[News] The USA Police State will never satisfy its lust for beating, gassing, and imprisoning minorities

Not all.

But security, police, army, all skew enormously towards the right, authoritarian, autocratic and discriminatory, and that's not even an opinion, tat's a clear fact supported by dozens of studies.
 
Cuomo has pretty rapidly burned through the good will he got from corona (that wasn't really earned in the first place).
 
Man literally trying to egg on peaceful protesters to fight him and start violence. Cop shows up and gentle taps him asking him to leave.

If the dude was black and saying any of that even within ten feet of the police he would already be on the floor, a face full of pepper spray and maybe taser wires sticking out of his back.

Don't get me wrong, I think the cop handled it fine, I just wish all cops handled the situation this way, rather then the reality in which cops treat so many people differently.
 
The mayor of Washington DC has formally ended the state of emergency and has asked for all extraordinary federal law enforcement be withdrawn.

The mayor has also had "Black Lives Matter" painted on 16th street near the White House. (NBC)
 
DC is the "Capital," it's the building that's the "Capitol." Argh.

--Patrick
 
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Fuck yeah.


(to be clear, the Emergency Response Team is their name for the riot police)
 
You learn something new everyday and today I learned something about America that absolutely fucking horrified me and chilled me to the fucking core.


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Are you fucking kidding me America.
 
Wait, the way it's written, does that mean there's a law specifically saying it's okay? Or just that there isn't a law against it?
 
Wait, the way it's written, does that mean there's a law specifically saying it's okay? Or just that there isn't a law against it?
In 35 states, it's legal to have 'consensual' sex with someone they're detaining.

I am without a proper way to express myself how fucking sick to my stomach that makes me.
 
In 35 states, it's legal to have 'consensual' sex with someone they're detaining.

I am without a proper way to express myself how fucking sick to my stomach that makes me.
Yeah, I can only imagine how many of those situations are actually "consensual." Fucking hell.
 
And for the ones that are nonconsensual, there's always Qualified Immunity.

--Patrick
 
The truth is that there are no rules prohibiting it. Sadly, this was the same case for correctional workers as well (which is one reason why unions got the boot in state service in WI - I'll let @Krisken tell about that, because I can only facepalm at what was said around the arguments against the bill).
 
It's insane to me. I never even thought that it would be different than here, where it expressly and profoundly illegal.
 

figmentPez

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Yeah, I can only imagine how many of those situations are actually "consensual." Fucking hell.
I can only imagine the answer is: ALL of them. Why would an officer admit to rape when they could just say "she wanted it"? So each and every instance of an officer having sex with someone in their custody is a rape where the officer has lied and said the woman consented.
 
The truth is that there are no rules prohibiting it. Sadly, this was the same case for correctional workers as well (which is one reason why unions got the boot in state service in WI - I'll let @Krisken tell about that, because I can only facepalm at what was said around the arguments against the bill).
Truth be told, I can barely keep up with the last couple years of insanity here.
 
You learn something new everyday and today I learned something about America that absolutely fucking horrified me and chilled me to the fucking core.


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Are you fucking kidding me America.
"The context often missed in the spread of both articles was that laws exist in several states classifying any sex as non-consensual if one participant is on-duty in a position of power (such as a corrections officer or social worker). (In New York State a law of a similar nature did not include “police officers” or “detainees” in its language.) "

according to snopes it is still on the books illegal to do what they are suggesting in that article in all 50 states, the issue is many states dont name call police in the letter of the laws. (BECAUSE WHY WOULD YOU THINK YOU HAVE TO TELL A POLICE OFFICER THEY CANT RAPE SOMEONE!?)
 

figmentPez

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"The context often missed in the spread of both articles was that laws exist in several states classifying any sex as non-consensual if one participant is on-duty in a position of power (such as a corrections officer or social worker). (In New York State a law of a similar nature did not include “police officers” or “detainees” in its language.) "

according to snopes it is still on the books illegal to do what they are suggesting in that article in all 50 states, the issue is many states dont name call police in the letter of the laws. (BECAUSE WHY WOULD YOU THINK YOU HAVE TO TELL A POLICE OFFICER THEY CANT RAPE SOMEONE!?)
I think you misread what Snopes said. Rape is illegal in all 50 states, but most states don't have laws saying that those in custody can't consent. Only a relative few sates have any such laws, and the ones in New York are, according to Snopes, vague and do not specifically address the police. So yes, it's illegal for police to rape prisoners... but only if you can convince the court it wasn't consensual, and that's exactly what Buzzfeed is saying is a problem.

This is like saying that it's criminal to steal people's money in all 50 states, to try to dismiss the fact that wage theft is only a civil matter. Grab $2,000 out of someone's hands, and it's grand theft, a felony. Steal $200,000 out of people's paychecks, and you're not even a criminal.
 
Even if you aren't a cop abolitionist or anything, it could be a basic strategy to say "hey, this isn't the place for us." But obviously as we all know, they aren't concerned with safety or order or anything. They just want to show they're in charge.
 

figmentPez

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I don't feel like you challenged what I said, just wrote it in different words.
I think it's an important distinction, especially when looking to the future. People can change their minds and decide they want to be taught, but more importantly, we can promote the idea the learning and education are important, and encourage more people to want to learn in the future.
 
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