The Kickstarter Bonanza - Everything Edition

Reverent-one

Reverent-one

Honest question, would anyone who has a problem with the PA kickstarter also have been upset if they had just sold early access passes to their new podcast through their website? Or flat out put them behind a paywall? Basically is the problem that they're monetizing a podcast, or monetizing a podcast via kickstarter?
 
Chad Sexington

Chad Sexington

Reverent-one said:
Honest question, would anyone who has a problem with the PA kickstarter also have been upset if they had just sold early access passes to their new podcast through their website? Or flat out put them behind a paywall? Basically is the problem that they're monetizing a podcast, or monetizing a podcast via kickstarter?
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I feel like Kickstarter has a lot to do with it, just because of the way they're selling it. It's less "We shouldn't fund podcasts!" and more "Seriously? No one's buying this 'extra cost' to insert a microphone in front of Jerry and Mike when you have done it for literally years prior."

Truthfully I'm a huge PA fan. I never liked the podcast (or the episodes of PATV where they made the comic) because I have no interest in that process, but I fucking love the comic and I've travelled to PAX Prime twice.

I take zero issue with the KS as far as, hey, let's make money from people who want our shit. I take issue as far as "Let's lie obfuscate some facts about why."
 
Frank

Frank

The stretch goals are mind numbingly shitty. 75000 dollars? We'll load some videos onto the USBs for people who paid 55 dollars or more!
 
Chad Sexington

Chad Sexington

Frank said:
The stretch goals are mind numbingly shitty. 75000 dollars? We'll load some videos onto the USBs for people who paid 55 dollars or more!
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It's expensive work, putting videos on USB sticks. You have to click, but also drag. And not one after the other, no, at the same time. You think anyone can learn to do that? Hell no, that's a specialist you gotta hire.
 
Frank

Frank

http://www.firstshowing.net/2013/za...-film-lands-josh-gad-and-gets-full-financing/

Apparently Zach Braff's Kickstarter funded movie just got corporate financing and the Kickstarter campaign was a pawn in getting real money to make his movie. Really keeping that indie spirit alive.

Nice little quote from Braff during an interview while he was doing the Kickstarter campaign.

MN: Have any industry types who’d rejected you before come and said, ‘You know, maybe we were too hasty. Can we get back in?'

ZB: Of course. It’s always like that for me. It was like that with 'Garden State. It was like that with the play I did a few years ago (the dialogue-heavy comedy 'All New People,' which played off-Broadway and then on the West End). People who were cold suddenly are hot after it comes out.

MN: Would you take any of their money now?

ZB: I think that would be in bad taste for all the people who are backing this. It wouldn’t be in the spirit of the thing.
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Unless he refunds the Kickstarter, which there is no sign of yet, what a disingenuous fuck.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Wow, what a fucking douchebag. I was thinking of backing it, but not anymore. I'd also thought about finally watching Garden State. Fuck him.
 
Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

ThatNickGuy said:
Wow, what a fucking douchebag. I was thinking of backing it, but not anymore. I'd also thought about finally watching Garden State. Fuck him.
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Garden State REALLY spoke to me when I was 17 years old. Take that as a huge insult or mild insult however you will, haha.

But yeah, this is really scummy.
 
Frank

Frank

Update!

Dear All,

The movie trade publication "The Hollywood Reporter" released an article today with a lot of wrong information about our project and I need to clear up some of what they said. I seem to get called a "douchebag" quite often these days. And that's fine; not everyone's gonna root for my success... but I can't sit by while my fans get wrong facts.

This is a whole new way of making a movie. There is lots of discourse on Earth about it. Some of it is very misinformed. Let's clear it up so you have it from my mouth. I will tell you the truth. As David Mamet's writes in his masterpiece, "Glengarry Glen Ross": The truth is the easiest thing to remember:

The Truth:

— The story out there about the movie being fully funded by some financier is wrong.

I have said on here and in every interview I've done on this project that the film would be fully financed from 3 sources:

My Kickstarter Backers
My own money
Pre-Selling foreign theatrical distribution.

Those three amounts will bring us to a budget of around 5 to 6 million dollars.

— Nothing about the making of this movie has changed. This movie is happening because backers funded it.

This film would not be happening without my backers. The traditional way is to have a financier put up the money and then sell the foreign rights. What I did, was to say to my fans, "If you and I provide the capital, we don't need some rich dude dictating how we make the movie; we can then go sell foreign distibution and we'll be all the way to our goal. Are you interested in that? So far 38,455 people have said yes.

— What happened today is that a financial company agreed to fill in the gap between what Kickstarter backers have funded and what I have put in, and what the movie will actually cost. Shooting could not happen without this.

When you pre-sell foreign distribution, you don't get that money for some time. So you need to go to a company to provide something called "Gap Financing". They are essentially a bank. Loaning us the "gap" between what we've raised together and what we need to actually make the movie. I have no idea where a 10 million dollar number came from but it is wrong and a lie.
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Bad reporting? Zach covering his tracks?

Sounds like Zach might've pissed off some folk in Hollywood and they are out to ruin his shit a little.

I'm afraid I was too eager to believe he was an underhanded scumbag just based on how unbearable I found Garden State.
 
Gusto

Gusto

The PA Kickstarter makes me feel a little ooky but I want more podcasts from them and have got hours of enjoyment from listening to them. I gave the minimum amount to avoid the micropayment paywall, and can't really fault others for wanting to do the same.
 
Frank

Frank

Frank said:
Hey, do you like miniatures such as those used when playing a little D&D or various other tabletop RPGs? Do you like painting miniatures? Well, Reaper Miniatures is doing a Kickstarter for their Bones line of minis. High quality, unpainted plastic sculpts. For like 100 bucks you get 132 miniatures and many options for expanding what you get (including cheap paint and carrying cases). It's really the most inexpensive means of getting miniatures I've ever seen.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...res-bones-an-evolution-of-gaming-min?ref=live

The vampire level pledge (100 bucks) gets you:



Every time they meet a stretch goal they keep adding to the 100 dollar level.
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Finally, my package is being delivered tomorrow after being held up by UPS for weeks. SO STOKED!

I got one of the vampire and just about every single add-on possible. It's just under a billion miniatures. Gonna make my Pathfinder crew help me paint them.
 
Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Frank said:
Finally, my package is being delivered tomorrow after being held up by UPS for weeks. SO STOKED!

I got one of the vampire and just about every single add-on possible. It's just under a billion miniatures. Gonna make my Pathfinder crew help me paint them.
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Are these things finally getting delivered?!!!! Can't wait to get mine!
 
Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Spike Lee is kickstarting his next indie movie, and if it doesn't get funded while fucking Veronica Mars* and Zach Braff exceeded theirs, I will scream


*I love Veronica Mars
 
Far

Far

Frank said:
Finally, my package is being delivered tomorrow after being held up by UPS for weeks. SO STOKED!

I got one of the vampire and just about every single add-on possible. It's just under a billion miniatures. Gonna make my Pathfinder crew help me paint them.
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Yeah I got an email saying they were coming on the 11th I think it was and the UPS tracker hasn't updated since. They said they had to take down their international container due to so error but I've yet to hear an update since.

I got vampire as well as a few sets of paint the carrying case and a larger dragon.

Edit: Oh shit, email says they are in Calgary!
 
Tress

Tress

Charlie Don't Surf said:
Spoken as someone that hasn't watched any of his documentary work or interviews on "Winning Time".

Oldboy's probably going to rule, though.
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I've seen the documentaries you are talking about. Wasn't impressed.

But since we're making assumptions, try this one on for size: if Spike Lee were white and/or more mainstream, you would hate him. He could make the exact same films frame for frame, and you would hate him.
 
Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Tress said:
I've seen the documentaries you are talking about. Wasn't impressed.

But since we're making assumptions, try this one on for size: if Spike Lee were white and/or more mainstream, you would hate him. He could make the exact same films frame for frame, and you would hate him.
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lol
 
Tress

Tress

I don't really believe that. I'm just tossing out stupid assumptions the same way you do to everyone else.
 
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