"Transformers 2" is a horrible experience of unbearable leng

[DarkAudit]

Aww the hell with it...

 

[MindDetective]

I don't think it counts as trolling if it is just two sides disagreeing.

 

[Troll]

also this idea that opinions can never be wrong is frankly childish

So is calling other people names because they like something different.

I'm not saying people shouldn't express opinions. I'm just saying they shouldn't follow up their opinions with something along the lines of "and fuck anyone who thinks otherwise." At least not when we're discussing a movie.

 

[Shannow]

Am I? *Checks* Not seeing it there.
Hmm. Let me consider if I possibly implied it. No... don't seem to be implying anything like that.
Forums are a great place to post opinions. But that's all they are. Opinions. You don't start arguments about opinions, and you sure as heck don't tell someone their opinion is wrong and they must be stupid to think that way.

*shrug* You're always going to get this douchebags who are so threatened by others opinions that they feel the need to trample on everyone elses. They're easily identifiable in this thread.

Best just to and move on.

Wow...I mean, just wow. I am not even going to touch that little bit of bait right there.

 

[Adam]

I'm not saying people shouldn't express opinions. I'm just saying they shouldn't follow up their opinions with something along the lines of "and smurf anyone who thinks otherwise." At least not when we're discussing a movie.

And fuck anyone who thinks otherwise!

It's fucking all the way down!

-- Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:06 pm --

*shrug* You're always going to get this douchebags who are so threatened by others opinions that they feel the need to trample on everyone elses. They're easily identifiable in this thread.

Best just to and move on.

Wow...I mean, just wow. I am not even going to touch that little bit of bait right there.

I am a master baiter after all.

 

[DarkAudit]

 

[Krisken]

Am I? *Checks* Not seeing it there.
Hmm. Let me consider if I possibly implied it. No... don't seem to be implying anything like that.
Forums are a great place to post opinions. But that's all they are. Opinions. You don't start arguments about opinions, and you sure as heck don't tell someone their opinion is wrong and they must be stupid to think that way.

*shrug* You're always going to get this douchebags who are so threatened by others opinions that they feel the need to trample on everyone elses. They're easily identifiable in this thread.

Best just to and move on.

Wow...I mean, just wow. I am not even going to touch that little bit of bait right there.

And here he says the girls tell him it's a good size.

 

[Shannow]

And here he says the girls tell him it's a good size.

Hahahahahahahahaha

 

[strawman]

I don't think it counts as trolling if it is just two sides disagreeing.

It's quite apparent that various people on both sides are pushing each other's buttons now - and it's working. There's no real discussion going on, nevermind productive discussion.

And if either side isn't trolling, considering the extreme generalizations being made, well, that's just sad.

-Adam

 

[DarkAudit]

I don't think it counts as trolling if it is just two sides disagreeing.

It's quite apparent that various people on both sides are pushing each other's buttons now - and it's working. There's no real discussion going on, nevermind productive discussion.

And if either side isn't trolling, considering the extreme generalizations being made, well, that's just sad.

-Adam

This. It's over really.

 

[Shegokigo]

That is the same argument made here for TF2. It has giant robots fighting, what else do you want!?

No. I watched Transformers 1 for giant robots fighting.

I got 10minutes of it and 2hrs of Shia "acting" like an idiot.

I've stressed these are the reasons I am avoiding Transformers 2.

"man i don't care that this game had shitty level design, boring fights, and infuriating controls. i wanted a guy with a huge gun blowing up evil aliens and that's what i got" - every halforum poster

"who cares if this book reads like it was written by a fourth grader with a learning disorder? just turn your brain off" - every halforum poster

"this picture of a pile of poop was literally created in mspaint with the spraypaint tool by someone with parkinson's but i liked it anyway. i wasn't expecting monet." - every halforum poster

EVERY Halforum poster? Really? You can do MUCH better than that Kissy.

 

[Shannow]

I don't think it counts as trolling if it is just two sides disagreeing.

It's quite apparent that various people on both sides are pushing each other's buttons now - and it's working. There's no real discussion going on, nevermind productive discussion.

And if either side isn't trolling, considering the extreme generalizations being made, well, that's just sad.

-Adam

You yourself are apart of this, Adam.

 

[MindDetective]

I don't think it counts as trolling if it is just two sides disagreeing.

It's quite apparent that various people on both sides are pushing each other's buttons now - and it's working. There's no real discussion going on, nevermind productive discussion.

And if either side isn't trolling, considering the extreme generalizations being made, well, that's just sad.

-Adam

Well, maybe we need a different word for it.

 

[Fun Size]

I don't think it counts as trolling if it is just two sides disagreeing.

It's quite apparent that various people on both sides are pushing each other's buttons now - and it's working. There's no real discussion going on, nevermind productive discussion.

And if either side isn't trolling, considering the extreme generalizations being made, well, that's just sad.

-Adam

Well, maybe we need a different word for it.

Angry forum sex.

 

[Shannow]

That is the same argument made here for TF2. It has giant robots fighting, what else do you want!?

No. I watched Transformers 1 for giant robots fighting.

I got 10minutes of it and 2hrs of Shia "acting" like an idiot.

I've stressed these are the reasons I am avoiding Transformers 2.

Shen you missed my point entirely, there. I was saying that your post about GIJoe and why to see it was like what others were saying as to why to see TF2, thats all. I was comparing the two.

 

[Shegokigo]

Shen you missed my point entirely, there. I was saying that your post about GIJoe and why to see it was like what others were saying as to why to see TF2, thats all. I was comparing the two.

Because I answered it:

My hopes that GI Joe will be better than Transformers was due to the fact that it has better actors, it actually showcases the main characters instead of making them cameos. Oh and isn't being made by Michael Bay. How's that for differences?

 

[DarkAudit]

Let's get something clear right now.

TF2 = Team Fortress 2.
T2 = Terminator 2.

Find something else to soil. :tongue:

 

[Shawn]

taste is subjective, fine, but if you like the transformers movie, smurf, is there anything you WOULDN'T like?

also this idea that opinions can never be wrong is frankly childish

I'm going to call Godwin's on that last comment, cause I know where you are going.
If taste has a right and a wrong it must be based on majority seeing how there will be varying opinions. So if a movie breaks box office records doesn't it seem that the majority of people are enjoying it? I know why you don't enjoy the movie. It lacks substance, charisma, and heart. Or however you would classify those elements into your favorite films. For me I enjoyed Transformers because it was fun and it reminds me of my youth. But even then there must be something more to it because there have been plenty of films, based on my childhood shows/comics, that have failed even to me. And yes there are plenty of films I wouldn't like. Both Fantastic 4 films (which are loaded with flashy "ooh and ah" special effects) are horrible. The Spirit was soooo bad it's loony-toon style couldn't save it. The Friday the 13th remake had absolutely nothing going for it that made it qualify as a decent reboot to the franchise. So yes. I have a long list of "bad" movies that even I won't watch a second time. I also have a good collection of "good" films that I keep around when I want something with a bit of class to it. The Prestige. Triplettes of Bellville. Spirited Away. Descent. Clue. Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Etc.
We all have our own reasons for enjoying the movies the way we do. It all comes down to "entertainment" in a nut shell. Now I'm sorry you feel that my enjoyment of a film like Transformers is going to fuel the end of good movies. I suppose someone should worn Chris Nolan, Spielberg, Peter Jackson, Bryan Singer, Pixar, and whoever else in your mind that still makes good movies that they should retire quickly. Because apparently this world has no place for good movies because of people like me. You can exaggerate the situation all you like. I'm sure eventually you'll quote Jay Sherman and say "if you stop going to bad movies they'll stop making bad movies", completely forgetting that Jay Sherman is voiced by an actor who rarely ever stars in "good" films. If you would like a list of films that are in theaters now, and have gotten great reviews from the majority of critics, I will be happy to oblige. That way you can stay clear of Transformers 2, and send Hollywood the message you want them to receieve.

 

[Shegokigo]

the real problem is, by shelling out money constantly, we all just feed the cycle. And thats why the good big movies are fewer and further between. Thats the other problem with it all.

Till eventually it's all "Ow My Balls XIII" staring Ashton Kutcher III

 

[Shannow]

Shen you missed my point entirely, there. I was saying that your post about GIJoe and why to see it was like what others were saying as to why to see TF2, thats all. I was comparing the two.

Because I answered it:

My hopes that GI Joe will be better than Transformers was due to the fact that it has better actors, it actually showcases the main characters instead of making them cameos. Oh and isn't being made by Michael Bay. How's that for differences?

No, i see what you were saying there, but it just came off originally as, I am seeing it for this reason, whether its bad movie or not. And that was what a lot of the argument on TF2 was stemming from. That was jsut the way it came across in the opriginal post, so thats why i said that. Sorry.

 

[Shegokigo]

No, i see what you were saying there, but it just came off originally as, I am seeing it for this reason, whether its bad movie or not. And that was what a lot of the argument on TF2 was stemming from. That was jsut the way it came across in the opriginal post, so thats why i said that. Sorry.

Ah gotcha :uhhuh:

 

[strawman]

I don't think it counts as trolling if it is just two sides disagreeing.

It's quite apparent that various people on both sides are pushing each other's buttons now - and it's working. There's no real discussion going on, nevermind productive discussion.

And if either side isn't trolling, considering the extreme generalizations being made, well, that's just sad.

-Adam

You yourself are apart of this, Adam.

Well, I've been trying to keep myself apart from this... :tongue:

In truth, had I known the thread was this ... involved I wouldn't have made the offer to watch the movie last night - I see now that it may have played some part in fanning the flames.

On the other hand, if I hadn't done it, I wouldn't have seen the movie last night, and I wouldn't have had such an enjoyable date with my wife. I just got a kick out of playing the southern used car salesman to Kissinger and Charlie Don't Surf's masochists for hire. I was surprised that someone (awesome!) followed through with it, and even more surprised when another awesome person showed willingness to help. How many people can say, "I asked a bunch of people on the internet to pay for my movie ticket, and they did!" The movie was good, but I'll be telling this story long after the movie has faded.

So, all in all, this thread and the events it spawned did a good thing for me.

And for that, I am grateful.

-Adam

 

[Shegokigo]

So is calling other people names because they like something different.

See I don't think that was the case at all, it seemed more like they were seeing someone eat paste saying

"I like paste! Not cause it's tasty or filling, but because it sticks to the side of my mouth!"

and they replied

"Hey dumbass, eating paste is for retards"

 

[DarkAudit]

So is calling other people names because they like something different.

See I don't think that was the case at all, it seemed more like they were seeing someone eat paste saying "I like paspte! Not cause it's tasty or filling, but because it sticks to the side of my mouth!" and they replied "Hey dumbass, eating paste is for retards"

And that it's their fault all our food is now paste flavor. :tongue:

 

[Shawn]

So is calling other people names because they like something different.

See I don't think that was the case at all, it seemed more like they were seeing someone eat paste saying "I like paspte! Not cause it's tasty or filling, but because it sticks to the side of my mouth!" and they replied "Hey dumbass, eating paste is for retards"

And that it's their fault all our food is now paste flavor. :tongue:

"Up" tastes like paste now? I suppose I should go back for a second helping then.

 

[Gusto]

Can we agree that this thread as served its purpose? I mean, I'M certainly enjoying it.

 

[Adam]

Can we agree that this thread as served its purpose? I mean, I'M certainly enjoying it.

I think it would be fair to say that "This Thread" is a horrible experience of unbearable length.

 

[strawman]

Can we agree that this thread as served its purpose? I mean, I'M certainly enjoying it.

-Adam

 

[sixpackshaker]

Can we agree that this thread as served its purpose? I mean, I'M certainly enjoying it.

I think it would be fair to say that "This Thread" is a horrible experience of unbearable length.

Yeah, that is what she said.

 

[IronBrig4]

I think a lot of defenders are missing the point here. Just because lots of people are buying tickets doesn't mean it's a GOOD movie. Let's use another example of something bad that people like... how about Bud Light? Sure, millions of people buy it. But they drink that piss because it's cheap and therefore gets them trashed for less money. I'm sure nobody LIKES Bud Light.

Transformers 2 is in the same boat. Millions of people will buy tickets because they can switch off their brain and enjoy some puerile Michael Bay entertainment. Doesn't mean it's good.

On a side note, I hear that the Pirates of the Caribbean success has compelled Hollywood to remake the classic 1935 pirate movie Captain Blood. I hope to God they don't let Michael Bay get his hands on it. The passionate yet respectable Errol Flynn/Olivia de Havilland romance will be replaced with Megan Fox's sweaty cleavage, every sinking ship will explode like it was filled with C4, and the black servants will talk in 21st century street slang.

 

[Shegokigo]

And that it's their fault all our food is now paste flavor. :tongue:

Wouldn't it be adept thinking to say: Big Food Corporation sells paste at record numbers, therefore, they would make more paste and more paste and more until there was paste everywhere? I mean, since it sells so well, why not?

 

[Shannow]

And that it's their fault all our food is now paste flavor. :tongue:

Wouldn't it be adept thinking to say: Big Food Corporation sells paste at record numbers, therefore, they would make more paste and more paste and more until there was paste everywhere? I mean, since it sells so well, why not?

That and it is easier to shell out than that other, better stuff!

 

[ElJuski]

I think a lot of defenders are missing the point here. Just because lots of people are buying tickets doesn't mean it's a GOOD movie. Let's use another example of something bad that people like... how about Bud Light? Sure, millions of people buy it. But they drink that piss because it's cheap and therefore gets them trashed for less money. I'm sure nobody LIKES Bud Light.

Transformers 2 is in the same boat. Millions of people will buy tickets because they can switch off their brain and enjoy some puerile Michael Bay entertainment. Doesn't mean it's good.

On a side note, I hear that the Pirates of the Caribbean success has compelled Hollywood to remake the classic 1935 pirate movie Captain Blood. I hope to God they don't let Michael Bay get his hands on it. The passionate yet respectable Errol Flynn/Olivia de Havilland romance will be replaced with Megan Fox's sweaty cleavage, every sinking ship will explode like it was filled with C4, and the black servants will talk in 21st century street slang.

More accurately what I am saying is:

I drink Bud Light because its cheap and it gets me drunk. But suddenly, this case of Bud Light starts tasting like the absolute worst Bud Light ever. So bad that I don't want to drink Bud Light anymore.

HOWEVER, people keep BUYING the Bud Light. And the company is making millions off of this shitty Bud Light. So it looks like I won't get my decent Bud Light anytime soon anymore. All shit, all the time!

 

[sixpackshaker]

Now you guys are just hitting the "I hate this because it is popular" button.

 

[Shakey]

I think a lot of defenders are missing the point here. Just because lots of people are buying tickets doesn't mean it's a GOOD movie. Let's use another example of something bad that people like... how about Bud Light? Sure, millions of people buy it. But they drink that piss because it's cheap and therefore gets them trashed for less money. I'm sure nobody LIKES Bud Light.

Transformers 2 is in the same boat. Millions of people will buy tickets because they can switch off their brain and enjoy some puerile Michael Bay entertainment. Doesn't mean it's good.

On a side note, I hear that the Pirates of the Caribbean success has compelled Hollywood to remake the classic 1935 pirate movie Captain Blood. I hope to God they don't let Michael Bay get his hands on it. The passionate yet respectable Errol Flynn/Olivia de Havilland romance will be replaced with Megan Fox's sweaty cleavage, every sinking ship will explode like it was filled with C4, and the black servants will talk in 21st century street slang.

More accurately what I am saying is:

I drink Bud Light because its cheap and it gets me drunk. But suddenly, this case of Bud Light starts tasting like the absolute worst Bud Light ever. So bad that I don't want to drink Bud Light anymore.

HOWEVER, people keep BUYING the Bud Light. And the company is making millions off of this shitty Bud Light. So it looks like I won't get my decent Bud Light anytime soon anymore. All shit, all the time!

Except some people ACTUALLY DO LIKE BUD LIGHT. I know it's crazy, but they do. You give them a good beer for free and say "try this, it's what beer should taste like" and they can't even stomach one sip. Call them what ever you want, but they are the majority.