block over the lava source block. Put the water source block at least one block away so the water flowing away from the water source flows over the lava source block. The source blocks should never touch.

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Try this (looking down from the sky):

Make a trench in the ground 7 long (G = dirt or something that can hold lava):
GGGGGGGGGG
G_______GG
GGGGGGGGGG

Put lava source blocks in all 7 of the holes:
GGGGGGGGGG
GLLLLLLLGG
GGGGGGGGGG

Now put a water source block on the G above that is bolded and italicized. The water source will not itself touch the lava source blocks, but it will flow water over them.


#344

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

I'll try that!


#345

figmentPez

figmentPez

This is the method I used when making my chessboard



3x3(x1)* hole in the ground. 1 Water source block. Then place lava into the flowing water. It will instantly turn to obsidian.

(illustration made with Minedraft)

*Edit: Size chosen because that was how big I wanted my chessboard squares. It could be a lot of different sizes and shapes.


#346

Gusto

Gusto

I just started playing this today.

So far I've dog a hole in the side of a low cliff, blocked it in with stone, dug further back and down into the cliffside and discovered a series of caves where I proceeded to get my ass kicked.

I think I'll work on adventuring more outside, possibly seeing if I can scale any higher cliffs on which to build a new base.

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Any tips for beginners would be helpful. I'm poking around the wiki a bit so I've got a bit of knowledge now.


#347

GasBandit

GasBandit

Any tips for beginners would be helpful. I'm poking around the wiki a bit so I've got a bit of knowledge now.
Since you've built with stone, I assume you've built a stone pickaxe already. FIND some COAL. It can usually be found in the sides of cliffs on the surface fairly commonly. Once you can make torches with that coal and some sticks, you can really start exploring underground. A large part of your early game will be the quest for coal... then the quest for iron. But you'll be using stone tools for most things for the rest of the game, just reserving iron tools for digging out diamond, redstone and obsidian.


#348

figmentPez

figmentPez

just reserving iron tools for digging out diamond, redstone and obsidian.
I think you mean diamond, redstone and gold. Obsidian needs a diamond pick to mine.

(Obligatory "will Notch ever make obsidian tools?" Personally I vote for making obsidian tools with iron handles instead of wood, making them as fast as iron, but as durable as diamond.)


#349

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

You can mine obsidian without a diamond pick, it just takes 50 seconds instead of 15, right?


#350

drifter

drifter

Without a diamond pickaxe, obsidian will break, but it won't drop a block.


#351

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Any tips for beginners would be helpful. I'm poking around the wiki a bit so I've got a bit of knowledge now.


Live and learn that series. It's how I got into Minecraft in the beginning.


#352

Gusto

Gusto

Alright I started a new map, and have been playing on peaceful mode until NOW.

I built myself a wooden shack on top of the first island in my archipelago, and proceeded to basically excavate most of that hill down to sea level.

Then I started exploring some of the other smaller islands and discovered a mine system wit a lava pool underneath (!!!). I wanna explore under here a lot more so I bult stone bridges from between the three islands and used tat as a support to build a two-story fort.

Now I think I'm ready to play for realz, despite my fear. :O



#353

PatrThom

PatrThom

I, too, walked in X's footsteps in order to learn what lay ahead. Single best combined source of play tips and entertainment. Mostly what I learned is that I need to get more used to using hotkeys.

And anyone who does not rejoice with him when he finally retrieves the X-bench probably also thinks that video games can't possibly be Art.

--Patrick


#354



Rubicon

I always preferred Seananners Lets Play Minecraft series of videos compared to X's


#355

Far

Far

So I'm running a server for a couple friends and I. Though I would need to clear it with them first as they help foot the bill for it, I was wondering how many of you would be willing to play there, and possibly throw cash in to help with the cost of running it, if we used it as a Halforums house. It's only a six slot server at this point and we only fill two of those as it stands now, but we could expand it to accomodate more if there is enough interest.

It's currently approx. $30/6 months for the six slots and seems to go up $10 for every two slots that are added. The server itself is based out of Seattle, is for Alpha and I'm running Hey0 mod on it at present.

Edited to fix my dumbass mistake.


#356

Gusto

Gusto

Following in X's footsteps, I have created a giant 8x8 skylight in the tallest mountain I was able to find. I've also started a nearby tree farm an built a small nearby station with a bench, furnace and large chest.

So begins my journey to the centre of the earth.


#357

Gusto

Gusto

Wen you take a screenshot with the F1-F2 keys, where does it save the image? I can't even FIND my pictures.


#358

drifter

drifter

Using Win7, it's in C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\screenshots


#359

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

This nether thing is very creepy! I play this game with my little sister, but even the sound of the portal makes her scared...


Also, with my render distance I can't even see the Ghasts!


#360

figmentPez

figmentPez

Using Win7, it's in C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\screenshots
An easy way to find the folder is to hit the windows key and then type %appdata% into the search and hit enter, it will open right up to the Roaming folder. Saves a little big of digging through folders.


I've been expanding my minecart system. I used to have two legs, one from the main floor to my mine, and the other from my main floor up to my rooftop garden. Now I've got an external line going to a new tower to the north, still under construction. When that's finished, it too will have a cart track from sea level to the top. To cut down on the total number of carts I need (and to avoid being stranded on the wrong end if I go somewhere without carting) I started carrying one cart with me to use on all the different tracks. One important lesson I learned from doing this do not destroy/collect a cart while you are riding in it at least not if there is only one block of ground beneath you. If the cart is destroyed while you're in it, your feet will be inside the block the cart track is on. If there isn't anything below that block, you'll fall through. The first time this happened to me, I fell from the top of my tower and died. Thankfully not far from my spawn. Unfortunately I didn't catch on to what the glitch was until later, when I fell through the floor of my mine into an already explored cave.

I also found a dungeon today. Don't know what it's mob spawner makes since I'm playing on peaceful, but there was a record, a saddle, 2 gunpowder, 4 iron bars and some bread in the treasure chests. I'll go back later and check to see what it makes. I don't know if I'm happy or disappointed that creeper spawners don't exist.


#361

David

David

So I'm running a server for a couple friends and I. Though I would need to clear it with them first as they help foot the bill for it, I was wondering how many of you would be willing to play there, and possibly throw cash in to help with the cost of running it, if we used it as a Halforums house. It's only a six slot server at this point and we only fill two of those as it stands now, but we could expand it to accomodate more if there is enough interest.

It's currently approx. $30/month for the six slots and seems to go up $10/month for every two slots that are added. The server itself is based out of Seattle and is for Alpha and I'm running Hey0 mod on it at present.
I might be interested... but $10 for two slots, as in for every two players? I'm not familiar with the typical going rate on game servers, but that seems horribly overpriced, unless I'm misunderstanding.


#362

Far

Far

Hah actually the term is for 6 months at $30. Sorry had to re-read my invoice. So it would actually be about $5/slot every 6 months.

Reason I was confused was it created a subscription on my paypal for $30 every month but wasn't supposed to. That has now been rectified.

Fix'd the post above to reflect the actual prices.


#363

David

David

Ah, that's much different. I'd definitely be interested.


#364

figmentPez

figmentPez

So, what are the differences between single player and multi? I know that minecarts don't work and there's no damage, but is anything else different? How do chests and stuff work? I find mining relaxing, could I load up chests with materials for others to use? I heard that storage minecarts work now, but that only the person who puts stuff in them can get it back out again.


#365

Far

Far

Also if people want to check the server out before commiting that can certainly be arranged. I still need to check with my buddy first though I can't see him objecting to having more people to play with on the server.

So, what are the differences between single player and multi? I know that minecarts don't work and there's no damage, but is anything else different? How do chests and stuff work? I find mining relaxing, could I load up chests with materials for others to use? I heard that storage minecarts work now, but that only the person who puts stuff in them can get it back out again.
Not entirely sure myself as I've only had the server up for about a week or so. I noticed anything my friend put into his chests I couldn't see if I opened them. Though upon thinking back that may have been because he didn't have anythign in them at that time... Further research is required. I'll get back to you.


#366

figmentPez

figmentPez

Did trees start growing larger after biomes got added? I have a tree farm outside my house with scaffolding above it for getting to the upper branches. Trees used to grow so that the top leaves were just under the scaffolding, now they're growing up past it. The tallest trunk reached 13 squares high while I was farming trees today, and that's not counting the leaves. There seem to be more branches as well. It's actually a little disturbing to be suddenly engulfed in leaves while trying to trim down a different tree.

Here's hoping leaves start decaying properly again soon.


#367

Gusto

Gusto

I had a sapling I planted this afternoon grow to like 15 squares tall (just the trunk) in the middle of the night AS I WAS WATCHING IT.

It was unsettling.


#368



Rubicon

Multiplayer, when working properly, will be the same as single player survival. Same gameplay; gather materials, build, explore. Monsters still spawn and theres still a day / night cycle but right now its bugged, you can't take any damage from them. So until thats fixed, its basically Classic with material gathering instead of lego mode.

But I figure once Notch fixes it, it'll be cool.


#369

Far

Far

I would have been able to take things out of my friends chest but he didn't have anything inside of the one I had opened. Also I've cleared it with him and if others want in on the server we'd be more than happy to have you. As I stated above, at present, the server has 6 slots, 2 of which are already occupied. We can expand the number of slots if there is enough interest. The server has a whitelist so no one can get in unless I've put your name on it.

$5 for six months per slot, even if we eventually expand the number of slots we have later that should continue to be the price. I can let a few people on the server to check it out before you commit so you can see if it lags for you or not, though I've personally not had any problems with it.


#370



Rubicon

If my laptop could handle SMP, I'd be all over it but right now, it's just a slideshow for me (even with Tiny distance and Fast graphics). I mainly just play at work, my workstation pc there can handle it much better.


#371

FnordBear

FnordBear

logged on to the multiplayer server GasBandit posted.

My first mp experience...

I grew a tree...among other things.



#372

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

What is up with all the redstone torchs and the cactus?


#373

strawman

strawman

What is up with all the redstone torchs and the cactus?
Redstone torches don't go out. With the new patch, coal torches must be re-lit occasionally.

It may be easier for FnordBear to make redstone torches versus lanterns that don't go out, depending on his resources.


#374

figmentPez

figmentPez

Redstone torches don't go out. With the new patch, coal torches must be re-lit occasionally.
Coal torches stay lit. Notch hasn't changed that yet. It was supposed to be part of the Halloween update, but he couldn't get it working in time.


#375

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Redstone torches don't go out. With the new patch, coal torches must be re-lit occasionally.
Coal torches stay lit. Notch hasn't changed that yet. It was supposed to be part of the Halloween update, but he couldn't get it working in time.[/QUOTE]

Then again, he may just not go through with it. He's already made some comments that he may take out the new Light-Based spawning rules for inside buildings.


#376

figmentPez

figmentPez

Then again, he may just not go through with it. He's already made some comments that he may take out the new Light-Based spawning rules for inside buildings.
His blog says he already did "Reverted mob spawning back to the old code, it was far to annoying. I have plans on what to do with this."


#377

FnordBear

FnordBear

What is up with all the redstone torchs and the cactus?
I like cacti?

And the torches are a lovely color to light the path to my humble tree-house.


#378

Gusto

Gusto

(I just started using the Painterly Pack so this might look weird to some of y'all.)

Okay so I made a giant skylit vertical mine like X did in his Let's Play:



Here's the view up from the 4th level of the mine, as deep as I am so far:



Here's a view from the mountain across the canyon. I decided to branch out of the first floor of the mine, not remembering that I was near the edge of the mountain. I found some coal, and the mountain's edge, which I decided to turn into a completely open station. It's built in such a way that if a mob tries to drop on me from above, he'll fall right off the mountain.



Here's a slightly different angle, from night, that shows the whole mine system from across the canyon.



I think it's a nice cozy space. This pic shows it from the inside. Across the way you can see a little fort I made to camp out for the night while taking my previous screenshots.



---------- Post added at 08:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:36 PM ----------

The awesome thing about crossing the canyon to make that shack and take those screenshots was that I found a HUGE sandy beach behind it, which I'll need to make what is basically Willy Wonka's Great Glass Diamond Mine.


#379



noaxark

Hah actually the term is for 6 months at $30. Sorry had to re-read my invoice. So it would actually be about $5/slot every 6 months.
Hey, uh, you do know I've already offered you guys one for free, right? :p

I've been running it for myself and the IRC channel for a while and I recently gave GasBandit the go-ahead to post it here. It is backed up regularly, runs on good hardware and is by all accounts relatively lag free. I've seen several visitors from the forum already, and like we've said before, a bunch of us from the IRC channel play there regularly.

Maintaining it costs me nothing but unused server capacity, so it will run indefinitely at no charge.

At the moment I'm running vanilla server software with no particular rules beyond "don't be a douche", but I'm open to suggestions for making it better.


#380

Silver Jelly

Silver Jelly

Have you started any new worlds since the update? It's probably because my spawn point is in some biome, but to me, used to the "classic" minecraft topography, it looked wrong.


#381

Far

Far

These are not the droids you're looking for.


#382

GasBandit

GasBandit

and I recently gave GasBandit the go-ahead to post it here.
And I did! I guess when I'm not being a demeaning ogre nobody pays attention to me unless I've got a castle and a warship :p


#383

strawman

strawman

and I recently gave GasBandit the go-ahead to post it here.
And I did! I guess when I'm not being a demeaning ogre nobody pays attention to me unless I've got a castle and a warship :p[/QUOTE]

I got on and claimed a small space and a mine away from all the hubbub. Haven't had time to do much with it though, but I guess if it's going to get more busy I'd better build so people don't take my spot.


#384



noaxark

Just a small notice on the server: for now, try to refrain from straying too far from the main village. The algorithms for the biomes need to be updated as they are too flat at the moment, so let's try to avoid getting those chunks generated.

notch is already working on it, and when he's done I plan on doing a little christmas cleaning. Most chunks without any player-made stuff on them will then be deleted to make room for more interesting shapes. I will post a map here before, though, so you can mark down anything you've made off in the distance. But until then it's best to avoid building way out there at all. Shouldn't be that much of a problem, since there's still plenty of space.


#385

Gusto

Gusto

I built a little shack in the woods before I pined for all the resources and tools I left in my single player world. I'll probably be back. :)


#386

strawman

strawman

I built a little shack in the woods before I pined for all the resources and tools I left in my single player world. I'll probably be back. :)
You better!

It does take awhile to get started, though. It's too bad that there isn't a "getting started" server mod which fills the first storage box a user creates with useful items to get going on the server.

Alternately a public hoard for those things people don't want/need anymore would be a great help, if placed near the spawn point.


#387

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Hmmm I'm considering this. I've been away from Minecraft for a while now.... might be time to head back in.... would I still see my miner Shego skin on the multiplayer server?


#388

strawman

strawman

Hmmm I'm considering this. I've been away from Minecraft for a while now.... might be time to head back in.... would I still see my miner Shego skin on the multiplayer server?
Gasbandit was wearing a Mario outfit last I saw him on the server. It looks like if you update your skin at Minecraft then it shows up on the server as well, but maybe GB can chime in here?


#389

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Oh wow, even more awesome. I'll be easy to spot. I'm just gonna say ya'll are lucky that it's set to non-PVP. I'm a beast with TNT and Arrows >:D


#390

GasBandit

GasBandit

It's not "set" to non-pvp, you have to run special mods to enable quasi-pvp :p The official minecraft server does not as of yet support pvp. Or minecarts. Or buckets. Or portals... or etc.

And yes, you can still set your account to use a custom skin at minecraft.net in the preferences section.


#391



noaxark

It's not "set" to non-pvp, you have to run special mods to enable quasi-pvp :p The official minecraft server does not as of yet support pvp. Or minecarts. Or buckets. Or portals... or etc.
I think I'll hold off on custom software for a while, though. At least until we see the smp updates notch promised next week.


#392

GasBandit

GasBandit

Cartograph of the server, now with my castle and village imported -

link for download

Open quote for embedded 13 meg image >_<



#393

GasBandit

GasBandit

And now with named regions (although most of the outlying areas will probably get deleted :p )


#394



Rubicon



Nice :confused:


#395

GasBandit

GasBandit

you took that picture from a horrible angle.. you can't even see the lava-vomiting iron skull above and behind it!


#396

Far

Far

Should be jumping on the server later on. Hope to see some of you there. Glad we finally have a place for us.


#397

drifter

drifter

Cartograph of the server, now with my castle and village imported -
Wait, can we import our maps onto the server? :confused:

I've mostly refrained from building on multiplayer maps because of the work I've invested in my own world, but if this is the case then that changes things.


#398

Gusto

Gusto

Gas, your labeled cartograph shows my little hut but it is literally so small you didn't even label it. :)


#399

strawman

strawman

Gas, your labeled cartograph shows my little hut but it is literally so small you didn't even label it. :)
You need to build something ugly and ostentatious like my skyway to be recognized. ;-P


#400

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Cartograph of the server, now with my castle and village imported -
Wait, can we import our maps onto the server? :confused:

I've mostly refrained from building on multiplayer maps because of the work I've invested in my own world, but if this is the case then that changes things.[/QUOTE]

Nope.


#401

GasBandit

GasBandit

The Gasbandian Embassy is Complete.

picture 1:
picture 2:


---------- Post added at 10:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:30 PM ----------

Cartograph of the server, now with my castle and village imported -
Wait, can we import our maps onto the server? :confused:

I've mostly refrained from building on multiplayer maps because of the work I've invested in my own world, but if this is the case then that changes things.[/QUOTE]

Not easily. I got special dispensation from the server admin, and I had to use an editor to copy and paste it into an unused section of the world.


#402

Gusto

Gusto

Gas that is incredible.

I just made the dumbest mistake. I got down to a level in my glass mine where I was able to find a dungeon, a large lava pool, and several deposits of redstone, more than enough to give me a stack. I went back up to my stash to grab some buckets for lava, cuz I'd heard that buckets of lava are by far the most efficient ways of heating furnaces.

I got back to my furnace with a bucket of lava, but I still had the bucket selected. So when I right clicked to open the furnace, I DID open the furnace, but also dumped lava all over my safe room.

:( :( :(

I lost all my redstone, all my iron, most of my tools, and almost a big section of my safe room. Thank the maker one of my buckets survived so I could clear the lava out of there. I was so desperate to keep it from flooding that I ran all the way there from my spawn point in the middle of the night, taking 4 earts of damage and setting off 3 creepers during my daring run.


#403

figmentPez

figmentPez

I'd heard that buckets of lava are by far the most efficient ways of heating furnaces.
The most expensive way to heat a furnace, since you lose the bucket. 3 iron for 100 smelts isn't how I want to spend my iron. Nor do I want to have to set a timer to run back to my furnace to get the next 36 items into the hopper.


#404

GasBandit

GasBandit

uh, yeah, what Pez said, Gusto. COAL is by far the most efficient ways of heating furnaces. 8 coal = 64 smelts. Unattended smelting ftw.


#405

Gusto

Gusto

Hm, fair enough. Not that it matters now.


#406

GasBandit

GasBandit

After finishing up the big can of beans, I went for a brief exploratory trip into the LAND OF MADNESS beyond the borders of GasBandia -



#407

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

If you're feeling like a big spender when you smelt, one bucket filled with lava is 100 smelts.


#408

GasBandit

GasBandit

On a related note, DO NOT USE TINYPIC for PNG files... it totally horks their compression and makes them at least double in size (bytes).

---------- Post added at 11:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:18 PM ----------

If you're feeling like a big spender when you smelt, one bucket filled with lava is 100 smelts.
Yes, but as was said on the last page, it eats the bucket AND you have to sit there and tend it because it will continue to burn away after you've used up your stack of 64. It's just better to use 8 coal and come back later.


#409

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

I never said it was better. Just that you could do it to be a big spender.


#410

FnordBear

FnordBear

Re: Minecraft After finishing up the big can of beans, I went for a brief exploratory trip into the LAND OF MADNESS beyond the borders of GasBandia -
NOOOOOOO! That is Non-Ecludian in shape and design! You will awaken he who must not be named!

"Ph'nglui Mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn." !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*plans the construction of wards around his growing archipelago*


#411

drifter

drifter

Just wanted to say thanks go noaxark for offering up the server space. I found a nice little mountain/basin area to work in down towards the southern reaches.


#412

Far

Far

I started building just a bit north of spawn as per Gas's suggestion. Not much yet but it was cool going around and seeing what everyone else has built so far.


#413



noaxark

After finishing up the big can of beans, I went for a brief exploratory trip into the LAND OF MADNESS beyond the borders of GasBandia -

I wonder what those dots are in the distance. More madness?


#414

GasBandit

GasBandit

SPAARTAAA!


#415

Shegokigo

Shegokigo



Couldn't resist.


#416

GasBandit

GasBandit

Illegible thumbnail is illegible.


#417

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

*shrug*

Don't have access to imageshack from here at the moment.


#418

PatrThom

PatrThom

ts;dr

--Patrick


#419

figmentPez

figmentPez

Wow, looks like there's a big update for tomorrow:

General fixes:
* players and mobs in lava or fire no longer spam sound effects
* getting hit with a higher damage while recovering from a smaller one now works as intended
* lava flows further in the Nether
* zombie pigs eventually forgives
* added support for custom texture packs
* fixed duplicate buttons when resizing screens
* zombie pigs and ghasts no longer get hurt by fire or lava
* fixed volume sliders now saving properly

Multiplayer fixes:
* hellworld=true no longer overwrites old save chunks. Player positions will still break if you switch it on a running server, though
* boats are now visible to other players
* minecarts move nicer
* fishing kinda sorta works, but needs more work
* sheep and cows look like sheep and cows now
* buckets work now
* fixed stairs being really difficult to destroy
* increased the timeout before “Took too long to log in”
* made it possible to ride carts and boats (pigs should work too..)

Buckets and minecarts working in SMP? :D Oh I hope it's true.


#420

GasBandit

GasBandit

Hellz yeah.


#421



noaxark

New cartograph of ragnar. Can you spot the differences? :)



#422

GasBandit

GasBandit

Interesting cartographer bug, that my can is pretty much transparent :p guess it doesn't do well drawing diamond blocks.


#423



Soliloquy

So, I haven't been able to read through the entire thread (I tried, but the slow connection where I'm at, along with the big pictures, made it too frustrating) but is there a multiplayer server that a lot of Halforumites go to? 'Cause I'd love to join in.


#424

GasBandit

GasBandit

So, I haven't been able to read through the entire thread (I tried, but the slow connection where I'm at, along with the big pictures, made it too frustrating) but is there a multiplayer server that a lot of Halforumites go to? 'Cause I'd love to join in.
Yes, but if your connection is too slow to load the pictures, it might be too slow for SMP... it's not exactly optimized for network. Even at T1 speeds it can load slowly.

The address is
available by PM.


#425

figmentPez

figmentPez

Well, I haven't built much, but I'm staking a claim:


#426



Soliloquy

So, I haven't been able to read through the entire thread (I tried, but the slow connection where I'm at, along with the big pictures, made it too frustrating) but is there a multiplayer server that a lot of Halforumites go to? 'Cause I'd love to join in.
Yes, but if your connection is too slow to load the pictures, it might be too slow for SMP... it's not exactly optimized for network. Even at T1 speeds it can load slowly.

The address is
ragnar --dot-- homeserver.com
[/QUOTE]

Nah, I don't think that'll be a problem. I was just getting work done at a library after dropping off a job application. The connections there aren't exactly what you'd call "good"

I'll check it out!


#427



Rubicon

My base on Ragnar is small at the moment, and well hidden. Primarily because of framerate issues. I found a nice big hill, and tunneled straight down until I hit bedrock. Made sure I had some torches on me, then closed off the shaft securing me deep underground. I've begun excavating a large room to begin with then I'll stretch out in various tunnel systems leading to other areas of the world. And I'm staying entirely under ground. The only times I'll ever resurface is to stock back up on wood for supplies.


#428

figmentPez

figmentPez

The only times I'll ever resurface is to stock back up on wood for supplies.
Why not grow trees down there with you?


#429

FnordBear

FnordBear

...then I'll stretch out in various tunnel systems leading to other areas of the world. And I'm staying entirely under ground. The only times I'll ever resurface is to stock back up on wood for supplies.
Feel free to connect to the tunnel system near Humble Tree....just dont tunnel through wall that have two torches one atop the other...there is lava behind those >.>

Also you can always poke your head up in my under-water glass-domed hut....you are technically not "resurfacing" then.



You should totally make a custom dwarf player skin too :3


#430



Rubicon

You should totally make a custom dwarf player skin too :3
I was thinking of going with Dig Dug;



#431

FnordBear

FnordBear

You should totally make a custom dwarf player skin too :3
I was thinking of going with Dig Dug;

[/QUOTE]

You sir win an internet.


#432

strawman

strawman

You might want to place a monument or at least sign above your area so that we know not to start working in that area, and also so it isn't deleted when the next update comes along and the unused portions of the world are deleted so biomes can take effect elsewhere.


#433

GasBandit

GasBandit

I tried getting on last night to start building some rails in preparation for the patch, but man, I had like 90 seconds of lag! What the heck was going on last night?


#434

GasBandit

GasBandit

Hooray! The new patch is live! ... soon as Noax updates the server exe, Imma be a tracklayin' foo.


#435



noaxark

I tried getting on last night to start building some rails in preparation for the patch, but man, I had like 90 seconds of lag! What the heck was going on last night?
Nothing out of the ordinary on my end as far as I know, although I was probably asleep at the time.

Hooray! The new patch is live! ... soon as Noax updates the server exe, Imma be a tracklayin' foo.
Server is updated, but I'm afraid there'll be some maintenance downtime for the next hour or so, in case anyone wonders. Gonna move it back into the closet and try to get rid of some cable clutter.

Edit: Back up again! And I must say I didn't fail as much as usual in arranging the cables :)

Edit 2: ...aaaand of course minecraft.net went down instead. Figures, heh.


#436

GasBandit

GasBandit

Aw hells yeah mofos... Boosters confirmed still working, even in SMP! One little oddity though - a PLACED minecart can no longer be "broken" to be picked back up again... so this will need to entail some rather creative cart storage methods :p


#437

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Saw this on Kotaku.



#438

Gusto

Gusto

Since basically losing everything on my single player map, I think it's time to make the full time move to the multiplayer server.

Which means it's time to stake out a claim on a real piece of land.


#439

GasBandit

GasBandit

hmm, and they don't seem to work very well if you travel faster than the server can load terrain for you :wtf:


#440

Gusto

Gusto

Do I need to redownload Minecraft after this patch? I can still log in to single player stuff but when I attempt to join the multiplayer server it either tells me the client is outdated or I just time out.


#441



noaxark

Do I need to redownload Minecraft after this patch? I can still log in to single player stuff but when I attempt to join the multiplayer server it either tells me the client is outdated or I just time out.
The login servers are down. Not much to do but wait.


#442

Gusto

Gusto

Ah okay, fair enough. I guess I'll have to wait til after school, probably. Heading out in an hour and a half. :(


#443

GasBandit

GasBandit

Whatever you guys do, don't ride a minecart into unloaded territory... it crashes you, and makes you unable to log back in until the server is rebooted. >_<

Also, I hear tell hitting F4 will now spontaneously create a nether gate, so beware.


#444

Gusto

Gusto

Hey if you guys wouldn't mind helping out a noob on the server:



Here is the current location of my little hut. You can kinda see a wooden wall with a torch sticking out of the foliage there.

Anyway, I'm planning on making this server the majority of Minecraft gameplay, but don't wanna have to completely start over. As soon as I can get back on the server, probably not til like 9:30EST, I'm gonna bust down my shed and relocate elsewhere.

IN THE MEANTIME:

If you're feeling generous, please feel free to drop any resources and tools you can spare into my shed. I think I have a large chest in there but I honestly don't know. If not just toss it in or even make me a chest. :) Any help you can spare would go a long way to my making a stand in the Gasbandian wastelands.


#445

Baerdog

Baerdog

So for a while now I've been hearing a bunch of people in #pvponline talking about Minecraft and have been following this thread with interest. Saturday I decided to pick it up on a lark but it wasn't until Sunday that I was able to really get into it. My first two worlds started pretty crappy but my third world has been awesome. There were a few floating islands hovering above a small bay not far from my spawn and I have decided to expand them to make room for a sky castle.

So far I've completed the southeastern tower. It's five stories tall and has a beacon on it for easy nighttime finding.

From the top of the tower here is the view of the east.


The south.


The west.


And the north.

Since completing the tower I've begun expanding the island and laying the foundations for the east wall. In this picture you can see where the east gatehouse will be located as well as the foundation of the northeast tower.


And finally here is a shot of the whole island so far from the ground.

Once I have more work done on the castle my next project will be building a cathedral on my spawn point so that when I die I can be resurrected in a self-aggrandizing church to me!


#446

figmentPez

figmentPez

a PLACED minecart can no longer be "broken" to be picked back up again...
Dammit Notch! That is going to be such a pain.

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If you're feeling generous, please feel free to drop any resources and tools you can spare into my shed. I think I have a large chest in there but I honestly don't know. If not just toss it in or even make me a chest. :) Any help you can spare would go a long way to my making a stand in the Gasbandian wastelands.
Did you not find the chest of supplies I placed near spawn? Or did that get emptied out already? Also, if you're in need of wood, there is a tree farm between your hut and my place, just look for the super dense cluster of trees with torches at their bases. On the south side of the grove is a chest with wood that is free to take. Whenever I harvest I tend to leave about half of what I get in that chest for others.


#447

Gusto

Gusto

Haha, word, I'll just raid every chest I see on my way to somewhere. ;)


#448

GasBandit

GasBandit

I think gusto started and plunked down his shack before you put down the newbie chests at the spawn, Pez.

In other news, you can "break" a minecart with flint and tinder (set it on fire), but the resulting cart "item" popping out might also burn up if you don't snag it fast enough or are just unlucky.


#449

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

If you take anything but a stone pick out of a newbie chest, you're doing it wrong.


#450

figmentPez

figmentPez

If you take anything but a stone pick out of a newbie chest, you're doing it wrong.
Meh, until there are monsters at night that can do damage, I don't care what people find on their own.


On another note, minecarts can still be collected just fine in single player. Woo!

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Haha, word, I'll just raid every chest I see on my way to somewhere. ;)
Well, the newbie chest is labeled, and I was going to make a sign for the tree farm chest, but the server was doing funky stuff to me last night. (I got stuck in a loop where the same thing happened over and over and over).


#451

GasBandit

GasBandit

The tech of minecraft computing advances again... Redstone LED numeric indicators -



#452

Gusto

Gusto

(I got stuck in a loop where the same thing happened over and over and over).
The first time I got on the multiplayer server I got in some kind of loop when placing coal in my furnace that basically generated me like 15 free coal. :)


#453

doomdragon6

doomdragon6

Jesus dick, son.


#454

Gusto

Gusto

The tech of minecraft computing advances again... Redstone LED numeric indicators -

I am constantly amazed by this kind of stuff. I can't wait til someone makes PongCraft.


#455

Baerdog

Baerdog

The tech of minecraft computing advances again... Redstone LED numeric indicators -

That's pretty amazing. My mind was boggling at how huge the structure behind it is. I wonder how long it took this guy to build it.


#456



Rubicon

You might want to place a monument or at least sign above your area so that we know not to start working in that area, and also so it isn't deleted when the next update comes along and the unused portions of the world are deleted so biomes can take effect elsewhere.
Good idea.

There is now a wooden sign, surrounded by four torches, on top of the mountain right next to the shaft that leads to what I've dubbed, Mole Town. It's a straight shot down so bring at least two stone axes or better to get there, and at least 110 blocks of something else to make the climb back up.


#457

Gusto

Gusto

Using Gasbandit's most recent cartograph, I think I've plotted out an area to claim.


#458

GasBandit

GasBandit

By the way, if anyone wants to build a house or move into an existing one in GasBandia, feel free >:D


#459

Gusto

Gusto

Using Gasbandit's most recent cartograph, I think I've plotted out an area to claim.


(And yeah I'm really not focusing on my studying here...)


#460

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

(And yeah I'm really not focusing on my studying here...)


#461



noaxark

Seems the latest server software causes blocks to frequently respawn. Not sure whether it's caused by an increase in lag (since it's normally a lag issue) or if something else is going on here. It happens to me as well, even though I connect through LAN. In any case, I'm sure it'll be fixed soon.


#462

Gusto

Gusto

WHO FLOODED MY SHAAAAAACK :Leyla:


#463

figmentPez

figmentPez

This suspicious character was spotted at the scene of the crime:


#464

Gusto

Gusto

You'll get yours, pig.


#465

strawman

strawman

Man, now I wish I had time to playyyyyyyyyyyyyy! I want to drill a shaft from myself to Rubicon and make a subway system everywhere, since no one likes skywalks these days.

-Adam


#466

Baerdog

Baerdog

Skywalks are soooo Jetsons retro-future.


#467

drifter

drifter

Hey noaxark or GasBandit, could I get a standard top-down map of the server?


#468



noaxark

Hey noaxark or GasBandit, could I get a standard top-down map of the server?
Here you go:



And a fresh isometric:



#469

Gusto

Gusto

Sweet Ragnar graphic glitches!





I found these while on a two day trek to the south to find clay. I wanna make Gusto Tower out of brick. :)


#470



noaxark

Sweet Ragnar graphic glitches!

PIC

PIC

I found these while on a two day trek to the south to find clay. I wanna make Gusto Tower out of brick. :)
could you mark on the map were you were? Looks like simple lag, especially the last pic. Probably caused by the update.


#471

Gusto

Gusto

The second pic was just lag, I just thought it was a cool screenshot.

The first pic was basically the edge of the world, the upper edge near the middle of the right arm (going by the topdown image above).

I was boating from place to place looking for clay and hit a waterfall at the edge of the world. I couldn't navigate away from it so I tried reconnecting. My boat disappeared but the glitch was gone too. I could see an instance of myself logged in, deep below my new position. It looked like a chunk(s) had been generated in the meantime but I can't really confirm that.

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Here's a picture of Fnordbear giving me coal to kiln all of my bricks, on the foundation of the now-four-layer-tall Gusto Tower. You can see Fnord's Humble Tree and Gasbandit's Holy Relic in the background, across the bay.



#472

Necronic

Necronic

As a huge fan of Dwarf Fortress would this be worth picking up? I don't really like the fact that there is only one dwarf under your control, and it looks like all you do in this game is building, but the building stuff seems interesting. Anyone here who has played both care to comment?


#473

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

As a huge fan of Dwarf Fortress would this be worth picking up? I don't really like the fact that there is only one dwarf under your control, and it looks like all you do in this game is building, but the building stuff seems interesting. Anyone here who has played both care to comment?
I would describe it as Dwarf Fortress if all you had to worry about was being one of those Dwarves who got a Fae mood, so you could spend all day get materials to build your next wonder.


#474

GasBandit

GasBandit

Sweet Ragnar graphic glitches!

PIC

PIC

I found these while on a two day trek to the south to find clay. I wanna make Gusto Tower out of brick. :)
could you mark on the map were you were? Looks like simple lag, especially the last pic. Probably caused by the update.[/QUOTE]

That second one happens to me all the time in both single and multiplayer, no matter the server. It's just a chunk update glitch.


#475



noaxark

That second one happens to me all the time in both single and multiplayer, no matter the server. It's just a chunk update glitch.
Same for me, although it seems to happen more often and takes longer to correct itself lately. Maybe I'm imagining things...


#476

drifter

drifter

Here you go:
-snip-
Thanks!


#477

Necronic

Necronic

bah, that's boring. Where's the Fun?


#478

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

bah, that's boring. Where's the Fun?
It's entirely possible to lose a huge supply of materials (that will vanish if you don't get them quickly) by dying because of...

- Accidentally stumbling into a cave system full of monsters
- Causing a gravel/sand cave-in which buries you and your stuff
- Cracking into a Lava flow, which quickly burns you (and most likely melts your stuff)
- Hitting a Water flow, which pushes you off a cliff to your death
- Creepers. Just... Creepers.

... and many more ways. So yes, Minecraft is full of FUN.


#479



noaxark

I made a new thread for a fresh start and an easier way for me to get out information on the server.

This thread will close as soon as I can find Ame :)


#480

Necronic

Necronic

bah, that's boring. Where's the Fun?
It's entirely possible to lose a huge supply of materials (that will vanish if you don't get them quickly) by dying because of...

- Accidentally stumbling into a cave system full of monsters
- Causing a gravel/sand cave-in which buries you and your stuff
- Cracking into a Lava flow, which quickly burns you (and most likely melts your stuff)
- Hitting a Water flow, which pushes you off a cliff to your death
- Creepers. Just... Creepers.

... and many more ways. So yes, Minecraft is full of FUN.[/QUOTE]

Interesting. That sounds like my kind of FUN. Seriously thats almost the same list of FUN for Dwarf Fortress. I'll have to try this out this weekend.


#481

figmentPez

figmentPez

I had a crazy idea while listening to some music today. I thought it might be cool to have 40 acres of farmland in Minecraft...

Then I checked to see how much space that would actually be. If my googling and math are correct, 40 acres would be a square of ground about 403 blocks on a side (one acre would be a square 64 blocks on a side). Holy crap, just leveling that amount of ground would be a huge task. Maybe I'll just do an acre, that would still be pretty impressive.


#482



noaxark



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