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Conan O'Brien Leaving (AKA Fuck NBC)

#1

Dave

Dave

Can NBC be any dumber?

For the record, from Conan: http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/01/12/conan-releases-statement-on-late-night-situation/

He refuses to be moved. I think everyone is in his corner on this. Screw Leno, the greedy bastard.


#2

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Wasn't Leno supposed to have retired this year anyway?

I like Conan O'Brien, just not his show. He seems like some one cool to talk to over beer and darts.

Leno is just kinda like the mildly funny Uncle. The new show format was horrible. It should have been a Wednesday night special, (or any other single weekday) to keep it fresh.

NBC - Man are they stupid?


#3



Wyrminarrd

I hope that Conan gets a talk show at Fox that competes with Jay Leno, it would serve NBC right after all their fear of Leno turning on them that Conan would be the one to take down their late night viewers.


#4

Espy

Espy

Dumb NBC. Dumb.


#5

Dave

Dave

Where ever Conan goes I will follow. I will watch, I will laugh and I will let people know.

NBC is very, very dumb to do this.


#6

fade

fade

I agree. He always seemed like the real guy who accidentally got famous. Why are they sucking up so hard to Jay Leno, who is only occasionally funny in order to boot a guy who's consistently funny? I guess Leno still carries more clout with the public. Whine though we may, I'm guessing NBC's marketing guys know more about the US viewership than I do.


#7



Wyrminarrd

fade said:
I agree. He always seemed like the real guy who accidentally got famous. Why are they sucking up so hard to Jay Leno, who is only occasionally funny in order to boot a guy who's consistently funny? I guess Leno still carries more clout with the public. Whine though we may, I'm guessing NBC's marketing guys know more about the US viewership than I do.
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This is NBC we are talking about so I doubt that their marketing people have any clue about what the american public wants


#8

Dave

Dave

Created a FB fan page called "Save Conan O'Brien".

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-Conan-Obrien/253904306584

Let's see if we can get this moving.


#9

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

I just had to comment...

North_Ranger said:
Dear Conan,

We sincerely hope that the situation between you and NBC will resolve itself peacefully, so we may continue to be entertained by your giant Irish antics, frightened screams at wild animals, predictions for the year 3000 and other hilarious happenstances we have enjoyed in Late Night and now with Tonight Show.

Just so you know, just give us a word and Finland will send its polar bear cavalry to storm the NBC headquarters.
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#10

Dave

Dave

Took down my page as there's one established. Damn it.


#11

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

NBC is bad and should feel bad.


#12

Calleja

Calleja

I hate NBC for doing this, they move the guy and his entire family across the entire continent and then screw him over 6 months later!? Fuck them, especially cause they're using a loophole in his contract that said the show's time slot could be moved, something put in basically for sporting events... now their position is that they're not breaching the contract cause his show would still be called "The Tonight Show".

Fuck that, The Tonight Show has been at that time since the days of Carson, I agree with Conan's statement saying that moving it is pretty much killing it. Tonight is supposed to be on after the local news, not after that greedy chinned bastard being unfunny for half an hour.

Now there's talk that NBC will prevent Conan from hosting any other late night show if he leaves them until his contract expires which is more than a year from now. Fuck them two times.


#13

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Conan will make life horrible for NBC if they force him to stay. He needs to Jack Parr their asses.


#14

Calleja

Calleja

He's already EVISCERATING them in his monologue... and pretty much the rest of the show, he even got help from Gary Oldman last night.


#15

Shakey

Shakey

Hopefully he doesn't end up at Fox. No one watches Fox, no matter how good the show is.


#16

Calleja

Calleja

Not even, say, The Simpsons?


#17

Shakey

Shakey

It was a joke, but Simpsons doesn't really have much to compete with.

It would be incredibly hard to gain much of an audience competing with Leno and Letterman though.


#18

Calleja

Calleja

Leno should just crash one of his 42,000 cars and die already. Greedy bastard.

I thought the appeal of Conan was that he's the only one that consistently attracts the young demographic, whereas both Leno and Letterman's audience is mainly square in the 40+ bracket.


#19

Shakey

Shakey

They screwed Conan though. With Jay having a show before the news the people loyal to Jay just tuned out after that. Conan never had a chance to get Jay's ratings.


#20

Calleja

Calleja

Yeah, but last I heard NBC was ok with that because Conan brought in the most sought after demographic, the 18-40s

Besides, not even Leno got Leno's old ratings, that's a big part of why they're doing all this, they didn't like the ratings of their "low budget" response to primetime.


#21

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Dave said:
Where ever Conan goes I will follow. I will watch, I will laugh and I will let people know.

NBC is very, very dumb to do this.
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Pretty much in agreement there.


#22



TwoBit

Screw NBC. If they keep this crap up, I'll end up despising them more than the fox network.


#23

Calleja

Calleja

The Tonight Show guy that handles the website and has been on a few sketches jsut tweeted that we should "hold on to our seats" for tonight's show... I predict heavy further eviscerating of NBC plus maybe even an on-air announcement.....


#24



Chazwozel

fade said:
I agree. He always seemed like the real guy who accidentally got famous. Why are they sucking up so hard to Jay Leno, who is only occasionally funny in order to boot a guy who's consistently funny? I guess Leno still carries more clout with the public. Whine though we may, I'm guessing NBC's marketing guys know more about the US viewership than I do.
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Leno holds clout with the older audience. Fucking Baby Boomers ruin late night TV as well as everything else.


#25



Chazwozel

Shakey said:
They screwed Conan though. With Jay having a show before the news the people loyal to Jay just tuned out after that. Conan never had a chance to get Jay's ratings.
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This is exactly right. The Jay Leno show competed with the Tonight Show, and split the demographic. Honestly, if you were a fan of the Tonight Show and got the same dose of it from the Jay Leno show, why would you stay tuned in and watch an hour longer rather than just go to bed an hour earlier. NBC should have kicked Leno to the curb. 100% guaranteed if they did that, Conan would have been just fine. Fuck, they didn't even give Conan a full year to build an audience...

If Conan would have agreed to a 12:05 timeslot, you'd still see the same effect. People would watch Leno's half hour and tune out. There's only so much 'talk show' one can take. Who the hell would watch talkshows from 10 to 12 under the old timeslot anyway?


#26

Shakey

Shakey

When is Letterman retiring? Dudes gotta be 80 by now. I know it isn't gonna happen, but that would be funny as hell if Conan jumped ship and took over Letterman's spot.


#27

filmfanatic

filmfanatic

Here's an official comment by Conan on the matter.

Conan O'Brien said:
People of Earth:

In the last few days, I’ve been getting a lot of sympathy calls, and I want to start by making it clear that no one should waste a second feeling sorry for me. For 17 years, I’ve been getting paid to do what I love most and, in a world with real problems, I’ve been absurdly lucky. That said, I’ve been suddenly put in a very public predicament and my bosses are demanding an immediate decision.

Six years ago, I signed a contract with NBC to take over The Tonight Show in June of 2009. Like a lot of us, I grew up watching Johnny Carson every night and the chance to one day sit in that chair has meant everything to me. I worked long and hard to get that opportunity, passed up far more lucrative offers, and since 2004 I have spent literally hundreds of hours thinking of ways to extend the franchise long into the future. It was my mistaken belief that, like my predecessor, I would have the benefit of some time and, just as important, some degree of ratings support from the prime-time schedule. Building a lasting audience at 11:30 is impossible without both.

But sadly, we were never given that chance. After only seven months, with my Tonight Show in its infancy, NBC has decided to react to their terrible difficulties in prime-time by making a change in their long-established late night schedule.

Last Thursday, NBC executives told me they intended to move the Tonight Show to 12:05 to accommodate the Jay Leno Show at 11:35. For 60 years the Tonight Show has aired immediately following the late local news. I sincerely believe that delaying the Tonight Show into the next day to accommodate another comedy program will seriously damage what I consider to be the greatest franchise in the history of broadcasting. The Tonight Show at 12:05 simply isn’t the Tonight Show. Also, if I accept this move I will be knocking the Late Night show, which I inherited from David Letterman and passed on to Jimmy Fallon, out of its long-held time slot. That would hurt the other NBC franchise that I love, and it would be unfair to Jimmy.

So it has come to this: I cannot express in words how much I enjoy hosting this program and what an enormous personal disappointment it is for me to consider losing it. My staff and I have worked unbelievably hard and we are very proud of our contribution to the legacy of The Tonight Show. But I cannot participate in what I honestly believe is its destruction. Some people will make the argument that with DVRs and the Internet a time slot doesn’t matter. But with the Tonight Show, I believe nothing could matter more.

There has been speculation about my going to another network but, to set the record straight, I currently have no other offer and honestly have no idea what happens next. My hope is that NBC and I can resolve this quickly so that my staff, crew, and I can do a show we can be proud of, for a company that values our work.

Have a great day and, for the record, I am truly sorry about my hair; it’s always been that way.

Yours,

Conan
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#28



Qonas

I believe I, and scores of others including David Letterman and Jimmy Kimmel, have made my position perfectly clear.

Fuck NBC and fuck Jay Leno.


#29

Calleja

Calleja

What has Letterman said on the issue?


#30

Shakey

Shakey

He's kinda taking Conan's side, it's more of an anti NBC and Leno side. Last night he was joking about all the people NBC and Leno have screwed over on their late night lineup.


#31

Calleja

Calleja

Letterman and Conan have always been on friendly terms... Letterman went even so far as to appear as a guest on one of Conan's first ever Late Night shows, even though he had just left NBC in the most unfriendly of manners. He has always said he's glad it was Conan who inherited Late Night from him... i've never really been a fan of Dave's show, but he has always been a class act.


#32

Dave

Dave

Calleja said:
I've never really been a fan of Dave's show, but he has always been a class act.
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Unless you're married to him...


#33



kaykordeath

Calleja said:
Letterman and Conan have always been on friendly terms... Letterman went even so far as to appear as a guest on one of Conan's first ever Late Night shows, even though he had just left NBC in the most unfriendly of manners. He has always said he's glad it was Conan who inherited Late Night from him... i've never really been a fan of Dave's show, but he has always been a class act.
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Letterman's production compnay, Worldwide Pants produced Late Night with Conan (as well as produces Craig Furguson's show).


#34

Frank

Frankie Williamson

kaykordeath;328353][QUOTE=Calleja said:
Letterman and Conan have always been on friendly terms... Letterman went even so far as to appear as a guest on one of Conan's first ever Late Night shows, even though he had just left NBC in the most unfriendly of manners. He has always said he's glad it was Conan who inherited Late Night from him... i've never really been a fan of Dave's show, but he has always been a class act.
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Letterman's production compnay, Worldwide Pants produced Late Night with Conan (as well as produces Craig Furguson's show).[/QUOTE]

What, no it wasn't. Late Night was Broadway Video (Lorne Michael's production company) until Conan took over everything with his Conaco production company.


#35

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

Jimmy Kimmel also did his whole show in a fake chin and silver hair as "Jay Leno". It was pretty funny, even though i'm not the biggest Kimmel fan. One of the gags was: "ABC - always bump conan"


#36

Calleja

Calleja

Dave;328347][QUOTE=Calleja said:
I've never really been a fan of Dave's show, but he has always been a class act.
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Unless you're married to him...[/QUOTE]

The affairs he had were mostly in the 90's, which was before he was married to Regina in early 2009. No one has said an affair happened after he was with her, the scandal was more of the "oohh, he slept with interns on his show, unhealthy work environment" more than adultery.


#37

Dave

Dave

Calleja;328358][QUOTE=Dave;328347][QUOTE=Calleja said:
I've never really been a fan of Dave's show, but he has always been a class act.
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Unless you're married to him...[/QUOTE]

The affairs he had were mostly in the 90's, which was before he was married to Regina in early 2009. No one has said an affair happened after he was with her, the scandal was more of the "oohh, he slept with interns on his show, unhealthy work environment" more than adultery.[/QUOTE]

My bad. I thought some of these happened during his marriage.


#38

Calleja

Calleja

He still apologized on-air to his wife for the whole debacle of having his sex life dragged through the public eye, but that was, to my somewhat informed knowledge of late night debacles, the only mention of Regina in the scandal. The big issue was that someone had tried to blackmail him, so instead he just publicly talked about it rather than letting the blackmailer call the shots.


#39



kaykordeath

Frankie;328354][QUOTE=kaykordeath;328353][QUOTE=Calleja said:
Letterman and Conan have always been on friendly terms... Letterman went even so far as to appear as a guest on one of Conan's first ever Late Night shows, even though he had just left NBC in the most unfriendly of manners. He has always said he's glad it was Conan who inherited Late Night from him... i've never really been a fan of Dave's show, but he has always been a class act.
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Letterman's production compnay, Worldwide Pants produced Late Night with Conan (as well as produces Craig Furguson's show).[/QUOTE]

What, no it wasn't. Late Night was Broadway Video (Lorne Michael's production company) until Conan took over everything with his Conaco production company.[/QUOTE]

What the fuck was I thinking!?? Why the hell did I think that?

But it doesn't change that Letterman had been very supportive of Conan from very early on...

....

And now, stolen from Fark...Leno leaving NBC?

http://www.popeater.com/2010/01/13/jay-leno-leaving-nbc/?pimped


#40

Calleja

Calleja

I'd get a lot of respect for Leno back if that actually came to be and he retained his dignity and walked away too.


#41

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I just got cynical tonight watching Conan. Could all this be just an elaborate ruse by Leno, NBC and Conan to bring more attention to their shows (both of which have been very disappointing ratings wise)?

I was thinking about it. They have every news outlet and rival talkshow host talking about them.


#42

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

If it is all a ruse, then it's a good one, because it got me to tune in.


#43

Dave

Dave

I rather doubt it's a ruse.


#44

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Dave said:
I rather doubt it's a ruse.
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Mah Engleesh, she fails me. Do you mean you are doubtful of it and think it is a ruse, or are you doubtful of the claim that it could be a ruse?

Just curious; that whole "doubt that X is something" has always seemed a bit... ambiguous to me.


#45

Dave

Dave

I don't think it's a ruse.


#46

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Dave said:
I don't think it's a ruse.
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Thank you.


#47

Dave

Dave

And now the threats start:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/14/jeff-zucker-threatens-con_n_423278.html

NBC is threatening Conan to try and keep him off the air for 3.5 years.


#48

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

I don't think NBC's lawyers are that good.

It must suck to be owned by the man.


#49

Jay

Jay

This is why NPC was sold for a few coins. Sad sad network.


#50

Shakey

Shakey

If anything I have a feeling this is all an attempt by NBC to get Jay back in the Tonight Show. They knew Conan wouldn't want to get pushed back again, so this way they can put Leno back in and hope by the time Conan can get back on the air people will have forgotten about him.


#51

Calleja

Calleja

Howard Stern has something to say about all this... he reckons that Leno, knowing that in late night TV it's all about the lead-ins, purposefully took the 10pm show just to steal Conan's thunder AND give him a shitty lead-in, stealing half his ratings in the process, knowing that eventually they'd cancel him and give him back the Tonight Show.

What was surprising is that Stern, who's hated NBC and not appeared in it for 25 years, is considering flying down to LA cause Conan invited him on The Tonight Show. He hates Leno THAT much.

Hear it all yourself: http://tv.gawker.com/5448264/howard-stern-despises-jay-leno-gets-a-call-from-conan


#52

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

I've watched more late night TV in the past week than all of my life before it.


#53

Calleja

Calleja

Yeah, I've been hearing that a lot. Thankfully that means that all the ratings land Conan an actually decent offer if he's shoved out of NBC. I'm a bit worried about the evilness of Zucker, though.

It'd be a little bit poetic if Conan ended up on Fox, where he started it all writing for the Simpsons. I'm not sure it'd be the right move, though, competing against both Letterman AND Leno in a network no one watches unless they're playing cartoons.


#54

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

Calleja said:
Yeah, I've been hearing that a lot. Thankfully that means that all the ratings land Conan an actually decent offer if he's shoved out of NBC. I'm a bit worried about the evilness of Zucker, though.

It'd be a little bit poetic if Conan ended up on Fox, where he started it all writing for the Simpsons. I'm not sure it'd be the right move, though, competing against both Letterman AND Leno in a network no one watches unless they're playing cartoons.
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House and American Idol and Glee are pretty big successes


#55

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Calleja said:
Yeah, I've been hearing that a lot. Thankfully that means that all the ratings land Conan an actually decent offer if he's shoved out of NBC. I'm a bit worried about the evilness of Zucker, though.

It'd be a little bit poetic if Conan ended up on Fox, where he started it all writing for the Simpsons. I'm not sure it'd be the right move, though, competing against both Letterman AND Leno in a network no one watches unless they're playing cartoons.
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Then Conan will be going on at 11:30 following an hour of COPS reruns.


#56

Calleja

Calleja

NBC spent more time building the new Tonight Show studio than they let Conan use it. That's how stupid they are.


#57

Covar

Covar

Charlie Dont Surf;328776][QUOTE=Calleja said:
Yeah, I've been hearing that a lot. Thankfully that means that all the ratings land Conan an actually decent offer if he's shoved out of NBC. I'm a bit worried about the evilness of Zucker, though.

It'd be a little bit poetic if Conan ended up on Fox, where he started it all writing for the Simpsons. I'm not sure it'd be the right move, though, competing against both Letterman AND Leno in a network no one watches unless they're playing cartoons.
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House and American Idol and Glee are pretty big successes[/QUOTE]
Don't forget all the sports.

Grabbing the NFL contract was a huge deal for Fox.


#58

Calleja

Calleja

So are you guys saying that starting the first late night talk show over at Fox in years and years would be a good move for Conan? I hope so, I really don't want that redheaded tall freak gone from TV.


#59

Krisken

Krisken

It should be interesting. I'm hoping Leno sticks to the idea that bumping Conan would be a bad move. I'm curious how much of a fall out this would be for him if he does decide to take back the slot after Conan refused to be bumped to the later time.


#60

Calleja

Calleja

No one can deny Conan's motives are sound. It's not like he's doing it for the compensation money since we know they're loop-holing him out of that. He's stepping away cause he respects the Tonight Show franchise and doesn't want to bone Jimmy Fallon and his beloved Late Night franchise either. And people know that, that's why there isn't a single TV personality out there that's on Leno's side beside Leno.

That means that if Leno is given the Tonight Show back he's going to do it with a lot of people, both celebrities and audience, pissed off at his lack of class. I hope this will be his undoing.


#61

Shakey

Shakey

Moving to Fox would be a hard move for Conan I think. As it's already been shown, he isn't doing too hot right now. Competing with Letterman and Leno on the same time slot would be even worse. It'd probably be better than getting bumped though.


#62

Calleja

Calleja

Moving Conan to Fox would be a hard move for Fox, too. It'd be a huge investment and they've even said that even though they'd love to have Conan, it'd be a hard thing to sell to their affiliates who are happy with Simpsons reruns and all that crap they air at that time slot.


#63

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

Fox would be in a real awkward position since they do only two hours of content a night, and have news at 9 cst/10 est


#64

Calleja

Calleja

They've been rising into the "big three" territory so much lately, though, that I think they want to keep competing with ABC, CBS and the network Conan doesn't want named... and that means getting back into the late night talk show race. What better way than doing it the way CBS did it with Letterman, really?

I don't know, I'm really afraid Zucker is going to get his way and deprive us of Conan for a while.


#65

Shakey

Shakey

If Conan leaves he's going to be gone for a while no matter what. If he does get another deal they are going to need to get a new set built and get all the behind the scenes stuff worked out.


#66

Calleja

Calleja

Yeah, but a few months is not 3 and a half years


#67

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I was under the impression that Leno was threatening to walk too, if they bumped Conan out. He seems to realize that it looks like he WANTS NBC to do this to Conan and that it's killing his reputation, so he figured that it'd be better to leave NBC than to lose any chance to work in show business ever again.

I know I saw a report of this somewhere...


#68

Shakey

Shakey

Nice. http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/conan-obrien-pinkvisual-porn-porno-movie-xxx/

Adult-film company Pink Visual reportedly sent O'Brien a letter offering him a position due to the current high demand for "tall, lean, pale, male 'gingers' that have a David Caruso kind of thing going on."
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#69

Calleja

Calleja

AshburnerX said:
I was under the impression that Leno was threatening to walk too, if they bumped Conan out. He seems to realize that it looks like he WANTS NBC to do this to Conan and that it's killing his reputation, so he figured that it'd be better to leave NBC than to lose any chance to work in show business ever again.

I know I saw a report of this somewhere...
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Yeah, I think it was a rumor I read somewhere too... but it hasn't left the rumor area since and it's been more than two days, which is enough for Leno's people to deny or confirm, and neither has happened. Considering how much crap he's taking his continued silence probably means it was never more than a rumor. So it looks like Leno is going along with it. The bumping of Conan, I mean.


#70

Calleja

Calleja

Shakey said:
Nice. http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/conan-obrien-pinkvisual-porn-porno-movie-xxx/

Adult-film company Pink Visual reportedly sent O'Brien a letter offering him a position due to the current high demand for \\"tall, lean, pale, male 'gingers' that have a David Caruso kind of thing going on.\\"
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Oh man, that's hilarious, considering one of Conan's monologue jokes was precisely that he could go on to porn. I hope he got the offer early enough that he can incorporate it into tonight's monologue, that's comedy gold.


#71

Shakey

Shakey

They saw the monologue, and that's why they put out the offer. Here's the letter.


#72

Vagabond

V.Bond

http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/jay-leno-conan-obrien-nbc-the-tonight-show/

:(


#73

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Fuck Jay Leno forever.

Fuck his hideous, unfunny, misshapen head.


#74

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Vagabond said:
http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/jay-leno-conan-obrien-nbc-the-tonight-show/

:(
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Let's see how long the Tonight Show lasts now that everyone knows that Jay is a crook. I imagine he's going to be hard up to find quality guests for awhile and his ratings are definitely going to suffer, as he's likely to lose a large portion of Conan's old audience over this.

As for Conan... if NBC DOES try to keep him off the air, it's going to be a rough few years. But I could definitely see Fox or maybe even Comedy Central trying to get him.


#75

Shakey

Shakey

AshburnerX;328916][QUOTE=Vagabond said:
http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/jay-leno-conan-obrien-nbc-the-tonight-show/

:(
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Let's see how long the Tonight Show lasts now that everyone knows that Jay is a crook. I imagine he's going to be hard up to find quality guests for awhile and his ratings are definitely going to suffer, as he's likely to lose a large portion of Conan's old audience over this.
[/QUOTE]

I don't think it would hurt him much. Stars usually have to do these shows to gain publicity for their movies/shows/whatever. He pissed off a lot of people when he took the job from Letterman, he did just fine after that.


#76

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I always knew Jay Leno was a jerk, but this was unexpected.


#77

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

My Finnish rage is rising... desire to kill pelican-faced douchebag growing harder to contain :mad2:


#78

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

If Leno thought he had bad ratings before....


#79

Espy

Espy

Wow. Super lame. The worst part is he's probably going to do just fine and most of America won't care.


#80

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Shakey;328919][QUOTE=AshburnerX;328916][QUOTE=Vagabond said:
http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/jay-leno-conan-obrien-nbc-the-tonight-show/

:(
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Let's see how long the Tonight Show lasts now that everyone knows that Jay is a crook. I imagine he's going to be hard up to find quality guests for awhile and his ratings are definitely going to suffer, as he's likely to lose a large portion of Conan's old audience over this.
[/QUOTE]

I don't think it would hurt him much. Stars usually have to do these shows to gain publicity for their movies/shows/whatever. He pissed off a lot of people when he took the job from Letterman, he did just fine after that.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps, but I still imagine stars are going to be trying to get Letterman, Fallon, Kimmel, or Carson Daily over him now.

In any event, he's basically guaranteed that he's going to be in second place for now on. I doubt he's going to regain his audience after these shenanigans without some really impressive stuff.


#81

Espy

Espy

I hope you are right Ash but I honestly think he's gonna be fine. I hope I'm wrong.


#82

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

North_Ranger said:
pelican-faced douchebag:
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:rofl:


#83

Shakey

Shakey

I'm guessing Letterman will be leading the pack ratings wise for a long time now. I can't imagine Leno getting his old ratings again. He isn't going to be hurting, but his golden years are gone now.


#84

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Shakey said:
I'm guessing Letterman will be leading the pack ratings wise for a long time now. I can't imagine Leno getting his old ratings again. He isn't going to be hurting, but his golden years are gone now.
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It does make you wonder though... is there currently any plans for who will get Late Night once Letterman retires? I know Ferguson is their other late night guy, but I could see Conan taking over that show once Letterman retires. He definitely has more clout and appeal than poor ol' Craig at any rate.


#85

Shakey

Shakey

I was surprised that Craig was actually fairly close to Conan in ratings when they were competing. I'm not a big fan of Craig though, mainly cause I can hardly understand him sometimes.

I haven't even heard a whisper of Letterman thinking of retiring. The guy will probably go until he croaks.


#86

Calleja

Calleja

I think Ferguson is expecting Letterman's show once Dave retires.


Goddamn Leno. Seriously. Goddamn. This has pissed me off more than I rationally know it should, but as I read the TMZ article I found myself literally grinding my teeth. That fucking no-class douchebag. What pisses me off the most is that I know he'll do fine in his insipid stupid fucking show and Conan won't get another shot at the big time for a long while, if ever.

Argh.


#87

strawman

strawman

Calfornia has consistently shot down "non-compete" agreements (think, "You can't work for our competitors or in our line of business for 2 years after you leave us") for years in the engineering profession. I'd be surprised if they were able to lock out Conan.

He's getting the raw end of the deal, but if they've already offered the job back to Leno prior to severing the contract with Conan, then they are likely going to buy out their contract with Conan. If so, it'll be tens of millions of dollars to Conan, and that's enough to start your own franchise and shop it around to the other networks.


#88

strawman

strawman

I'm watching last night's episode on hulu, and this is hilarious!

"I just want to say to the kids out there - you can do anything in your life that you want to.

Unless Jay Leno wants to do it too."

:rofl:


#89

Calleja

Calleja

None of which will be interested except Fox, who A) Isn't the best network to risk not being canceled anyway and B) will have a hard-ass time accommodating Conan.


#90

Steve

Steve

Shakey said:
Moving to Fox would be a hard move for Conan I think. As it's already been shown, he isn't doing too hot right now. Competing with Letterman and Leno on the same time slot would be even worse. It'd probably be better than getting bumped though.
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The bright side of a Fox show would be more freedom than Conan had with The Tonight Show. Probably more freedom than Late Night, too. Fox has had several late night shows that fell flat (Joan Rivers??? Arsenio Hall??? Chevy Chase??? The only one they didn't try was Carrot Top_but Conan has a proven track record and a following and had a history with Fox. He may not be ) he could bring in the key deomographics that advertisers want.


#91

Calleja

Calleja

And Conan will be the top ratings earner and lauded as Late Night's next Johnny Carson.... and then be inexplicably canceled by Fox for no apparent reason, after a few arbitrary time slot changes, right?


#92



Alucard

I feel sorry for Conan he got screwed. What network will he go on now though?


#93

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

If he's going anywhere, it's ether to Fox or Cable... and honestly, Cable might just be what Conan needs right now. I still think that having Conan do a show on Comedy Central after the Daily Show/Colbert Report would be a great move. It's got a great lead in and it's on a network that will basically let Conan do whatever he wants.


#94

@Li3n

@Li3n

AshburnerX said:
I a show on Comedy Central after the Daily Show/Colbert Report would be a great move.
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We agree: http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s180/grandjedi6/colbertstewartconanfight.png


#95

Shakey

Shakey

Wow. Whoever thought it would be a good idea to have Jimmy Kimmel on Leno's show needs to have their head examined.

"Listen, Jay, Conan and I have children," Kimmel pleaded as the segment concluded. "All you have to take care of is cars. I mean, we have lives to lead here. You've got $800 million. For God's sakes, leave our shows alone."
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#96

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Now what am I going to watch late at night when there's nothing else on on telly and I can't sleep? :(

Also, as a person who would have welcomed Conan had he visited Turku as well... I'm actually surprised this hasn't really appeared in the university papers or anything. I guess people are still trying to get their shit together after New Year's.


#97

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Shakey said:
Wow. Whoever thought it would be a good idea to have Jimmy Kimmel on Leno's show needs to have their head examined.

\"Listen, Jay, Conan and I have children,\" Kimmel pleaded as the segment concluded. \"All you have to take care of is cars. I mean, we have lives to lead here. You've got $800 million. For God's sakes, leave our shows alone.\"
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Heh. Go Jimmy.


#98

Jay

Jay

Wow, that was an ass kicking from Kimmel. Another link here... oh and I found a funny Craigslist.

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=68aabfbf-00b6-46ab-b1c7-ef4201ee8b46



#99

General Specific

General Specific

Yeah, damn, go Jimmy. My like for him has gone back up to Man Show levels.


#100

Dave

Dave

SeriousJay said:
Wow, that was an ass kicking from Kimmel. Another link here... oh and I found a funny Craigslist.

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=68aabfbf-00b6-46ab-b1c7-ef4201ee8b46

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Conan talked about that last night. He is really the person who put it on there! So if you contact the seller IT'S HIM!!


#101

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

He also said that he is considering doing the Porno.


#102

@Li3n

@Li3n

@Li3n;329114][QUOTE=AshburnerX said:
I a show on Comedy Central after the Daily Show/Colbert Report would be a great move.
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We agree: http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s180/grandjedi6/colbertstewartconanfight.png[/QUOTE]

Better one:


#103

Calleja

Calleja

Clip of Kimmel's on-air destruction of Leno:

http://tv.gawker.com/5449049/kimmel-rips-leno-to-shreds-the-clip-everyones-talking-about-today

Watch Leno squirm. That's what pisses me off about that guy, his ego is so huge he's a narcissist first and a comedian second. Letterman or Conan know when a joke is good, even if it's at their own expense. Either would have laughed at Kimmel's jokes, but Leno just squirms.


#104

Krisken

Krisken

What really surprises me is the pathetic display of outrage by NBC execs and Leno trying to act like the move was so unintended. Seriously, you uproot a shit load of people from NY to California, then fuck them over 7 months later, and then have the nerve to act hurt and stunned when the guy lampoons you? Really?


#105

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

If Leno was the hot commodity that NBC says, then why did his primetime show Tank? -because it sucks.


#106

Calleja

Calleja

I think that it was The Hollywood Reporter where I read that if NBC was so sure it was on the right to move The Tonight Show to 12:05 and be in compliance with Conan's contract they would have sued him for breach of contract long ago. They're not convinced that if this went to court a "we don't specify the time slot" loophole would really work against a "the time slot for the Tonight Show has not changed in 60 years" defense.

Apparently this means that although Leno will get the Tonight Show back, they'll avoid further confrontation by releasing Conan to appear on another network even before his contract expires.


#107

Calleja

Calleja

Conan on the whole porno thing: "Yeah, in the movie I'd be having sex with a beautiful woman, and just as we're about to climax I get replaced by Jay Leno."


#108

Calleja

Calleja

More on the Conan porno from himself: "I'm really considering this and I've come up with some possible titles for my first porno: "Crammin' O'Brien", "Coo-coo for Coco's Puffs", "Two Hosts, One Slot", "Conan's Mono Log", "Chin Deep", "Conan the Impaler", "The Splay Leno Show", "Conan gets the Late Shaft", "Carson Daly's Last Ball", "Laid Night with Jimmy's Phallus", "Changing Time Sluts", "In the Rear 3000", "Conan the Bangbarian", "Andy'll Try Him", "NBC Lawyer Gang Bang: The Backend Deals", "The Fistahood of the Traveling Timeslots"


#109

Jay

Jay

"The Fistahood of the Traveling Timeslots"

I fucken LOLed hard on this one. The rest are awesome too.


#110

Timmus

Timmus

What a terrible idea this all was. NBC should have had the balls to let one of them walk years ago but they had to try and have their cake and eat it too.


#111

Calleja

Calleja

Oh shit... Conan won't be able to take most of his bits after he leaves NBC, it looks like:

http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/01/nbc-to-keep-cocos-masturbating-bear.html

He hasn't busted out most of the mentioned ones in The Tonight Show, but a world without Conando saddens me to no end.


#112

Krisken

Krisken

Calleja said:
Oh shit... Conan won't be able to take most of his bits after he leaves NBC, it looks like:

http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/01/nbc-to-keep-cocos-masturbating-bear.html

He hasn't busted out most of the mentioned ones in The Tonight Show, but a world without Conando saddens me to no end.
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It's sad to see Masturbating Bear gone for good. I am anxious to find out if Triumph belongs to NBC or to Smigel.


#113

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

What about Andy and the Twitter Tracker Guy? Not to mention Max "The Perv" Weinberg? What happens to them? But yes, if Triumph is lost to NBC, there will be hell to pay. I'm talking mountains of burning doggie-doo at NBC's doorstep!


#114

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Considering Triumph has made appearances on shows not owned/aligned to NBC and for reasons not associated with NBC, it is clear that he is owned by Smigel. In fact, he was even used by Smigel in his TV Funhouse show on Comedy Central, which is clearly not owned by NBC and was created by Smigel. The only reason he WOULD be up in the air is if NBC was trying to buy the character off of him.


#115

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Apparently Conan had no interest in taking the bits and characters with him.


#116

Espy

Espy

Frankie said:
Apparently Conan had no interest in taking the bits and characters with him.
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Which I am pretty much totally cool with. I honestly feel like his bits got pretty stale. Not as bad as leno but I didn't have much interest in his stuff after years and years of the same thing. This gives him a chance to do what he does best, write new stuff and show us how amazing he can be.


#117

Calleja

Calleja

But..But...



#118

Espy

Espy

I'm not saying some of them aren't funny but I'm glad he's getting a chance to start from the ground up. I expect great things and am really hoping for comedy central although Fox would be fine.


#119

Calleja

Calleja

Comedy Central would mean he'd have to go after Colbert at 12..... Isn't that what started all this :paranoid:


#120

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Calleja said:
Comedy Central would mean he'd have to go after Colbert at 12..... Isn't that what started all this :paranoid:
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It's not really a matter of the time slot itself that was the problem... the problem was that Leno was supposed to step down, agreed to it, and then changed his mind when his new show tanked. I'm almost certain that Conan didn't make it an ultimatum that he receive the Tonight Show, but rather jumped at an opportunity that was presented to him. More importantly, putting Conan in that time slot on Comedy Central gives him a great lead in with an audience he's already a hit with, giving him a better chance to increase his ratings. Yes, it IS a step back, but it's also a chance for increased creative freedom by leaving network TV.


#121

Calleja

Calleja

It's a ratings cut with a paycheck cut, but with more freedom. Whereas Fox would mean a chance at pretty much the same ratings as Tonight Show with a big money deal, but less freedom.


I think I'd be ok with either, really, I just want Coco back acting out his jokes.

Is Comedy Central really a realistic option, though? I mean, have they said anything about being interested? I know Fox has, although they themselves admit it'd be a hard accommodation, but is the comedy central premise just a hopeful pipedream of ours?


#122

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

Of course Comedy Central would be interested. But it would be a gigantic step down for Conan.


#123

Calleja

Calleja

Yeah... during the whole Colbert/Stewart/Conan crossover in the writer's strike days Conan clearly joked about how his network ratings towered over the "little guys" at cable, and even though it was clearly a joke and he has nothing but respect for those guys, it rings true. I doubt he'd take a cable offer unless it was really juicy.

Let's hope Fox can make it work.


#124

Calleja

Calleja

By the way... does anyone know of anyway to get a hold of old/classic Late Night episodes? I want my Conan fix when he's gone, and I never got to watch lots of his most infamous moments like the Chuck Norris lever or even the masturbating bear. I began watching regularly pretty late in the Late Night run.

I know there's random clips on youtube, but I was hoping there's a way to see whole episodes? Monologues and all?


#125

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

He's only got 2 options if he wants to be on a big network again: CBS, Fox. CBS doesn't need another talk show so that is out. Fox could use the late night programing but they'd need to clear it with the affiliates first due to how Fox works as a network. He could maybe do something with the CW, but they are pretty flaky as far as a major network goes. Besides... at this point, ANYTHING is going to be a downgrade for Conan. Right now he just needs a venue to create, so he can do what he does best. If he gets an offer, I imagine he's going to jump for it.

Then again, he could just take some time off to write a book or something. He'd make millions if he wrote a tell-all about the behind the scenes decisions of the NBC executives and Leno.


#126

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

Calleja said:
By the way... does anyone know of anyway to get a hold of old/classic Late Night episodes? I want my Conan fix when he's gone, and I never got to watch lots of his most infamous moments like the Chuck Norris lever or even the masturbating bear. I began watching regularly pretty late in the Late Night run.

I know there's random clips on youtube, but I was hoping there's a way to see whole episodes? Monologues and all?
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They are not released legally in any way or form. Probably due to the sheer number of episodes, and the fact that every episode is dated after about 3 days.


#127

Calleja

Calleja

What about illegally?


#128

Calleja

Calleja

Ok, I "acquired" the Late Night 10th anniversary special (Conan's, not Letterman's, duh) and it fucking rocked. It got me almost to tears, both for all the laughter and the knowledge that those days are gone now.

Fuck NBC.


#129

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

I haven't ever thought to look to them because of how horribly old episodes age. :(


#130

General Specific

General Specific

I'd forgotten about the Chuck Norris Lever.

Here's one that always makes me laugh. Quality sucks and embedding is disabled, though. Sorry.



#131

Calleja

Calleja

Some monologue jokes may age horribly because they're mostly about current news... but the rest of the episode is always fuckin awesome, be it 1996 or 2005. That's what I like about Conan, his best bits usually come when you least expect it. He's one comedian that realizes the best comedy is the unscripted kind and is not afraid to let circumstances take their random yet hilarious course.

We need to send the 10th anniversary special to the Fox executive board, no one can watch that and not instantly want Conan. :(


#132

Krisken

Krisken

Did that episode have pimpbot tell Tony Randal "I will cut you sucka" ??

The look on Tony Randal's face was priceless. So dry it was brilliant.


#133

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

The only episode you'd ever need is the one with Norm McDonald making the Chairman of the Bored joke.


#134

Calleja

Calleja

Fucking lying piece of shit Leno. Here's his "promise" to "avoid the bad blood" that happened when he got the Tonight Show vowing to step down for conan without drama.

http://tv.gawker.com/5450086/lenos-broken-promise-here-it-is-conan-its-yours

Someone should show this to him.


#135

Jay

Jay

On the golden globes.... Richy Gervais shot a one liner that had me bawling.

"*loud sigh*.... let's get on with it before NBC replaces me with Jay Leno."


#136

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

SeriousJay said:
On the golden globes.... Richy Gervais shot a one liner that had me bawling.

"*loud sigh*.... let's get on with it before NBC replaces me with Jay Leno."
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:D

That sounds like a meme in the making.


#137

Dave

Dave

Remember when Conan sold The Tonight Show on Craigslist? This time he's selling....HIMSELF!!!

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cas/1558679241.html

- Tall, slender redhead available for nighttime recreation.

- 6’4”, completely ripped, VERY Caucasian.

- Drapes match the carpet.

- Currently homeless, must meet at your place.

- Can go a whole hour (with scheduled breaks every 7-10 minutes).

- Fatties welcome.

- Not afraid to take two people at once, and then a musical guest.

- NOTE: If you want me to perform after midnight, it'll cost you!


#138

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

It was flagged for removal! :laugh:


#139

Dave

Dave

Glad I got it as soon as I did.

I'll bet it melted their servers.


#140



Shadazz

After reading this topic, it's nice to know that people won't give a butt fuck if Jay Leno is on at the same time as Conan. People will follow him to whatever channel he goes, and I know I'll be one of those people. Even though I get it a day late here in Australialand. :rolleyes:


#141



Shadazz

Dave said:
Remember when Conan sold The Tonight Show on Craigslist? This time he's selling....HIMSELF!!!

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cas/1558679241.html

- Tall, slender redhead available for nighttime recreation.

- 6’4”, completely ripped, VERY Caucasian.

- Drapes match the carpet.

- Currently homeless, must meet at your place.

- Can go a whole hour (with scheduled breaks every 7-10 minutes).

- Fatties welcome.

- Not afraid to take two people at once, and then a musical guest.

- NOTE: If you want me to perform after midnight, it'll cost you!
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Bahaha, how'd you discover that?


#142

Dave

Dave

Shadazz;330600][QUOTE=Dave said:
Remember when Conan sold The Tonight Show on Craigslist? This time he's selling....HIMSELF!!!

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cas/1558679241.html

- Tall, slender redhead available for nighttime recreation.

- 6’4”, completely ripped, VERY Caucasian.

- Drapes match the carpet.

- Currently homeless, must meet at your place.

- Can go a whole hour (with scheduled breaks every 7-10 minutes).

- Fatties welcome.

- Not afraid to take two people at once, and then a musical guest.

- NOTE: If you want me to perform after midnight, it'll cost you!
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Bahaha, how'd you discover that?[/QUOTE]

He showed it last night on his monologue. But after I posted the link and the screen grab Craigslist took it down. So you can really only see it here!


#143

Shakey

Shakey

Looks like Conan will make out OK. Sounds like he'll get $40 million and be able to go somewhere else in the fall. He may not be able to badmouth NBC over the whole deal though.


#144

Dave

Dave

If I were him I'd sign with someone else, tell NBC to keep their money and badmouth them each chance I got.


#145

Snuffleupagus

Snuffleupagus

Dave said:
If I were him I'd sign with someone else, tell NBC to keep their money and badmouth them each chance I got.
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Really? I'd sure as hell take 40 million for pretty much anything. Sell out Dave!


#146

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

I will be sad to see his show go. I will miss The Max Weinberg 7, who are by far the best band on late night tv. I hope he can somehow keep everyone together. I need to figure out someway to stick it to NBC.


#147

Calleja

Calleja

....Shadazz is a Leno supporter!! Surely that's grounds for instant bannification, right? RIGHT?


#148

Dave

Dave

Calleja said:
....Shadazz is a Leno supporter!! Surely that's grounds for instant bannification, right? RIGHT?
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Normally I'd say yes. But read her post again. She's a Team Coco person.


#149

Calleja

Calleja

Dave;330804][QUOTE=Calleja said:
....Shadazz is a Leno supporter!! Surely that's grounds for instant bannification, right? RIGHT?
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Normally I'd say yes. But read her post again. She's a Team Coco person.[/QUOTE]

Oh... huh. The sentence structure makes it completely ambiguous, though, she could be talking about Leno....


#150

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I'm just hoping Andy and him stick together.


#151

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Shegokigo said:
I'm just hoping Andy and him stick together.
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Yeah... because Andy's proven he can really make it out there on his own. :)


#152

Calleja

Calleja

It probably depends on whether Conan stays in LA or not. As far as I know, Andy has been living in LA for years now, and that the Tonight Show films there is the only reason he was able to join Conan again.


#153

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

I'll be in my bunk...crying.


#154



Shadazz

Dave;330804][QUOTE=Calleja said:
....Shadazz is a Leno supporter!! Surely that's grounds for instant bannification, right? RIGHT?
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Normally I'd say yes. But read her post again. She's a Team Coco person.[/QUOTE]

Correctamundo! I'm Team Coco. I meant follow Conan anywhere he goes.

edit: Since we're on the topic of late night show hosts, I've always though Steve Carell would make an awesome one. Just my two cents.


#155

drifter

drifter

Just saw this. Things really start cooking after the 1 min. mark



#156

Krisken

Krisken

I wish I knew what they were saying. Very bizarre to say the least.


#157

Krisken

Krisken

Thought I'd toss out one last note regarding the late show issue, a comment from Jay Leno's mouth, back in 2004

Jay \\"I want it back\\" Leno- 2004 said:
Time went by - there's all talk about Conan O'Brien, will he go to ABC will he go to one of these other networks. And they came to me and they said, \\"We don't want to lose Conan O'Brien.\\" And I said, \\"Okay, what does that mean?\\" And they said, \\"We think Conan would be a good replacement\\" - as I do - Conan is a gentleman, funny, the hottest late-night guy out there [applause]- and I said, \\"You know something - I don't want to see Conan go anywhere else.\\"

I'll be 59 years old...5 years from now, that's 12,000 shows, I'm not going anywhere tomorrow. And I said, \\"You know, there's really only one person who could have done this into his 60s, and that's Johnny Carson. And I think it's fair to say, I'm no Johnny Carson.\\" [\\"Awwww\\" from crowd.] No no no. So I called up
my buddy Jerry Seinfeld and said, \\"Jerry, what do you think?\\" And Jerry quit his show when it was the most popular. And I'm proud to say this show has been #1, we will keep it #1, and then in '09 I'll say, \\"Conan - take it over, it's yours.\\"

Because you know, you can do these things until they carry you out on a stretcher, or you can get out when you're still, you know, when you're still doing good — I'm not quitting show business! — but I realized, I'm not spending enough time with my cars. [Laughter] But anyway, this is not tomorrow, it's five years from today, and I want to say, I don't think there's a better choice — because, you know, when I took this show over, boy, there was a lot of animosity, between me and Dave and who's gonna get it — and quite frankly, a lot of — well, good friendships were permanently damaged.

And I don't want to see anybody ever have to go through that again. 'Cause this — you know, this show is like a dynasty. You hold it, and then you hand it off to the next person. And I don't want to see all the fighting, and all and \\"who's better?\\"and nasty things back and forth in the press.So, right now, here it is: Conan — it's yours. See you in five years, buddy. Clear enough? Enough said? All right.
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#158



Philosopher B.

Jesus.


#159

Dave

Dave

drifter said:
Just saw this. Things really start cooking after the 1 min. mark

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If you watch the whole thing it actually makes perfect sense. In fact, at the end it's the NBC guy and Leno AGAINST THE WORLD!!


#160

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

That thing looks like it was made using the same program as Xavier: Renegade Angel.


#161

Shakey

Shakey

Letterman's take on it last night was pretty good.



He laid into Leno for sticking around instead of going to another network if he really didn't want to leave TV. Poor Fallon, Letteman couldn't remember his name so he called him Lonnie Donigan....


#162

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

ahahahaha, brilliant.


#163

Dave

Dave

NBC to Conan: We shouldn't have to pay for your staff. Your leaving is the reason these 200 people are out of work. All of this posturing is nothing more than a PR ploy.


Me to NBC: Fuck off.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/01/20/news/NBC_returns_fire_against_Conan/index.htm?hpt=T2

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- NBC fired back at Conan O'Brien Wednesday as negotiations between the outgoing host of \"The Tonight Show\" and the network stalled over how much O'Brien's staff would be paid under a potential severance deal.

\"It was Conan's decision to leave NBC that resulted in nearly 200 of his staffers being out of work,\" a network representative said in an emailed statement. \"We have already agreed to pay millions of dollars to compensate every one of them.\"

O'Brien is reportedly close to signing a $40 million deal to walk away from \"The Tonight Show,\" which he has hosted since June. The network tried to push the show to a later time slot.

But talks have been held up by disagreements over, among other things, how much the show's staff is entitled to as well.

Gavin Polone, O'Brien's manager, told the New York Times that some wrangling over staff compensation was to be expected given the dismal job market. But, he added, \"We're fighting to do better for them.\"

The weeks-long dispute has roiled the entertainment industry and galvanized fans of the show, who held rallies in cities across the nation Tuesday in support of O'Brien.

According to NBC, O'Brien raised compensation issues a few days ago, and it is only one of many points still being negotiated.
\"This latest posturing is nothing more than a PR ploy,\" the NBC representative said.

The rebuke comes one day after O'Brien took the network to task during his nightly monologue, saying \"NBC is headed downhill faster than a fat guy chasing a runaway cheese-wheel.\"

O'Brien is widely expected to cede the show later this week. \"I'm just three days away from the biggest drinking binge in history,\" he said Tuesday night.
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#164

Krisken

Krisken

CynicismKills said:
ahahahaha, brilliant.
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Your avatar looks like it's chuckling. I love it.

Absolutely brilliant of Letterman.

Damn. NBC really doesn't get it, do they? It's amazing how completely clueless these execs are.


#165



Chibibar

Dave said:
NBC to Conan: We shouldn't have to pay for your staff. Your leaving is the reason these 200 people are out of work. All of this posturing is nothing more than a PR ploy.


Me to NBC: Fuck off.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/01/20/news/NBC_returns_fire_against_Conan/index.htm?hpt=T2

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- NBC fired back at Conan O'Brien Wednesday as negotiations between the outgoing host of \\"The Tonight Show\\" and the network stalled over how much O'Brien's staff would be paid under a potential severance deal.

\\"It was Conan's decision to leave NBC that resulted in nearly 200 of his staffers being out of work,\\" a network representative said in an emailed statement. \\"We have already agreed to pay millions of dollars to compensate every one of them.\\"

O'Brien is reportedly close to signing a $40 million deal to walk away from \\"The Tonight Show,\\" which he has hosted since June. The network tried to push the show to a later time slot.

But talks have been held up by disagreements over, among other things, how much the show's staff is entitled to as well.

Gavin Polone, O'Brien's manager, told the New York Times that some wrangling over staff compensation was to be expected given the dismal job market. But, he added, \\"We're fighting to do better for them.\\"

The weeks-long dispute has roiled the entertainment industry and galvanized fans of the show, who held rallies in cities across the nation Tuesday in support of O'Brien.

According to NBC, O'Brien raised compensation issues a few days ago, and it is only one of many points still being negotiated.
\\"This latest posturing is nothing more than a PR ploy,\\" the NBC representative said.

The rebuke comes one day after O'Brien took the network to task during his nightly monologue, saying \\"NBC is headed downhill faster than a fat guy chasing a runaway cheese-wheel.\\"

O'Brien is widely expected to cede the show later this week. \\"I'm just three days away from the biggest drinking binge in history,\\" he said Tuesday night.
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So NBC is trying make O'Brien look bad for "leaving" and potentially making 200 people losing their job? What if the show dies?? then 200 people will be out of the job anyways.


#166

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

I had read somewhere that Conan paid his staff out of pocket during the writer's strike.

How can you hate/blame this man, seriously.


#167

Calleja

Calleja

Krisken said:
Thought I'd toss out one last note regarding the late show issue, a comment from Jay Leno's mouth, back in 2004

Jay \\\"I want it back\\\" Leno- 2004 said:
Time went by - there's all talk about Conan O'Brien, will he go to ABC will he go to one of these other networks. And they came to me and they said, \\\"We don't want to lose Conan O'Brien.\\\" And I said, \\\"Okay, what does that mean?\\\" And they said, \\\"We think Conan would be a good replacement\\\" - as I do - Conan is a gentleman, funny, the hottest late-night guy out there [applause]- and I said, \\\"You know something - I don't want to see Conan go anywhere else.\\\"

I'll be 59 years old...5 years from now, that's 12,000 shows, I'm not going anywhere tomorrow. And I said, \\\"You know, there's really only one person who could have done this into his 60s, and that's Johnny Carson. And I think it's fair to say, I'm no Johnny Carson.\\\" [\\\"Awwww\\\" from crowd.] No no no. So I called up
my buddy Jerry Seinfeld and said, \\\"Jerry, what do you think?\\\" And Jerry quit his show when it was the most popular. And I'm proud to say this show has been #1, we will keep it #1, and then in '09 I'll say, \\\"Conan - take it over, it's yours.\\\"

Because you know, you can do these things until they carry you out on a stretcher, or you can get out when you're still, you know, when you're still doing good — I'm not quitting show business! — but I realized, I'm not spending enough time with my cars. [Laughter] But anyway, this is not tomorrow, it's five years from today, and I want to say, I don't think there's a better choice — because, you know, when I took this show over, boy, there was a lot of animosity, between me and Dave and who's gonna get it — and quite frankly, a lot of — well, good friendships were permanently damaged.

And I don't want to see anybody ever have to go through that again. 'Cause this — you know, this show is like a dynasty. You hold it, and then you hand it off to the next person. And I don't want to see all the fighting, and all and \\\"who's better?\\\"and nasty things back and forth in the press.So, right now, here it is: Conan — it's yours. See you in five years, buddy. Clear enough? Enough said? All right.
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I posted the video where Leno made that statement earlier in this thread. Someone really should show him that, the class-less douche.


#168

Shakey

Shakey

Looks like the deal was made. Conan once again is paying his staff out of his own pocket. So much for just being a PR stunt.

"In the end, Conan was appreciative of the steps NBC made to take care of his staff and crew and decided to supplement the severance they were getting out of his own pocket," Polone told TheWrap. "Now he just wants to get back on the air as quickly as possible."
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#169

Dave

Dave

Out of that story I thought this part was interesting:

In any case, NBC's exit package with O'Brien will buy -- at least for a while -- the host's silence. With the deal signed, O'Brien has agreed to a short period of time in which he can't give any media interviews or slam NBC publicly. NBC has also agreed to a media blackout.


He will be able to make NBC jokes on any new show he might host -- though the Peacock always has the option to sue for defamation if it wants to. This shouldn't be a problem for O'Brien, however, since the host is said to not to be interested in continuing his recent on-air NBC bashing or in getting into any future spats with the network.
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#170



Chazwozel

Snuffleupagus;330707][QUOTE=Dave said:
If I were him I'd sign with someone else, tell NBC to keep their money and badmouth them each chance I got.
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Really? I'd sure as hell take 40 million for pretty much anything. Sell out Dave![/QUOTE]


For 40 million dollars, I'm pretty sure I'd spend the night with Gary Busey.



HELLO LOVER!


#171

Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

40 million will buy a hell of a lot of mouthwash, that's for sure ;)


#172

Calleja

Calleja

Did you guys see the bit he did with the Bugatti Veyron last night?

Oh man, talk about a "screw you" to NBC... He literally just presented a Veyron, one of the most expensive cars in the world, with mouse ears and whiskers while the original master recording of the Stones' "Satisfaction" played. The sole reason? Making NBC pay 1.5 million dollars for the 20-second bit.

The most hilarious part is that they edited it out of the Hulu broadcast.

http://tv.gawker.com/5453348/cocos-...ay-big-while-leno-and-letterman-trade-insults


#173

evilmike

evilmike

In case anyone missed it:





#174

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

Definitely teared up during his farewell monologue.


#175

bhamv3

bhamv3

Krisken said:
I wish I knew what they were saying. Very bizarre to say the least.
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Huh, that was made by a Taiwanese newspaper. I could translate the whole thing, but I don't know how to edit videos so I can't put the translated subtitles in the correct places. And if I just post a translated transcript it'll lose a lot, without the corresponding images on screen.


#176

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

The Lovely Boner said:
Definitely teared up during his farewell monologue.
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Yeah, very emotional farewell. Talk about going out with a bang, though. I hope he lands something amazing in September.


#177

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Dammit, I have something in my eye... *sniffles*


#178

Krisken

Krisken

Excellent last episode. Not happy it's the last, but content with it. It's weird to see something go away that has been a part of my entire adult life.


#179

Espy

Espy

Watching it right now... Neil Young is on the stage. It's actually pretty damn sad...


#180

Calleja

Calleja

Oh man, when he almost teared up *I* almost teared up.

I'm sure I'm still not gay, but even I have to admit that Conan without a tie and rocking out with a guitar was hawt.


#181

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Can't watch anymore. NBC removed it.


#182

Espy

Espy

LOL! COWBELL!!!!!

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Shegokigo said:
Can't watch anymore. NBC removed it.
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Did you try Hulu? I'm watching it right now on there...


#183

evilmike

evilmike

Shegokigo said:
Can't watch anymore. NBC removed it.
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Fixed.


#184



TwoBit

Free bird AND more cowbell. Does it get any better?


#185

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Yeah, there goes the only reason I've ever watched late night TV. Conan's been around since I've been a child and has always been my favorite.


#186



Twitch

I couldn't watch the last bit with Freebird. I can't listen to that song without crying.


#187

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Oh man... Conan held himself together except for one split second when he almost lost composure.

That one second was all it took.
:cry:


But then cowbell made it all better.

Does anyone know who everyone in the band was? The two guys from ZZ top were easy to recognize, it almost looked like Billy Joel on piano, but they never really gave a clear shot of him. The rest looked vaguely familiar, but never showed a clear enough shot for me to recognize them.


#188

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

Beck was on guitar. The blond hippie was Ferrell's real-life wife


#189



KenjiFinster

Let me see... Ben Harper, Elvis Costello, Beck and Billy Gibbons were playing with the Max Weinberg 7.
And that last episode was television at its best.


#190

Calleja

Calleja

I WANT CONAN BAAAACK :cry:


#191

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

KenjiFinster said:
Let me see... Ben Harper, Elvis Costello, Beck and Billy Gibbons were playing with the Max Weinberg 7.
And that last episode was television at its best.
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I didn't see Costello. :O


#192



KenjiFinster

CynicismKills;333188][QUOTE=KenjiFinster said:
Let me see... Ben Harper, Elvis Costello, Beck and Billy Gibbons were playing with the Max Weinberg 7.
And that last episode was television at its best.
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I didn't see Costello. :O[/QUOTE]

Watching again, I got confused. It was Jimmy Vivino. Same glasses.


#193

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

KenjiFinster;333201][QUOTE=CynicismKills;333188][QUOTE=KenjiFinster said:
Let me see... Ben Harper, Elvis Costello, Beck and Billy Gibbons were playing with the Max Weinberg 7.
And that last episode was television at its best.
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I didn't see Costello. :O[/QUOTE]

Watching again, I got confused. It was Jimmy Vivino. Same glasses.[/QUOTE]

I made the same mistake when I watched it at broadcast. I thought he was Elvis Costello until they showed him again and realized it was Jimmy from the tonight show band.


#194

Piotyr

Piotyr

I have to agree with Conan. That, at the end, there, was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen.


#195

Shakey

Shakey

I wonder if his deal would prevent him from doing free content for places like Funny or Die or Youtube. It would be a good way to keep people interested, and show what he can do if he's given the freedom to be himself.


#196

Calleja

Calleja

He just needs to land another TV show, so I can religiously watch.


#197

phil

phil

I'd imagine he could do web content so long as it wasn't for any network or anything. I'd love to see something like Conan doing the show out of his basement as if nothing had really changed.

I just really wonder about the intellectual property issue. I'm sure he'll be fine if he does end up having to give it up, but that's still just rubbing salt in the wound. What they fuck is NBC going to do with the rights to Conando?


#198

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

phil said:
... is NBC going to do with the rights to Conando?
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Use it to sell the complete half season of the Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien on DVD&Blu Ray.


#199

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

sixpackshaker;333715][QUOTE=phil said:
... is NBC going to do with the rights to Conando?
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Use it to sell the complete half season of the Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien on DVD&Blu Ray.[/QUOTE]

There is never really gonna be DVD sets of Late Night full episodes. They're way too dated. Even after a couple of months. Although NBC might get away with it to try and capitalize on this "Team Conan" stuff that will fizzle out well before he's back on the air anywhere.


#200

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

I hope he develops a prime time comedy. I want to see him around more, but I don't think Fox will be a good match. 10:30 E/9:30 C will not have the drawing power that will pay Conan's salary. The affiliates will continue making a ton of money off reruns of The Simpson's or Cops.


#201

Frank

Frankie Williamson

There's a torrent on Demonoid that has every episode of the Tonight Show Conan has done.

It weighs in at 60 gigabytes.


#202

Shakey

Shakey

Ten bucks says it's actually 60 gig of gay porn.


#203

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Man, that means I'd have to watch the whole thing to be sure that there is no Tonight Show material there.


#204

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

Shakey said:
Ten bucks says it's actually 60 gig of gay porn.
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COULD YOU TELL THE DIFFERENCE


#205

Shakey

Shakey

Probably not. It's one of those things you'd download and never watch.


#206

Calleja

Calleja

I can tell you right now, off the bat, that I watched every single episode of The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien that was ever aired. Not produced cause they scrapped most of the concussion episode (and, come to think of it, Teri Hatcher never went back!!), but every single one they aired, no exception.

The internet rules.


#207

Shakey

Shakey

Too bad internet views don't count towards ratings, which is all that counts.


#208

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Shakey said:
Too bad internet views don't count towards ratings, which is all that counts.
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This is the problem with the Nelson system. It doesn't take into account Hulu views, DVR recordings, or people torrenting shows... as well as being disproportionally adjusted towards white, middle class families.


#209

Shakey

Shakey

AshburnerX;334223][QUOTE=Shakey said:
Too bad internet views don't count towards ratings, which is all that counts.
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This is the problem with the Nelson system. It doesn't take into account Hulu views, DVR recordings, or people torrenting shows... as well as being disproportionally adjusted towards white, middle class families.[/QUOTE]

The networks don't make much off of internet views though. Companies aren't going to want to buy tv ads for a show that no one watches on tv.


#210

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

AshburnerX;334223][QUOTE=Shakey said:
Too bad internet views don't count towards ratings, which is all that counts.
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This is the problem with the Nelson system. It doesn't take into account Hulu views, DVR recordings, or people torrenting shows... as well as being disproportionally adjusted towards white, middle class families.[/QUOTE]

The Neilsen ratings are good for measuring how many people watch the show live, with the ads that support television. They couldn't and shouldn't and will never give two fucks how popular it is on torrents, since the people watching on torrents DON'T FUCKING MAKE THEM A DIME.


#211

ElJuski

ElJuski

I thought they started recording who watched particular shows after they aired on legal websites?


#212



Qonas

They have started collecting the data but nobody makes use of or knows how to make use of it yet. Remember that was the big "reason" behind the writer's strike; they were afraid once somebody did figure out 'new media' and how to apply it, the writers would be left out.


#213

Calleja

Calleja

Shakey said:
Too bad internet views don't count towards ratings, which is all that counts.
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Well, there's no legal way to watch Conan down here. We get Letterman on a weird cable channel that calls itself "American Network", but no Conan. Or Leno. Or Ferguson. Or Kimmel. Or Fallon. So what am I stealing? I actually promoted the shit out of Conan's show to my 544 twitter followers, that should get me free viewings, dammit.


#214

ElJuski

ElJuski

NBC should realize the potential in advertising they have in a Mexican dude's twitter account. :p


#215

Shakey

Shakey

Calleja;334289][QUOTE=Shakey said:
Too bad internet views don't count towards ratings, which is all that counts.
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Well, there's no legal way to watch Conan down here. We get Letterman on a weird cable channel that calls itself "American Network", but no Conan. Or Leno. Or Ferguson. Or Kimmel. Or Fallon. So what am I stealing? I actually promoted the shit out of Conan's show to my 544 twitter followers, that should get me free viewings, dammit.[/QUOTE]

I didn't say you were stealing. It's just one of the big problems for shows targeting younger audiences. So many prefer to watch online through various means, or DVR it and skip commercials. This means that advertisers aren't as interested in supporting the show, and it gets axed.


#216

Calleja

Calleja

what am *I* supposed to do about it besides pimping the hell out of the show?


#217

Shakey

Shakey

Pimp harder.


#218

ElJuski

ElJuski

Calleja said:
what am *I* supposed to do about it besides pimping the hell out of the show?
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Pimping is fine--and you should do it. The way you sounded though was that you were doing SO much for Conan, using your twitter ;P


#219

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Totally ElJuski, everyone knows the internet impacts nothing, ever.


#220

Krisken

Krisken

Shegokigo said:
Totally ElJuski, everyone knows the internet impacts nothing, ever.
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True, but it will never give you up.


#221

Cajungal

Cajungal

Nor let you down.


#222

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Cajungal said:
Nor let you down.
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#223

CynicismKills

CynicismKills


This thread is getting silly, I'm going to have to shut it down.


#224

ElJuski

ElJuski

Shegokigo said:
Totally ElJuski, everyone knows the internet impacts nothing, ever.
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YOU ARE CORRECT

THAT IS TOTALLY WHAT I SAID


#225

Calleja

Calleja

ElJuski;334514][QUOTE=Calleja said:
what am *I* supposed to do about it besides pimping the hell out of the show?
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Pimping is fine--and you should do it. The way you sounded though was that you were doing SO much for Conan, using your twitter ;P[/QUOTE]

YOU ARE CORRECT

THAT IS TOTALLY WHAT I SAID


#226

Shegokigo

Shegokigo


!


#227

strawman

strawman

phil said:
I just really wonder about the intellectual property issue. I'm sure he'll be fine if he does end up having to give it up, but that's still just rubbing salt in the wound. What they fuck is NBC going to do with the rights to Conando?
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For every act that NBC let him do, he's got 500 more that he's been mulling over in his mind. Every comedian has a bunch of material they are thinking about, and in fact what you see may not be their best material. It's usually not their favorite, either.

So wherever he goes, he'll have new, good material. I suspect part of the reason NBC made him give up the rights is that that they'll have exclusive, full, and clear rights to the material already recorded, and they won't have to worry about him or his assignees suing them for redistributing and profiting off the material later. It's a standard transfer of ownership.


#228

General Specific

General Specific

It's so that later on, they can release the "Best 7 months of Conan O'Brien on the Tonight Show" on boxed set DVD


#229

ElJuski

ElJuski

Calleja;335035][QUOTE=ElJuski;334514][QUOTE=Calleja said:
what am *I* supposed to do about it besides pimping the hell out of the show?
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Pimping is fine--and you should do it. The way you sounded though was that you were doing SO much for Conan, using your twitter ;P[/QUOTE]

YOU ARE CORRECT

THAT IS TOTALLY WHAT I SAID[/QUOTE]



Gatdamn I was only ribbin you, boy!


#230

Calleja

Calleja

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. You don't turn down golden opportunities like that, no matter who's on the receiving end, dude. If my own mother set herself up so beautifully I'd have no choice but to unleash the pwnation on the very woman who birthed me.

Y'know?


#231

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Calleja said:
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. You don't turn down golden opportunities like that, no matter who's on the receiving end, dude. If my own mother set herself up so beautifully I'd have no choice but to unleash the pwnation on the very woman who birthed me.

Y'know?
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Mama Callaballawalla must be so proud... :p


#232

Fun Size

Fun Size

http://twitter.com/conanobrien

First tweet:
Today I interviewed a squirrel in my backyard and then threw to commercial. Somebody help me.


#233

Espy

Espy

Fun Size said:
http://twitter.com/conanobrien

First tweet:
Today I interviewed a squirrel in my backyard and then threw to commercial. Somebody help me.
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His bio: I had a show. Then I had a different show. Now I have a Twitter account.


This is gold. I'm so excited to be following him on twitter.


#234

Fun Size

Fun Size

Yeah. I pretty much follow people from around these parts, but this....this is gold.


#235

Calleja

Calleja

I don't get it... suddenly from everywhere I hear about Conan's twitter account and it's even a verified account and everything... but how the hell did he announce it? Verify it even? Is there something I'm missing?


#236

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

Wait I thought everyone forgot about him already


#237

Espy

Espy

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/03/02/leno-crushes-letterman-in-return/43507


Lame. I guess it's to be expected though.


#238

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

I am stunned by the lack of taste in the American public.


#239

Fun Size

Fun Size

sixpackshaker said:
I am stunned by the lack of taste in the American public.
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Really? I found most of them tasted like pork.


#240

Calleja

Calleja

We'll see how he's doing after the olympics and the "just came back" boosts.


#241

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Fun Size;348180][QUOTE=sixpackshaker said:
I am stunned by the lack of taste in the American public.
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Really? I found most of them tasted like pork.[/QUOTE]

I did not say a thing about flavor, most of mine tasted like fish.


#242

Piotyr

Piotyr

Espy said:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/03/02/leno-crushes-letterman-in-return/43507


Lame. I guess it's to be expected though.
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Worse than Conan's opening night, and worse than Leno's primetime opening night. If anything, the number has to be concerning, because you'd expect Jay's fans to flock to support him and get him a ratings boost, and that bump wasn't very high.


#243

Calleja

Calleja

Calleja said:
I don't get it... suddenly from everywhere I hear about Conan's twitter account and it's even a verified account and everything... but how the hell did he announce it? Verify it even? Is there something I'm missing?
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This is a great question, Calleja. Does anyone have the answer?

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This is probably the single greatest tweet I have had the privilege to have show on my time line. Its awesome simplicity and flawless execution give it an instant favorite.

http://twitter.com/ConanOBrien/statuses/9889419456

If you can't see the picture over at twitpic click on "view full size". The guy didn't even have to show his face! Gold.


#244

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Is anybody else imagining all of Conan's writers, now out of work, are bunking up in his house like some kind of wacky situation comedy? I can imagine them all debating what to do for breakfast:

"He should definitely eat cereal."
"Cereal hasn't been funny since the 80's. He needs IHOP."
"Oh! And then he can get Belgian waffles and do jokes about Jean Claude Van Dam!"
"Van Dam Jokes? He hasn't done a movie in years!"
"Whatever we're gonna make him eat, we'd better do it fast. He needs to go pick up his unemployment check today. It's going to be GOLD!"

And in the background Conan's eating cereal, looking really bored.


#245

Steve

Steve

Espy said:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/03/02/leno-crushes-letterman-in-return/43507


Lame. I guess it's to be expected though.
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When his show went to the earlier format didn't it do well the first couple of show? Then ratings slid downhill. There was so much hype around NBC screwing over Conan I'm sure a lot of people watched just to say they watched. Give him a few weeks and lets see where his ratings are. Hopefully Fox will pick up Conan and let him go head to head with Leno. I couldn't imagine Leno beating Conan for the young male demographic.


#246

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

Espy said:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/03/02/leno-crushes-letterman-in-return/43507


Lame. I guess it's to be expected though.
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Holy shitcakes with tea and crumpets! Is that his real chin? My God, he could pleasure a woman with that facial protrusion!


#247

Calleja

Calleja

SOMEONE TELL ME HOW CONAN OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED HIS TWITTER ACCOUNT AND GOT IT VERIFIED AND EVERYTHING WITH ONLY ONE TWEET!!

*breathes*


#248

Fun Size

Fun Size

Presumably, it was all arranged by his management for publicity reasons. That's typically how these things work no?

That or he's a god. Whichever.


#249

phil

phil

http://www.movieline.com/2010/03/ticketmaster-confirms-conan-obrien-show-coco-nation-rejoices.php


#250

Calleja

Calleja

YEEEESSSS!!!!


WOOHOOO!!!

YOU GO, COCO!!

Oh man, that literally made me pump my arms in celebration. I know I won't realistically get a chance to go see him, but it's such good news that's he's going to be out there, which will only help the odds of him landing another show.


#251



Philosopher B.

Sweet. Good to know he's keeping busy.


#252

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Well, he's got to stay in practice until September.


#253

Espy

Espy

If he swings through here I'll go.


#254

Piotyr

Piotyr

The whole Sarah Killen thing is amazing.


#255

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Team CoCo Presents the Legally Prohibited from being Funny on Television Tour!


#256

evilmike

evilmike

Word is that Conan isn't making anything off the tour.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/11/conan-obrien-tour-tonight-show-team-coco-nbc/

Also:


#257



Philosopher B.

Lol! That's awesome.


#258

Krisken

Krisken

Just another reason why Conan is king, and Leno is a chump.


#259

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Conan is a class act. Did Leno even care about his crew when he moved locations to film his other show? Something tells me he didn't.


#260

Dave

Dave

Just thought I'd resurrect this thread to show that Slash (from G&R) was on Leno the other night...Wearing an "I'm with Coco" button!

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-...h-Coco-button-while-on-Jay-Lenos-Tonight-Show


#261

Calleja

Calleja

It's so cute that Dave thinks he has to specify who Slash is. It's like my dad once asking if I knew who the Rolling Stones were. :heart:


#262

Baerdog

Baerdog

Well he could have been talking about this Slash...


#263

Krisken

Krisken

Dave said:
Just thought I'd resurrect this thread to show that Slash (from G&R) was on Leno the other night...Wearing an \"I'm with Coco\" button!

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-...h-Coco-button-while-on-Jay-Lenos-Tonight-Show
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I think the saddest bit in that is that NBC is so butt hurt by their own actions that they have to try to scrub Conan's image away. I mean, seriously, wtf? They're treating him like a girlfriend that they dumped and then when the girlfriend leaves on good terms they turn around and scratch out all their pictures, burn the gifts, and pretend they she didn't exist.


#264

Krisken

Krisken

An interesting thing happened on Conan's tour...



#265

Dave

Dave

That was....wonderful.

I love the "Legally Prohibited" on the drums.


#266

Calleja

Calleja

Yeah, they're now the "legally prohibited band"... until TBS, I'd guess. I hope they don't become the "TBS Orchestra" or something lame like that.


#267

phil

phil

http://tv.gawker.com/5531817/jay-leno-takes-shot-at-conan-obrien-and-for-the-first-time-his-fans


#268

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

phil said:
http://tv.gawker.com/5531817/jay-leno-takes-shot-at-conan-obrien-and-for-the-first-time-his-fans
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I'm not a Leno fan, but that article is retarded.


#269

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Conan did a segment on 60 minutes a few days back too, where he did his first interview since leaving the show. He understands that it all came down to money (Leno's Contract was 150 million and Conan's was like 50, so they bought out the cheaper contract when Conan didn't want to move the show) but he also admitted that Leno hasn't once tried to talk to him during all of this and that it was pretty classless of him to try and take back the timeslot and show.

So at least his real feelings about it are out.


#270

evilmike

evilmike

Conan at Google:



#271

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Jesus, his hair has become a charicature of itself.


#272

Krisken

Krisken

That was awesome to watch evilmike. Thanks for posting it. :)


#273

Dave

Dave

Damn you! I came in to post the Conan/Google thing.


#274

evilmike

evilmike

Conan vs Jay
http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards...-fallon-bill-maher-monique-emmys-tv-news.html


#275

evilmike

evilmike

Team Coco News: Conan O'Brien's 'Tonight Show' gets an Emmy nod, Jay Leno's 'Tonight Show' doesn't


#276

Dave

Dave

:rofl:


#277

Krisken

Krisken

That's some tough competition! I don't think I would mind any of these shows winning. Good luck, Coco.


#278

Fun Size

Fun Size

From Conan's Twitter:

Congrats to my staff on 4 Emmy nominations. This bodes well for the future of The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien
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#279

Calleja

Calleja

I love that man.


#280

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Wow, no nomination for Craig Ferguson?


#281

evilmike

evilmike

This story really is the gift that keeps on giving.

Conan O’Brien gets shafted again, Emmy Category won’t be televised » Entertainment Breaking News | Wire Update | News Wire -

Stay classy NBC.


#282

Krisken

Krisken

Can a network be considered childish and stuck up? Egads. Pretty sad.


#283

Dave

Dave

Wow. I wonder why they did that? Because nobody would ever find out, right...?


#284

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

I can't remember that Emmy category ever being televised.


#285

tegid

tegid

Apparently the program is nominated to 4 categories and the least important is not being televised?


#286

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I assure you... it'll be recorded by SOMEBODY and put up on Youtube within hours if he wins.


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