[Rant] Minor Rant III: For a Few Hollers More

bhamv3

bhamv3

Client: "Hey, we've made some changes to your translation, and we'd like you to follow these changes for all translations in the future."

Us: "Sure, we'll do our best to take your suggestions on board. What changes did you make?"

Client: "We deleted all instances of the definite article 'the'."

Us: "Excuse me, what?"

Client: "Yeah, our reviewer, who studied for many years in the US, made the edits, and he said the definite article isn't necessary."

Us: "Excuse me, WHAT???"

Client: "So yeah, in the future, please make sure you don't use the definite article in any of your English translations for us."

Us: "EXCUSE ME, WHAT?!?!?"

So... guess who gets to give our client a grammar lesson today.
 
sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

I am having Murder By Death flashbacks where Peter Sellers was doing a racist send up of Charlie Chan. And Truman Capote was yelling at him for not using his articles.

"

  • Sidney Wang: What meaning of this, Mr. Twain?
  • Lionel Twain: I will tell you, Mr. Wang, if YOU can tell ME why a man who possesses one of the most brilliant minds of this century can't say his *prepositions* or *articles!* "What IS THE," Mr. Wang! "What IS THE meaning of this?"
  • Sidney Wang: That what I said! "What meaning of this?"
"
 
bhamv3

bhamv3

I should note that articles do not exist in Chinese grammar, so it is indeed a bit hard for native Chinese speakers to learn how to use them properly. Accidentally leaving them out, using them when they're not necessary, and accidentally mixing up definite/indefinite articles are all common errors.

But to come to us and claim that definite articles are entirely unnecessary has led to a forehead-shaped divot on my desk.
 
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David

David

bhamv3 said:
I should note that articles do not exist in Chinese grammar, so it is indeed a bit hard for native Chinese speakers to learn how to use them properly. Accidentally leaving them out, using them when they're not necessary, and accidentally mixing up definite/indefinite articles are all common errors.

But to come to us and claim that definite articles are entirely unnecessary has led to a forehead-shaped divot on my desk.
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Why even hire you to translate if they're so certain they know better?
 
bhamv3

bhamv3

David said:
Why even hire you to translate if they're so certain they know better?
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The reasons vary.

1. Some are angling for a discount. If they can say "we had to make so many changes to your translation, it was terrible, you should only charge us half price", they're going to try it.

2. Some do it for ego. They believe they have amazing English skills, and it'd feel good if they can show up the professional translators. Ever looked at a carpentry job or plumbing job, and thought to yourself, "Psht, I can do better than that"? Similar feeling, except they actually do try to do better than us.

3. Sometimes they really do have the ability to improve our translation, for example they know the specific field or terminology better than us because we're not subject experts, in such cases their edits are usually good and we can learn from them. Oftentimes they hire us instead of doing it themselves because they don't have time, or they'd just rather spend the money.

4. Sometimes they're just stupid.
 
Dave

Dave

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Our plant is currently doing its annual shutdown. Tomorrow will be my 8th 12.5 hour day in a row. It's a minor rant because that paycheck is going to fucking rock. And it comes on the day we leave for vacation for two weeks.

So if you fucks don't see me until like November 8 it's not because I hate you or this place, it's just that I'm relaxing in a heated pool or on the beach and not thinking of you or work at all. AT ALL.
 
drawn_inward

drawn_inward

Dave said:
Our plant is currently doing its annual shutdown. Tomorrow will be my 8th 12.5 hour day in a row. It's a minor rant because that paycheck is going to fucking rock. And it comes on the day we leave for vacation for two weeks.

So if you fucks don't see me until like November 8 it's not because I hate you or this place, it's just that I'm relaxing in a heated pool or on the beach and not thinking of you or work at all. AT ALL.
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Hope you have a relaxing and restful vaca! We will try not to burn the place down while you're gone.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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I tried to watch Alien: Romulus tonight and immediately lost all interest as soon as I heard every single character speaking with cockney accents so thick they might as well had mouthfuls of marbles. I am sick to death of the overuse of cockney for the last 5 years or so. I'd rather be on the phone with overseas tech support for 3 hours than watch a movie full of cockney jibberish.
 
IronBrig4

IronBrig4

GasBandit said:
I tried to watch Alien: Romulus tonight and immediately lost all interest as soon as I heard every single character speaking with cockney accents so thick they might as well had mouthfuls of marbles. I am sick to death of the overuse of cockney for the last 5 years or so. I'd rather be on the phone with overseas tech support for 3 hours than watch a movie full of cockney jibberish.
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I blame Jason Statham and the Kingsmen movies. Sometime in the 2010s, chavs and other lower-class louts became trendy in Britain. With that came the Cockney accent's rise in popularity. Peaky Blinders did something similar for the Birmingham accent.

I miss the days when characters spoke in Mid-Atlantic accents. Think Golden Age Hollywood or Frasier Crane.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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IronBrig4 said:
I blame Jason Statham and the Kingsmen movies. Sometime in the 2010s, chavs and other lower-class louts became trendy in Britain. With that came the Cockney accent's rise in popularity. Peaky Blinders did something similar for the Birmingham accent.

I miss the days when characters spoke in Mid-Atlantic accents. Think Golden Age Hollywood or Frasier Crane.
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I fondly remember when Cockney accents were firmly sequestered to the Guy Ritchie movies. There was no reason to let them out of their playpen.
 
bhamv3

bhamv3

Me to my department, two weeks ago: "I'm calling a meeting for two weeks from today. I know a lot of you guys are working remotely, which is why we usually have these meetings online, but this meeting will involve demoing certain new procedures as well as handing out certain materials, so it needs to be in person, which is why I need you guys to come in to the office for the meeting."

Two of my department members, ten minutes before the start of the meeting: "Hey, you haven't sent out the URL for the online meeting yet."

Me: "You both have nine and a half minutes left to get your butts to the office, otherwise I'm firing you both."

Just kidding, I didn't say that. I don't have the power to fire people, plus we need them, plus they're both hot. Instead, I said "Ok, you guys can skip the meeting today, I'll make a video of the demo I'm doing so you can watch it later, and we'll mail the materials to you."
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

bhamv3 said:
Instead, I said "Ok, you guys can skip the meeting today, I'll make a video of the demo I'm doing so you can watch it later, and we'll mail the materials to you."
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I hope you did that in the kind of way where you say, "I will send it so we can all reach our goal" but word it in such a way that they have to wonder whether you were actually saying that the rest of the people who did attend the meeting are going to gang up, come over there, and kill them.

--Patrick
 
IronBrig4

IronBrig4

We knew it was a distinct possibility especially in the first trimester. I had been mentally preparing for it so it wouldn’t come as a shock. Still, it sucks. We had a miscarriage.

These past few weeks were happy ones. We had been talking about how to turn my study into the baby’s room. We were reading those expectant parents’ guide books together. We might have gotten a little ahead of ourselves. Now it feels weird coming down from that emotional high.
 
Dave

Dave

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IronBrig4 said:
We knew it was a distinct possibility especially in the first trimester. I had been mentally preparing for it so it wouldn’t come as a shock. Still, it sucks. We had a miscarriage.

These past few weeks were happy ones. We had been talking about how to turn my study into the baby’s room. We were reading those expectant parents’ guide books together. We might have gotten a little ahead of ourselves. Now it feels weird coming down from that emotional high.
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Fuck man, so sorry.
 
drawn_inward

drawn_inward

IronBrig4 said:
We knew it was a distinct possibility especially in the first trimester. I had been mentally preparing for it so it wouldn’t come as a shock. Still, it sucks. We had a miscarriage.

These past few weeks were happy ones. We had been talking about how to turn my study into the baby’s room. We were reading those expectant parents’ guide books together. We might have gotten a little ahead of ourselves. Now it feels weird coming down from that emotional high.
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Sorry you and your wife are going through this.
 
LordRendar

LordRendar

Had to end a 13 year friendship tonight. Had this friend who perpetually is late to things, an has flaked on me when we planned to hang out more times than i can remember. We were planning to meet tonight to get a drink and then go to a club, for which i bought the tickets. Was standing in front of the Club for half an hour (from 11pm to 11:30) and then she send a text that she fell asleep and had to get ready and would be there at around 2 am. Yeah, that wasn't happening. Went home. Told her to send me the money for the tickets and to lose my number after that.
 
IronBrig4

IronBrig4

I’ve known people like that. The group is at the restaurant or theater except for the flake. You text them and they tell you “almost there. Bad traffic.” But there is no traffic and they haven’t even left. They just woke up and they’re scrambling to get ready like it’s the beginning of Three O’Clock High.
 
LordRendar

LordRendar

I wouldn't have minded if she would have told me before i left home. But standing in the cold and being told i might have to wait 2+ hours till she arrives is not something i am willing to do, after I already told her the last time, that there are few things i dislike more then being stood up. I don't even care that much if one cancels an hour or two before the meet. But as soon as I arrive and you don't show up, I will be mad. She told me I could go into the venue and party till she arrives, but in the state of mind i was in, the last thing I wanted to do was see her. I just feel disrespected. Like my time isn't worth as much as hers.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I'm trying to finally make a video of my first bike tour from back in 2021. I biked 111 km from Halifax to Lunenburg. Took a whole bunch of footage and did nothing with it. I wanted to make a video on the lessons I learned from that trip, but never got around to it. And...I still have no idea.

I wrote some rough notes for it. Tried writing out and speaking the narration as a test, but I keep screwing up and having to start over. I hate everything I write or speak.

I have no idea how people who do YouTube videos on a regular basis are able to do this.
 
Sparhawk

Sparhawk

ThatNickGuy said:
I'm trying to finally make a video of my first bike tour from back in 2021. I biked 111 km from Halifax to Lunenburg. Took a whole bunch of footage and did nothing with it. I wanted to make a video on the lessons I learned from that trip, but never got around to it. And...I still have no idea.

I wrote some rough notes for it. Tried writing out and speaking the narration as a test, but I keep screwing up and having to start over. I hate everything I write or speak.

I have no idea how people who do YouTube videos on a regular basis are able to do this.
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Part of it is just practice. Nobody is an expert the first time they do something. We all have learning curves that the first times that we try to do something. The first few times I was trying to talk to a group of students, I stank at it. I wasn’t good at seeing how they were reacting to the lesson, wasn’t good at not rushing through just trying to get through what I had outlined for the lesson, wasn’t good finding the right tone for the lesson. I won’t say I ever became anything other than middling, I’m my own worst critic, just like you are yours. I got better each time I taught, after weeks I finally found my “voice” and became more comfortable doing those lessons. I have lost much of that skill over the past 20ish years as I haven’t continued to consistently work forward on those skills. Each day I work on electrical now, I get better, but I was not “good” when I started. Partly I think we all have to work to get better at anything we try to do. Coding, electrical, clerical work, teaching, talking to people, all of it. I would say it wouldn’t even be bad if you just did vocal recordings of what you want to say on the video, take a day away and listen to, but try to remind yourself that you’ll have good things and bad news things you hear. Make notes on your script to “save this” or “this doesn’t work” or “relax” or “slow down.”
From where I’ve heard your voice on some stuff you’ve posted, you have a good speaking voice, that puts you ahead of many people that try any type of vocal work.
 
drifter

drifter

ThatNickGuy said:
I'm trying to finally make a video of my first bike tour from back in 2021. I biked 111 km from Halifax to Lunenburg. Took a whole bunch of footage and did nothing with it. I wanted to make a video on the lessons I learned from that trip, but never got around to it. And...I still have no idea.

I wrote some rough notes for it. Tried writing out and speaking the narration as a test, but I keep screwing up and having to start over. I hate everything I write or speak.

I have no idea how people who do YouTube videos on a regular basis are able to do this.
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Have you tried doing a couple run-throughs without recording and ignoring any mistakes? Can be good to get a couple practice runs in.

Also it’s not like you have to do the whole thing in one go, I assume lots of YouTubers edit together multiple takes.
 
Dirona

Dirona

Dirona said:
I have some sort of stomach bug. Everything hurts, I'm constantly cold, and I'm nauseous all the time. I've been carrying around a security bucket all day and it has gotten used regularly.
This sucks.
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I'm still fucking sick and can't work today.
You know.
Just the most public, important, work day of the year? The one that sets the tone for the next year? That one.

Months of planning... Just handed over to others. All because I can barely stand and am still struggling to keep food down.

I hate this. I am supremely annoyed. And surprisingly sad.

Humbug.
 
Dirona

Dirona

Dirona said:
I'm still fucking sick and can't work today.
You know.
Just the most public, important, work day of the year? The one that sets the tone for the next year? That one.

Months of planning... Just handed over to others. All because I can barely stand and am still struggling to keep food down.

I hate this. I am supremely annoyed. And surprisingly sad.

Humbug.
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Lol.

As of now... the first of the 2 services this evening are cancelled because of weather. And I suspect the second one will be too, because it's not getting any less snowy out.
 
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