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Marvel vs Capcom 3

#1

Troll

Troll

The last thread for this game is closed, and I thought it was time we gave this game some love.

Capcom announced 4 new fighters at SDCC. Two of them were expected, while the other two are pleasant surprises. I cannot wait for this game.

Anyone else looking forward to it? Any particular NEW characters you want to see added? A friend of mine is hoping for Megaman X and/or Zero, while I'm hoping to see Arthur from Ghosts and Goblins (I know, it'll never happen).


#2



Jiarn

Anyonelse notice the VIEWTIFUL comment during one of the combos?

Guess we'll see Joe on the CAPCOM side soon.


#3

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Troll said:
The last thread for this game is closed, and I thought it was time we gave this game some love.

Capcom announced 4 new fighters at SDCC. Two of them were expected, while the other two are pleasant surprises. I cannot wait for this game.

Anyone else looking forward to it? Any particular NEW characters you want to see added? A friend of mine is hoping for Megaman X and/or Zero, while I'm hoping to see Arthur from Ghosts and Goblins (I know, it'll never happen).
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If we get a Megaman, it's ether going to be classic or Rockman Volnutt from Legends. If it's Zero, I suspect it'll be Megaman Zero and not Classic Zero. Arthur probably won't be included, mainly because almost all of his moves would be ranged. I could see Red Aremer/Firebrand though...

I'd love to see Amaterasu from Okami or Gean from Godhand. Gean would be a GREAT choice... he's already got lots of fighting moves they could use and his God Reel Supers would make great ranged and Super moves. Ammy would be a lot of fun as well, with her various weapons and brush strokes.

On the Marvel side, I'd like to see Molly/Bruiser/Princess Powerful from Runaways, but I doubt we'll get her. Squirrel Girl would be a fun counterpart to Deadpool though!

Jiarn said:
Anyonelse notice the VIEWTIFUL comment during one of the combos?

Guess we'll see Joe on the CAPCOM side soon.
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Probably. He WAS in Tatsunoko Vs Capcom, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was in this as well.


#4



Jiarn

You realize that you contradict yourself that we won't get Arthur because he'd mostly be ranged, but we'll probably have Megaman again.


#5

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Jiarn said:
You realize that you contradict yourself that we won't get Arthur because he'd mostly be ranged, but we'll probably have Megaman again.
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That's actually a good point. Objection Withdrawn :D However, as much as I hope we DO get a Ghosts and Goblins character, we probably won't (or he'll just be a Helper character again like he was in Marvel vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes).


#6

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

New Leak! Amaterasu and Thor are going to be in Marvel Vs. Capcom 3!

Apparently Marvel had some screenshots on their website with them in them, as well as some character art. I'm very happy Amaterasu is getting so much love lately.


#7

Troll

Troll

I never thought they would put Thor in for fear of him being too similar to the Hulk. I should have realized they wouldn't miss an opportunity to capitalize on the film. Awesome!


#8

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Apparently somebody leaked a list of the characters a while back, but we won't be able to confirm it for quite some time. Here's the leaked list... I'll bold the ones already confirmed.

Marvel:
- Spider-Man (He's in a background)
- Hulk
- Wolverine
- Mr Fantastic
- Captain America
- Iron Man
- War Machine (Supposed to be an Iron Man alternate Costume)
- Elektra
- Thor
- X-23
- Magneto
- Dr Doom
- Shuma-Gorath
- Emma Frost
- Deadpool
- Super Skrull
- Taskmaster
- Juggernaut
- She-Hulk

Capcom:
- Ryu
- Mike Haggar
- Frank West
- Chuck (alternate Frank West costume, not own character)
- Spencer (Bionic Commando)
- Dante
- Chris
- Morrigan
- Arthur
- Amaterasu
- Albert Wesker (I'm gonna bet this is going to be an alternate costume for Chris)
- Zero
- Chun-li
- Viewtiful Joe
- Trish
- Tron Bonne
- Hsien-Ko
- Akuma
- Felicia


#9



Jiarn

Personally I really dislike non-humanoid characters in balanced fighting games. They always seem massively out of place, with bad hit boxes and usually worthless abilities/combos. Here's hoping he's more of a gimick character ala Kobun than any real use in game.


#10

Troll

Troll

Hmmm. I don't like some of those Marvel choices, and I feel they left out some better characters. We'll see if that list is true.


#11

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

New Comic Con shirt shows more!

Well Joe is all but confirmed... but it looks like Dormammu is another Marvel pick, so that list might not be final. However, some of the artwork shows silhouettes that might be Frank, so he COULD be a pick in this.


#12



Overflight

Emma Frost has been disproved by the devs and I think Tron Bonne being in the background (and I mean ACTUALLY there, not like Spidey who's in a balloon) is indicative that she may NOT show up.

Getting a little worried about these rumors of Mega Man not being in the game. That's just dumb.

Also, from what I heard one of the devs is fighting tooth and nail to get Dr. Strange in there.


#13

Troll

Troll

Overflight said:
Emma Frost has been disproved by the devs and I think Tron Bonne being in the background (and I mean ACTUALLY there, not like Spidey who's in a balloon) is indicative that she may NOT show up.

Getting a little worried about these rumors of Mega Man not being in the game. That's just dumb.

Also, from what I heard one of the devs is fighting tooth and nail to get Dr. Strange in there.
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I agree no Megaman is dumb, but I'm willing to bet he will be added in future DLC or "Super Marvel vs. Capcom 3" that gets released in a year...


#14

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Thor Gameplay:


Amaterasu Gameplay:


#15

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Man, I am chomping at the bit to play me some Thor. Also Amaterasu's ultimate is horrifying. A full-screen attack? She's got ridiculous range, too.

Super Skrull looks interesting, and I think they've powered up Doom some, too. The video I saw of him seemed to have a lot more moves than he did in MvC2.


#16

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Yeah, it's looking like Ammy is going to be the cheapest character ever... but I can live with that, as she's a god (and because Thor gets a full screen super as well).


#17

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I find it funny that Amaterasu's even in this, since combat is one of the least significant parts of Okami. I think I use the paintbrush in battle as much as Ammy's weapons.


#18



Jiarn

Again, it's a gimmick character that won't see heavy play in the more serious circles. Especially after seeing that gameplay video of it.

Alot of characters in MvC2 had full screen supers that were terrible.


#19

Frank

Frankie Williamson

X-23? Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame, especially when there are dozens and dozens of awesome Marvel characters yet to grace a Capcom fighting game.


#20

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Jiarn said:
Again, it's a gimmick character that won't see heavy play in the more serious circles. Especially after seeing that gameplay video of it.

Alot of characters in MvC2 had full screen supers that were terrible.
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Nobody cares about the serious circles, except the people in them. And considering the fact that the roster of the previous game was whittled down to like 4 "usable" characters by the serious circles, this is probably for the best. Besides, Ammy's ability to switch between 3 styles of combat (mirror-short, sword-mid, and beads-long) will give her great flexibility in the right hands.


#21

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Serious circles are for tourneys and the people it's never any fun to play against, honestly. The last "serious" player I played MvC2 against employed infinite loop combos with Chun Li and spent more time complaining about the game than anyone else could enjoying it. No thanks, I'll stick to casual enjoyment with friends.

More to the point, though, it's nice to see characters like Iron Man and Doctor Doom get what looks to be a more fleshed-out array of moves. I like Iron Man in MvC2 but he felt pretty flat compared to characters like Tron Bonne or others made new for MvC2.


#22



Jiarn

Well I guess I'm not entitled to my opinion on the subject as much as everyonelse?

I didn't say it wasn't going to be fun for other people to play with or against. I was making a comment based on my experience and the style I play.

As for how many were useable in (as you put it) serious circles? It was about 9-11 but again I can't fault you for not knowing that.

I wasn't attempting to sound like I was down-talking or being arrogant. It was just an observation from my stand point, I apologize if that upset or offended anyone.


#23

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Jiarn said:

As for how many were useable in (as you put it) serious circles? It was about 9-11 but again I can't fault you for not knowing that.
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This might just be my experience, but I have NEVER seen anyone not a use some combination of Storm, Cable, Magneto, and Sentinel in MvC2.


#24



Jiarn

Cable, Sentinel, Storm, Magneto, Captain Commando, Iron Man, Cyclops, Psylocke, Spiral, Doom, Strider are the most played at the high end.

The reason you probably saw so much of those simplistic teams you mentioned was because they were the teams middle tier players could manage and destroy casual players with.

Youtube people like Sanford, Duc, Justin Wong, Ricky Ortiz, or Chunksta if you'd like more than my word on it.

Again I don't blame or hold it against you that you were unaware of this, and you're very right: The higher tier players are a MUCH smaller player base than the casual player. If they get a kick out of gimmick characters, then there should be more.

Characters like Kobun, Dan, Sabertooth, Wolverine etc were fun to play sure. They just weren't my style.


#25

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

JP Marvel 2 involves a lot more characters than US. One of my favorite teams was Omega Red/Juggernaut/Bulleta.

THC Bulleta and Juggernaut for ~90% of Sentinel's life.


#26



Jiarn

Ok I have to address this. I was neg repped saying: You're being defensive and arrogant.

Did it really come off like that? I genuinely apologized and tried to make it clear that it was simply a matter of opinion and play style. Again I'm sorry for whoever it was that I truly offended and seem to have rubbed the wrong way.

Thank you Allen for reminding me of that as well. Taking the high end players on the JP side, you add about 6 more Top Tier characters to my list.


#27

Shannow

Shannow

:pud:


#28

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I'm thinking I might only be defending Ammy because I love playing widget characters. For instance, I've always favored Dan Hibiki anytime I could get him, as he simply played so much differently than most of the other characters in Street Fighter. Then again, I'm told he's much more like a standard character in SF4 so that may change if I ever get a chance to play.


#29

Troll

Troll

I don't want to worry about the tournament viability of each character, and I don't want every character to have similar stats, shape, style, etc. So, I like Amaterasu. I want a lot of variety from a game like this. I'm quite happy with the revealed characters so far (all of them!), and though I have concerns about some of the rumored characters, I'm pleased with the direction this game is taking.


#30

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

So lets make some predictions for the future... how about everybody names a character for each side they think could be included in MvC3.
Let's leave out Viewtiful Joe and Dormammu, since they've been all but confirmed at this point.

My pick for Marvel are: She-Hulk. Hulk may already be included, but the Marvel side is dangerously lacking in female characters. She's probably the most likely candidate for it.

My pick for Capcom are: Frank West/Chuck. It's true that he was already in Tatsunoko Vs Capcom, but Capcom needs a "fun" character to match Marvel's Deadpool and Frank fits the bill. Sure, canonically he might not be silly, but considering the absolutely crazy things you can do with him in Dead Rising, I think he works.


#31

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

You know what would sell me? Have the Nextwave team as bonus unlockables. I'd put down money for it right now.

EDIT: Rocket Raccoon would also be acceptable.

On the Capcom side, I know it would make no damn sense, but how about Phoenix Wright, or Apollo Justice?


#32

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

SpecialKO said:
You know what would sell me? Have the Nextwave team as bonus unlockables. I'd put down money for it right now.
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I dunno... has Nextwave appeared in anything recent? I expect Marvel to treat this as a marketing tool and nothing more, personally.


#33

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Last I heard Phoenix Wright was out due to an issue they had in Tats/Capcom, where his shouts (Objection, etc) were much shorter in Japanese than English, so balancing him was nearly impossible.

I'd like to see more Darkstalkers, myself. Talbain would be awesome, but leaning more to absurd/silly Hsien-Ko would be cool. I doubt they'd do it, but using the Hero from one of the Breath of Fire games would be awesome as hell. Mid-range, play similar to Hayato in MvC2, and have his Dragon forms as Supers. Marvel side I'd love for them to pull Cyclops in again, or go a new direction and bring in Beast. Hawkeye might be fun, too.


#34

Troll

Troll

Marvel: Spiderman and Magneto seem like sure bets.

Capcom: Frank West is all but guaranteed in my mind

Who do I want to see?
Capcom: As I mentioned, I want to see Arthur from G&G and some version of Megaman and/or Zero. I would also like a few more Dalkstalkers.
Marvel: I want to see Dr. Strange. Bad.

Who do I really, really not want to see?
Capcom: No one, I'm pretty open to any character.
Marvel: Mr. Fantastic or Emma Frost, because I've always hated the characters. I think their powers would be lame in a fighting game, too. And, in the name of all that is holy, I don't even want to hear X-23 mentioned or have her show up. One of the stupidest characters of all time in my opinion.


#35

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Mr. Fantastic isn't going to be in because Dhalsim is probably in there.

Waiting for them to confirm Spiral.
From DS, I want to see Zabel because I hate Capcom's animators.


#36

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

AshburnerX;419959][QUOTE=SpecialKO said:
You know what would sell me? Have the Nextwave team as bonus unlockables. I'd put down money for it right now.
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I dunno... has Nextwave appeared in anything recent? I expect Marvel to treat this as a marketing tool and nothing more, personally.[/QUOTE]

The Guardians of the Galaxy, then. Rocket Raccoon!



Nova would also be awesome, but I'm in a quirky mood, and Nova would be more of a straight-up kind of fighter.


#37



Jiarn

Spiral being one of my all-time favorites, I'm rooting for her entry.


#38

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

I'm not sure who I would like to see from the Capcom side that hasn't been mentioned already. Maybe someone from the Power Stone series.

From Marvel maybe Daredevil, Nightcrawler, or Doc Oc.


#39



Jiarn

I'd like Thanos back on Marvel as well. He was easily my favorite casual team Assist character for insane combos and connections that shouldn't work.

Capcom side? Hm, I'd take Katt over Hero if we're thinking Breath of Fire. Would be a nice replacement for Son-Son.


#40

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I definitely want Zero in the game. That would be right up my alley.


#41

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Jiarn said:
I'd like Thanos back on Marvel as well. He was easily my favorite casual team Assist character for insane combos and connections that shouldn't work.

Capcom side? Hm, I'd take Katt over Hero if we're thinking Breath of Fire. Would be a nice replacement for Son-Son.
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That's a great idea, actually. She was one of my party staples in BoF2.


#42

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Troll said:
And, in the name of all that is holy, I don't even want to hear X-23 mentioned or have her show up. One of the stupidest characters of all time in my opinion.
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Why the hate for X-23? As far as distaff counterparts go, she's fairly interesting and she's different enough as a character that she stands on her own in the comics. She's certainly better than a lot of the people she's teamed up with over the years, especially some of her classmates.

Does that make her deserving of an appearance in MvC3? Probably not, but they've done far worse with some of their picks in the other games...

Oh and another person I'd love to see on the Marvel side: Domino.


#43



Overflight

Troll: Don't worry. Like I said Emma Frost has been confirmed as not being in the game and so has the entire Fantastic Four (this was probably why they put Super Skrull in the game)

Who I'd like to see:

Capcom: I hope they don't ditch Megaman and while Zero would be cool, I think Bass would be even cooler. There are also rumors that Albert Wesker will be in the game. Hope that is true (and not as a pallet swap of Chris). Also, despite this having a very small chance of happening, I'd like to see either Dan or Garcian Smith from Killer7

Marvel: Doctor Octopus and Bullseye. Got to get some nice villains in there besides Doom. Doctor Strange would be nice too, especially since Dormammu is in the game.

Who I DON'T want to see

Capcom: The rumored cast list that doesn't omit Megaman entirely usually lists him as Megaman Volnutt (AKA the one from Megaman Legends). Please no. If you're going with Alternate version of Megaman, go with either Megaman X or MegaMan.EXE

Marvel: Any of the lame and/or inexplicably popular villains from Spider-Man's rogues gallery, namely Mysterio, Rhino or the Shocker (I don't think the Shocker is THAT lame but I don't think he'd fit in) X-23 is a no go for me as well: you already have Wolverine in there, what's the point?


#44

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Mysterio done in a MvC super exaggeration style would be amazing. There's really no limit to the stuff they could get him to do.


#45

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Overflight said:
Capcom: I hope they don't ditch Megaman and while Zero would be cool, I think Bass would be even cooler. There are also rumors that Albert Wesker will be in the game. Hope that is true (and not as a pallet swap of Chris). Also, despite this having a very small chance of happening, I'd like to see either Dan or Garcian Smith from Killer7
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If they were going to put in the Smiths from Killer7, they'd probably put them all in... I could definitely see an epic boss battle with the Killer 7, with the Smiths constantly switching form in the middle of the battle to mix up their attack styles. I doubt they'd be playable though.


Overflight said:
Capcom: The rumored cast list that doesn't omit Megaman entirely usually lists him as Megaman Volnutt (AKA the one from Megaman Legends). Please no. If you're going with Alternate version of Megaman, go with either Megaman X or MegaMan.EXE
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They usually do Megaman Volnutt because everybody over at Capcom REALLY wants to do another Legends game, but the execs are worried it won't sell because of the lackluster sales of the original games. They don't seem to realize that Legends has been redeemed as a cult classic. And if they were going to bring in one of handheld series Megaman as a character, I suspect they'll be doing Starforce instead Megaman.EXE if only because Starforce actually has an interesting design. I doubt we'll see X anytime soon.


#46

Adam

Adammon

Give me Psylocke and Nightcrawler plz and thx.


#47



Overflight

Ooh, even better than MegaMan.EXE: Bass.EXE. That guy's badass.


#48

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Viewtiful Joe and Dormammu are officially announced.


#49

Troll

Troll

I still think Dormammu is too obscure and other Marvel villains would have been a better fit. Overall though these two look like solid additions.


#50

Troll

Troll

Nifty little trailer:


#51



Overflight

I was looking at the Dormammu video and thought "Hmm. He seems a bit overpowered. Maybe he's an unlockable character..."

...then it hit me. "Overpowered". You want to know who I really really, REALLY don't want to see within a hundred miles of this game?



DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE, CAPCOM.


#52

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

For those who haven't seen them yet:

Viewtiful Joe


Dormammu


#53

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

They should add Spider-Ham.


#54

Troll

Troll

I am beginning to wonder if they put Spiderman in, since we haven't actually seen him yet (aside from a float in the background)...


#55

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

So far I'm looking at a Trish, Deadpool team with an undecided 3rd...


#56

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Overflight said:
I was looking at the Dormammu video and thought "Hmm. He seems a bit overpowered. Maybe he's an unlockable character..."

...then it hit me. "Overpowered". You want to know who I really really, REALLY don't want to see within a hundred miles of this game?



DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE, CAPCOM.
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I will cry tears of blood if Dorm is anything like Seth.


#57

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

CynicismKills said:
I will cry tears of blood if Dorm is anything like Seth.
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Become a part of me.

Ha ha ha ha!


#58

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

A New Challenger Appears!

Newest Confirmed Character? Tron Bonne from Megaman Legends! I gotta admit, I wasn't expecting to see her again!


#59

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I get chills in all the right spots everytime Trish shows up. :wub:


#60

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Man, now they're making my team decision really difficult. I loved using Tronne/Felicia/Ken back in MvC2, now I'll have to try out Deadpool, Thor and the likely improved Iron Man on top of that. Felicia/Deadpool/Tronne is likely going to be the 'it' team, unless Iron Man or Thor really feels good compared to Deadpool or Tronne (pretty much counting on Felicia still being a beast).


#61



Overflight

Still no Spider-man. This is quite worrying.

Without him I cannot make my dream team of Deadpool, Dante and Spidey! (or as I like to call it "Team Wiseass")

My backup team will probably be Thor, Super Skrull and Doctor Doom ("Team Large Ham")

In rage inducing news, the game's producer confirms that Doctor Strange won't be in the game. The previous game had Shuma Gorath and this one has Dormammu and yet no Doctor Strange in either? (Then again, if you can have friggin SUPER SKRULL and no Fantastic Four...)


#62

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I think having Super Skrull is SO they don't have the make all 4 members of the Fantastic Four. He's all 4 in one.


#63

General Specific

General Specific

Well, no Stephen Strange would make a little sense story-wise. Isn't he the one who sealed Dormammu off in the other dimension? So his absence could be what allows Dormammu through to our realm.


#64

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Marvel Vs Capcom has a story?

Wait, what? :wtf:


#65

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Twitter / CAPCOM TGS NAVI:

Well, X-23. How about that?


#66

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

X-23 joins the roster. I figured she'd make an appearance, if only to help round out the females on the Marvel side. Looks like she is going to be a faster, longer ranged version of Wolverine in this game.


#67

General Specific

General Specific

I'm still holding out for Squirrel Girl


#68



Jiarn

Would have been more impressed with the inclusion of X-23 had she replaced Wolverine all together. I was hoping we were going without redundant styles this time around.


#69

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Jiarn said:
Would have been more impressed with the inclusion of X-23 had she replaced Wolverine all together. I was hoping we were going without redundant styles this time around.
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I think her style is sufficiently different. It looks to be very wide, very fast and mid-range to short oriented, where as Wolverine is likely going to be very short ranged and much more powerful. I DO agree she should have replaced him, but that would have pissed off to many fans, I'd wager.


#70

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Man, I'm going to be really pissed if they don't include Spidey. :mad:


#71

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Playstyle looks a lot like Wolverine's to me.

Longer dashes, but seem similar to Drill Claw/Berzerker Barrage otherwise
First Super looks unique (the disappearing one)
Dash super looks like Wolverine's Super BB
Uppercut super looks like Wolverine's Weapon X attack

She might be faster/longer range here and there but this kinda feels like the Wolverine/bone claw Wolverine thing in MvC2.


#72



Overflight

If they have X-23 and no Spidey or Mega Man, there will be blood.


#73

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Overflight said:
If they have X-23 and no Spidey or Mega Man, there will be blood.
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Yes, Marvel and Capcom would both agree to have this game be made without including characters from some of their largest franchises.

Also, more characters will be announced at TGS.


#74

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Overflight said:
If they have X-23 and no Spidey or Mega Man, there will be blood.
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I could see them leaving out Mega Man, but I can't imagine Spidey gets the ax as he's been as much of a staple of the Marvel fighters as any other character. I do wish Cyclops would make a return, though. D:


#75

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

I'm pretty confident Mega Man will be in there. He's a fan favorite and a Capcom staple. Not to mention I can't imagine them including Tron Bonne and not having any sort of Mega Man in there. Roll and Servbot probably got cut.


#76

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Tron Bonne Spotlight:


Gameplay Footage:


#77

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Spider-man
Albert Wesker


#78

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Ok, so let's look at the current roster.

Capcom:
- Ryu
- Dante
- Chris
- Morrigan
- Amaterasu
- Albert Wesker
- Chun-li
- Viewtiful Joe
- Trish
- Tron Bonne
- Felicia
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Marvel:
- Deadpool
- Super Skrull
- Dr Doom
- Thor
- X-23
- Captain America
- Iron Man
- Spider-Man
- Hulk
- Wolverine
- Dormammu
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Lots of good picks so far, including some nice new faces on each side. I'm betting they each have at least one more character to reveal during the TGS, so any guesses on who they'll be? I'm guessing Megaman and a female from Marvel... probably ether Emma Frost, Psylocke or Storm. Nico Minoru or Molly Hayes if we're REALLY lucky.


#79

ThatGrinningIdiot!

ThatGrinningIdiot!

Man, am I so glad that Wesker is his own character, and not a costume swap for Chris. I've never really gotten into Marvel Vs. Capcom before, but the character selection looks great, I think I'll be getting this when it comes out. :)


#80

Tress

Tress

Good thing Spiderman is in there. I was getting ready to riot if they left him out.


#81



Overflight

Oh hell yes. Nice to see Spidey here at last and Wesker as a separate character. It wouldn't make sense to have a virus enhanced superpowered badass and have him only resort to weapons for his attacks (like Chris).

This just keeps getting better. Guess X-23 is the exception.


#82

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Four more Fighters Revealed!

- Arthur (From Ghosts and Goblins)

- Rad Spencer (From Bionic Commando)

- Magneto (from X-Men)

- MODOK (From... I have not fucking idea. I know he's a Marvel though.)

Video footage!

Also, according to some images of the booth for MvC3, it looks like the next 4 are going to be Classic Megaman, Jill Valentine, M. Bison, and Zangief.


#83

Tress

Tress

*gasp*

Arthur! Yes!


#84

General Specific

General Specific

MODOK is the leader of A.I.M. (Advanced Idea Mechanics or Advanced Ideas in Mayhem or any other combination that sounds goofy-cool). His name is an acronym as well for "Mental Organism Designed Only for Killing," which also changes depending on writer's whims or whatever Marvel thinks is cool at the time. He's a mutated scientist that's now basically just a giant head, but with psionic abilities.


#85

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Magneto got brought back?



#86

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Arthur looks like a fun character, seeing him use all the old weapons and hearing that music made me happy.

Spencer looks like he's going to be a pain in the ass to fight. :|


#87



Overflight

Spencer looks fun to play but I'm kind of disappointed that they went with the 2009 version. To me it's like having Bomberman in your fighting game and going with the Act Zero version by default. It's not even a question of "They had the 3D model handy" since there IS a classic Spencer unlockable skin in said 2009 game. Hope they include it as an alternate costume. But even so, we wouldn't get the cheesy lines from the original and Reloaded. Wouldn't it be awesome if he faced Spider Man and went "Get out of here, you nerd!"

The taunt exchange with Iron Man was awesome, though.


#88



Overflight

And we now have game play footage of Magneto and M.O.D.O.K.

Marvel Vs Capcom 3: Fate Of Two Worlds Video Game, NYCC 10: Magneto Trailer HD | Video Clip | Game Trailers & Videos | GameTrailers.com
Marvel Vs Capcom 3: Fate Of Two Worlds Video Game, NYCC 10: M.O.D.O.K Trailer HD | Video Clip | Game Trailers & Videos | GameTrailers.com

...as much as I hate sounding like a nitpicking fanboy, they are starting to drop the ball. Magneto sounds a tad weird and M.O.D.O.K. looks either hard to control, broken as hell (invincible barriers and floating mines) or both.

Still a couple of characters left. I remember seeing a leaked Marvel.com page showing Magneto, Apocalypse and Onslaught so there are at least a few more characters to go. Better have friggin Megaman.


#89

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Images from the sides of the MvC3 booth seem to indicate that he'll be joining up soon. I'm kinda pissed it's STILL classic Megaman. I hope we get some alternate costume versions, so we can have X or Megaman Volnutt.


#90

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet



#91



Overflight

AshburnerX said:
Images from the sides of the MvC3 booth seem to indicate that he'll be joining up soon. I'm kinda pissed it's STILL classic Megaman. I hope we get some alternate costume versions, so we can have X or Megaman Volnutt.
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Don't forget bad Box Art Megaman!



In regards to that latest video...first there was that one with Thor wearing some weird pink armor now we have Tanned Disco Wesker? Who the hell designed these alternate outfits?


#92



Overflight

OK, I hate to fuel the speculation fire, but while going through the comments on Kotaku, I stumbled upon this "leaked production photo" of the full roster that looks a little too elaborate to be fake:



...Howard the Duck? Well, that will be...interesting to say the least. Thanos is kind of an odd choice for a regular playable character as well. The rest feels pretty standard really, despite there being some good choices there (She-Hulk, Venom and Frank West, IMHO).

This makes a total of 42 characters, 21 on each side. Not bad at all.


#93

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

This isn't confirmation or anything, but look at this image from a MvC3 dev's workstation...




That is VERY clearly Mike Haggar on the computer monitor. Also, I'd LOVE to see Red Arremer as a character... but why are they calling him Red Arremer instead of Firebrand, who IS one AND the hero of his own series (Demon's Crest)? The only reason I can think of is because they don't want to raise hopes of a new Demon's Crest game.

*sigh* My dreams of an Arthur Vs Maximo Vs Firebrand game will never come true...


#94

Tress

Tress

Just announced: She-Hulk and Zero!





#95



Overflight

I didn't know She-Hulk had the power to summon speeding cars out of thin air.

It looks silly enough on the Ghosts and Goblin's lava raft. Now imagine the car showing up inside the Tyrant Lab, the SHIELD Helicarrier and friggin ASGARD :-P


#96

figmentPez

figmentPez

I didn't know She-Hulk sounded so much like:


#97

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Yay, not only does he get his rad MMX2 music but he gets a V-Ism super special. Noice.


#98

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Zero in game = happy Cheesy! :rockon:


#99

Tress

Tress

Cheesy1 said:
Zero in game = happy Cheesy! :rockon:
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I would have preferred X, but Zero works just fine for me. :D


#100

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Jill Valentine and Shuma Gorath confirmed as DLC.


#101



Jiarn

I wonder.....

So if you don't have all the same DLCs as someonelse, you can't play with them?


#102

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Allen said:
Jill Valentine and Shuma Gorath confirmed as DLC.
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Fuck that bullshit, the game is months and months off and they're announcing characters we get to download later for extra. Eat a God damn dick Capcom.


#103

Tress

Tress

This may be the first time in my life I spend money on a special edition.

Frankie Williamson;452716][QUOTE=Allen said:
Jill Valentine and Shuma Gorath confirmed as DLC.
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Fuck that bullshit, the game is months and months off and they're announcing characters we get to download later for extra. Eat a God damn dick Capcom.[/QUOTE]

Or you could, oh I don't know... just not buy it?


#104



Jiarn

I'd have bought it, if it came with a tournament edition stick.


#105

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet



I think it's safe to say we won't be seeing X in the game


#106



Overflight

Frankie Williamson;452716][QUOTE=Allen said:
Jill Valentine and Shuma Gorath confirmed as DLC.
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Fuck that bullshit, the game is months and months off and they're announcing characters we get to download later for extra. Eat a God damn dick Capcom.[/QUOTE]

Even worse, look at the leaked roster I posted earlier. Jill isn't listed but Shuma-Gorath is.

...who wants to bet at least one of these characters is already on the disk and you're paying for a 100 KB "key"?

I'll still buy it though.


#107

Tress

Tress

Two new challengers appear!





#108



Jiarn

Can't see the video from work, details please!


#109

Tress

Tress

Jiarn said:
Can't see the video from work, details please!
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Sorry!

Storm and C. Viper. Aside from cosmetic changes Storm appears to be largely the same as she was in MvC2. C. Viper appears to be unchanged from SSF4.


#110



Jiarn

Ugh, Storm unchanged? Hurrah for more flying games and hail storms.....

C.Viper is a nice surprise though.


#111

Tress

Tress

Jiarn said:
Ugh, Storm unchanged? Hurrah for more flying games and hail storms.....
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That pretty much sums up her whole gameplay in the trailer, yeah.


#112



Jiarn

Could have VERY much done without her or Sentinel.


#113



Overflight

"Come forth, wind! By the power of Gaia and the power of the wind!"

...and the power of redundancy, apparently.


#114

Tress

Tress



#115

Tress

Tress

A new awesome trailer! It doesn't have any new major announcements, but it sums up all the info we've gotten so far while showing gameplay, cutscenes, new costumes/color schemes, and a new remix for a key part of the soundtrack.



#116



Jiarn

Arrrrrgggghhhh, can't watch from work!


#117

Adam

Adammon

Rumors are Jean Grey/Phoenix, Taskmaster and Galactus as the final boss are making appearances from the Marvel side. Oooh, Phoenix.


#118



Jiarn

Oh man, Phoenix would be fantastic. Hell I'd even accept Marvel Girl.


#119

Adam

Adammon

Jiarn said:
Oh man, Phoenix would be fantastic. Hell I'd even accept Marvel Girl.
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Judging from what they've done with Spiderman, you'll probably see Marvel Girl, X-men Jean Grey and Phoenix costume sets for her, which would be awesome.


#120



Jiarn

Oh I'm in complete agreement there. Someone with a psychic set of power as their main focus of attack would be nice.


#121

Adam

Adammon

Seeing as there's no fucking Psylocke *grumble*


#122



Jiarn

Even she had more of a projectile style, but I get what you're saying. I'm glad Psylocke is gone though, she was pretty useless outside of an assist role.


#123

Adam

Adammon

Yo Jiarn, I'ma let you finish, I'm really happy for you but Psylocke was the best Marvel vs Capcom fighting chick of all time. ALL TIME!


#124



Jiarn

Yo Adammon, Psylocke's a whore.


#125

Adam

Adammon

Your mom's a whore!


#126



Jiarn

Not possible, she wasn't an annoying bitch used to set up ridiculous infinites and served no other useful purpose.


#127

Adam

Adammon

That you know of!


#128



Jiarn

I'm pretty up-to-date on my mother's day to day life. I can say it with the utmost confidence.


#129

Adam

Adammon

Ditto.


#130



Jiarn

Yo Adammon, I'ma let you finish, I'm really happy for you, but your mom was the biggest whore of all time. OF ALL TIME.


#131

Adam

Adammon

You've met my mom!


#132



Jiarn

And Adammon..... I.... am your father!


#133

Adam

Adammon



hahaha


#134

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Two new characters revealed.

Haggar:


Phoenix:


#135

Adam

Adammon

That satisfies my demand for Psylocke, hurray!


#136

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

Finally Haggar gets to be in something that isn't Final Fight. Sheesh.


#137



Jiarn

Damn work blocking videos!

Hurrah Phoenix!


#138

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Allen who is Quiet said:
Finally Haggar gets to be in something that isn't Final Fight. Sheesh.
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I still think it's funny that Mike Haggar started out as a parody of Jesse Ventura, but later on it seems more like Jesse turned into a RL incarnation of Mike Haggar when he ran for office and won. Mike was only a mayor... Jesse was a Governor!


#139

Tress

Tress

I don't see a whole lot of difference between Mike Haggar and how Zangief plays in Street Fighter.* Still, it's a good addition.



* I haven't played Street Fighter 4.


#140

figmentPez

figmentPez

Tress said:
I don't see a whole lot of difference between Mike Haggar and how Zangief plays in Street Fighter.
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In Soviet Russia, the food you find in a trashcan eats you!


#141

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

Tress said:
I don't see a whole lot of difference between Mike Haggar and how Zangief plays in Street Fighter.* Still, it's a good addition.



* I haven't played Street Fighter 4.
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That's why Haggar hasn't appeared in any Street Fighter properties or crossover games. It's also why Zangief won't be appearing in mvc3.


#142

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Tress said:
I don't see a whole lot of difference between Mike Haggar and how Zangief plays in Street Fighter.* Still, it's a good addition.



* I haven't played Street Fighter 4.
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This is intentional. Zangief and Haggar have a long standing, but friendly, rivalry as they have met in the ring many times over the years (in the back story at least), dating back to at least Haggar's days as a professional wrestler. The only reason you haven't seen Haggar fight Zangief in a SF game is because Haggar is too busy being the Mayor of Mad City (as well as kicking the ass of every gangbanger in the city) to drop everything and participate. I guess Guy can find the time to do it because he's not a full time politician.

One of the reasons they seem to have similar styles is because they are both grapple centric wrestlers and because they both have incorporated moves from their rival, out of admiration and homage to each other. Zangief uses Haggar's Spinning Lariat and Hagger uses Zangief's Spinning Piledriver, though neither of them can perform said moves as well as their original creators. In this regard, they are similar to Ryu and Ken: Both have near identical move sets, but each specializes differently, so they fight differently.


#143

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

As far as gameplay goes, you can't really have the subtle distinctions between the two that you can between Ryu and Ken and still have them both function reasonably well. So, rather than wasting processor space on two characters who would be even more clone-ish than all the shotokan characters, Capcom never bothered putting Haggar and Zangief in the same game.


#144

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

That's basically the reason you never see them together. But you never know... one day we might get a Saturday night Slammasters live remake and Zangief might show up...

BTW, doesn't Zangief have a Mike Haggar costume in SF4?


#145

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

Yep.


#146

Tress

Tress

Okay... so as long as we get some Dead Rising love from Capcom, my wishlist will be complete. Every other character will just be icing on the cake.


#147

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Here comes two new challengers:

Akuma:


Taskmaster:


#148

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Taskmaster?

Awesome.


#149

Adam

Adammon

Tastemaster!? They got Kurtz into my favourite fighting game ever!?


#150

Covar

Covar

I'm interested to see how Taskmaster will be. He doesn't seem to just be a copy of the opponent, which is probably good for some of blaster types.


#151

Tress

Tress

No Frank West. Boo!

Capcom says that he was cut late in the development due to "some extra work involved."


#152

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Tress said:
No Frank West. Boo!

Capcom says that he was cut late in the development due to "some extra work involved."
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I doubt they'll just drop him. It's likely they will just make him and Chuck DLC characters, like they are with Jill. That's one of the great things about DLC: It lets the devs go back to cut ideas and flesh them out into full blown content.


#153

Tress

Tress

AshburnerX said:
I doubt they'll just drop him. It's likely they will just make him and Chuck DLC characters, like they are with Jill. That's one of the great things about DLC: It lets the devs go back to cut ideas and flesh them out into full blown content.
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I hope so. I couldn't explain to you why, but I just feel like they need a representative from Dead Rising to make the game complete.


#154

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

I'm still perturbed that there still is no actual Megaman in the game. He was my favorite character in the previous two games, so not seeing him in the lineup is frustrating.


#155

Tress

Tress

I would have enjoyed having Megaman in there, but Zero is adequate for me.


#156

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Yeah, but having both of them on the same team beating down others would have been epic.


#157

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet



#158

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

*Puts dollar in the jar.* :(


#159



Overflight

Hsien-Ko and Sentinel announced:





...despite it being a tad redundant, I'll say it again: WHERE THE HELL IS MEGAMAN?


#160

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

Fuck Megaman.

Fuck yeah, TENRAIHA!
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Oh man, she has her Dark Force and her stunning projectile?



#161

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

I would like to see Sigma as a final boss.


#162



Jiarn

Hsien-Ko? This games gets more awesome by the minute.

Sick to my stomach that we have Storm AND Sentinel back. All that's left is to put Cable back in the line up and we can ruin the game all over again. Hopefully they tweak the game system enough to allow for more balance and have more Top Tier than Middle/Low Tier this time around.


#163

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

Just because somebody was good in the previous game doesn't mean they're going to be good in this one. MvC2 was a mess of code, and it's surprising it turned out as good as it did. This is going to be much more meticulously balanced and playtested.


#164



Jiarn

Which is what I'm hoping for, and you're right, they won't necessarily play the same. None the less, core elements are already very obviously in place. I'd have been more than content with neither of them in the game.


#165

Covar

Covar

I find it amusing the Sentinel team had Storm and Magneto. that had to be deliberate.


#166



Jiarn

Obviously, it's what people "know" so they try it in a new game. Happened with every Tekken for the longest time. You had people refusing to play anything but Kazama or Mishima style.


#167



Chibibar

My wife wants Psylocke!


#168

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

Jiarn said:
Obviously, it's what people "know" so they try it in a new game. Happened with every Tekken for the longest time. You had people refusing to play anything but Kazama or Mishima style.
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That more has to do with companies being more liberal with how their protagonists are balanced. It's why Ryu and Akuma tend to be strong characters in Street Fighter games. In MvC series, there is no solid protagonist for them to give that bump.

Cable was good completely by accident. They didn't plan on giving him an infinitely repeatable super.
Storm and Magneto were completely where they were because of Fly. I don't think they planned on Fly being that abusable.
Sentinel had a combination of fly, as well as the ability to perform a fullscreen loop with very little chance of escape.

Capcom knows exactly what to look for, and I'm pretty sure they won't let this game be as much of a complete fuckup.


#169

Adam

Adammon

Chibibar said:
My wife wants Psylocke!
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I'm not your wife!


#170



maron

Adammon said:
I'm not your wife!
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No I am and I still want Psylocke


#171

fennewalde

fennewalde

Allen who is Quiet said:
Capcom knows exactly what to look for, and I'm pretty sure they won't let this game be as much of a complete fuckup.
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I don't know if they (capcom) openly embrace balance in their fighters. Which is fine. But with a roster as large as MvC2/3, with as many supers/assists and general shenanigans, there will always be something overlooked or some major glitch. It is impossible to game-test this. This is why namco releases tekken into the arcade, gets feedback from korea/japan, and edit/fix mistakes, repackage, add a few new characters and put some letters on the title like D or B or R. Many scoff at this tactic but you tend to love namco if you are actually in an arcade enjoying bob's toned down ws2 or julia's lack of B! out of d/f 1 +3_4 being corrected. That being said, capcom will throw this game out to the masses, there will be horrible broken elements like gambit being able to snap back an opponent and jump off the screen for ever and ever, amen, or atomic busting somebody into the floor to be stuck permanently, and some korean fight team will figure out how to break a character past God tier.

In addition, mags and storm were good because of their 8 direction air dash mixup into infinite followups, which is actually really hard to do on a stick and impossible on a game pad. I know many complain about it, but i was never able to get the hang of it so i give props to those that can. Sentinel on the other hand, had the highest starting defense in the game, every move did CHIP damage (stupid) and he had the fastest air dash/air cancel in the game (with two plausible assists). AVHB was not the only thing that made cable dumb. But if you look at the entire god tier from MvC 2, it was all marvel. Two of the three best assists were also marvel. My guess is, Capcom will try to up their side in MvC 3 because of their roster non-factor in tournament play from the last game.

in the end though, this is a really FUN fanboy/girl game that should be enjoyed casually. I can't wait to play this in the arcades and I really hope hsien-ko wasn't anakaris' replacement (though, it probably was). Anak was the the hizzzzieeeeee and hella fun to play!


#172

Tress

Tress

I want to play this game with friends. Sometimes I may play online with random folks. Anything else is unimportant to me, so I'm not too concerned about the balance. It'll be just fine for casual players like me. The hardcore folks are S.O.L. as far as I'm concerned.


#173



Jiarn

Well I'm glad you don't care about anyone but yourself. -sigh-

Casual players isn't what made the game the breakout that it was, and alive for as long as it was or why this 3rd part was even made.


#174

Adam

Adammon

Jiarn said:
Well I'm glad you don't care about anyone but yourself. -sigh-

Casual players isn't what made the game the breakout that it was, and alive for as long as it was or why this 3rd part was even made.
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Totally. I mean, the .001% of people that purchased the game completely kept it alive.


#175

Tress

Tress

Jiarn said:
Well I'm glad you don't care about anyone but yourself. -sigh-

Casual players isn't what made the game the breakout that it was, and alive for as long as it was or why this 3rd part was even made.
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This is how capitalism works. I worry about me, you worry about you, and in the end the company will try to find ways to satisfy us both.

Don't get me wrong. I don't mind if Capcom worries about the hardcore crowd. I think that would probably a wise move on their part. What I'm saying is that there are plenty of people out there who, like me, are just casual players who don't worry about balance as much. And I think you're wrong when you underestimate casual players. We buy a lot of stuff too.


#176



Jiarn

If you honestly think the physical game sales alone is what kept the game going for 10years, I suggest you look at the actual purchases over that course of time and tell me that at the end of the games run, it was physical game sales keeping it the world-wide phenomenom it became. Cmon now.


#177

Tress

Tress

See, this is why we can't have nice conversations. You're so busy belittling people who disagree that you end up obsessing on little points and starting arguments. What the fuck does it matter who spends more money? Am I somehow unimportant to Capcom if I don't play in tournaments? Am I not allowed to joke about not caring about balance issues?


#178



Jiarn

The reason we can't have nice conversations is that you put words in my mouth. I simply stated, that the casual crowd and physical game sales did not escalate the game to the world wide played game it is.

Let me put it this way, do you think Starcraft got as big as it did today because of physical game sales or because of the community it created? Perhaps in the beginning it was a huge seller, but why did it get a sequel? Because of how rabid and obssessed the community became, how the hardcore created a world around it. They realized it was a cash cow just waiting to burst.


#179



Chibibar

I think it is both parties that really push any games.

The company wants the physical sales number cause physical sales = money
While the community helps promote it (kinda like free ads) to generate more sales/interest.


#180



Jiarn

Sure I agree there completely except when you're talking about a game that's had almost no sale for 5 of the 10years of its release.


#181

Tress

Tress

I guess I feel like hardcore players expect a disproportionate amount of attention for games like MvC3. There's a large casual crowd that helps drive sales out there, but the hardcore players I've met and talked to see them as irrelevant (or worse). I also worry that MvC3 is going to be constantly tweaked because hardcore players complain, when casual players find the game to be just fine.


#182

Adam

Adammon

Jiarn said:
Let me put it this way, do you think Starcraft got as big as it did today because of physical game sales or because of the community it created? Perhaps in the beginning it was a huge seller, but why did it get a sequel? Because of how rabid and obssessed the community became, how the hardcore created a world around it. They realized it was a cash cow just waiting to burst.
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It got a sequel because it was a huge seller. If it was a non-seller, it wouldn't matter how hardcore the fans were. Netrek has a rabid, hardcore following but I haven't seen any commercial sequels to that. Starcraft sold over 9.5 million copies around the world. Your hardcore component of that is say, 1%? 0.1%? 950,000 gamers buying the disc means Blizzard doesn't even break even on it.

World of Warcraft isn't as big as it is because of the 'hardcore' component. If anything, they're the pain in the ass that actually costs more than they bring in.

Edit: I own MvC2 for PS2 which is actually pretty damn rare.


#183



Chibibar

Adammon said:
It got a sequel because it was a huge seller. If it was a non-seller, it wouldn't matter how hardcore the fans were. Netrek has a rabid, hardcore following but I haven't seen any commercial sequels to that. Starcraft sold over 9.5 million copies around the world. Your hardcore component of that is say, 1%? 0.1%? 950,000 gamers buying the disc means Blizzard doesn't even break even on it.

World of Warcraft isn't as big as it is because of the 'hardcore' component. If anything, they're the pain in the ass that actually costs more than they bring in.
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this is what I believe. It has sold a lot in the past and thus, the company wants to crank out another one.

WoW is popular because of the upteen millions of subscribers. They reduce the "hardness" to cater to casual gamers (I know that many of my ex-guild complain of getting too easy since it allow casual to do raids)


#184

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

fennewalde said:
In addition, mags and storm were good because of their 8 direction air dash mixup into infinite followups, which is actually really hard to do on a stick and impossible on a game pad. I know many complain about it, but i was never able to get the hang of it so i give props to those that can. Sentinel on the other hand, had the highest starting defense in the game, every move did CHIP damage (stupid) and he had the fastest air dash/air cancel in the game (with two plausible assists). AVHB was not the only thing that made cable dumb. But if you look at the entire god tier from MvC 2, it was all marvel. Two of the three best assists were also marvel. My guess is, Capcom will try to up their side in MvC 3 because of their roster non-factor in tournament play from the last game.
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I could never triangle jump. I figured it had to do with Fly. My bad. Never played much mvc2. Only reason I care about 3 is because now Lei-lei is in it.

With the characters I listed, I figured I'd just list some of their most visible things that would make your average person hear about it and go "Well, that's retarded."

Only reason I think mvc3 will have some semblance of balance is because the SF4 games turned out pretty all right, balance-wise. Sure there are a couple of stinkers and there were a few things that turned out to be really good that couldn't have been predicted, but nobody had a free ride, AFAIK.

Adammon said:
Totally. I mean, the .001% of people that purchased the game completely kept it alive.
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After the rest of the people who bought the game moved on, yeah. There's a reason companies will try to have elements that cater to a hardcore crowd. Most of the money will come from the casual crowd, but it tends to be the hardcore players that attract the casual crowd after the initial release.


#185



Jiarn

Tress said:
I guess I feel like hardcore players expect a disproportionate amount of attention for games like MvC3. There's a large casual crowd that helps drive sales out there, but the hardcore players I've met and talked to see them as irrelevant (or worse). I also worry that MvC3 is going to be constantly tweaked because hardcore players complain, when casual players find the game to be just fine.
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Fair enough, I'll agree that a large portion of the more serious "fighting game" crowd tend to be pompous assholes. Seems we need both kind to keep our favorite games coming out.


#186

Adam

Adammon

Allen who is Quiet said:
After the rest of the people who bought the game moved on, yeah. There's a reason companies will try to have elements that cater to a hardcore crowd. Most of the money will come from the casual crowd, but it tends to be the hardcore players that attract the casual crowd after the initial release.
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That's debatable. I've found hardcore players to be an absolute turn off after the initial release. There's not much fun in playing a game against some douchebag living in his parents basement that has min-maxed every single move down to ultimate lethality. I play games for fun, not to be a prick. I have forums to do that.


#187

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

Adammon said:
That's debatable. I've found hardcore players to be an absolute turn off after the initial release. There's not much fun in playing a game against some douchebag living in his parents basement that has min-maxed every single move down to ultimate lethality. I play games for fun, not to be a prick. I have forums to do that.
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The attraction to a game doesn't come from playing them if you're a casual player. They're going to beat you, hands down. They're going to be the ones who will tell people this game is really fun. Watching them play people their skill level can be fun, since you're watching a game being played at a high level.


#188

Adam

Adammon

Allen who is Quiet said:
The attraction to a game doesn't come from playing them if you're a casual player. They're going to beat you, hands down. They're going to be the ones who will tell people this game is really fun. Watching them play people their skill level can be fun, since you're watching a game being played at a high level.
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Yeah no. I don't think I'm a minority in preferring to play a game rather than watching someone else play it at a high level. We already have that it - it's called a 'movie'.


#189

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

Fair enough. We'll never see eye-to-eye on this, so let's just both agree to dismiss each other's opinions.


#190

Adam

Adammon

Allen who is Quiet said:
Fair enough. We'll never see eye-to-eye on this, so let's just both agree to dismiss each other's opinions.
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Not good enough, I hate your opinion and think that you are a Palin fan who should be sterilized!


#191

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

Adammon said:
Not good enough, I hate your opinion and think that you are a Palin fan who should be sterilized!
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#192

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Final Boss is revealed. It's Galactus!



#193



Jiarn

Hm, I thought it was going to be Dormammu?


#194



Overflight

No, even the devs acknowledged the fact that despite initially building him up as the final boss, he'd be a regular character. I think Galactus is a nice fit for final boss.I mean, where do you go after friggin ONSLAUGHT?

Some more minor things I heard about the game:

- The roster is finalized. What we have seen is what we get. That means no Megaman :-( Though there is still a chance that he may show up as DLC
- Apparently Sentinel really IS overpowered: like Akuma and Taskmaster, he must be unlocked. Hsien-Ko too.


#195

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

Being unlockable doesn't say anything about if something is strong.


#196



Jiarn

Sentinel: Fantastic....


#197

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

An official trailer for Galactus:


#198



Overflight

...why would you release a TRAILER for the FINAL BOSS? I know there aren't many spoilers to be had in a fighting game but come on.


#199

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

To keep people talking about the game before the game is officially released


#200



Overflight

And now for something somewhat different:



...AWESOME


#201

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

So I was watching all of the hyper combos and I noticed something amusing. Apparently Deadpool rips the Combo Meter off the screen and beats you silly with it during his. Love it.


#202



Overflight

Interesting video showing what seems to be all opponent specific battle intro quotes:

http://screwattack.com/videos/MvC3-Smack-Talkin-Teams

Two things:

1) "Magneto! Welcome...TO DIE!" XD XD XD
2) Iron Man and Cap just can't get forgive each other for Civil War, huh?
2) ...Iron Man hitting on Tron Bonne? Someone get Chris Hansen on the phone!


#203

General Specific

General Specific

Tony could just be looking to hire her, he wasn't specific...


#204

Adam

Adammon

Hooray! Installed and playing. So pretty. Will give more detailed thoughts later.

Edit: Okay, immediate thoughts.

Snapbacks have been made super, super easy. Which should have some interesting strategic importance.

Load time almost non-existent on PS3. AWESOME. MvC2 was unbearable in places.

Combos are almost a little too easy to get into. There may be a lot of 'watching the opponent kick my ass'.

Graphics are amazing. The music is horrible. Horrible. Like they just remastered SNES midi tunes - and not good ones either. I'd suggest turning off the music and playing your own themes. That said, all the characters are voiced well, and the sound FX is appropriate.

Second Edit: You can change the background music from Classic Mode to Dynamic Mode. Believe me, do it. It makes it somewhat more bearable.

Third edit: Phoenix's inclusion makes up for the lack of Psylocke. Playstyles are verrrry similar.


#205



Jiarn

Only way I could play this at all would be to get a tournament stick, but that'd be another $300 tossed on top of the cost of the game... -sigh-


#206

Covar

Covar

I'm going to pick this up today, and probably either play it all night with friends, or watch 30 Rock.

I bought the MadCatz stick today, it will be here in a few weeks


#207

Adam

Adammon

I almost ordered off of Amazon thinking it wouldn't be available at any stores here. How wrong I was! Walmart had many copies the first day. *contented sigh*


#208

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Just beat it on Normal. I'm digging it so far!


#209

Enresshou

Enresshou

Played some MvC2 before I got into my 'fighting game' kick, so a lot of this is completely new to me...but oh. My. GOD this game is awesome.

Best part is that Hulk seems somewhat playable in this game compared to MvC2...and GOTTA love all the little easter eggs they put in.


#210

Tress

Tress

Enresshou said:
Best part is that Hulk seems somewhat playable in this game compared to MvC2...and GOTTA love all the little easter eggs they put in.
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I don't have any links, but I remember an interview where they were talking about making every character viable. True balance is impossible for the format, but they wanted to make sure characters like Hulk could at least hold their own. Assuming they succeeded, that may be the greatest improvement for this sequel over the 2nd one.


#211



Jiarn

A good 90% of the MvC2 cast was viable, even in high tier play (ie: Dhalsim and Spiral were amazing anti-Sentinel/Storm characters when used correctly), but I will agree it was much harder.

I'm going crazy knowing this game is out, I couldn't even find a tournament stick on Craigslist for under $250, damnit.


#212

Tress

Tress

Capcom rolls out new vids for their DLC characters:



And before you even say it Jiarn... I know. You can't see it at work. You'll have to wait until you get home.


#213

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I love how they animated Shuma Gorath. It's very fun to watch him just move around.


#214

Tress

Tress

I'm a little disappointed in Jill's look, but that's because I didn't like the direction RE5 took her. I hope that she has a classic RE-style alternate costume.


#215

Frank

Frankie Williamson

She looks vanilla as all hell too, really boring.


#216



fenris00

When I first saw Shuma-Gorath fight and his voice, Arakune from Blazblue popped into my head.


#217

General Specific

General Specific

I just saw these characters available on xbox arcade... for 400 points EACH. That translates to $5 per character. I liked the game and was disappointed with how few characters it shipped with, but that is ridiculous.


#218

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

So... tentacle monster vs. Chun Li? Pretty sure I've seen that before.

I don't even care who wins in that fight...


#219

Tress

Tress

Hey, remember how psyched people were about this game? And how Capcom promised there would be new fighters to download in DLC packs, and then they only did one? And then this game all but disappeared? Well, in a move so completely unlike Capcom, they have announced Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3. I know, I know, who would have even predicted Capcom would re-release a game with some extra content? Crazy.

So, this copy will include all previous characters (including the DLC characters of Jill and Shuma), plus 12 new fighters. The first four announced in the trailer: Ghost Rider and Hawkeye for Marvel, Firebrand (from Ghosts and Goblins) and Strider for Capcom. It's supposed to be at a reduced price too (I heard $40, but it wasn't confirmed). That's great if you didn't buy the game yet; that sucks if you bought the first and want this one too.



#220

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Capcom cancelled Mega Man Legends 3. Goodwill for their horseshit is gone.


#221

Tress

Tress

Frankie Williamson said:
Capcom cancelled Mega Man Legends 3. Goodwill for their horseshit is gone.
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I never realized how popular that franchise was until they canceled the third one. Wow.


#222

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Wasn't the best series ever, but I really loved them. They had a real sense of adventure to them that you don't get in most games.


#223



Jiarn

Well since I didn't buy the previous version, I'll probably pick this up.

Seriously though, they had me at "Firebrand".


#224



Overflight

...and we've already got a cast leak

http://www.giantbomb.com/news/it-to...e-marvel-vs-capcom-3-roster-to-leak-out/3505/

...OK, due to money issues I hadn't had the chance to actually buy the original game. But now I look at this and think two things:

1) Do I REALLY buy it this time around or am I risking spending money only for 6 months later "Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 Arcade Edition" to come out?

2) NO MEGAMAN AGAIN? FUCK YOU, CAPCOM.

It must be fun to play as Phoenix Wright, though.


#225

Frank

Frankie Williamson

At this point, with Inafune leaving Capcom a little while back, I'm pretty sure Capcom is going to do it's best to pretend Mega Man never existed. Fuck them.


#226

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Frankie Williamson said:
At this point, with Inafune leaving Capcom a little while back, I'm pretty sure Capcom is going to do it's best to pretend Mega Man never existed. Fuck them.
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I'm pretty sure they cancelled Mega Man Legends 3 because Inafune left and no one knew what to do with the project, not because they hate the series (though the executives never had faith in Legends). In essence, they had their most important staff member leave the company... the guy responsible for their oldest and most successful franchise (Mega Man and it's spin offs) and their newest one (Dead Rising). That'd be like if Miyamoto left Nintendo; they'd have no idea what to do anymore, because they've been leaning on the old guard and not cultivating it's replacement. Besides, Inafune had been leveraging a bit too hard on the company... his vanity project (that crappy Dead Rising movie) is proof of that.

That being said, Capcom has been making some questionable decisions ever since they closed Clover, especially concerning the Phoniex Wright series.


#227

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Now they can only do what Capcom does best. REVAMP AFTER REVAMP OF FIGHTING GAMES!

I still fondly remember the Capcom of the NES days. Putting out amazing game after amazing game. Hey, it's Mega Man. Hey, it's Nemo. Hey, it's Ducktales. Ghosts n Goblins, Rescue Rangers, Gargoyle's Quest, fucking Snow Bros (I loved this game so much).

GOD DAMN YOU CAPCOM!


#228

Adam

Adammon

As an owner of MvsC3, I find this fucking stupid and will no longer buy Capcom's first shot at any release now, knowing that they're going to screw me in the end. I fell for SFIV (Which was followed by SSFIV) and now I've fallen for MvsC3 vs UMvsC3..NO MORE I SAY, NO MORE.


#229

Frank

Frankie Williamson

The biggest crime here is they had promised DLC character packs. We got Jill and Shuma. Boo fuck you Capcom again.


#230

Tress

Tress

Frankie Williamson said:
The biggest crime here is they had promised DLC character packs. We got Jill and Shuma. Boo fuck you Capcom again.
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I agree with this here. The new editions of games I've come to expect. However, when you tell people you are going to have DLC and then hardly release anything... well, that's just extra shitty.


#231

General Specific

General Specific

Adammon said:
I fell for SFIV (Which was followed by SSFIV)
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I bought SSFIV and now SSFIV Arcade Edition with 2 more fighters is out. You can download an update with all the changes for like $15 or something, but seriously.

I will be taking my copy of SSFIV and MvC3 to the store and trading them in for whatever else I want. Maybe a preorder of Soul Calibur V


#232

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Ugh, not to pile on more Capcom hate, but it fucking sucks that they've also said they have 0 intention of ever putting Mega Man Legends 1 or 2 on PSN either. WHY? What possible reason could there be not to?


#233

Covar

Covar

I remember hearing something about music rights. Basically they would have to change some of the music in the game (or take it out) in order to re-release them.


#234

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

Capcom releases a game, and, a year later, releases the same game for less money? FUCK YOU CAPCOM!

Activision, Treyarch, and EA release a game, and, a year later, release the same game with a different title for the same amount of money? I CAN'T GIVE THEM MONEY FAST ENOUGH!


#235

Tress

Tress

Allen who is Quiet said:
Capcom releases a game, and, a year later, releases the same game for less money? FUCK YOU CAPCOM!

Activision, Treyarch, and EA release a game, and, a year later, release the same game with a different title for the same amount of money? I CAN'T GIVE THEM MONEY FAST ENOUGH!
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To be fair, I don't buy shit like that from EA or Activision either.
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Frankie Williamson said:
Capcom cancelled Mega Man Legends 3. Goodwill for their horseshit is gone.
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Apparently it was your fault that they canceled it.


#236

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Allen who is Quiet said:
Capcom releases a game, and, a year later, releases the same game for less money? FUCK YOU CAPCOM!

Activision, Treyarch, and EA release a game, and, a year later, release the same game with a different title for the same amount of money? I CAN'T GIVE THEM MONEY FAST ENOUGH!
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Yeah, do those of us complaining about Capcom in this thread seem like the CoD monkeys you are comparing us to.


#237

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

Sure.
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Jill and Shuma cost $5.00 each.

UMvC3 has 10 new characters. By not releasing them as DLC, Capcom loses $10.00. More really, since they'd have to pay for distribution, shipping, and packaging. Greedy bastards.


#238

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Difference is, I don't want all of the characters.


#239

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

But because the new content is in disc form rather than downloadable, you're obligated to buy it?


#240

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I'm not going to. What I was mad about was the lack of dlc characters for the first one.
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One more fuck Capcom:

http://twitter.com/#!/CapcomEuro/status/93720826087620608

Capcomeuro said:
it's a shame the fans didn't want to get more involved :-( if we saw there was an audience for MML3 people might change minds
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They got over 7000 design submissions from fans. What did they want? The fanbase to make and code the entire thing?


#241

Allen who is Quiet

Allen who is Quiet

500,000 signatures on an online petition, probably


#242

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Covar said:
I remember hearing something about music rights. Basically they would have to change some of the music in the game (or take it out) in order to re-release them.
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I don't really believe a word of that. They said that Mega Man Powered Up can't be released on the PSP PSN because of technical issues even though it's on the Japanese PSN.
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Allen who is Quiet said:
500,000 signatures on an online petition, probably
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They must have got them.

http://iplaywinner.com/news/2011/7/21/new-darkstalkers-game-announced.html


#243

Frank

Frankie Williamson

HA HA! FOOLED US AGAIN CAPCOM! It's not actually announced. Ono just wants to make it. Holy shit that company.


#244

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Capcom Guy at SDCC Panel said:
"I’m sorry, there is no Mega Man in Ultimate," Niitsuma apologized. "We had a lot of requests from fans for Mega Man or at least one of them to be in the game. Out of all of the requests we got for Capcom characters, he just didn’t enter the top part of the ranking. Unfortunately, he didn’t make the cut."
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That's an outright bold faced lie.

Rocket Raccoon had more requests than Mega Man. Eat. Fucking. Shit.


#245

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

That last sentence made me laugh damn hard Frank, seriously, hard.
:rofl:


#246

Bowielee

Bowielee

Frankie Williamson said:
That's an outright bold faced lie.

Rocket Raccoon had more requests than Mega Man. Eat. Fucking. Shit.
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Um, Rocket Raccoon is a Marvel character, so he couldn't have edged out any of the capcom characters.

The sentiment remains the same, though. I hardly believe that there was a huge public outcry for Rocket Raccoon over any other Marvel character I can think of.

However, speaking of DLC characters, I just found out that Freddy Kreuger is coming out as a DLC character for Mortal Kombat.


#247

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

You guys make me glad I don't play any of this shit.


#248

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Bowielee said:
Um, Rocket Raccoon is a Marvel character, so he couldn't have edged out any of the capcom characters.

The sentiment remains the same, though. I hardly believe that there was a huge public outcry for Rocket Raccoon over any other Marvel character I can think of.

However, speaking of DLC characters, I just found out that Freddy Kreuger is coming out as a DLC character for Mortal Kombat.
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My bad, replace Rocket Raccoon with Firebrand.


#249

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Um, can't agree with you there Frank. Firebrand > Megaman (In coolness factor for me anyway) Though in popularity I would agree with you.


#250

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Don't get me wrong. I think it's fucking rad that Firebrand is there. I love Gargoyle's Quest. I just think it's complete bullshit to use the excuse "The demand wasn't there, he just didn't rank." when talking about the exclusion of Mega Man. Frank West even. Again for whatever reason, Capcom Japan seems to think America fucking loves Frank West.


#251

General Specific

General Specific

Bowielee said:
Um, Rocket Raccoon is a Marvel character, so he couldn't have edged out any of the capcom characters.

The sentiment remains the same, though. I hardly believe that there was a huge public outcry for Rocket Raccoon over any other Marvel character I can think of.
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Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Daredevil, Any of the Fantastic Four, Namor, Cyclops, Green Goblin, Loki, Punisher, Apocalypse, Red Skull, Venom, Dr. Strange, Absorbing Man, Fixer, Ultron, Mister Sinister, Quasar, Nova, Mystique, Bullseye, Doctor Octopus, Mysterio, Electro, Sabertooth, Juggernaut, Moon Knight, Black Panther, Storm, Havok, Iceman...


#252

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Maaaaaan, I want Mr. Sinister. He's the fucking best.

Iron Fist and Storm are in there General.


#253

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Personally I'm really looking forward to -

Only problem is I fear that Capcom will make 2-3 versions that won't be compatible to play online with each other. :(


#254

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Man, I feel nothing for that game. I can't imagine the two games playing well together without completely crushing one style or the other.


#255

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

They crushed the Tekken style. Gameplay footage is pure SF4 for the most part. None the less, I can't wait to use Kazuya to pound the entire Capcom cast into the ground.


#256

General Specific

General Specific

Frankie Williamson said:
Maaaaaan, I want Mr. Sinister. He's the fucking best.

Iron Fist and Storm are in there General.
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yeah, forgot about Storm, hadn't see the full list of 10, so was just throwing out names, mostly.


#257

Adam

Adammon

Meanwhile, over in Mortal Kombat land, they get Freddy Krueger.


#258

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Frankie Williamson said:
Don't get me wrong. I think it's fucking rad that Firebrand is there. I love Gargoyle's Quest. I just think it's complete bullshit to use the excuse "The demand wasn't there, he just didn't rank." when talking about the exclusion of Mega Man. Frank West even. Again for whatever reason, Capcom Japan seems to think America fucking loves Frank West.
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Actually, Frank does have a pretty good following, if only because 90% of us portray him as an insane lunatic on the level of Deadpool. Phoenix Wright has the following too and he was originally supposed to be in Tatsunoko Vs Capcom, but they couldn't find a way to balance him. But yeah, Megaman trumps them both in terms of popularity... I'd say they are trying to get back at Inafune, but Frank's one of his.

What I really want to know is why we're getting Phoenix Wright in this, but we're not getting the second Ace Attorney Investigations and possibly not Phoenix Wright Vs Professor Layton. Capcom has been making some really terrible decisions ever since they got rid of Clover.


#259

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Well, Capcom washed their hands of Wright/Layton. They say it's up to Level 5 to do anything with.

And I still don't think Frank West is as huge here as Capcom Japan seems to think he is. Would you buy Dead Rising 2 remade with Frank West? Japan seems to think so. That whole thing seems like madness to me. Capcom is dead.

More Capcom Madness said:
POWERHOUSE GLOBAL COMPANIES CAPCOM® AND SANRIO® ANNOUNCE PARTNERSHIP TO CREATE HELLO KITTY X STREET FIGHTERTM CO-BRANDED MERCHANDISE

SAN DIEGO – July 22, 2011 – Capcom® Entertainment, Inc., a leading worldwide developer and publisher of video games, and Sanrio, Inc., creator of beloved icon Hello Kitty®, today announced a partnership to create a new line of co-branded Street Fighter™ themed merchandise that will launch in fall 2012. The collaboration will be a fusion of the unique styles of these world-famous brands, yielding a broad range of merchandise featuring Hello Kitty dressed in the distinct costumes from the Street Fighter series of video games.

“Capcom has long admired Sanrio and their ability to create memorable and cherished lifestyle brands so it is a distinct pleasure to partner with them for this new cross-over line of merchandise,” said Joshua Izzo, Director of Licensing, Capcom Entertainment, Inc. “The combination of Street Fighter and Hello Kitty will offer fans a whole new way to experience our characters.”

“We are always looking for new ways to surprise our fans and partnering with a strong brand-focused company such as Capcom is a natural fit for us,” said Jill Koch, Vice President of Brand Management and Marketing, Sanrio, Inc. “Hello Kitty and Street Fighter have a dedicated core following around the world and our collaboration brings the legacy of both brands together in a fun and unexpected way.”

Specific details on the co-branded merchandise and retailer availability will be released at a later date.

Street Fighter® was first released in the arcades in 1987. This was followed up in 1991 with the smash hit Street Fighter® II, and as of April 12, 2011, the series as a whole has shipped more than 31 million units on home consoles worldwide. The innovative battle system found in the Street Fighter games helped to establish the fighting game genre for video games.
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#260

Tress

Tress

Capcom is now claiming that the earthquake and tsunami is what prevented them from releasing DLC. Apparently it threw off their whole schedule, so they just decided to put it all into a disc and release it as UMvC3.


#261

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Frankie Williamson said:
Would you buy Dead Rising 2 remade with Frank West? Japan seems to think so. That whole thing seems like madness to me.
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Considering I didn't buy Dead Rising 2 because I didn't have my 360 yet, I probably would. But only if the keep Chuck as the second player. They already proved it was possible to do two entirely different characters as Co-Op in Case West.


#262



Overflight

Adammon said:
Meanwhile, over in Mortal Kombat land, they get Freddy Krueger.
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...I actually thought that was a joke when it was first announced. WTF. :facepalm:


#263

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Overflight said:
...I actually thought that was a joke when it was first announced. WTF. :facepalm:
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Wait... that's not a joke? I totally thought it was a joke...


#264

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

My god, they're actually making it....


#265

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Frankie Williamson said:
Well, Capcom washed their hands of Wright/Layton. They say it's up to Level 5 to do anything with.
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GOOD.


#266



Overflight

Ravenpoe said:
Wait... that's not a joke? I totally thought it was a joke...
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#267

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Quotemander Prime said:
GOOD.
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It's only good if they bother making it... which they might just be doing, considering they only just released the latest Professor Layton on the 3DS. But we haven't heard anything about it since the announcement... in fact, I never heard that Capcom was done with the project. When did they announce that?


#268

filmfanatic

filmfanatic

I'm thinking I might pick this up. I missed out on the first one, so at least I can jump in with this.

Also, I am interested with what exactly they'll do with Phoenix Wright as a fighting character. The most I can figure is him shouting "Objection!" as a projectile attack.


#269

Jax

Jax

Frankie Williamson said:
Man, I feel nothing for that game. I can't imagine the two games playing well together without completely crushing one style or the other.
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Shegokigo said:
They crushed the Tekken style. Gameplay footage is pure SF4 for the most part. None the less, I can't wait to use Kazuya to pound the entire Capcom cast into the ground.
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Actually, both companies are making a crossover game:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_X_Tekken and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tekken_X_Street_Fighter

The first one, Streetfighter X Tekken, is made by Capcom and thus incorporates gameplay a la SF. However, they have included some of Tekken's playstyle, apparently there's going to be an option to switch between styles.
Namco is going to make one as well (Tekken X Streetfighter), although that one is still in 'early development'. This version will of course have Tekken gameplay.

They basically swapped licenses to use each others characters.


#270

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Even though this whole "Ultimate" thing pisses me off to no end, here are videos for two of the new fighters:

Doctor Strange


Nemesis


#271

fade

fade

I'm no fighting game fan. In fact I think they're horribly repetitive after about 10 minutes. However, I would probably pay to see characters like Darth Vader and Freddy Krueger in one.


#272

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

So you mean Soul Calibur

and Mortal Kombat 9?


#273

fade

fade

Yes, that's what I was referring to. Somebody mentioned that including Freddy Krueger sounded like I joke. I was saying that I'm the person they were marketing those to.


#274

Tress

Tress

fade said:
Yes, that's what I was referring to. Somebody mentioned that including Freddy Krueger sounded like I joke. I was saying that I'm the person they were marketing those to.
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I know it could never happen due to licensing costs, but I think a completely random fighting game featuring various characters would do well. Darth Vader, Freddy Kruger, Rambo, whatever. If the roster was just filled with pop culture icons it would be awesome.


#275

Frank

Frankie Williamson

On the topic, I was super looking forward to seeing how Doc Strange played. SUPER disappointed. He looks really boring. On the other hand, Nemesis looks fantastic and I thought he was going to look like shit.


#276

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Frankie Williamson said:
On the topic, I was super looking forward to seeing how Doc Strange played. SUPER disappointed. He looks really boring. On the other hand, Nemesis looks fantastic and I thought he was going to look like shit.
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See, I thought the opposite. Strange seems to have a lot of moves designed to control the battlefield, but not a lot of direct attacks. It seems like the idea is to box in the opponent then go for the kill.

Nemisis, on the other hand, is basically what I thought he'd be: A few strong ranged moves and then some decently fast strong attacks, with a bit of transformation to give him range. It was entirely predictable.

I suspect Rocket Raccoon is going to be Marvel's version of Amaterasu: Small and quick, but with a lot of varied moves. I know he can fly and has a fondness for very large guns so it's very likely that his special will involve at least a gatling gun.


#277

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Yeah, his moveset looks predictable, I was more talking about aesthetically. He looks great.


#278

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Anyone who's played against a good Venom or Testament player in GGX can tell you that moves like Doc Strange's (Battlfield Control/Air Mines) can be BRUTAL when used effectively.


#279

Adam

Adammon

Frankie Williamson said:
On the topic, I was super looking forward to seeing how Doc Strange played. SUPER disappointed. He looks really boring. On the other hand, Nemesis looks fantastic and I thought he was going to look like shit.
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Agreed on all points. His style was like a character-swap with Magneto, right down to the kicks :( Nemesis had at least a semi-different style.


#280

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Uh, that's Nowhere near mags style. I can see where it may look similar but I can easily see that the gameplay won't be.


#281

Adam

Adammon

Shegokigo said:
Uh, that's Nowhere near mags style. I can see where it may look similar but I can easily see that the gameplay won't be.
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The first combo he does in the video is almost identical to a Mags melee combo.

His pick up and throw is, aside from the graphics, almost identical to the concept behind Mags throw. (Except Mags throws forward, not behind him)

His Hyper after the throw is a singular Magnetic Shockwave. His ranged is a palette swap of Magnetic Disrupter.

Also, FUCK CAPCOM FOR THIS GAME. Grr.

And I'm obviously not the only one to see the similarities:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/637240-ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3/60042320


#282

Frank

Frankie Williamson

His animations are VERY close to Magneto and a lot of his attack effects are just yellow versions of Magneto's purple crap he spews. They are very similar looking.
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His animations are VERY close to Magneto and a lot of his attack effects are just yellow versions of Magneto's purple crap he spews. They are very similar looking.


#283

Adam

Adammon

Frankie Williamson said:
His animations are VERY close to Magneto and a lot of his attack effects are just yellow versions of Magneto's purple crap he spews. They are very similar looking.
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His animations are VERY close to Magneto and a lot of his attack effects are just yellow versions of Magneto's purple crap he spews. They are very similar looking.
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I just want to add

His animations are VERY close to Magneto and a lot of his attack effects are just yellow versions of Magneto's purple crap he spews. They are very similar looking.


#284

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I'll double post on your face. I didn't realize you had posted after Shego.


#285

Adam

Adammon

Frankie Williamson said:
I'll double post on your face. I didn't realize you had posted after Shego.
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Would that be like 'dropping a deuce'? You're gross man.


#286

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Sorry, I see Venom/Testament (GGX) everytime I see that vid.

Maybe it's my years of playing GGX, maybe it's my years of playing MvC2 competitively.

Again, I see where you'd make the connection. The animations look similar but only when compared to each other. When viewed apart and compared otherwise, it's visibly different.

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In the Doc Strange video - :35 his throw feels more like Venom's Que Ball grab and direction misdirect toss than Mag's quick grab and toss.

The teleport in :42 is another of Venom's moves. Something that Mag's lacks and is a HUGE proponent to a character's gameplay. Teleport moves alone can completely revolutionize the way the character works.

The super move in :46 supercedes the super move being thrown at him, much like Venom's and nothing like Magneto's which are all eliminateable.

At :52 with the Air Mines is where he CLEARLY pull away from anything Magneto is going to offer. The Air Minefield gameplay is so far beyond that of almost any character in almost any fighting game that it's a very unique and easily noticeable gameplay. Venom and Testament pretty much live off the style. Nothing in MvC series comes close.

At :55 there is a "bubble" move that hits multiple times as it slowly charges toward the enemy. That is EXACTLY what Venom's main super move does. It charges, in a large glowing ball, towards an enemy and strikes at multiple hit boxes as it flows through the character. Again, Magneto has nothing of this sort.


#287

Adam

Adammon

Hahah, I keep reading Venom as the Spider-man character, not the GGX character and it makes me doubt your sanity. This is my problem, not yours ;)


#288

Tress

Tress





#289

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Not on topic, but since this is where all the Capcom hate existed:

http://www.gameblurb.net/news/capcom-refused-to-let-keiji-inafune-to-complete-mega-man-legends-3/

Eat. Shit.


#290



Overflight




...even though this was known for quite a while, it's worth repeating. They actually put friggin PHOENIX WRIGHT in this game.

...and is it just me or does he not punch or kick AT ALL? That's just WEIRD.


#291

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

It looks like Mr. Wright has a gimmick: He has to use his abilities to uncover evidence items during the fight in order to fuel his powers, but using certain powers uses up the evidence. Then he can do things with it...

- He can throw it at enemies like a projectile. This hurts them but uses up the item. This is probably to get rid of evidence you don't need.
- If he gets certain items, it changes his magnifying glass into his Attorney badge, which lets him summon the Judge for an attack. This doesn't do much damage but it does send the enemy flying. Perhaps it's like a combo breaker? It doesn't seem to use up his evidence though... maybe this is what happens if you try to use his Super with the wrong items?
- If he gets certain pieces of (I'm guessing) related evidence, he announces that he has all he needs and his magnifying glass/badge turns into his finger. This lets him perform his ultimate and successfully accuse his opponent. I'm willing to bet that this is incredibly damaging, if only because of how hard it's going to be to pull off in a match.

So using Phoenix Wright is a gamble: Your ether going to get the evidence you need right away and destroy your opponent or your going to get owned while looking for evidence. I'm guessing he's going to get banned from tournaments, depending on how strong his Level 3 is.


#292

Tress

Tress

Wow, Nova looks awesome. I don't know how he'll play but the visuals are badass.


#293



Overflight

Either Capcom is deliberately fucking with us (which unfortunately may be the case) or Mega Man appearing in the game in some capacity is NOT completely out of the question:



...at the very least give us him as DLC in the friggin Anniversary, Capcom!


#294

Tress

Tress

The only problem now is that Zero plays so close to how Mega Man would play. It would feel redundant, I think. Who knows, maybe they'll do it anyway. There are always at least 2 Wolverines nowadays.


#295

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Tress said:
The only problem now is that Zero plays so close to how Mega Man would play. It would feel redundant, I think. Who knows, maybe they'll do it anyway. There are always at least 2 Wolverines nowadays.
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Isn't Zero mainly an up close fighter who mainly uses his Z-Saber? Isn't that sort of the opposite of what Mega Man would do with his Mega Buster?


#296



Overflight

http://kotaku.com/5850166/you-can-play-as-galactus-in-ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3

wut?

...that doesn't look much fun...

(And no, you can't use him in multiplayer. He has his own little mode)


#297

Tress

Tress

Nice trailer.



#298

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Final Reveal: Frank West and Rocket Raccoon.



It looks like Frank has an interesting Level Up Mechanic... if he can nail a photo at the end of a combo or something, his basic weapon changes into a better form.

- Golf Club (start)
- Baseball Bat
- Fire Ax
- Defiler (Fire Ax/Sledgehammer combo)
- Chain Saw
- Paddle Saw (Kayak Paddle/Chain Saw combo)

He can also drink wine to recover health (or maybe just recover the red zone) but it makes him throw up later. Plus he can summon a zombie! It's basically his Tatsunoko Vs Capcom character with a few tweaks.



Rocket Raccoon seems to be able to nail you no matter where you go. His various traps can cover pretty much any location on the battlefield, plus he has a few homing projectiles and the ability to fly short periods. Also, his voice is FANTASTIC.


#299



Overflight

Further proof that Capcom truly hates its fans: Megaman X...as a Zero costume...that you must pay for.

http://www.gamespot.com/special_feature/marvelcapcom-final/image-feature/index.html?image=45


#300

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

:rofl:


#301

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

The sad part is a lot of those costumes are REALLY good. But yeah, fuck Capcom.


#302

Adam

Adammon

Overflight said:
Further proof that Capcom truly hates its fans: Megaman X...as a Zero costume...that you must pay for.

http://www.gamespot.com/special_feature/marvelcapcom-final/image-feature/index.html?image=45
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It gets worse. You can dress up Frank West as Megaman too.


Also, Jean Grey costume for Phoenix. SCREW YOU CAPCOM. Still not buying this ripoff :p


#303

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

The Frank West Megaman thing makes sense, as he could do it in Dead Rising and he did it for one of his attacks in Tatsunoko Vs Capcom.


#304

Bowielee

Bowielee

Y'know, I'll admit it, I really don't care that Mega Man isn't in MvC3.


#305



Encifer

Bowielee said:
Y'know, I'll admit it, I really don't care that Mega Man isn't in MvC3.
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Zero taking his place makes me very happy


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