What offends you?

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You know Gas, it's not that certain views are or aren't favored over others. It's not that some people are or aren't easily offended. It's that basically, you want to be a complete and utter asshole, and not get called on it. Maybe you think that makes you a strong individualist - since you seem to refer to people who disagree as being a "clique". Perhaps it's even your way of trying to stand out. But it doesn't make you interesting, it just makes you unpleasant.
 

GasBandit

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You know Gas, it's not that certain views are or aren't favored over others. It's not that some people are or aren't easily offended. It's that basically, you want to be a complete and utter asshole, and not get called on it. Maybe you think that makes you a strong individualist - since you seem to refer to people who disagree as being a "clique". Perhaps it's even your way of trying to stand out. But it doesn't make you interesting, it just makes you unpleasant.
Flattery will get you nowhere. The only time I used the word "clique" was when someone made reference to my being "relevant," which was a fancy way of attempting an exclusion - which is what a clique does.

Yes, I'm unpleasant. I'm the first to own up to it... but you know what else is frequently (almost USUALLY) unpleasant?

The cold, bare, unskewed truth.

YES, it is my right to be an asshole. But it is not my right to make you associate with me. If you feel so strongly about it, don't associate with me - or, if you REALLY feel like I'm beyond the pale, report my posts and get me banned. Those are all perfectly normal responses. But when you start throwing around abused terms like "hatespeech" or acting like I have a legal obligation to not be offensive, that makes you worse than an asshole - it makes you the warm, velvet glove of crowdsourced authoritarian intolerance.
 
Flattery will get you nowhere. The only time I used the word "clique" was when someone made reference to my being "relevant," which was a fancy way of attempting an exclusion - which is what a clique does.

Yes, I'm unpleasant. I'm the first to own up to it... but you know what else is frequently (almost USUALLY) unpleasant?

The cold, bare, unskewed truth.

YES, it is my right to be an asshole. But it is not my right to make you associate with me. If you feel so strongly about it, don't associate with me - or, if you REALLY feel like I'm beyond the pale, report my posts and get me banned. Those are all perfectly normal responses. But when you start throwing around abused terms like "hatespeech" or acting like I have a legal obligation to not be offensive, that makes you worse than an asshole - it makes you the warm, velvet glove of crowdsourced authoritarian intolerance.
Of all the internet "conservatives" I run into, you are far, far from the least tolerable. FAR.
 

GasBandit

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FreeRepublic is pretty conservative.
Pretty "conservative." It's basically the dark mirror of moveon.org: restless, irritated, not-quite-thought out political hackery.

These guys think they're conservative... they're all about individual rights, until someone else isn't living up to their standard of morality, and then all of a sudden "we need to ban the gays."

The litmus test for me, is when someone claims to be a conservative based on social issues, or at the very least aren't willing to let go of their social "conservatism" hangups for the sake of fiscal conservatism.

I suppose you could say there are professionally offended right-wingers, too. Most of them wield their religion like a cudgel.
 

fade

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might want to study harder fade.
I did before I posted that, in fact. I looked up the definitions of "racism", "racist", "bigot", and "bigotry" in the M-W online dictionary. Not one of those applies to accusing another party of making claims on the basis of race. It may be wrong, factually incorrect, annoying, rude behavior. But not racist.
 

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lol @ comparing freerepublic to moveon.org
STFU Charlie

I did before I posted that, in fact. I looked up the definitions of "racism", "racist", "bigot", and "bigotry" in the M-W online dictionary. Not one of those applies to accusing another party of making claims on the basis of race. It may be wrong, factually incorrect, annoying, rude behavior. But not racist.
Rush Limbaugh will no doubt be relieved to hear of his internet vindication.
 
Pretty "conservative." It's basically the dark mirror of moveon.org: restless, irritated, not-quite-thought out political hackery.

These guys think they're conservative... they're all about individual rights, until someone else isn't living up to their standard of morality, and then all of a sudden "we need to ban the gays."

The litmus test for me, is when someone claims to be a conservative based on social issues, or at the very least aren't willing to let go of their social "conservatism" hangups for the sake of fiscal conservatism.

I suppose you could say there are professionally offended right-wingers, too. Most of them wield their religion like a cudgel.
You should read the Canadian version: freedominion.ca. While they're fighting the good fight regarding internet censorship, they've driven away nearly every person who read the site and they've been reduced to maybe a dozen posters. Almost sad.
 
I will check out the Canadian version while I'm not at work since I don't want to get flagged for looking at a racist website

edit: forgot I had a smartphone, one sec

edit2: took me two minutes to find a post saying all muslims should go back to Saudi Arabia
 
I will check out the Canadian version while I'm not at work since I don't want to get flagged for looking at a racist website

edit: forgot I had a smartphone, one sec

edit2: took me two minutes to find a post saying all muslims should go back to Saudi Arabia
Two minutes? That's pretty slow, Charlie.

What color is your smartphone?

:awesome:
 
So would you say that the statement "our affirmative action quotas are not met, and we should hire this less qualified person because he's black" is one that indicates a racist agenda? Or what about "he understands the plight of the underclass better because he's black" then? These are common items that get a pass because they favor "progressive" thought processes.

But to put it in simpler terms for you: Limbaugh was calling the sports media racist.

The fact of the matter is that the term hate speech, in addition to describing makare's book-delved definition, is also used as an accusation that the accuser wants to have so much gravity from the mere accusation in and of itself to silence dissent and end discussion.

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Put this off so I could have enough time to sit and compose a real post. Also, IBL.

What offends me?

-People who set their minds to "read-only." Things change. If you are unwilling or unable to adjust your views to match the ebb and flow of reality, you seriously need to die so there will be more resources left for the rest of us.

-The entitlement over-justifiers. The ones who take an extra cupcake at lunch because the cat pissed in their shoes that morning, or who take up 4 parking spaces because they don't want anyone else to park too close. You don't deserve it, now cut it out.

-People who latch onto eye-rollingly paranoid "conspiracies." For instance, there are people who are upset that February was chosen as Black History month because (and I'm not making this up) the Black Man gets short-changed since it is the shortest month of the year. Also, Holocaust deniers. It happened, no matter how much you might wish otherwise. Sometimes things just happen that you don't like but can't change, possibly perpetrated by your own ancestors. Deal with it.

-Folks who deliberately avoid being helpful in order to further their own agenda ("Rockefellering"). I can't stress this enough. Too many people/corporations/groups are sitting on piles of products/data/research that could be of great benefit to Mankind, but they willfully ignore it because it would ruin their profit margins, and they actively discourage others from making these advancements through copyright/patent legislation, the purchase/sellout of competitors, etc. As another example, the US Government approved a program ("HAMP") to help ease the mortgage crisis. We looked around, but what was surprising was that, even though we qualified, no banks were actually offering it (because it isn't all that profitable). The program exists, but there's nothing saying that a bank is required to offer it, so of course nobody does.

-Rule-breakers. And I don't mean a guy that runs a stop sign now and again. I mean people who go through all the trouble of setting up and agreeing to the rules for something, but then don't follow them. This includes everything from the kid on the playground who claims you keep missing him and people who use HAXies in LAN tournaments all the way up to the fact that Congress can do all the insider trading it wants without penalty. This whole "do as I say, not as I do" thing didn't fly when I was ten, and it don't fly now, either.

I'll happily rant some more if the spirit moves me.

--Patrick
 
Idiots. Idiots offend me. Case in point?

http://thedailywh.at/2011/11/29/the-interpipes-are-leaking-of-the-day-27/

This is a news cast with the attorney's general office who warn of the dangers of those who display the pedobear sticker. A highlight of the news story is when she says pedophiles dress in the pedobear suit to lure young children for molestation. Really? Pedophiles dress up as a character that blatantly promotes its love for young children? How out of touch is the media and city officials?

And it was not just one news outlet (New Mexico listed above). Here's one from Tulsa
 
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