"Transformers 2" is a horrible experience of unbearable leng

[Twitch]

I know what a lot of you people are saying: I'm not looking for [glorified movie]. YES, WE KNOW THIS.


MANY OF US ARE JUST LIKE YOU.


Not everything has to be all about brilliance and aesthetic, but there are craft that STILL apply when making ANY genre of film. You can see craft in comedy, action, horror. It's always there; there are people who are masterful at what they do, and there are fucking scrubs. Consider T2 in the later.

Now, barring that, you're thinking: well, it's going to be horrible so I'll drink a few beers and just laugh at it (like I laughed at Rambo 3!) Well you see, what happens is, is that this movie is so godawful terrible that it can't even be saved by ridicule. It's a lmbering, frankenstein abortion of a film that includes some of the worst characters and some of the most incomprehensible fight scenes. (Seriously, I want someone to try and say they actually saw what happened and with which robots it was. Describe in as much detail as possible, I don't want to hear "Optimus laid into a Decepticon."

This movie is a sheer assault on the eye balls and the brain, and is probably the worst movie of 2009 (so far. Oh god, and it's almost only 7 months in).

I was trying to say something like that with my Jurassic Park quote but I believe you said it better. Danke.

 

[Shegokigo]

Except GI Joe. I am determined to see that movie, and like it too.

Yeah, but GI Joe has alot of things going for it:

Sienna Miller as Baroness, Dennis Quiad as Hawk, Ray Park as Snake Eyes, OH YEAH and a movie about GI Joe is actually going to have them in it as main characters and not just cameos in their own movie.

 

[Shannow]

Lets be honest, it looks like it will be shit.

 

[Shegokigo]

Lets be honest, it looks like it will be poop.

Movie magic? Nah.

Deliver what I just described? I'm counting on it.

 

[Twitch]

So it will deliver those actors in those roles and there will be GI JOE in it? She's got you there Shannow.

 

[Alex B.]

GiJoe almost has me up until they introduce the Halo suits. Then it's all downhill. I'll probably skip it.

However, Scarlet is super hot.

 

[Cajungal]

Juski hit the nail on the head on page 10.

Although I don't know about being unable to salvage a movie with ridicule... maybe just leave it up to the professionals (rifftrax, mwaha). They did a good job with the first Transformers.

 

[Shannow]

Lets be honest, it looks like it will be poop.

Movie magic? Nah.

Deliver what I just described? I'm counting on it.

That is the same argument made here for TF2. It has giant robots fighting, what else do you want!?

 

[Steven Soderburgin]

"man i don't care that this game had shitty level design, boring fights, and infuriating controls. i wanted a guy with a huge gun blowing up evil aliens and that's what i got" - every halforum poster

"who cares if this book reads like it was written by a fourth grader with a learning disorder? just turn your brain off" - every halforum poster

"this picture of a pile of shit was literally created in mspaint with the spraypaint tool by someone with parkinson's but i liked it anyway. i wasn't expecting monet." - every halforum poster

 

[Shannow]

That sums it up Kiss, unforunately.

 

[ElJuski]

Damn he's good

 

[Shawn]

Sounds like Kiss knows how to make a good Transformers movie seeing how he knows exactly why the current ones are bad.
Can I read the script when you are done?
Feel free to work with Shannow and Juski if you like. Just make sure you share the credit with each other.
/sarcasm

Why do you folks have to insult those with simply different tastes than you? A better sum up is, "some liked it. Some didn't". Am I stupid for enjoying a movie you don't? I can agree the movie has a horrible plot and script. But I can still be entertained by it. "Giant Robots" is just an easy way to sum up why I enjoy it. I could also elaborate and say I enjoyed the special effects, the explosions, the excitement, the action, and the giant robots.

 

[strawman]

"man i don't care that this game had shitty level design, boring fights, and infuriating controls. i wanted a guy with a huge gun blowing up evil aliens and that's what i got" - every halforum poster

"who cares if this book reads like it was written by a fourth grader with a learning disorder? just turn your brain off" - every halforum poster

"this picture of a pile of poop was literally created in mspaint with the spraypaint tool by someone with parkinson's but i liked it anyway. i wasn't expecting monet." - every halforum poster

I'm sorry, I've been using the avatar that properly belongs to you for far too long, I'll change it posthaste. Here's a copy so you can crop it - I'm certain my version does not meet your approval.

:tongue:

-Adam

 

[sixpackshaker]

"I am enjoying an action packed book, but the author left his preposition dangling, so I'll stop reading now."

 

[bhamv2]

Why do you folks have to insult those with simply different tastes than you? A better sum up is, "some liked it. Some didn't".

That's what I've been pondering. It really makes you guys feel that much superior to put down the people who liked this movie?

Seriously guys, you don't like the Transformers movies. We get it. You don't like it when people defend the Transformers movies too, that's also clear. But do you have to dislike the people defending the movie? The people?

For all the intellectual superiority and maturity you guys feel disliking Transformers would show, are you really being mature and intelligent?

I'm done with this thread. No point clicking into a thread where a small clique of people delight in bullying others based on nothing more than movie preferences.

 

[Krisken]

Why do you folks have to insult those with simply different tastes than you? A better sum up is, "some liked it. Some didn't".

That's what I've been pondering. It really makes you guys feel that much superior to put down the people who liked this movie?

Seriously guys, you don't like the Transformers movies. We get it. You don't like it when people defend the Transformers movies too, that's also clear. But do you have to dislike the people defending the movie? The people?

For all the intellectual superiority and maturity you guys feel disliking Transformers would show, are you really being mature and intelligent?

I'm done with this thread. No point clicking into a thread where a small clique of people delight in bullying others based on nothing more than movie preferences.

+1

 

[Shannow]

Sounds like Kiss knows how to make a good Transformers movie seeing how he knows exactly why the current ones are bad.
Can I read the script when you are done?
Feel free to work with Shannow and Juski if you like. Just make sure you share the credit with each other.
/sarcasm

Why do you folks have to insult those with simply different tastes than you? A better sum up is, "some liked it. Some didn't". Am I stupid for enjoying a movie you don't? I can agree the movie has a horrible plot and script. But I can still be entertained by it. "Giant Robots" is just an easy way to sum up why I enjoy it. I could also elaborate and say I enjoyed the special effects, the explosions, the excitement, the action, and the giant robots.

Earlier in thread:

Hey, I just went to that expecting a bare ass farting and that's what I got. Not everything has to be "Date Movie", okay?

 

[Adam]

Why do you folks have to insult those with simply different tastes than you? A better sum up is, "some liked it. Some didn't".

That's what I've been pondering. It really makes you guys feel that much superior to put down the people who liked this movie?

Seriously guys, you don't like the Transformers movies. We get it. You don't like it when people defend the Transformers movies too, that's also clear. But do you have to dislike the people defending the movie? The people?

For all the intellectual superiority and maturity you guys feel disliking Transformers would show, are you really being mature and intelligent?

I'm done with this thread. No point clicking into a thread where a small clique of people delight in bullying others based on nothing more than movie preferences.

+1

+2

 

[Shawn]

Sounds like Kiss knows how to make a good Transformers movie seeing how he knows exactly why the current ones are bad.
Can I read the script when you are done?
Feel free to work with Shannow and Juski if you like. Just make sure you share the credit with each other.
/sarcasm

Why do you folks have to insult those with simply different tastes than you? A better sum up is, "some liked it. Some didn't". Am I stupid for enjoying a movie you don't? I can agree the movie has a horrible plot and script. But I can still be entertained by it. "Giant Robots" is just an easy way to sum up why I enjoy it. I could also elaborate and say I enjoyed the special effects, the explosions, the excitement, the action, and the giant robots.

Earlier in thread:

Hey, I just went to that expecting a bare a** farting and that's what I got. Not everything has to be "Date Movie", okay?

Bit out of context or does that have relevance?

 

[MindDetective]

I love this thread.

 

[Shannow]

So, I am wrong for pointing out why I did not liek this movie? I even gave a couple specific examples, both in this thread and the other. I can give many more, if that would suit you.

And yes, I jsut wanted to see robots fighting, too.

 

[Shawn]

So, I am wrong for pointing out why I did not liek this movie? I even gave a couple specific examples, both in this thread and the other. I can give many more, if that would suit you.

And yes, I jsut wanted to see robots fighting, too.

Alright. You didn't enjoy it. I recommend not seeing it again or purchasing the DVD.
Buying the toys might be okay. I hear some of them look pretty snazzy.

 

[Troll]

So, I am wrong for pointing out why I did not liek this movie? I even gave a couple specific examples, both in this thread and the other. I can give many more, if that would suit you.

And yes, I jsut wanted to see robots fighting, too.

The problem isn't when people say they didn't like the movie. The problem is when people present that opinion as absolute fact and then insult everyone who disagrees.

 

[Shannow]

Sounds like Kiss knows how to make a good Transformers movie seeing how he knows exactly why the current ones are bad.
Can I read the script when you are done?
Feel free to work with Shannow and Juski if you like. Just make sure you share the credit with each other.
/sarcasm

Why do you folks have to insult those with simply different tastes than you? A better sum up is, "some liked it. Some didn't". Am I stupid for enjoying a movie you don't? I can agree the movie has a horrible plot and script. But I can still be entertained by it. "Giant Robots" is just an easy way to sum up why I enjoy it. I could also elaborate and say I enjoyed the special effects, the explosions, the excitement, the action, and the giant robots.

Earlier in thread:

Hey, I just went to that expecting a bare a** farting and that's what I got. Not everything has to be "Date Movie", okay?

Bit out of context or does that have relevance?

Relevance. Basically it was an extreme (albeit joking) example of the concept of dumbing down of the media, and why its accepted. Thats all.

 

[Shawn]

So, I am wrong for pointing out why I did not liek this movie? I even gave a couple specific examples, both in this thread and the other. I can give many more, if that would suit you.

And yes, I jsut wanted to see robots fighting, too.

The problem isn't when people say they didn't like the movie. The problem is when people present that opinion as absolute fact and then insult everyone who disagrees.

The Troll teaches us something.
Anyone feel the walls of reality about to fall down on us right there?

 

[Shannow]

So, I am wrong for pointing out why I did not liek this movie? I even gave a couple specific examples, both in this thread and the other. I can give many more, if that would suit you.

And yes, I jsut wanted to see robots fighting, too.

Alright. You didn't enjoy it. I recommend not seeing it again or purchasing the DVD.
Buying the toys might be okay. I hear some of them look pretty snazzy.

So no one should post anything on a forum, then? That is what you are saying here.

 

[ElJuski]

A small clique of people? Or, a good portion of the forum, who stand behind a fucking majority of critics? There's a good portion of this populace here, and in America and the world wide in general, that felt that Transformers 2 is an offense to the movie-going demographic. I for one feel insulted that they thought I was so stupid to grin and bear it.

Fuck yeah me, Shannow and Kissinger could write a better Transformers movie. The script would be solid, I know that for sure. It wouldn't treat the audience like they were seven years old, and it would still be a badass action flick with giant robots beating the shit out of each other. BUT...you people have already proven that you don't need any of that. You just need a brand name and shit flashing in front of your eyes. Just please don't make another HOLLYWOOD IS KILLING MY CHILDHOOD / HAS NO CREATIVITY threads anymore; more of this shit is coming, from all sides. Hollywood is dancing.

"I am enjoying an action packed book, but the author left his preposition dangling, so I'll stop reading now."

Well that happens a lot; that's why books have editors. Now, if the whole book was a grammatical mess, and the author tried to talk to me like I was four, and didn't even explain the action scenes all that great...

-- Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:51 pm --

That said, you can have your shitty tastes. Subjective is subjective! Just try and watch some good movies before Hollywood completely crushes anything that has individual artistic merit and methodology.

 

[Shannow]

the real problem is, by shelling out money constantly, we all just feed the cycle. And thats why the good big movies are fewer and further between. Thats the other problem with it all.

 

[Shawn]

So, I am wrong for pointing out why I did not liek this movie? I even gave a couple specific examples, both in this thread and the other. I can give many more, if that would suit you.

And yes, I jsut wanted to see robots fighting, too.

Alright. You didn't enjoy it. I recommend not seeing it again or purchasing the DVD.
Buying the toys might be okay. I hear some of them look pretty snazzy.

So no one should post anything on a forum, then? That is what you are saying here.

Am I? *Checks* Not seeing it there.
Hmm. Let me consider if I possibly implied it. No... don't seem to be implying anything like that.
Forums are a great place to post opinions. But that's all they are. Opinions. You don't start arguments about opinions, and you sure as heck don't tell someone their opinion is wrong and they must be stupid to think that way.

 

[Cog]

Nope, nobody is angry. What was I thinking?.

 

[Steven Soderburgin]

taste is subjective, fine, but if you like the transformers movie, fuck, is there anything you WOULDN'T like?

also this idea that opinions can never be wrong is frankly childish

 

[Shannow]

Am I? *Checks* Not seeing it there.
Hmm. Let me consider if I possibly implied it. No... don't seem to be implying anything like that.
Forums are a great place to post opinions. But that's all they are. Opinions. You don't start arguments about opinions, and you sure as heck don't tell someone their opinion is wrong and they must be stupid to think that way.

Yes, but then what do you argue? What do you have discourse about, if not opinions? just we all jsut link news stories and then nothing?

Fact is, arguing opinions, and yes, even the insult hurling, is all part of the fun of an an internet forum. Without it, things would become bland and stale quite quickly.

Take this thread for example. It has gone everywhere, and is one of the most active this board has seen in a while.

 

[Adam]

Am I? *Checks* Not seeing it there.
Hmm. Let me consider if I possibly implied it. No... don't seem to be implying anything like that.
Forums are a great place to post opinions. But that's all they are. Opinions. You don't start arguments about opinions, and you sure as heck don't tell someone their opinion is wrong and they must be stupid to think that way.

*shrug* You're always going to get this douchebags who are so threatened by others opinions that they feel the need to trample on everyone elses. They're easily identifiable in this thread.

Best just to and move on.

 

[MindDetective]

Am I? *Checks* Not seeing it there.
Hmm. Let me consider if I possibly implied it. No... don't seem to be implying anything like that.
Forums are a great place to post opinions. But that's all they are. Opinions. You don't start arguments about opinions, and you sure as heck don't tell someone their opinion is wrong and they must be stupid to think that way.

*shrug* You're always going to get this douchebags who are so threatened by others opinions that they feel the need to trample on everyone elses. They're easily identifiable in this thread.

Best just to and move on.

LOL!

 

[strawman]

The trolling going on in this thread?

Epic.

-Adam