"Transformers 2" is a horrible experience of unbearable leng
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Hanging up the brain when it comes to Sci-Fi physics is one thing, but to be insulted with bad acting, story, special effects (well spfx that is too fast to notice wtf is going on), editing and directing, and racism is completely different things.
There's no discussion here. Many have tried, such as Espy and (eventually) CDS. Too many other assholes come into this thread and start declaring everyone who disagrees with them stupid, or tells them to fuck off. *That* is what I complained about at the beginning of the thread, and it hasn't stopped. I understand your point - I even agree with it to a point - but you can't honestly expect people to offer a serious defenses of a movie while others are raining down insults on them.Kissinger said:
The people who gleefully put down their money time after time to go watch shit, when they know damn well that it's shit? Damn right they're going to catch hell for it. There's a point where "mindless fun" turned into "too fucking stupid for words". And too many people continue to lap that up. I'll say it again, it's because of those people, because of YOU, that Hollywood is a steaming pile of hotspur these days. If Transformers 3 was 95 minutes of Optimus humping a washing machine and nothing else, many of you would still pay a premium to see it at the first midnight showing.
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Steven Soderburgin
Nah, if Hollywood is a steaming pile of hotspur (a claim with which I don't entirely agree), it's because of marketing and not the victims of marketing. Those people play their part, certainly, but so much attention is paid to opening weekend box office that the quest to get that box office can sacrifice everything else.DarkAudit said:
The biggest movies of today are basically B-movies with A-budgets and that is because of marketing.
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Just because people like it doesn't make the film "not a pile of shit".
I like plenty of bad films but I'm not so into my own opinion that I believe the films are actually quality films.
I like plenty of bad films but I'm not so into my own opinion that I believe the films are actually quality films.
Yes, but you're arguing with an opinion. No one is telling you that you should see it, and no one is pretending it is something it isn't. There comes a point where people stop sounding like knowledgeable critics and start sounding like intolerant zealots.DarkAudit said:
One mans crap is another mans castle.
When reviews start coming in from the corners of the internet that should be seriously gung-ho about this movie, and even they are going "fuck this fucking piece of shit film", you'd think that people would take the hint.
But no, there's a strong sense of defiance here. Shit be damned they're going. So the movie makes more money than it deserves to and just serves to encourage the studios to pump out more of the same.
Am I intolerant of the people who crank this out, AND the audiences that continue to lap it up?
DAMN RIGHT I AM!!
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But no, there's a strong sense of defiance here. Shit be damned they're going. So the movie makes more money than it deserves to and just serves to encourage the studios to pump out more of the same.
Am I intolerant of the people who crank this out, AND the audiences that continue to lap it up?
DAMN RIGHT I AM!!
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Now if some one would do a good Robotech/Macross movie...
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GeneralOrder24
OK, here's my honest to god review of transfomers
First five minutes: AUTOBOTS! FIGHT!
next hour: Boy and girl shitty relationship drama, zany parents, Zany autobots, the absulote pussification of the decepticons, except soundwave, who along with MAD Cat will GET GADGET NEXT TIME!
next 45 minutes: occasional tranformers mixed with boy girl shitty relationship drama, THE JESUS arrives and makes it tolerable.
rest of movie: SUPER FUN ACTION TIME peppered with groanworth shitty boy girl relationship drama, zany autobots, and zany parents.
First five minutes: AUTOBOTS! FIGHT!
next hour: Boy and girl shitty relationship drama, zany parents, Zany autobots, the absulote pussification of the decepticons, except soundwave, who along with MAD Cat will GET GADGET NEXT TIME!
next 45 minutes: occasional tranformers mixed with boy girl shitty relationship drama, THE JESUS arrives and makes it tolerable.
rest of movie: SUPER FUN ACTION TIME peppered with groanworth shitty boy girl relationship drama, zany autobots, and zany parents.
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Why are we still having this argument if you are okay with people having their own taste in movies? Seems like you're okay with it, so long as they agree with yours.Kissinger said:
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Everyone has a right to like what they like, but I have to say I totally identify with DarkAudit's rage at/intolerance of those who support the stupid movie industry. Even though I know it's not going to help, I still get frustrated when stupid and/or poorly made movies do well.
How does one determine what films are "poorly made?". Is it a lack of decent acting? Is it a poorly written script? Is it the overuse of special effects? I'm sure if you ask anyone at Industrial Light and Magic why they churned out a piece of crap like Transformers 2, they probably will want to punch you in the mouth.
Believe it or not there are movies out there that are so stupid, so dumb, and so awful that most audiences agree. When films like "Date Movie" or "Meet the Spartans" came out they were #1 for one week... then they dropped to like #8.
I'm about to see Transformers 2 in an hour or so. I'm not expecting Citizen Kane. I'm expecting a huge budget episode of Tranformers from the 1980s. Has anyone watched the show? It's a half hour toy commercial. If you walk into Tranformers 2 expecting art, how come I'm the "idiot" for going because I want to see giant robots and explosions?
I know there are good films out there. And I understand why we want to see more of them. I also have good news for you. There will always be "good" films. Just because the studios are encouraged to put out big budget explosion films, doesn't mean we won't see any more artsy films. Writers and Directors have just as much desire to make a decent film as we do seeing one. They want to be creative. They WANT to make a film that makes them stand out. Just because Michael Bay has stuck to explosions, doesn't mean directors like Tim Burton are going to follow suit because that's where the money is.
You guys want to see a good movie? Find your local indie theater. Check out those titles. I guarantee the special effects won't BE the film, so it's entirely up to the script to pull the film through. If you want a recent suggestion, go see "Moon". The special effects consist of models. Honest to gawd "I put this together with my hands" models. When that film is out on DVD, I'm picking it up. Because I like "good" movies too.
But by gawd I'm seeing Tranformers 2 today. And I'm going to cheer when something blows up and a racist robot does something racist.
Believe it or not there are movies out there that are so stupid, so dumb, and so awful that most audiences agree. When films like "Date Movie" or "Meet the Spartans" came out they were #1 for one week... then they dropped to like #8.
I'm about to see Transformers 2 in an hour or so. I'm not expecting Citizen Kane. I'm expecting a huge budget episode of Tranformers from the 1980s. Has anyone watched the show? It's a half hour toy commercial. If you walk into Tranformers 2 expecting art, how come I'm the "idiot" for going because I want to see giant robots and explosions?
I know there are good films out there. And I understand why we want to see more of them. I also have good news for you. There will always be "good" films. Just because the studios are encouraged to put out big budget explosion films, doesn't mean we won't see any more artsy films. Writers and Directors have just as much desire to make a decent film as we do seeing one. They want to be creative. They WANT to make a film that makes them stand out. Just because Michael Bay has stuck to explosions, doesn't mean directors like Tim Burton are going to follow suit because that's where the money is.
You guys want to see a good movie? Find your local indie theater. Check out those titles. I guarantee the special effects won't BE the film, so it's entirely up to the script to pull the film through. If you want a recent suggestion, go see "Moon". The special effects consist of models. Honest to gawd "I put this together with my hands" models. When that film is out on DVD, I'm picking it up. Because I like "good" movies too.
But by gawd I'm seeing Tranformers 2 today. And I'm going to cheer when something blows up and a racist robot does something racist.
Yo I can tell you where you can find some awesome minstrel shows tooShawnacy said:
I love racist jokes and can laugh at holocaust gags and whatever the fuck. But I find it less funny when the stuff like in Transformers and Jeff Dunham is earnestly stupid and racist.Shawnacy said:
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Steven Soderburgin
Bread and circusesShawnacy said:
I had a sudden urge to post this awesome commercial:
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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiHsxQJ9ZOo:8n5fryyb][/youtube:8n5fryyb]
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Kitty Sinatra
There's still fembots.
BananaHands
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Way to bring 'Blackface' into the future. With robots!
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There are two big-eared twin robots who are bumbling buffoons. One even has a gold tooth.Cajungal said:
Also, they can't read.BananaHands said:
Thats what's kind of blowing my mind about it.ElJuski said:
No one who has seen it it bothered by it?
One of the kids who works for me saw it last night and he had no idea what I was talking about when I explained why this was racist. He didn't get why them looking like monkey's was racist either.
Kids today.
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