2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine
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GasBandit
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China’s Echoes of Russia’s Alternate Reality Intensify Around the World (Published 2022)
China’s officials and state media are increasingly parroting Russian propaganda organs on the war in Ukraine, undercutting U.S. and European diplomatic efforts, even after the killings in Bucha.
The lines are pretty much drawn.
When this shit finally boils over, it's going to be a hell of a chapter in the history books, if anybody is alive to print them.
The Russian Black Sea flagship, the Moskva, the ship involved in the Snake Island "Go fuck yourself, Russian warship" incident at the start of the war is apparently sinking after being successfully attacked. Or at the very least badly damaged. According to folk monitoring maritime channels, it's broadcasting sinking and SOS in morse.
GasBandit
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Ukraine predates the USSR, and predates Russia.
GasBandit
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I guess it's confirmed now.
apnews.com
Russia's damaged Black Sea flagship sinks in latest setback
The flagship of Russia’s Black Sea fleet sank after it was heavily damaged in the latest setback for Moscow’s invasion.
apnews.com
Conspiracy Theory Time: since neither side actually wants this to escalate to WWIII, the gassing in Mariupol went "unconfirmed". The sinking of the Moskva was actually aided by US/NATO troops and everyone involved on both sides knows full well it's the retaliation/punishment for the gas attack, but neither side can come out and actually say that, since it would mean the Cold War became Hot.
My take? No, but only because if Putin had evidence of direct US involvement in the war, he'd be blasting it from every avenue and using it force the US to mediate a resolution that lets Putin save face infront of his people, probably by sacrificing a lot of Ukrainian territory. Ukraine would be forced to comply, because the rest of NATO isn't going to keep supplying them for a war that could end NOW instead of when nukes start flying.
No, I suspect the Moskva suffered a USS Cole-style bombing that wasn't prevented because Russia doesn't have enough experienced navy men in that part of the world.
Dave
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It really doesn't matter. Both Russian and Chinese state media frame the war as a US & NATO war of aggression and that's what most of the people there believe. What ever makes you think they need proof to trumpet their bullshit from the highest mountain? Or to deny that they are the aggressors and are using genocidal tactics and committing mass rape, murder, and war crimes even though there is ample proof?
Well, they look like winners.
GasBandit
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Russians rounded up and executed 900 Ukrainian civilians.
Pride is a terrible monster. These soldiers rolled in thinking they would be welcomed as heroes, only to be treated like the invaders they are, and forced to retreat with thousands of their comrades dead.
This was the proper punishment in their mind, these were not people to them, but ungrateful animals that would only support their enemies. They had to die.
We need a change on this planet, because as long as we allow these types of people to fester and put pride above life, we will never stop killing each other.
This was the proper punishment in their mind, these were not people to them, but ungrateful animals that would only support their enemies. They had to die.
We need a change on this planet, because as long as we allow these types of people to fester and put pride above life, we will never stop killing each other.
Again?
Considering that France and Germany have been caught selling weapons to Russia despite embargos dating from the Crimea Invasion, I think a bunch of war prizes are the least of their worries.