"Transformers 2" is a horrible experience of unbearable leng

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Shannow

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I love the argument of "if you expected high cinema, you are wrong!!!"

We were not exopecting high fuckign cinema. What you cant get is that we expected to to be fucking insulkted with the lowest common demoniator of everything. What gets us is your argument of "I wanted big robots fighting!!" Thats fine, but expect a bit more from yourself. It was shit, it was way low brow, and it was made for idiots. yes, i said idiots. I am sorry. I can turn off my brain when i see something I want to, and I tried to here. But when I am bitch slapped by stupidity and bad acting and bad writing and bad direction SCENE AFTER SCENE AFTER SCENE, it gets to be much. And your attitude is why shit like this gets a 200 million dollar budget. That is the greatest insult to common fucking decency of all. Idiocracy was right, and you fall right inot that class.
 
Shannow said:
I love the argument of "if you expected high cinema, you are wrong!!!"

We were not exopecting high fuckign cinema. What you cant get is that we expected to to be fucking insulkted with the lowest common demoniator of everything. What gets us is your argument of "I wanted big robots fighting!!" Thats fine, but expect a bit more from yourself. It was shit, it was way low brow, and it was made for idiots. yes, i said idiots. I am sorry. I can turn off my brain when i see something I want to, and I tried to here. But when I am bitch slapped by stupidity and bad acting and bad writing and bad direction SCENE AFTER SCENE AFTER SCENE, it gets to be much. And your attitude is why shit like this gets a 200 million dollar budget. That is the greatest insult to common fucking decency of all. Idiocracy was right, and you fall right inot that class.
Again, you paid money to see this movie. You knew from reviews it was going to be horrid. You still went. You are as much to blame as those who only wanted KABLAM BOOM POW!
 

ElJuski

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Shakey said:
Shannow said:
I love the argument of "if you expected high cinema, you are wrong!!!"

We were not exopecting high fuckign cinema. What you cant get is that we expected to to be fucking insulkted with the lowest common demoniator of everything. What gets us is your argument of "I wanted big robots fighting!!" Thats fine, but expect a bit more from yourself. It was shit, it was way low brow, and it was made for idiots. yes, i said idiots. I am sorry. I can turn off my brain when i see something I want to, and I tried to here. But when I am bitch slapped by stupidity and bad acting and bad writing and bad direction SCENE AFTER SCENE AFTER SCENE, it gets to be much. And your attitude is why shit like this gets a 200 million dollar budget. That is the greatest insult to common fucking decency of all. Idiocracy was right, and you fall right inot that class.
Again, you paid money to see this movie. You knew from reviews it was going to be horrid. You still went. You are as much to blame as those who only wanted KABLAM BOOM POW!
For sure I'm part of that 60 million. But the whole experience taught me to never play into that never again.

Also, @ Shawnacy: well yeah there are things right alongside T2 NOW. The ripple effects aren't immediate, son. And no doubt it won't be the apocolypse of cinema next Tuesday. It's just a woeful experience to see a portion of people on this forum and at large simply accept the terrible craftmanship of this film.

But you know what? Its tilting my windmill to suggest that we watch a good action movie or a good comedy instead of the most basic, masturbatory movies I've seen in a long time. Who needs story structure!? Dogs humping is totally funny. So let's just sedate ourselves with more robots humping Megan Fox.

And let's not forget the weekly Twilight read! I hear that book is everything everybody wanted too, unlike all those other boring ass books.
 
Oh, for the love of christ. You people are acting as if every single movie made prior to this decade were cinematic masterpieces, or even good.

There have always been, and will always be films made to appeal to you frustrated cinematography majors, and those that are made to appeal to a broad audience.

For every Star Wars, there are 20 Ice Pirates.

I'm just going to add that Roger Ebert is a pompus windbag. Those who can, do. Those who can't, become film critics.
 
It seems like there is always a whole lot of "don't read/watch this because of X." I wonder how people can expect people to appreciate good art without knowing where to look. If you want the residents of HF to broaden their horizons why not start a book of the month/movie of the week. Pushing people to experience new things seems a whole lot more productive than complaining that they don't.
 
Charlie Dont Surf said:
Bowielee said:
I'm just going to add that Roger Ebert is a pompus windbag. Those who can, do. Those who can't, become film critics.

You couldn't be more wrong. Now fuck along.
You know, I don't agree with Chuck often (or at least admit to it) but I both agree with this sentiment, and have long hoped that 'now fuck along' would enter the standard lexicon.
 
Ravenpoe said:
Charlie Dont Surf said:
Bowielee said:
I'm just going to add that Roger Ebert is a pompus windbag. Those who can, do. Those who can't, become film critics.

You couldn't be more wrong. Now smurf along.
You know, I don't agree with Chuck often (or at least admit to it) but I both agree with this sentiment, and have long hoped that 'now smurf along' would enter the standard lexicon.
Yea, don't mess with Ebert. He's a damn good writer, and not nearly as pompus as other film critics. He gives good reviews to good action/sci-fi/nerdy films. While I hardly agree with him all the time, he's much more open to non-artsy films than 99% of critics.
 
Just got back from it.

Quite possibly the worst over 20 million dollar budget movie I have ever seen.

I wasn't expecting high-film. I expected some sort of continuity. I expected a basic amount of plot. I expected no mixture of day/evening shots in the same scene.
No one cared who made this movie.
No one gave a damn.
It was made for the lowest common denominator. It was made for people who seriously just want to laugh at robots who acted "black" and dogs who had humped.
Honestly, I expected it to be bad. I did. It was beyond bad. It made Wolverine look like Shakespeare.
I am concerned that so many kids sat in the audience, learned that it's cool to call others "pussies", and "bitches", but I was even more dismayed that no one was bothered by it. That is was just all "good family fun". That bothers me more than the sloppy, careless filmmaking.
Personally, I think it just represented what our society wants. Which, in my humble opinion, is a constant stream of shit that allows for the least amount of brain activity.

For the record, I know many of you won't agree, and I know there is a raging battle between groups here. I don't think you are stupid if you liked it, I don't think you are an idiot. I think you are just a regular person. Most people will like this film.
So, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
We can just agree to disagree an move on.
 
Espy said:
For the record, I know many of you won't agree, and I know there is a raging battle between groups here. I don't think you are stupid if you liked it, I don't think you are an idiot. I think you are just a regular person. Most people will like this film.
So, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
We can just agree to disagree an move on.
Most adult thing I've seen here so far.
 
Krisken said:
Espy said:
For the record, I know many of you won't agree, and I know there is a raging battle between groups here. I don't think you are stupid if you liked it, I don't think you are an idiot. I think you are just a regular person. Most people will like this film.
So, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
We can just agree to disagree an move on.
Most adult thing I've seen here so far.
Agreed, and I posted in this thread previously :bush:
 
SO, tonight I drove into the city to celebrate my buddy's birthday. I get there, I find out that everyone's decided to see Transformers in Imax at West Ed. Awesome. They even had my ticket already. So, I've seen Revenge of the Fallen.

It was singularly the worst movie I've ever seen, dollar for dollar. I had no expectations. None. It managed to torpedo well below my non-existent expectations.

I can't even begin to describe how upset I was being there. I've never actually been insulted by a movie before. This movie was the equivalent of watching someone slap my mother around. That's how I felt being there. If I ever in my many years (hopefully) left on this planet end up being near Michael Bay, I am going to ask him for the 17.50 my friend payed for my ticket.

It's unimaginably terrible.
 
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Shannow said:
It was shit, it was way low brow, and it was made for idiots. yes, i said idiots. I am sorry. I can turn off my brain when i see something I want to, and I tried to here. But when I am bitch slapped by stupidity and bad acting and bad writing and bad direction SCENE AFTER SCENE AFTER SCENE, it gets to be much. And your attitude is why shit like this gets a 200 million dollar budget. That is the greatest insult to common fucking decency of all. Idiocracy was right, and you fall right inot that class.
This says everything I wanted to say
 

Shannow

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Shakey said:
Click on the green box in the upper left of the image. It expands.
Wow, I never knew that. I was always copying and pasting targets into a new tab, which was a pain in the ass. Thanks! :thumbsup:
 

ElJuski

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Actually, the recommendation thread is a fantastic idea. I'll get cracking on that after the weekend.
 
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Lally

ElJuski said:
Actually, the recommendation thread is a fantastic idea. I'll get cracking on that after the weekend.
While sounding excellent in theory, somehow I see a "Cultured Halforumites Recommend These Fine Works Of Art To You Base, Transformers-Sequel-Loving Buffoons" thread going over like a lead balloon. And what makes a "fine work of art" is so subjective, I fear that's what it'll turn into, despite anyone's best efforts.

Although setting up a book club with classic books available for free on the public domain (Gutenburg project, daily lit, etc) could be really fun...
 
Lally said:
"Cultured Halforumites Recommend These Fine Works Of Art To You Base, Transformers-Sequel-Loving Buffoons"
If it's put forth like that, then of course it's not going to go over well. We're obviously capable of having a decent discussion on this forum, otherwise this place never would have made it.

Personally I like checking out smaller films that didn't get big releases. There's just so many of them it's easy for a good one to slip past. It doesn't even have to be considered a "fine work of art". Just something that most people might not normally look at. It would of course be nice if it didn't suck donkey balls, but whatever.
 
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Lally

Shakey said:
Lally said:
"Cultured Halforumites Recommend These Fine Works Of Art To You Base, Transformers-Sequel-Loving Buffoons"
If it's put forth like that, then of course it's not going to go over well. We're obviously capable of having a decent discussion on this forum, otherwise this place never would have made it.
Then I don't understand how it's different from the forum itself. I have always regarded this community as a place where we recommend neat stuff to each other.

Shakey said:
Personally I like checking out smaller films that didn't get big releases. There's just so many of them it's easy for a good one to slip past. It doesn't even have to be considered a "fine work of art". Just something that most people might not normally look at. It would of course be nice if it didn't suck donkey balls, but whatever.
And that's the problem. Who decides that? As this thread shows better than any, there is a great disparity in the opinions on what sucks donkey balls and what doesn't. So, that's why I fear it will turn into a really snarky discussion as everyone tries to recommend things THEY think are awesome.
 

ElJuski

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It don't have to be done pompously. And also, what makes fine art isn't always so subjective; there's plenty of reasons something is aesthetically a masterpiece. You don't have to like something, but you can appreciate something. For instance, Jane Austen. I hate every single one of her works that I read, but no doubt she is one of the biggest fuels to Feminism writing (not to mention her work with Free Indirect Discourse! O__O )

It doesn't have to be what you think is like, AWESOME!, but having a good discussion on artistic merits and aesthetes would be pretty exciting, for once.
 
Lally said:
Shakey said:
Lally said:
"Cultured Halforumites Recommend These Fine Works Of Art To You Base, Transformers-Sequel-Loving Buffoons"
If it's put forth like that, then of course it's not going to go over well. We're obviously capable of having a decent discussion on this forum, otherwise this place never would have made it.
Then I don't understand how it's different from the forum itself. I have always regarded this community as a place where we recommend neat stuff to each other.

Shakey said:
Personally I like checking out smaller films that didn't get big releases. There's just so many of them it's easy for a good one to slip past. It doesn't even have to be considered a "fine work of art". Just something that most people might not normally look at. It would of course be nice if it didn't suck donkey balls, but whatever.
And that's the problem. Who decides that? As this thread shows better than any, there is a great disparity in the opinions on what sucks donkey balls and what doesn't. So, that's why I fear it will turn into a really snarky discussion as everyone tries to recommend things THEY think are awesome.
I've seen the forums manage to have a decent discussion about what they think is awesome. Specially in suggestion threads such as "you tube" threads. Our Tranformers thread just turned out to be one of the bad ones.
 
Shawnacy said:
I've seen the forums manage to have a decent discussion about what they think is awesome. Specially in suggestion threads such as "you tube" threads. Our Tranformers thread just turned out to be one of the bad ones.
Movies, music, religion, and politics. Those seem to be the top four taken by many (myself included often times) to be a "I'm right, you're wrong".
 
Lally said:
And that's the problem. Who decides that? As this thread shows better than any, there is a great disparity in the opinions on what sucks donkey balls and what doesn't. So, that's why I fear it will turn into a really snarky discussion as everyone tries to recommend things THEY think are awesome.
Whoever feels like stepping up to do it. I agree that everyone throwing out recommendations would be a mess. If Juski wants to do it, he can make the suggestions. Toss up a thread "Juski's movie(or book) of the week(or month) - insert title of the movie/book". Discussion hopefully ensues. If it turns in to another pissing contest than let it die.

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ElJuski said:
It doesn't have to be what you think is like, AWESOME!, but having a good discussion on artistic merits and aesthetes would be pretty exciting, for once.
That's exactly what I was looking for.
 
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