"Transformers 2" is a horrible experience of unbearable leng
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I just hope Public Enemies will be a good movie. There needs to be some big movie redemption this summer.
I'm going to see it because the first one entertained me, as I'm thinking the second one will entertain me. In other words, I don't think it was shit, and just because you have a concensus here that you didn't like it doesn't change my personal opinion. The job of movies is to entertain me, if it has done so, it is a good movie.DarkAudit said:
That makes a movie good to me. If I leave the theater and don't feel like my money has just been stolen, then yes, I do want more of the same because I LIKED it.
That's your prerogative. And not the same as some of the other posts that are of the "seeing it just to spite the forum" type.Bowielee said:
I admit to not seeing the first. I was excited about it, right up until the news leaked that the robots were more of an afterthought. The "more of the same, but worse" quality of the second one, combined with blistering reviews from the *geek* sites, make me want to run far away from the sequel.
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I just saw it and I enjoyed it. Whenever they play the original Transformers movie on those TV screens in video stores I always stop to watch. Why? Because it's fun. I'm not going to pretend that it's some masterpiece of the form or that it isn't flawed, but dammit I just have so much fun watching these movies. And Transformers 2 was definitely fun. Whether or not Michael Bay is a hack is irrelevant. He is what he is. I have accepted this. And once again he has richly entertained me. Does that make me a drooling, lowest-common-denominator simpleton with no taste? Whatever. It's a movie. See it or don't.
I think I shed a single tear when Optimus Prime [spoiler:1e3vo4xv]combines with Jetfire at the end[/spoiler:1e3vo4xv]. So awesome.
I think I shed a single tear when Optimus Prime [spoiler:1e3vo4xv]combines with Jetfire at the end[/spoiler:1e3vo4xv]. So awesome.
Obviously you didn't watch the movie. It's stated quite clearly that any technology that was there were remnants of when intelligence was still abound and the only machines left were operated by having been taught how to by the previous generation, though as each generation got dumber, each machine fell further and further into ruination. So yeah.Shawnacy said:
I think you're reading way too much into, the vitriol is that a movie about big fighting robots turned into a blurry mash of metal and teen angst drama. That's it, not whatever you're taking it as.Krisken said:
I was referring to what was on TV/Movies during Idiocracy, if you remember. I'll pass on "OW MY BALLS XII" because people like to see shit explode vs good cinema.Krisken said:
rly: Nothing wrong with enjoying a bad movie, when it's supposed to be a bad movie. When it's supposed to be a huge blockbuster action extraveganza? Yeah, takes a different meaning on all together.Krisken said:
Should be the title of this thread, seriously.fade said:
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Idiocracy's version of cinema was great: A bare ass farting for 90 minutes.
God, Idiocracy is the most true movie ever.
God, Idiocracy is the most true movie ever.
Hey, I just went to that expecting a bare ass farting and that's what I got. Not everything has to be "Date Movie", okay?Chummer said:
I don't know, man. Sometimes you just want to stare at an ass on the big screen for two hours without the farting sounds, you know? I mean, did the silent movie, Charlie Chapped Ass, teach us nothing?
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Oh, I'm not denying the *potential* for how stupid the human race can be. And I DO think that one day we'll get "Ow My Balls". But...I don't know; Idiocracy hit too hard and too, well, dumb, really, for me to stand behind it. It felt like a really bitter "This is for nerds to watch and say Fuck the Jocks!" kind of movie.
My concession: I absolutely love the beginning of the movie, and I love the whole "It's what plants crave" bit.
My concession: I absolutely love the beginning of the movie, and I love the whole "It's what plants crave" bit.
300 was trash, but we had that thread already. Tastes or or no tastes lining up, Ebert is unquestionably a great reviewer even if you don't agree with him 100% of the time(I don't!).Gruebeard said:
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It will be. It's being directed by a fantastic director with an IQ above an 8th grader. It has actual real actors in it, too. And there is absolutely no toy marketing tie-in!sixpackshaker said:
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen...
dude probably has me on ignore. now he sees what happens when you don't listen to me. :toocool: :toocool:
dude probably has me on ignore. now he sees what happens when you don't listen to me. :toocool: :toocool:
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Yes, really. Look around osmetime. Look at all the shit thats ranked high on tv. Stupid ass reality shows. Crap with Paris Hilton.ElJuski said:
Wii games for the dumb sale more than anything. jeeze they are even making games that play themselves if you find them to hard.
Peopel eat mroe fast food than anything because a smiling clown talks funny to you.
"It's got what plants need!" "Electrolytes!"
high grossing movies that seriously are just bare asses farting on a screen for 90 minutes. Transformers 2 is this. Im not saying all cinema has to be The Godfather but its sad to see that now-a-days movies that show robots pissing on peopel make more than a film that makes you actually think.
it all comes down to pleasing the lowest common denominator in society. The Wal-Mart trailer trash generation. I actually saw a weather report where they stopped to explain what the fucking percentages meant to the audiance.
The world is overrun with idiots. And the peopel who makes the money know they need to maek sure thier products are available and understood by those idiots.
The majority of people are sheep.
I hate to sound cynical. And hoep the future does head more towards some sort of idealized Star Trek society but i highly doubt it.
Do I think everyone will become idiots? No. But I do think there will eventually be 2 distinct classes/types of people. As in an even bigger gap than there is now. The smart who lead the dumb. Those living in the towers whuile the little-better-than-slaves go about thier mindless aimless jobs.
Basicly like the Idiocracy movie but with actual smart people living in the background.
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Now look everyone. Calm down. You aren't an idiot for watching Transformers, I myself have decided to go see it since it looks SO bad. Everyone has different tastes and thats fine.
I think the thing that is different about this, and what might be upsetting some people is the following: Many of us like "bad" movies. We watch them, we laugh at them, etc. The catch is, is that *most* of those bad movies? Lower budgets, often non-professional actors, or often stupid german writers who can't write english dialogue, etc. Things that mean *BAD* movie right off the bat.
Transformers has the following at it's disposal:
1) One of the worlds foremost action directors. Like him or not, he is.
2) A easy comic book/tv show mythology to give it direction.
3) 200 MILLION dollars (think about that, just for a second, thats enough money to... probably feed a few African nations) to play with
4) Some of the best VFX houses in the world working with them
5) A reasonably solid cast.
6) One pretty solid writer and one not so solid writer. 1 out of 2 ain't that bad.
Thats a lot of good stuff going for it.
So when instead we get:
1) A poor action movie, where the action is hard to follow, everything is convoluted and the camera never sits still long enough for you to see what's happening.
2) According to many, no plot whatsoever.
3) Well, they spent that 200 mill. Thats for sure.
4) The VFX aren't poorly done... just overly done so that the robots look the same and are super busy. Poor art direction. For the money they could have done better.
5) Horrible acting.
6) See #2
, well people get upset when something that should be so easy to pull off, a giant popcorn flick, turns into drivel. We don't get upset when Uwe Boll shits out a movie, because he has nothing going for him, he has no way to put out a GOOD movie. So why get upset?
Does that make sense?
Was better than the first one.
The first Transformers I would call decent at best where as this one actually gets a good in my opinion. It was actually very enjoyable to watch and if people like Charlie Dont Surf with their movie critic superiority complex can't accept that some people like different fucking movies then they are the idiots. By the way, 300 was fucking awesome!
The first Transformers I would call decent at best where as this one actually gets a good in my opinion. It was actually very enjoyable to watch and if people like Charlie Dont Surf with their movie critic superiority complex can't accept that some people like different fucking movies then they are the idiots. By the way, 300 was fucking awesome!
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Never said I could spell worth a shit or not make typos.Shegokigo said:
I definitely accept that people like different fucking movies, trust me. This thread was just trying to help people not get burned. The buzz and even the stupid moronic movie bloggers that sucked 300's pulsating cock like it was gonna spit out $100 bills were all saying that this one sucked after praising the first one. My boy Ebert from the first post gave the first one three stars! Even the not hoity-toity critics that loved Transformers 1 were trashing this one. That's what I was trying to get across.HoboNinja said:
ElJuski
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Well, I don't have any statistics handy, but I can only imagine. We all deal with stupid people all the time. The bar can be set REAL low. I mean, take for instance, the boyfriend who "accidnetally" choke slammed a 2-year old too hard when they were rough housing (???). Now the local paper is talking about a dead 2 year old and a moronic boyfriend in custody. People can be hella dumb.Chummer said:
But, somehow, I'm actually optimistic. Forgiving, maybe? There's a lot of good out there, and a lot of smart people. It's not just dumbasses and intellectuphiles. I find it dubious that, just because there is a solid MTV generation, we're all going to sit and watch an ass on the screen for an hour and a half.
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god whatever charlie why you gotta keep up your schtick all the time godCharlie Dont Surf said:
I need to go into Houston and take some of my African American friends to see this, just so they can yell "THAT'S RACIST" when the two crunk autobots start talking.
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Funnily how I went to the first Transformers movie expecting a good robot beat ´em up and got almost nothing but shaky shots, and I was forced into the cinema by a mate to watch "Teminator: Salvation", and it ended up being eeverything transformers could be.
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Terminator sucked ass.JCM said:
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I agree, but it did work as a "good robot beat ´em up", as I said.
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Terminator Salvation was pretty poorly shot and any good that was there was mercilessly destroyed in the editing. The plot is also completely terrible. However, I wouldn't say it's aggressively bad, just mindless and stupid. Not really worth anyone's time or attention.
Transformers is aggressively bad.
Also, not related, but my favorite defense of really terrible movies like Transformers (other than "I wanted robots fighting and I got robots fighting!") is "just turn your brain off" because it implies that you have to be stupid in order to enjoy the movie and that is being claimed as an asset.
On the "I wanted robots fighting and I got robots fighting," that's such a bad way to defend any movie. You might as well say "I wanted flashing colors for at least 90 minutes and that's exactly what I got, so I wasn't disappointed!" What did the movie actually do well? If you found the action scenes truly exciting and entertaining, then just say so.
No one has the conviction to try to actually defend their taste. It's fine if you liked the movie! Seriously, that's fine, the same things don't appeal to us, but if we're going to have a discussion, you need to participate in the discussion and don't just dismiss any dissenting opinion by saying, "All I wanted robots fighting and that's what I got, so I wasn't disappointed."
It seems to me that saying "I wasn't disappointed" is very weak praise.
Transformers is aggressively bad.
Also, not related, but my favorite defense of really terrible movies like Transformers (other than "I wanted robots fighting and I got robots fighting!") is "just turn your brain off" because it implies that you have to be stupid in order to enjoy the movie and that is being claimed as an asset.
On the "I wanted robots fighting and I got robots fighting," that's such a bad way to defend any movie. You might as well say "I wanted flashing colors for at least 90 minutes and that's exactly what I got, so I wasn't disappointed!" What did the movie actually do well? If you found the action scenes truly exciting and entertaining, then just say so.
No one has the conviction to try to actually defend their taste. It's fine if you liked the movie! Seriously, that's fine, the same things don't appeal to us, but if we're going to have a discussion, you need to participate in the discussion and don't just dismiss any dissenting opinion by saying, "All I wanted robots fighting and that's what I got, so I wasn't disappointed."
It seems to me that saying "I wasn't disappointed" is very weak praise.
Nope, here's what a good popcorn TS film would be = 5 min introduction, 90 min giant robots kicking eachother in the face, credits...
THIS.IS.THE.INTERNET.
would kick you down a well, but there are none around... pls find nearest well and throw yourself in, 10x.
Shannow said:
THIS.IS.THE.INTERNET.
would kick you down a well, but there are none around... pls find nearest well and throw yourself in, 10x.
Wait, isn't that's what we've been saying all along?!
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