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If the Yellowstone volcano suddenly erupts, I think I'll believe you.
GasBandit
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@figmentPez Military doctors have a stereotypical reputation for telling whiny troopies to just take some ibuprofen and get back to work. Bruised ribs? Ibuprofen. Broken arm? Ibuprofen. Ebola? Ibuprofen. Decapitated by a forklift? Stick some ibuprofen down his neckhole and tell his CO he's fit for duty.
My parents made it back to Taiwan and are now starting their mandatory 14 day quarantine.
When they left for the UK, they expected to be there for at least a couple of months, so they stopped the TV and Internet services.
Now that they're back, they want to get the TV and Internet back, except the TV and Internet company said they'd need to send a tech out to reconnect everything. However, as already mentioned, my parents are in quarantine so it'd be impossible to have a tech come into their home.
My parents are now stuck for two weeks with no television, no Internet (apart from their phones, which are on limited data plans), only a moderate supply of books, and a diet consisting of frozen dumplings and instant noodles.
As my dad put it, they plan on passing the time by quarreling.
When they left for the UK, they expected to be there for at least a couple of months, so they stopped the TV and Internet services.
Now that they're back, they want to get the TV and Internet back, except the TV and Internet company said they'd need to send a tech out to reconnect everything. However, as already mentioned, my parents are in quarantine so it'd be impossible to have a tech come into their home.
My parents are now stuck for two weeks with no television, no Internet (apart from their phones, which are on limited data plans), only a moderate supply of books, and a diet consisting of frozen dumplings and instant noodles.
As my dad put it, they plan on passing the time by quarreling.
I like your parents.
figmentPez
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“But that means 97 to 99 percent will get through this and develop immunities and will be able to move beyond this. But we don’t shut down our economy because tens of thousands of people die on the highways. It’s a risk we accept so we can move about. We don’t shut down our economies because tens of thousands of people die from the common flu,” - Republican Senator Ron Johnson
If we were expecting a 10x increase in automobile deaths in the coming year, you damn well bet we'd restrict driving more than we do!
If we were expecting a 10x increase in automobile deaths in the coming year, you damn well bet we'd restrict driving more than we do!
figmentPez
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Twitch streamer Kaceytron has been suspended indefinitely over coronavirus comments
"We would leave quarantine, and we would try to spread it as much as possible because the world would be a better place without old and poor people." - she said on stream.
"We would leave quarantine, and we would try to spread it as much as possible because the world would be a better place without old and poor people." - she said on stream.
Also, MORE people will die if we don't flatten the curve. Possible twice as many.
Julie takes NSAIDs multiple times a week for back pain and can't take acetaminophen because of interactions, but it sounds like she really needs to lay off the naproxen.
It's things like this that that remind me that many people don't understand on a practical perspective how staggeringly huge "only 3%" is in this sort of situation (going for middle-of-the-road badness, death-rate-wise). I'm quite confident that every human knows at least 33 people, and probably would be alarmed if one of those people were suddenly gone. And from his statements, the senator clearly doesn't understand the implication of that kind of increase - not just in deaths, but in moderately to critically ill people - in a short time period and the resulting burden on medical capacity. Heck, there are already discussions about veterinarians loaning equipment (ventilators, pumps, etc.) and our service to our MD compatriots should the need become severe. Or, more likely, the senator simply doesn't care about the upcoming crisis (plus he likely doesn't realize that money and insurance are of little help if there are literally no ICU beds or healthy medical personnel when you get sick or have a serious accident).
As to Kaceytron's comments, as horrifying as they are, the "moral converse" of that was briefly considered in the UK - namely, considering allowing the younger population to get sick and recover (simultaneously distancing/protecting vulnerable populations) to attempt to achieve sufficient temporary post-recovery immunity within that population to lessen spread of disease pending development of a vaccine. However, more information is becoming available about significant morbidity in younger (20-65 year old) populations, who have a greater chance of recovery than the geriatric patients, but still take up valuable ICU space/ventilators.
And @Squidleybits made a good point about NSAIDs and their chronic use (which are tough predominately on kidneys and the gastrointestinal tract). This can be important particularly for people who regularly take one type of NSAID (like aspirin) as part of a medical regimen, but require more aggressive therapy to address fever associated with this virus/influenza/etc., as NSAID affects and toxicity are additive (i.e. using Aleve on top of Advil on top of aspirin in a short time span has triple the deleterious effects due to the cumulative dose). Importantly, the WHO guidance is not intended to supersede standing orders from a physician (i.e. people shouldn't stop taking prescribed NSAIDs, corticosteroids, other immunosuppressants, or other medications to try to "lower their risk" of developing more serious disease should they be affected by coronavirus). When in doubt, ask your doctor, or if you're speaking with an urgent/emergent care doc, let them know ALL the medicines you take, including anything over the counter (and supplements, too - they have to be metabolized/excreted as well!)
It kinda sounds like something that might makes his views on other things suspect, too...like when people talk about 3% unemployment, or 3% homelessness, or how much a 3% tax increase would affect a populace.
In short, mandatory math qualification tests for candidates, I guess.
--Patrick
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Please advise her to be careful and if naproxen is the only option, to ask her doctor to keep an eye on her stomach and/or to prescribe medication to protect it. As a result of overuse, I can no longer take them due to the damage done to my stomach and I have an inflammatory disease where they’d come in handy. There are a few alternatives depending on the need. In other cases, there isn’t. It’s important to question being placed on the crazy strong ones too. They can cause damage quickly and not all doctors are equally well versed.
You’re totally right. It’s critical not to stop your meds. I was sick and feverish last week and my biologic clinic turned me away and told me to call my specialist about my other treatments. It’s very important to keep treating illness right now. The virus is more harmful to me and people with my family of diseases during flares and that may be true of other conditions too. The immune hits of our treatments are a risk, just not as great a risk. So, home I stay.
I just wanted to go on record that I did NOT vote for that idiot.
New Zealand just closed their borders to all non-residents. My family and I were heading there in 12 days and are now stuck in Brisbane. If we cannot work out a fix for our visa, we have to fly back to the U.S. and crash with my parents for 3 months while our house is built.
Here in MI I seem to be able to find mint, caramel, peanut butter, milk chocolate, and peanut, but no dark chocolate here, either.
Maybe it just wasn't popular enough?
He can still laugh.
I am impressed.
--Patrick
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This picture is apparently of military trucks being used to transport corpses out of Bergamo because they lack the capacity to deal with all of them. Link to article if anyone can read Italian.
Aaaand Australia just closed their borders too. This means we cannot reset our tourist visa by leaving the country and coming back again. It's new visa, hang out illegally, or go back to Seattle with the second highest number of infections in the country.
Also, the 3% is a median (sp?) between the lower mortality rates for lower age groups and the higher one for older age groups (like the one said senator is part of).
Say goodbye to 10% of your grandparents kids...
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That does look like around 10 pages, doesn't it.