Former President and Convicted Felon Trump Thread

"If we'd lost Harris County—Trump won by 620,000 votes in Texas. Harris County mail-in ballots that they wanted to send out were 2.5 million, those were all illegal and we were able to stop every one of them," Paxton told former Trump adviser Steve Bannon during the latter's War Room podcast on Friday. "Had we not done that, we would have been in the very same situation—we would've been on Election Day, I was watching on election night and I knew, when I saw what was happening in these other states, that that would've been Texas. We would've been in the same boat. We would've been one of those battleground states that they were counting votes in Harris County for three days and Donald Trump would've lost the election," the Republican official said.
Fuck you, Ken Paxton.
Fuck.
You.

This year I hope you get to watch Harris County become Harris County, and I also hope you die entirely of natural causes from the subsequent aneurysm.

--Patrick
 
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I would LOVE to see Texas flip. If I understand correctly, it's come close in the last few elections. If only voters can overcome the crazy amount of voter interference.
 

Fuck you, Ken Paxton.
Fuck.
You.

This year I hope you get to watch Harris County become Harris County, and I also hope you die entirely of natural causes from the subsequent aneurysm.

--Patrick
Oh, I see we've reached the point where they'll freely admit the only way Republicans can win is through outright voter suppression.

Also, Ken, just an FYI but Trump did lose the election. Joe Biden is the President right now. Maybe you need to watch something other than Fox "News" to keep up on these things.
 

figmentPez

Staff member
Oh, I see we've reached the point where they'll freely admit the only way Republicans can win is through outright voter suppression.
Only half admitting. They're still clinging to the lie that mail-in voting, with it's massive paper trail, is somehow more susceptible to fraud than electronic voting, some of which doesn't leave a paper trail in Texas.

This might be considered a dog-whistle. On the surface he's claiming "we're preventing fraud!" (and no small amount of people actually believe that claim), but to those who know he's saying "we're preventing minorities from voting".
 
It's just like what Texas and other Southern states did during Jim Crow. They would impose literacy tests, poll taxes, and intimidation to keep black voters from registering or casting ballots. It wasn't because these white Southerners were racist, of course. It was "to ensure election integrity." That's why Southern states tended to vote 95% Democratic from the end of Reconstruction until 1964. And now you have red counties that vote 95% Republican. They're the same kind of people motivated by the same bigotry. All they did was switch party affiliation.
 
While there are a LOT of problems with the Belgian political system (its only saving grace being that our whole country is smaller than LA so who cares how we run it?), at least the voting bit is better-organized to ensure maximum participation.
1. Voting day is a national holiday and NO-ONE can be prevented by employers from going to vote (polling places are open long enough that even those with jobs that need 24/7 staffing can have a shift switch and some can vote before, some after work)
2. Voting is a duty, not a right - you have to supply a reason not to vote (doctor's note, travel documents, whatever) and even so you can give someone else authorization to vote on your behalf)
3. Every citizen is automatically registered to vote and given a free voting ID
4. At least one voting spot per 2000 people and within max 2 kilometers of every voter; where this isn't feasible, free transportation to your nearest voting place; also transportation available for those who can't drive/walk/bike/get there themselves if they desire

About 85% of people of voting age vote; the majority of those who don't are either 80+ (nobody bothers to give a fine to the elderly in nursing homes and stuff...Though in some cities they just put a voting booth in the nursing home to make it easier for them) or are anti-system (and, well, fair enough I guess).

Sure, about 5% choose to cast an invalid or blank vote - that's also absolutely a right. But getting 80+% participation feels a heck of a lot more democratic than whatever it is those guys in your South do. Of course, this'll never happen in the US because of half a dozen reasons, most importantly that the Republicans wouldn't ever be able to win nationally. But, you know.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
While there are a LOT of problems with the Belgian political system (its only saving grace being that our whole country is smaller than LA so who cares how we run it?), at least the voting bit is better-organized to ensure maximum participation.
That's the thing. The party in question doesn't WANT maximum participation, because there's a direct correlation between voter turnout and them losing, because when you get right down to it the majority of the poors in the country do not support racism and billionaires, and the racists and billionaires - when confronted by being defeated democratically - will abandon democracy as their first resort.
 
While there are a LOT of problems with the Belgian political system (its only saving grace being that our whole country is smaller than LA so who cares how we run it?), at least the voting bit is better-organized to ensure maximum participation.
1. Voting day is a national holiday and NO-ONE can be prevented by employers from going to vote (polling places are open long enough that even those with jobs that need 24/7 staffing can have a shift switch and some can vote before, some after work)
2. Voting is a duty, not a right - you have to supply a reason not to vote (doctor's note, travel documents, whatever) and even so you can give someone else authorization to vote on your behalf)
3. Every citizen is automatically registered to vote and given a free voting ID
4. At least one voting spot per 2000 people and within max 2 kilometers of every voter; where this isn't feasible, free transportation to your nearest voting place; also transportation available for those who can't drive/walk/bike/get there themselves if they desire

About 85% of people of voting age vote; the majority of those who don't are either 80+ (nobody bothers to give a fine to the elderly in nursing homes and stuff...Though in some cities they just put a voting booth in the nursing home to make it easier for them) or are anti-system (and, well, fair enough I guess).

Sure, about 5% choose to cast an invalid or blank vote - that's also absolutely a right. But getting 80+% participation feels a heck of a lot more democratic than whatever it is those guys in your South do. Of course, this'll never happen in the US because of half a dozen reasons, most importantly that the Republicans wouldn't ever be able to win nationally. But, you know.
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Well, yes and no.
The Flemish parliament, for example can legally not fall or be reelected or anything. There's no "let's call a snap election" thing like France or the UK does. Our elections are as fixed as your presidential ones.
This has the slight downside (sarcasm if you couldn't tell) that in a region where about 30% of the votes go to extremists (either fascist or communist) nobody wants to rule with, you can get stuck with a non-functional government or no coalition at all possible.
And of course, we can choose for the candidates, but we can't influence the lists. The party leaders pretty much run our country as they please. Whether party A has 15% and party B has 25% or vice versa doesn't actually matter, they'll have to govern together anyway and the party leaders decide who's in what spot.
 
People are also saying that the way some of the articles are worded, the phones in question might already be broken into, it's a handful of apps that they can't get into. Does he think Tim Apple is going to brute force his way into some server facility in Sweden to download encrypted chat logs from some 3rd party app for him?

Yes, yes he does, because he's probably the same kind of guy who thinks someone has hacked his computer when really his wireless mouse is just upside-down.

--Patrick
 
So couchfucker showd up at a very popular restaurant and wants to film a vignette inside, management says "Who are you? Get the fuck outta here, stop bothering our customers!" So couchfucker is forced to film in the parking lot.

Like how hard is it to call ahead? Maybe not interupt lunch hour?
 

Dave

Staff member
So couchfucker showd up at a very popular restaurant and wants to film a vignette inside, management says "Who are you? Get the fuck outta here, stop bothering our customers!" So couchfucker is forced to film in the parking lot.

Like how hard is it to call ahead? Maybe not interupt lunch hour?
And the right is losing their minds and wanting to boycott the restaurant. Who, by the way, was NOT told in advance they were coming.
 
I'm starting to think that maybe a lot of leading Republicans were kidnapped and replaced with pod people. It's hard to imagine a non-autistic person being that awkward all the time. In fact, I know a lot of autistic/OCD people who can hold a conversation and read a room better than Vance can.
 
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I sincerely doubt that's going to be the defining October Surprise. What does it say anybody doesn't already know? Trump's biggest bloc of supporters just doesn't believe any of it or agrees with it, and anyone who thinks this may be true (and of course it is), is already voting against him.

The ever-escalating Middle East war and Biden's reluctance to offend either the left or the right will be far more decisive, IMHO. Netanyahu would love for Trump to come back. Putin wants Trump to come back. Xi wants Trump back. I expect further international escalation aimed at making the US, Biden, and by extension, Harris, look weak.
 
October Surprise.

Bombshell immunity filing details Trump's alleged 'increasingly desperate' bid to overturn 2020 election


The lengthy filing -- which includes an 80-page summary of the evidence gathered by investigators -- outlines multiple instances in which Trump allegedly heard from advisers who disproved his allegations, yet continued to spread his claims of outcome-determinative voter fraud, prosecutors said.
This might be a dumb question, but is this new information? Didn't we already know he tried to overturn the election? There was that recorded phone call between him and I believe the governor of Georgia, for example.
 
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