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#1



Qonas

Who can't wait for Mass Effect 2? I can't. Seriously. It's so bad I have no interest in Dragon Age: Origins except to see the thing on shelves already, which means we're that much closer to ME2.

Reapers. Cerberus. Wrex. Shepard. I need my fix!!!

Also, needed to have this thread just so these pictures could be posted. Found them on the Penny Arcade forums, from a Brazilian (hey JCM!) user there:





#2

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Shegokigo Shepard cannot wait to get back and brutally beat her way through mission objectives again. Hopefully the "Renegade" side is a bit more "indepth" with the "choice style" of options.


#3



RealBigNuke

To be honest, I'm looking forward to DA:O a lot more.

Although ME2 does look pretty good - here's hoping my biotic/tech/sniper character gets some shiny new abilities to toy with and make the fights even more unfair.


#4

Gusto

Gusto

Man Wrex was awesome.

I wonder what racists I get to kill THIS time! Can't wait!


#5



GeneralOrder24

I'll pick it up, and I'm sure I'll enjoy it, but my biggest gripe about the first is you never got to be evil enough. Sure, you could pick the "evil" option, but Ol' Dick Shepard always seemed to try too damn hard to justify the choice. I want conversation trees that allow you to be a flagrant intergalactic douchebag. Something like this.

Morally Questionable Quasi-Villain: "Do you really think that killing me will solve your problems?"

Good response: "Perhaps You're right. I'll let you go, but don't show your face around here again.
Neutral response: "One less criminal in the galaxy is always a good thing."
Evil Response: "No, I just have alot of extra ammunition and no place to store it."

Game one was severely lacking in option 3, I thought. I think the reason it suffered is you were limited to three options for your conversation progression trees, and they always picked a lawful evil response over a chaotic one (Which are always great)

If I knew they improved upon that, I'd be just as giddy with anticipation as you guys, but for now, I'm just gonna sit back and wait.


#6

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

I think the problem is you guys were expecting more of a Sith than a Renegade. It seems to me they mean it in the sense of a bad-boy kind of guy moreso than anything else, i.e. do what you know is right, but in whatever way you want, morals and regulations be damned.


#7



Iaculus

Actually, I thought much of the point of Renegade versus Paragon was so that you didn't have the black-and-white choice of shiny sparkly goodness or baby-eating. If nothing else, it made it more conceivable that others would put up with your shit.


#8

bhamv3

bhamv3

I want to be able to punch more snooty reporters.


#9



RealBigNuke

I want to be able to punch more snooty reporters.
That was probably one of my favorite moments in the game. Coincidentally, so was decking that blithering doomsayer at the start of the game. I wish you could finish more conversations that way!


#10



Alucard

I'm looking forward to it but I've got a question I've already beaten Mass Effect for the PC several times but deleted all my content.

Will I be seriously handicapped if I play Mass Effect 2 without my previous files from Mass Effect 1?


#11



GeneralOrder24

I think the problem is you guys were expecting more of a Sith than a Renegade. It seems to me they mean it in the sense of a bad-boy kind of guy moreso than anything else, i.e. do what you know is right, but in whatever way you want, morals and regulations be damned.
Eh, I wanted something where my options were more than just "Picard or Kirk" (I realize it's not quite THAT black and white.) The heritage of the game studio screams for it. I'm not just talking KOTOR, either, it goes back much further than that. It becomes less of an RPG when you have less play choices.

I miss the fallout days where you had the option to steer pretty much any conversation into combat.


#12

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Eh, I wanted something where my options were more than just "Picard or Kirk" (I realize it's not quite THAT black and white.)
So you wanted a Janeway and Sisko option?

Janeway: Ignore the rules and have everyone praise you for it, despite the fact your directly responsible for the deaths of everyone on board your vessel. Violating the principles of you swore to uphold gets you into the mess, while not violating them again is what keeps you in it.

Sisko: Get away with murder because your treated like divinity by an endangered race, until you lose your mind and seek revenge on the asshole who's been prodding you for years. Oh, and your actually an alien but don't know it.


#13

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Well, there goes my interest in ever seeing Deep Space 9. Thanks Ash.


#14



GeneralOrder24

Eh, I wanted something where my options were more than just "Picard or Kirk" (I realize it's not quite THAT black and white.)
So you wanted a Janeway and Sisko option?

Janeway: Ignore the rules and have everyone praise you for it, despite the fact your directly responsible for the deaths of everyone on board your vessel. Violating the principles of you swore to uphold gets you into the mess, while not violating them again is what keeps you in it.

Sisko: Get away with murder because your treated like divinity by an endangered race, until you lose your mind and seek revenge on the asshole who's been prodding you for years. Oh, and your actually an alien but don't know it.[/quote]

Benjamin Lafayette Sisko is the baddest motherfucker to have ever existed in the Star Trek universe. There are two main rules in DS9: 1: Nobody fucks with Sisko when he's angry 2: Those who try, learn nobody fucks with Sisko when he's angry.


#15



Occasional Poster

Well, there goes my interest in ever seeing Deep Space 9. Thanks Ash.
This. :mad:


#16

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Well, there goes my interest in ever seeing Deep Space 9. Thanks Ash.
This. :mad:[/QUOTE]

It's been off the air for 10 years. It is officially beyond the scoop of the spoiler law. Besides, it honestly felt tacked on in the last season... like they were trying to think of a way to get rid of Sisko as a character without killing him. It's especially bad because there wasn't jack in foreshadowing for it.

Still, go and watch DS9. Your not watching it for the story, your watching it for the characters.


#17

Bowielee

Bowielee

Still, go and watch DS9. Your not watching it for the story, your watching it for the characters.
Shego, could you link the Scanners head explode .gif on this one for me?


#18

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Still, go and watch DS9. Your not watching it for the story, your watching it for the characters.
Shego, could you link the Scanners head explode .gif on this one for me?[/QUOTE]

It's kind of like watching stuff by Donald P. Bellisario after Quantum Leap: The over arching plot isn't always that good, but the actually character interactions usually are.

Except for Odo. He was kinda a one trick pony the entire series. MORN was more interesting than him and he never said a god damn word.


#19



Occasional Poster

Well, there goes my interest in ever seeing Deep Space 9. Thanks Ash.
This. :mad:[/QUOTE]

It's been off the air for 10 years. It is officially beyond the scoop of the spoiler law. [/QUOTE]

Yes, that is a valid point. It's been 10 years and I am still on the third season so I guess I can't expect to avoid spoilers easily. I was mostly just surprised by getting DS9 spoiled in a thread about ME2.

Speaking of ME2, I can't wait!

I am very curious about the improved combat mechanics. I think the new characters that have been revealed so far look very interesting.


#20



Qonas

Well, there goes my interest in ever seeing Deep Space 9. Thanks Ash.
This. :mad:[/QUOTE]

It's been off the air for 10 years. It is officially beyond the scoop of the spoiler law. [/QUOTE]

Yes, that is a valid point. It's been 10 years and I am still on the third season so I guess I can't expect to avoid spoilers easily. I was mostly just surprised by getting DS9 spoiled in a thread about ME2.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to the wonders of Halforums. :p But still, continue with your DS9 watching. You're literally just getting to all the good stuff, where the small story hints and character quirks that will drive the meat of the series are being dropped and established. Just because some part of Sisko has gotten spoiled (and even then, Ash oversimplified the "revenge" part. It isn't even revenge at all as....well, you'll see :p ) doesn't mean you should stop. That spoiler doesn't tell you what is going on in and around the station, and with all the other characters. And, as it's been stated, DS9 was very much character driven.

Love that show. :D

As for ME2, it looks like the new combat mechanics are going to provide for some smooth commando-style controls. The new reloading bit is going to add much to the game, I think, even if there's a wacky storyline reason for it (just like with the unlimited ammo). Cover's nothing new but seems upgraded, which'll be a plus.

The new characters are kinda interesting, but seem like a continuation of characters from the first game. Tits McGee being the Ashley-type, the assassin dude being a Wrex-type, etc. That's not to say the assassin doesn't look and seem cool, which he does. But he's basically filling the same role Wrex did so it doesn't seem like anything new is being brought to the table. If the rumors are true, however, about the
Salarian scientist
then THAT character will quite possibly rock hardcore. :p


#21

Necronic

Necronic

Mass effect was such a let down for me. I picked it up again and played it through a second time (not all the way) and was just so meh'd by the whole thing. Granted, my opinions are mine alone, but I don't care too much about the sequel. DA:O is definitely on my watchlist though. want want want.


#22

Nile

Nile

I really, really, really hope they bring Wrex back.

The rest of them, I don't really care about.


#23

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Fucking A! A salarian? God damn that's pleasing.


#24

Bowielee

Bowielee

I killed Wrex off :p


#25

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I killed Wrex off :p
You WOULD. :devil:

As for me? It was all about Liara and Tali. We were sexy bitches, kicking alien ass and blowing shit up. Threeways after every successful mission too. :unibrow:


#26

bhamv3

bhamv3

I killed Wrex off :p
You WOULD. :devil:

As for me? It was all about Liara and Tali. We were sexy bitches, kicking alien ass and blowing shit up. Threeway's after every successful mission too. :unibrow:[/QUOTE]

Plus Liara and Tali actually made for a pretty well-rounded team. One's for biotics, the other's for tech. I usually give them both shotguns equipped with explosive rounds. They don't shoot often, but when they do, they make it count.


#27

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Their skills + My sniping, shit was dead WAY before it knew we were even on the planet. :twisted:


#28

CynicismKills

CynicismKills

I was the combat/tech mix (class name eludes me) with Ashley and Liara as backup. Worked out pretty well.

The tattoo'd character they just announced seems kinda stupid to me, at least in the context she was presented (herp derp I'm a bad girl who swears and wants to bone, I'm a unique snowflake!).


#29

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I was the combat/tech mix (class name eludes me) with Ashley and Liara as backup. Worked out pretty well.

The tattoo'd character they just announced seems kinda stupid to me, at least in the context she was presented (herp derp I'm a bad girl who swears and wants to bone, I'm a unique snowflake!).
If Tali isn't back in ME2, I think I know who's partnering with Liara and me. :twisted:


#30

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

The tattoo'd character they just announced seems kinda stupid to me, at least in the context she was presented (herp derp I'm a bad girl who swears and wants to bone, I'm a unique snowflake!).
This. That was a stale sterotype in the 90's and it's almost 2010. They could have done a little better.


#31

Nile

Nile

I killed Wrex off :p
MONSTER! :mad:

My party was always Tali and Wrex... We left no survivors. :D


#32



Iaculus

Fucking A! A salarian? God damn that's pleasing.
No kidding. I mean, we've had reps from both the other Council races. Wonder what'll be the deal with this guy? In the last game, a lot of the aliens were playing against their species stereotype to some extent - for instance, the disciplined turians produced Garrus the maverick, whilst the cheerfully brutal krogan produced Wrex the disillusioned warrior-poet.


#33

bhamv3

bhamv3

Fucking A! A salarian? God damn that's pleasing.
No kidding. I mean, we've had reps from both the other Council races. Wonder what'll be the deal with this guy? In the last game, a lot of the aliens were playing against their species stereotype to some extent - for instance, the disciplined turians produced Garrus the maverick, whilst the cheerfully brutal krogan produced Wrex the disillusioned warrior-poet.[/QUOTE]

Salarians have fast metabolisms and tend to have quick, hyperactive mannerisms, so this guy will probably be slow and deliberate.

Also, he'll have a very short name.


#34

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Fucking A! A salarian? God damn that's pleasing.
No kidding. I mean, we've had reps from both the other Council races. Wonder what'll be the deal with this guy? In the last game, a lot of the aliens were playing against their species stereotype to some extent - for instance, the disciplined turians produced Garrus the maverick, whilst the cheerfully brutal krogan produced Wrex the disillusioned warrior-poet.[/quote]

Salarians have fast metabolisms and tend to have quick, hyperactive mannerisms, so this guy will probably be slow and deliberate.

Also, he'll have a very short name.[/QUOTE]

Hell, they only live for what, 40 years? Life's too short for more than one syllable.

I've read that he's a scientist, but I'm hoping that he takes a page from the salarian military style of ethics, which is basically a bunch of black ops who will sneak in and pwn your ass before the war even starts.


#35

bhamv3

bhamv3

Fucking A! A salarian? God damn that's pleasing.
No kidding. I mean, we've had reps from both the other Council races. Wonder what'll be the deal with this guy? In the last game, a lot of the aliens were playing against their species stereotype to some extent - for instance, the disciplined turians produced Garrus the maverick, whilst the cheerfully brutal krogan produced Wrex the disillusioned warrior-poet.[/quote]

Salarians have fast metabolisms and tend to have quick, hyperactive mannerisms, so this guy will probably be slow and deliberate.

Also, he'll have a very short name.[/QUOTE]

Hell, they only live for what, 40 years? Life's too short for more than one syllable.

I've read that he's a scientist, but I'm hoping that he takes a page from the salarian military style of ethics, which is basically a bunch of black ops who will sneak in and pwn your ass before the war even starts.[/QUOTE]

Ah yes, just like the Silent Step, who defeated a nation with a single shot. Or the Ever Alert, who kept armies at bay with hidden facts.

(I love Kirrahe!)


#36

Gusto

Gusto

I too used Liara and Tali, as a female soldier Shephard.

...Screw this, I'm replaying the game. :)


#37



Iaculus

My team was Ashley and Wrex. I was playing as an Infiltrator, you see. End result: lots of firepower and enough tech and biotic support to round it all out.

Spectre pistol with explosive rounds = awesome. I mean, if you can have a Mass Effect bolt pistol, why would you not want to?

Also, seconded on the Kirrahe badassery. Observe:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXLVFnl3WcE[/ame]


#38



Qonas

I went through the game with two characters: a male Paragon vanguard and a female Renegade solider (with Singularity). Both games I killed off Carth/Kaiden because I simply can't stand that guy's voice, with the exception of Star Wars: Republic Commando.

My party with the vanguard was Ashley and Wrex. My party with the soldier was Tali and Liara. The end result in both parties was just pure, unadulterated destruction and badassery. I have to say I prefer playing as the solider, as I can sit there and just soak up insane amounts of damage with Immunity which allows me free time to micro Tali and Liara's abilities. Plus just sitting there with Immunity on and laughing off nearly every attack is just awesome. :D

I'm thoroughly convinced Bioware made a playable Salarian character solely from the response to Captain Kirrahe.


#39

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Today, Bioware released a new wallpaper for ME2. I don't know if it's only for halloween, or if it actually alludes to something that happens in game, but all I could think of was "oh shit oh shit oh shit!"

Spoilered, due to possible spoilers


#40

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit!


#41

Nile

Nile

Shit shit shit! No!

shit!


#42

bhamv3

bhamv3

Wait... what is that exactly?

Zombie Shepard? Reaper implanted Shepard? Evil twin/clone Shepard? Shepard when you choose the Renegade path? Shepard with really bad acne?


#43

Nile

Nile

My guess is that it's another vision Shepard gets. How it'll relate to the story? Not entirely sure. Maybe you get tempted to be like Saren was in the first game... It needs to hurry up and be released dammit!


#44

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

It could be a vision. It could just be an image released for halloween. But I like to hope it's a possible outcome for shepherd.

One of the themes of the game is "How far are you willing to go to save the universe?" Maybe this could play into the renegade path, with Shepherd being tempted to use his enemy's technology against them. Becoming what he's fighting in order to defeat them, etc etc.

Or maybe Shepherd dies, and this is evil reanimated shepherd that becomes the villain for number three.


#45

Gusto

Gusto

GODDAMNIT RELEASE DATE PLZ.


#46

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

GODDAMNIT RELEASE DATE PLZ.

1/26/2010


#47

Gusto

Gusto

Thanks. :)


#48

Andi

Drachenherz

I started playing Mass Effect 1 two days ago.

Oh my mother-effing-gawd... HOW COULD I NOT PLAY Mass Effect 1 UP UNTIL NOW!

Please, someone punish me for that.
Now I'm completely hooked withy my blonde, hawt and tough Janis Shephard... Can't wait to get my fix when I get home tonight...

And yes. I am completely looking forward to ME2... But first, let me finish part 1...


#49

Gusto

Gusto

What class, Andi?

Paragon or Renegade?


#50

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

That spoiler image is definitely gonna be from a vision.


#51

Andi

Drachenherz

What class, Andi?

Paragon or Renegade?
I don't know the english name for the class, but I have biotics and combat abilities.

And at the moment I'm about 50-50 paragon/renegade.

I just do what feels right at the moment. Sometimes it's slapping an idiot in the face, sometimes it's offering some words of comfort.

Don't forget, I'm playing a woman after all... ^^


#52

Gusto

Gusto

You're a Vanguard, cool, I was too on my first playthrough.


#53



Iaculus

Infiltrator all the way, baby.

Played too many RPGs beforehand to want to come up against one of those pesky locked crates with nothing to sort it.


#54

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Can't really recall what I was. I sniped shit and I sniped it good. Left all the "mental" powers to Liara and all the "tech" to Tali.


#55

Gusto

Gusto

Infiltrator all the way, baby.

Played too many RPGs beforehand to want to come up against one of those pesky locked crates with nothing to sort it.
Me too, so I kept Kaiden on my team until I got Tali, then immediately made her max out her Electronics.


#56



Qonas

Kaiden, meh.

The beginning of the supposed "flood" of ME2 info is starting to come out. There's a new trailer and interview video posted, with spoilers, and there's going to be an entire episode on SpikeTV devoted solely to Mass Effect 2. The countdown's begun, woohoo!


#57

Enresshou

Enresshou

My team was Ashley and Wrex. I was playing as an Infiltrator, you see. End result: lots of firepower and enough tech and biotic support to round it all out.

Spectre pistol with explosive rounds = awesome. I mean, if you can have a Mass Effect bolt pistol, why would you not want to?

Also, seconded on the Kirrahe badassery. Observe:

Oh, god DAMNIT. I forgot how awesome that speech is.

Starting tomorrow, I'm going for a third play-through before it comes out in January. And have now pre-ordered the Collector's Edition.


#58

Bowielee

Bowielee

I started replaying ME again. OMG, I forgot how awsome the game is. I'm going infiltrator/renegade all the way.

One complaint I have, and it's not exclusive to ME.

Why do games like this give you the option of being a sniper type of character and then force you into situations where you HAVE to fight in close quarters? I finally gave up with my assasin in Oblivion and went for a mage oriented character because it was rare where I could actually hide in the shadows and plink off the enemies with my bow, which is what the whole purpose of an assassin build is.

At least with ME, you can max out your pistol skill for close combat.


#59

Math242

Math242

pistol is the best weapon in the game anyway. Sniper rifle is just for shit and kicks


#60

bhamv3

bhamv3

I can only think of one, that's right one, situation in the whole game where the sniper rifle is the best weapon for the situation. It's that side quest where you're locked in the mine shaft with a live nuclear device, and when you emerge from the mine you're on a tall hillside overlooking the enemy camp.


#61

Bowielee

Bowielee

Don't get me wrong, I'm using the sniper rifle a ton. I got a great amount of use in it in the Bring Down the Sky content. Which, BTW got me what looks to be the best omni-tool in the game.

Also, when I played through it before I pretty much stuck to the main storyline quests. I never realized that I missed out on a great big chunk of not only gameplay, but also in storylines.


#62

Jay

Jay

I finally gave up with my assasin in Oblivion and went for a mage oriented character because it was rare where I could actually hide in the shadows and plink off the enemies with my bow, which is what the whole purpose of an assassin build is.
Wait.. what? I beg to differ... my main character in Oblivion was all about the sneaking and assasinating. The only issue is that bows is that it took more time to get to higher multipliers when sneak killing. Once the skill would hit about 70, it started to get OP.

And nothing beats a stiff whack in the back of the head with a knockdown enhanced mace. Take them down and beat them into a pump.

:whoo:


#63

Bowielee

Bowielee

I finally gave up with my assasin in Oblivion and went for a mage oriented character because it was rare where I could actually hide in the shadows and plink off the enemies with my bow, which is what the whole purpose of an assassin build is.
Wait.. what? I beg to differ... my main character in Oblivion was all about the sneaking and assasinating. The only issue is that bows is that it took more time to get to higher multipliers when sneak killing. Once the skill would hit about 70, it started to get OP.

And nothing beats a stiff whack in the back of the head with a knockdown enhanced mace. Take them down and beat them into a pump.

:whoo:[/QUOTE]

Which is fine in the various overworld dungeons and such, but most of the main questlines force you into close quarters.


#64

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I started replaying ME again. OMG, I forgot how awsome the game is. I'm going infiltrator/renegade all the way.

One complaint I have, and it's not exclusive to ME.

Why do games like this give you the option of being a sniper type of character and then force you into situations where you HAVE to fight in close quarters? I finally gave up with my assasin in Oblivion and went for a mage oriented character because it was rare where I could actually hide in the shadows and plink off the enemies with my bow, which is what the whole purpose of an assassin build is.

At least with ME, you can max out your pistol skill for close combat.
You're doing it wrong.

I used my sniper rifle in about 95% of the content in game.


#65

Bowielee

Bowielee

I started replaying ME again. OMG, I forgot how awsome the game is. I'm going infiltrator/renegade all the way.

One complaint I have, and it's not exclusive to ME.

Why do games like this give you the option of being a sniper type of character and then force you into situations where you HAVE to fight in close quarters? I finally gave up with my assasin in Oblivion and went for a mage oriented character because it was rare where I could actually hide in the shadows and plink off the enemies with my bow, which is what the whole purpose of an assassin build is.

At least with ME, you can max out your pistol skill for close combat.
You're doing it wrong.

I used my sniper rifle in about 95% of the content in game.[/QUOTE]

I'm in the infested station, there is zero distance to use a sniper rifle. Like I said, I use the rifle all the time, but I hate the fact that it pidgeon holes you into using close quarters.


#66

Math242

Math242

Mass effect is easy enough (except beginning on hardcore) that you could finish the game using only the melee attack so it doesn't really matter anyway.

hmmm I think i might try that


#67

bhamv3

bhamv3

I just fired up Mass Effect again.

You know how in games like Half-Life, or Team Fortress 2, or Fallout 3, or Left 4 Dead, you get in the habit of reloading constantly? Fire a short burst from your assault rifle and then you instinctively hit the R key? Yeah, that key's mapped to grenades in Mass Effect.

"Reload! Wait, no, my grenades!"


#68

Gusto

Gusto

I just fired up Mass Effect again.

You know how in games like Half-Life, or Team Fortress 2, or Fallout 3, or Left 4 Dead, you get in the habit of reloading constantly? Fire a short burst from your assault rifle and then you instinctively hit the R key? Yeah, that key's mapped to grenades in Mass Effect.

"Reload! Wait, no, my grenades!"
Yeah that is AWFUL.

And then I remember that I never HAVE TO RELOAD. :mad:


#69



Qonas

Don't worry you two, apparently we now have ammo counts and reloading so all shall be well. :D

Also:

Salarian scientist!


#70

bhamv3

bhamv3

Don't worry you two, apparently we now have ammo counts and reloading so all shall be well. :D

Also:

Salarian scientist!
You guys will have ammo counts and reloading. My rig will almost certainly be too crappy to play ME2, so I'll be stuck killing Saren and Sovereign again and again. (And bedding Liara and Ashley again and again!)


#71

Null

Null

Since I don't have an Xbox at all, I have missed out on ME1 and will miss out on ME2. *sad fat hobbit*


#72

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Since I don't have an Xbox at all, I have missed out on ME1 and will miss out on ME2. *sad fat hobbit*
You have a computer, don't you, genius?


#73

Null

Null

Since I don't have an Xbox at all, I have missed out on ME1 and will miss out on ME2. *sad fat hobbit*
You have a computer, don't you, genius?[/QUOTE]

Not one that can run ME. I'm using a Dell Dimension 4500 from 2002, and it wasn't a gaming-level rig when I bought it. I can just about run Civ 2 on it.


#74

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Well then, you know what you need to do. :humph:


#75

Null

Null

I suppose I do.

*looks around for revolver*


#76

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

No need for a gun:



#77

Null

Null

You don't rob a Kwik-E-Mart by ritualistically disemboweling oneself.


#78

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

You don't rob a Kwik-E-Mart by ritualistically disemboweling oneself.
You and are I, are not even reading the same book, much less on the same page. :eek:rly:


#79

@Li3n

@Li3n

You don't rob a Kwik-E-Mart by ritualistically disemboweling oneself.
You and are I, are not even reading the same book, much less on the same page. :eek:rly:[/QUOTE]

That's precisely why all book but the Koran need to be burned...


#80

Null

Null

You don't rob a Kwik-E-Mart by ritualistically disemboweling oneself.
You and are I, are not even reading the same book, much less on the same page. :eek:rly:[/QUOTE]

I'm okay with that.


#81

Bowielee

Bowielee

Well, I'm about halfway through the main storyline of my in depth playthrough of ME 1. My GOD I missed out on so much by rushing through the main storyline the first time I played it. I never even got to the point the first time where you got the specialization talent for your class.

It's like playing a whole nother game.


#82



Qonas

Woohoo IT'S HERE

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TPfJ1qY4Z4[/ame]

The full length Mass Effect 2 cimematic 'Blur' trailer. We don't have a smiley that's giddy enough to properly reflect my excitement!

EDIT: We now also have this:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxQci156ey0[/ame]

If these go down, just check YouTube for it. Or DL it to your 360, which you should have anyways. :p


#83

Jay

Jay

Fuck yes! Nice.

I've been playing ME1 religiously since Sunday morning. I want to finish the game one last time.

And GOD DAMN at 0:18.... they can make beautiful graphics all right. Who the hell is that and does Shepard get to grind her? :)


#84

Math242

Math242

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. can't wait


#85

bhamv3

bhamv3

The hot girl at 0:18 is named Miranda Lawson. She's one of the main female characters, so we'll probably have a shot at her, yes.

And while I'm a huge Martin Sheen fan, I think his voice may be a little too distinctive. Breaks immersion for me.

Having said that itsy bitsy nitpick though, I'm now going to watch those videos non-stop for the rest of the night. Want this game soooooooo much...

Also, I think we might have found a krogan even more badass than Wrex now. THAT GUY FUCKING SOLO'D A THRESHER MAW!!!!


#86



Qonas

I was definitely in the "He ain't Wrex so he must not be cool" camp, but yeah. Damn.
In Krogan society, females don't wear make-up. Males do. And by make-up, we of course mean thresher maw guts and viscera.

As for Miranda Lawson,
she was apparently engineered by Cerberus to be the perfect woman in form and personality. Which throws her right into my "not trusting you, bitch" pile. Even if she's voiced and modeled after Yvonne Strahovski.

My only issue with Martin Sheen's voice? The pseudo-goons on the PA forums turning into weak-at-the-knees buffoons because he's in the game.


#87



Alucard

All I'm hoping is that you'll be able to have more possible love interests.

MEI was okay but its like why can't you have both??

I wonder if you can decide or not if you can kill this Krogen as well.

I shot Wrex in the first one. Just pulled out my pistol and said "Get the fuck out the way"

In the recent GameInformer magazine I got they had an interesting article on ME2. Apparently they were comparing the new Nomrandy to the Enterprise and the old Normandy to the Millenium Falcon.

You can also buy fish for your aquarium as well from what I read.

Should probably re install and replay MEI just so when I get MEII I'lll have all my saved shit to start with.


#88

Jay

Jay

The part where I had to choose to kill Wrex was tough. In the end... I gave him life... just so that he can feel the doomed feeling of his race some more. :decision:

Yea, I hated how they shut down one love angle the MOMENT you said something nice to Liara. I was like, OH SHIT, I thought I was just flirting! How the FUCK does Ashley know? Telepathic? GODDAMN, how are playahs supposed to roll in the 2400s?


#89



Alucard

Actually installing MEI right now. Pretty excited about ME2.

Yeah hope Bioware fixed the love triangle a bit. Tough when you only got one angle to go on lol.

This, AVP, ModNation Racers, and GOWIII are the most anticipated titles I'm looking forward too.

I'm wondering how you'll be able to kill Shepard off though if you want too, who will you play as then in the 3rd one?

If its like the self sacrificing crap like ending at FO3 then I'm not sacrificing him that way.

I want a heroic noble, go down in flames of glory way.


#90



Iaculus

As for Miranda Lawson,
she was apparently engineered by Cerberus to be the perfect woman in form and personality. Which throws her right into my "not trusting you, bitch" pile. Even if she's voiced and modeled after Yvonne Strahovski.
That, or give her a big hug (after carefully ensuring that all weaponisable objecs are well out of arm's reach). I mean, being built from the ground up by freakin' Cerberus? Damn, that has to suck.

Why, yes, I generally play Paragon. What was your first hint?


#91

Bowielee

Bowielee

I think I just....

I KNOW I just came.


#92

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

While I was thinking about ME2 yesterday, I realized I no longer have my old save game on the PC version. That means I will be unable to really "continue" my old Shepard, which made me kind of sad.

I was thinking of playing through again with a new Shepard. Last time I was a Paragon, but maybe this time I will play a Renegade, but I admit, it is hard for me to choose the "bad" options in dialogue and such. I might just play a Paragon again but switch up my partners, last time I used pretty much Garrus and Ashley, with some Liara mixed in, maybe I should take Tali and Wrex for more of a spin this time around, or even Kaiden, who in my last play pretty much stood around my ship till I killed him off to make sweet love to Ashley. :peace:

In the end, I am just glad Garrus is back as a recruitable in ME2. He was my favorite companion. Wrex seems to win most of the popularity with fans, but I always liked Garrus because he seemed like a guy trying to do the right thing any way he could, a bit cold sometimes, a bit honest others. Him and Tali were actually my favorite characters overall, even though I never took Tali fighting with me, depending on how I like the new characters I might make them my fighting duo in ME2.


#93



Qonas

Absolutely agreed on Garrus and Tali, but Wrex was definitely my favorite. I have a soft spot for the noble warrior type. I don't think Canderous/Mandalore ever left my party in the KotOR games, even if my character was a Light Sider.

Last time I was a Paragon, but maybe this time I will play a Renegade, but I admit, it is hard for me to choose the "bad" options in dialogue and such.
Really I thought Mass Effect would've helped out people like you, as the Renegade choices are also absolutely hilarious. "It's a big, stupid jellyfish!" And of course, face punching.

I went with making two saved games that I'm going to play through ME 2 with. My paragon Shepard is a male soldier, and my renegade Shepard is a female vanguard. Both are Spacer/War Heroes, I think (I haven't played in a while, 360's sent to Microsoft), and both killed Kaiden.


#94

Bowielee

Bowielee

While I was thinking about ME2 yesterday, I realized I no longer have my old save game on the PC version. That means I will be unable to really "continue" my old Shepard, which made me kind of sad.

I was thinking of playing through again with a new Shepard. Last time I was a Paragon, but maybe this time I will play a Renegade, but I admit, it is hard for me to choose the "bad" options in dialogue and such. I might just play a Paragon again but switch up my partners, last time I used pretty much Garrus and Ashley, with some Liara mixed in, maybe I should take Tali and Wrex for more of a spin this time around, or even Kaiden, who in my last play pretty much stood around my ship till I killed him off to make sweet love to Ashley. :peace:

In the end, I am just glad Garrus is back as a recruitable in ME2. He was my favorite companion. Wrex seems to win most of the popularity with fans, but I always liked Garrus because he seemed like a guy trying to do the right thing any way he could, a bit cold sometimes, a bit honest others. Him and Tali were actually my favorite characters overall, even though I never took Tali fighting with me, depending on how I like the new characters I might make them my fighting duo in ME2.
Of the few times I've run through the game, Garrus was the only one that I always had on my team.


#95

Calleja

Calleja

Oh man, I'm so fucking psyched.


#96

Calleja

Calleja

Holy shit, people... The Infiltrator class:

Now gets CLOAKING!


#97

LordRendar

LordRendar

Am doing a deep run on Mass Effect as an Infiltrator.Love the game,but the small loading sequences when moving around stations (Citadel,Ferrous,etc)still piss me off.


#98

Frank

Frankie Williamson

GOD DAMN I WANNA PLAY THIS FUGGING GAME. Happy birthday to me!


#99

Bowielee

Bowielee

Wow, that stealth seems awful OP. It won't stop me from using it, though.


#100

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Wow, that stealth seems awful OP. It won't stop me from using it, though.
It is actually the sole reason I have decided when I replay the game, I am going to be an infiltrator, so that when I go into ME2 I can take that role and have that kickass ability. Last time I was a soldier.


#101

Baerdog

Baerdog

I think you'll have an option to change your class even if you import a file from ME1, so it shouldn't matter.


#102

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

I think you'll have an option to change your class even if you import a file from ME1, so it shouldn't matter.
It is more for consistency. Since I lost my old save I am going to make a new one of a new Shepard, so I can lead it into ME2.

Actually, that makes me wonder, how are they going to handle the small, little choices in ME2 for those that never played the first one or lost the save? For instance...

Ashley or Kaiden will appear in ME2 based on who you saved and who you sacrificed in ME1

You can have a possible romance with Ashley as a male, and Kaiden as a female, or Liara as either gender. How is the game going to know who you "boinked" if it has no previous save and play off that when they appear?

How is the game going to know if you did a side quest for the character? Wrex appearing in his armor, finding the data on the Geth for Tali, etc... and play off those in ME2?

Also, and this is just an observation.

Why can't we get a human woman that is neither a supposed anti-alien xenophobe or a crazy bitch? Ashley was awfully xenophobic, and considering Miranda is part of Cerebrus, she is probably not going to be super supportive of alien races considering their whole mantra is human superiority, and Zero, well... she speaks for herself.


#103

Baerdog

Baerdog

I think they'll ask you questions at the beginning, kinda like in KOTOR2


#104



Overflight

Wait... what is that exactly?

Zombie Shepard? Reaper implanted Shepard? Evil twin/clone Shepard? Shepard when you choose the Renegade path? Shepard with really bad acne?
None of the above. In case you REALLY want to know (spoilering it despite hearing it happens in the first few minutes of the game):

Shepard actually dies in the beginning of the game. Cerberus brings him back to life via some weird multi-million credits secret project. So I guess it's Zombie Cyborg Shepard.

Shegokigo said:
If Tali isn't back in ME2, I think I know who's partnering with Liara and me.
It's Liara that's not coming back. Tali however, is.


#105

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

I actually started my new playthrough of ME1, but I am having issues getting going again on it. I guess I just am having problems deciding how I want to play, since I already played a Paragon, but I have a huge amount of issues forcing myself to play a Renegade. It's just not in my bones. Makes the play unsatisfying. Plus, it's somewhat more laggy then I remember.

I think in the end I will just recreate my old guy in ME2, I was already a Soldier (Commando) so I can easily make him become either a Soldier again or an Infiltrator. I just hope it has something like KOTOR2 that allows me to set many of the little things, like Ashley being alive and how the two had a "relationship". I don't want those little plot points glazed over.


#106



Zumbo Prime

Well, I'm glad
Liara won't be back. I don't like her much.


#107

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

That really belonged with a [ spoiler ] tag Zumbo..... :devil:


#108



Overflight

That really belonged with a [ spoiler ] tag Zumbo..... :devil:
She'll be back as an NPC, though. And you can continue your romance with her, if you had it.

I guess the "pure biotic" party member role will be fulfilled by Subject Zero (the pissed off tattoo chick)


#109

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

I guess the "pure biotic" party member role will be fulfilled by Subject Zero (the pissed off tattoo chick)
Actually... I am pretty sure the pure biotic chick is going to be the new Asari woman, Samara. She pretty much used nothing but her biotic powers to brutalize people in her reveal video. Subject Zero seems more like a Vanguard to me, someone with great biotics but also good with weapons and firearms, which her reveal video showed her using a lot with great proficiency just as much as her biotics.


#110



Overflight

I guess the "pure biotic" party member role will be fulfilled by Subject Zero (the pissed off tattoo chick)
Actually... I am pretty sure the pure biotic chick is going to be the new Asari woman, Samara. She pretty much used nothing but her biotic powers to brutalize people in her reveal video. Subject Zero seems more like a Vanguard to me, someone with great biotics but also good with weapons and firearms, which her reveal video showed her using a lot with great proficiency just as much as her biotics.
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Maybe...I just thought it would make more sense from a story perspective for the opposite to be true: Subject Zero is apparently the result of a biotics experiment while Samara is part of some sort of Asari law enforcement.


#111

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Maybe...I just thought it would make more sense from a story perspective for the opposite to be true: Subject Zero is apparently the result of a biotics experiment while Samara is part of some sort of Asari law enforcement.
She is a Justicar, which basically means some wandering Asari biotic warrior. I am going mostly off the fact we never see her use weapons and instead is entirely biotics, while Subject Zero is all about gunning things down and using biotics. This is all assumption based on the trailers for each character, though it could be that Samara is a "special" class much like Wrex from ME1 and Subject Zero is the "Adept". Actually that probably makes more sense since Jacob IS a Vanguard, so I don't see Bioware having two Vanguard henchmen.


#112



chakz

Man Wrex was awesome.

I wonder what racists I get to kill THIS time! Can't wait!
Kill a racist...oorrr BE a racist...

---------- Post added at 02:32 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:26 AM ----------

The tattoo'd character they just announced seems kinda stupid to me, at least in the context she was presented (herp derp I'm a bad girl who swears and wants to bone, I'm a unique snowflake!).
This. That was a stale sterotype in the 90's and it's almost 2010. They could have done a little better.[/QUOTE]

Personally if the option comes up I plan on reupholstering the ship with her brains.


#113

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Okay, if you don't want any spoilers, don't hit the link below. They are leaked video of the male shepard sex scenes.

http://empirestategamer.com/news/console/mass-effect-2-major-sex-scenes-unlocked

Tali!? They made Tali into one of the sex scene options!? I don't know how I feel right now. One on hand she was always my favorite of the female characters, and I totally would have chosen her over Ash and Liara in the first game. But on the other hand, I think she deserves more then... that...


#114

Terrik

Terrik

Well I won't be around for a while:






Excuse me while I go let my brain explode in awesomeness.

:D


#115

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Well I won't be around for a while:






Excuse me while I go let my brain explode in awesomeness.



:D
I will murder you and assume your identity. Your game shall be my game.

I'm taking that damn pikachu too.


#116

Terrik

Terrik

I'm barely into the game and my mind is already blown.


#117



chakz

Okay, if you don't want any spoilers, don't hit the link below. They are leaked video of the male shepard sex scenes.

http://empirestategamer.com/news/console/mass-effect-2-major-sex-scenes-unlocked

Tali!? They made Tali into one of the sex scene options!? I don't know how I feel right now. One on hand she was always my favorite of the female characters, and I totally would have chosen her over Ash and Liara in the first game. But on the other hand, I think she deserves more then... that...
I'm watching this just because I Want to know how it works. I mean she's in that containment suit and...well...What does she even look like under there?


#118

bhamv3

bhamv3

Wait a minute, how did you get your hands on it already, Terrik? Did it get released early in China or did a retailer jump the gun?

Terrik? Can you hear me?

Dammit, he's too deep in the game...


#119

Terrik

Terrik

hehe...my local Chinese gameshop owner ot his copies this morning. How sweet it is. I'll go back to playing now. It kicks a lot of ass. A lot of things changed from the first game to the second, but it works for me.


#120

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Without spoilers, I just want some confirmation if FemShep is going to be able to pursue any relationships other than males and/or Liara.


#121

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Without spoilers, I just want some confirmation if FemShep is going to be able to pursue any relationships other than males and/or Liara.
Yes, even without knowing, I'm fairly certain.


#122

Calleja

Calleja

TOMORRRROOOOOOOOOOOOW


#123

Baerdog

Baerdog

Amazon sent me the e-mail earlier today.

Mass Effect 2 is on the way to my house right noooow!

Edit: It's at a distribution center in Tulsa right now!


#124

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

So any confirmations?


#125

Gusto

Gusto

Pre-installing on Steam now. :)


#126

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Can't seem to get a single real answer on this anywhere. You figured they were would a confirmed word on it or not. (Debating how to set-up my ME1 character for ME2 because of this.)


#127

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Without spoilers, I just want some confirmation if FemShep is going to be able to pursue any relationships other than males and/or Liara.
I don't have a 100% answer, but I am going to say "Yes" because Bioware often balances that type of thing out. It would be a step back from ME1 and Dragon Age if they didn't have at least one alternative lifestyle option.


#128

Gusto

Gusto

This seems to have the answers: http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Romance But bear in mind it IS a wiki. Seems fairly legit.

ETA:

I might have to replay as a dude so's that I can nail Tali. :)


#129

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Wait,
I CANT GET WITH MY LADY TALI!?

Seriously, that's a major downer and why the hell is
Kelly an option but not Miranda or Subject Zero?

Ugh. I'm guessing if you had a relationship with
Ashley or Liara, since they're not main characters anymore, you won't get to woo them some more?


#130

Gusto

Gusto

Ugh. I'm guessing if you had a relationship with
Ashley or Liara, since they're not main characters anymore, you won't get to woo them some more?
The way I read it was if you had a relationship with a previous character, you can choose to continue it but won't get any additional big romance or sex scenes. They won't join your team either.

I think I'm gonna play my all-female-all-pistols Shephard's Angels team again, and NOT cheat on Liara. The concept of an in-game long-distance relationship seems pretty innovative to me, and I'd like to see it through.

I will bang EVERYBODY in future playthroughs. ;)

It's also kinda odd that we still don't see any male-on-male relationships, but at least the girl-on-girl relationship this time around isn't handwaved as an asexual thing. Is this progress? I don't know!


#131

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Well I'll agree that the fem/fem but no man/man relationship is bullshit. Will my Renegade FemShep stay faithful to Liara? I dunno, depends on how interesting the Kelly character is. Though she's not half as "visually interesting" as the other three female choice that MaleShep gets. Oh well.


#132

Gusto

Gusto

Fair enough, and I agree, of all the options on that page,
Tali is still my number one choice. :)


#133

Bowielee

Bowielee

Feh, why do they allow lesbian love interests, but not gay male love interests. Douchebags.


#134

Jay

Jay

Do we ever get to see Tali's face?


#135

Gusto

Gusto

Only if we get to see the Flotilla. :)

There were so many things in ME that were mentioned but never really elaborated on, and I hope that they get a little more time in ME2. I am avoiding spoilers beyond relationship prospects, much as I did for ME.


#136

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Tali's finally legal.


Awww yeah.


#137

bhamv3

bhamv3

Seriously, Tali had the best body out of all the ME1 characters.


#138

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Seriously, Tali had the best body out of all the ME1 characters.
Disagree by a long shot. Though she was much more interesting a character. I would have put them Ashley > Liara > Tali (body-wise) Tali > Liara > Ashley (Personality/Likeability)


#139

bhamv3

bhamv3

Funnily enough, I would rank the bodies exactly opposite of how you have them. Tali usually wears a skin-tight environmental suit, which shows off her body nicely. Ashley, on the other hand, is dressed in those baggy military outfits that hide any curves she might have. Sure, she takes them off for the nookie scene, but that's just one glimpse.

As for likability, I thought all three were all right. None of them particularly annoyed me, none of them particularly made me pant. Good characters overall though.


#140

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

You must not have played through with Ashely as a main character then (personality wise) and bodywise I say because Tali was a "give the bish a sammich" body-type.


#141

bhamv3

bhamv3

Fair enough. We shall agree to disagree. :)


#142

Jay

Jay

Exotic Tali... or that hot Cerebus chick or that... WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!


#143

Terrik

Terrik

*that* is total badass-ness


#144



Overflight

No, *that* looks like an annoying 90's anti hero archetype.

Seriously, just look at her trailer:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/subject-zero-mass-effect/60687

"[Shepard's] Deliberate...and patient...it PISSES ME OFF!" Ugh.


#145

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Sorry, I don't see what you see Psyclone, I enjoyed the hell out of it. (No surprise I'm sure)


#146

Gusto

Gusto

It seems to me that having intercourse with someone named Patient Zero would have dire consequences.


#147

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

It seems to me that having intercourse with someone named Patient Zero would be the best sex of your life.
Couldn't agree more. Too bad she's not a FemShep choice. :devil:


#148

Gusto

Gusto

~10 minutes til game time!

*goes to make a pot of coffee*


#149

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Just got back from picking up my CE with predorder bonus (which I'm wholly against) and am installing now. GLEE.


#150



Iaculus

I must say, that bit in the leaked video where the makeup went runny was kind of clever. Don't think I've ever seen that in a game before.


#151

Gusto

Gusto

Even before the first cutscene was over, I was in love with this game.

:D


#152

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Hey Gusto, did it take forever to log into your EA account? I've been staring at the "PLEASE WAIT" for like 5 minutes now.

It's probably being hammered.


#153

Gusto

Gusto

It went pretty quick for me, I already had an EA account after digitally downloading some Sims expansions, but yeah they're likely pretty swamped over there.


#154

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Yeah, it seems I'm right in line with countless other people stuck at "PLEASE WAIT".

Once again, DRM fucks over the customers willing to ACTUALLY PAY FOR YOUR FUCKING GAME.


#155

Gusto

Gusto

Once again, DRM fucks over the customers willing to ACTUALLY PAY FOR YOUR FUCKING GAME.
Or rather, those who couldn't play 20 minutes after release. :D


#156

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Have you ever seen the experiment where they put a nut in a bottle and then the monkey reaches in and grabs the nut? His hand grasping the nut is now too large to pull out of the bottle and he struggles to pull it out.

Right now some scientist is watching me as I try to get my closed hand out of the bottle.


#157

Jay

Jay

Someone keep the razor blades away from Frankie. Colisse.


#158

Frank

Frankie Williamson

But it feels better when it bleeds.


#159

fade

fade

No, *that* looks like an annoying 90's anti hero archetype.

Seriously, just look at her trailer:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/subject-zero-mass-effect/60687

\"[Shepard's] Deliberate...and patient...it PISSES ME OFF!\" Ugh.
You know, I thought the same thing...those trailers are annoying. Terrible, overdramatic voice acting. Reminds me of Claire Bennet in Heroes.


#160

Dei

Dei

I didn't have any problems with my account stuff at all, just went to social.bioware.com and did all the stuff there. Of course, I've been out of the house most of the day and my disc drive is not working on my brand new computer for fuck knows what reason so I can't play anyways. :(


#161

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Yeah, the Bioware forums says, "SOME PEOPLE are having issues".

Why am I always in that some people group. Eff you Jay.


#162



Overflight

For those of you who can't play the game FEAR NOT because you can watch someone playing the FIRST HOUR of the game LIVE on Gametrailers AND leave comments!

http://www.gametrailers.com/hour-one/mass-effect-2/

...yeah, I think this is retarded as well.


#163

Jay

Jay

Yeah, the Bioware forums says, "SOME PEOPLE are having issues".

Why am I always in that some people group. Eff you Jay.
I LOLed


#164

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

For those of you who can't play the game FEAR NOT because you can watch someone playing the FIRST HOUR of the game LIVE on Gametrailers AND leave comments!

http://www.gametrailers.com/hour-one/mass-effect-2/

...yeah, I think this is retarded as well.
I don't know. Ability to leave comments? That's a deal-sealer.


#165

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Well, everything's up and running now. And I'm off to work. Will I slip away from work when I should be looking for speeders on the highway to come home and play Mass Effect 2? Likely.


#166

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

They don't track your patrol cars with GPS?


#167

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Very much so. However, no one watches us up here. Ever. So little in fact we caught another member lying about his location using the GPS. He was at some mistress of his' house. He'd been visiting her instead of doing what he'd been radioing in for months and no one had noticed. Even then it was only a couple of us constables that did notice.

And it's not like I'd actually do that. I just want to.


#168

Jay

Jay

Officer Tears is on duty to collect... tears.


#169



Alucard

Can you have more variations in hair style? Thats the only thing that slightly bugged me in MEI.


#170

Gusto

Gusto

The NPCs seem to have different hairstyles but I opted to not edit my femShep.

I DID notice tat her haircut looks a little more natural and better now.


#171

Calleja

Calleja

I gave my Shepard better eyebrows, but I didn't notice any real changes on the character creation. Again, I imported, so maybe it's that.


I came in here (and stopped playing, even!) just to bitch about:
them closing off the "Presidium" to only be the councilor's office (whoever you chose in ME1, I'd guess). I was looking forward to re-visiting my old Citadel friends, gorram it!!

The guy complaining about his refund TWO YEARS LATER cracked me up something fierce, though. Oh god. The laughing.


#172

Calleja

Calleja

Alright, I played for 10 straight hours and decided to take a break for the sake of my eyes. And my sanity.

I freaking LOVE this game, although I'm a bit mad at Bioware for making the font hard-as-fuck to read in an older SD TV, which is a place where Mass Effect excelled. Oh well. I also miss the "infinite ammo, but watch the heat" system over the "infinite ammo but you need thermal clips...to..uh.. fire. So collect those cause you run out pretty fast. But infinite ammo!" one.


#173



WolfOfOdin

Mass Effect 2 first impressions:

1. The Vorcha are ANNOYING AS FUCK

2. Zaeed is hilarious, as is Mordin. If Grunt wasn't such an awesome meat shield, both would have a permanent place on my squad.

3. Jack/Subject 0 is...interesting. Have to see if she develops more beyond 'rawr dark angry chick'

4. Every scene with The Illusive Man is pure gold.


#174

bhamv3

bhamv3

Just played the first hour or so of it. I was right about Martin Sheen's voice being too distinctive and immersion-breaking. (I kept expecting people to call him President Bartlett) Also, I miss the ability to call up the journal with one key, instead of having to go through the ESC menu. And what's with the mini-map being only available when you hold down a key?

Other than these tiny nitpicks though, I'm loving it so far. It's like ME1, but better.

Also...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, MY NORMANDY!!!!


#175



DougTheHead

Quick question I couldn't find anywhere else: you can replay the first Mass Effect multiple times with the same character, but make different decisions each time. If I have a character that I played through with twice, making different decisions in each playthrough (and not doing any of the sidequests the second time around), which playthrough will the game end up loading?


#176

Math242

Math242

i think you can choose both


#177

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

WolfOfOdin said:
3. Jack/Subject 0 is...interesting. Have to see if she develops more beyond 'rawr dark angry chick'
There is a bit to her actually. I'd advise doing her sidequest if you want to see her develop more.

She's also the only character who has two sex-scenes. One is tied to Renegade actions and is easy to get. The Paragon one takes more time and I think you have to turn her down on the Renegade scene. One of the scenes is what you'd expect... one isn't.

Also...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, MY NORMANDY!!!!
It gets better.


#178

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

I was reading up on it and learned that, mostly, my choices in the game will be written out if I start a new character. Looks like I will have to play the first one again like I planned, that or find out some way to edit a game save. I really was hoping they would just let you choose what choices in the first game you took

Edit: Actually, I might have been saved here, thanks to Penny-Arcade posting it.

http://www.annakie.com/me/mpsa.htm


#179



Mr. Lawface

http://www.annakie.com/me/home.htm this is a site where people are posting their ME1 saves for others to download and use.


#180

Baerdog

Baerdog

I was reading up on it and learned that, mostly, my choices in the game will be written out if I start a new character. Looks like I will have to play the first one again like I planned, that or find out some way to edit a game save. I really was hoping they would just let you choose what choices in the first game you took
I was a little disappointed that the canon ending for ME1 seems to be
Renegade ending, Udina on the council, and Ashley surviving.
However, the game is definitely awesome.


#181

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

http://www.annakie.com/me/home.htm this is a site where people are posting their ME1 saves for others to download and use.
Edited my post with that while you were posting the reply, haha.


#182

Frank

Frankie Williamson

So, after work I played for about 6 hours now.

Lurves it. Them making it a much, much better shooter was a good idea. I also like that there is different hacking minigames. I even currently like how planet scanning is done. I'm pleased as punch as well that Simon Templeman once again returns as the voice of Zaeed (and likely more as I progress through the game).


#183

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I was reading up on it and learned that, mostly, my choices in the game will be written out if I start a new character. Looks like I will have to play the first one again like I planned, that or find out some way to edit a game save. I really was hoping they would just let you choose what choices in the first game you took
I was a little disappointed that the canon ending for ME1 seems to be
Renegade ending, Udina on the council, and Ashley surviving.
However, the game is definitely awesome.[/QUOTE]

You forgot to add...

Wrex is killed by Shepard.


#184

Bowielee

Bowielee

I'm removing this from my subscribed threads. I just know someone's going to come blundering through without spoiler tags and I'll regret it.


#185

Baerdog

Baerdog

I was reading up on it and learned that, mostly, my choices in the game will be written out if I start a new character. Looks like I will have to play the first one again like I planned, that or find out some way to edit a game save. I really was hoping they would just let you choose what choices in the first game you took
I was a little disappointed that the canon ending for ME1 seems to be
Renegade ending, Udina on the council, and Ashley surviving.
However, the game is definitely awesome.[/QUOTE]

You forgot to add...

Wrex is killed by Shepard.
[/QUOTE]
Oh damn, you're right. That seals it, I'm gonna have to grab one of those save game thingies and restart. Luckily I'm not very far in.


#186

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

I think I found a winner.
Name: Aidan Shepard.
Background: Spacer/War Hero.
Class: Soldier
Level: 60
Completed all the UNC explore, mining, gather quests.
Completed all side-missions except 1 renegade quest you can only get with 50% renegade status.
100% Paragon, all options thru my game were Paragon chosen

Completed Bring Down the Sky, let the terrorist go and free'd the hostages.

Saved Ashley, Kaiden died.
Romanced Ashley.
Wrex is alive.
Saved the Council.
Saved the Rachni Queen.
Treated Conrad Verner nicely (Paragon choices).
Completed UNC: Asari Diplomacy.
Choose to allow the Alliance to conduct experiments on Nirali Bhatia's body, and made the husband understand this via Paragon.
Completed the Feros Zhu's Hope water/food/battery missions, and nobody was killed.

Encouraged Garrus to be more Paragon.
Picked Anderson for the seat on the council.
All party members were with my Shepard

All my choices in the first game set for set, only difference is I chose to be a Spacer/Sole Survivor, so I will have to just deal with that little change.


#187

Baerdog

Baerdog

I think I found a winner.

Saved Ashley, Kaiden died.
Wrong!

This is the one I'm looking at.
Name: John Shepard (John #3) Background: Spacer, War Hero
Level: 50
Class: Soldier
Alignment: Full Paragon (maxed out paragon bar, very little in renegade. Chose all paragon dialog choices.)
Completionist run. All Missions and Assignments completed, Completionist achievement earned. Most achievements unlocked, except for Ally achievements, and most Talent achievements. Also no achievements relating to 2nd playthrough or any related to difficulty above Hard.

Bring Down the Sky: Yes
Pinnacle Station: No

Saved Kaidan
Romanced Ashley and Liara, completed Virmire 3rd before completing Feros so I never got the "confrontation" scene after the 3rd mission. Continued to romance Liara all the way through to the end.
Did Wrex's Armor mission, he is alive.
Saved the Council
Saved the Rachni Queen.
Treated Conrad with Paragon response and sent him on his way home :).
Completed the UNC: Asari Diplomacy sidequest and chose the Paragon response at the end.
Returned Nirali's body to her husband (Had Ashley in the group to talk with him if it makes any difference.)
Completed all of the Feros sidequests. All 16 colonists alive.

Paragon-like Garrus. Chose paragon response at Dr. Saelon
Chose Anderson for Council
Acquired all party members.


#188

Chippy

Chippy

holyshitholyshitholyshitholyshitholyshitholyshitholyshitholyshitholyshitholyshitholyshitholyshitholyshitholyshitholyshitholyshitholyshit

I've been playing this. A lot.


#189

bhamv3

bhamv3

It gets better.
Yeah, I got to that point. I actually regret having that moment spoiled early for me via Wikipedia etc, I can tell it would've been a really "YAY!" moment otherwise.

No more spoilers for me!


#190

General Specific

General Specific

Bought it last night after work, started playing it and holy crap, it is beautiful. I can't wait to play some more tonight.


#191

Baerdog

Baerdog

Does anyone who pre-ordered off of Amazon know where to get the code for the inferno armor? I was going through the codes that came with the game and realized that was the only one that wasn't included.


#192



WolfOfOdin

Does anyone who pre-ordered off of Amazon know where to get the code for the inferno armor? I was going through the codes that came with the game and realized that was the only one that wasn't included.
Check your email, should be in the address used to pre-order


#193

Calleja

Calleja

Does anyone know if we'll get new Casual Appearance outfits for shephard or are those offered at the beginning it? I like the idea of having a "rouge-ish" costume, but making him look like Kahn ruins any serious cutscenes, heh.


#194

General Specific

General Specific

Does anyone know if we'll get new Casual Appearance outfits for shephard or are those offered at the beginning it? I like the idea of having a "rouge-ish" costume, but making him look like Kahn ruins any serious cutscenes, heh.
I'm totally making a guy named Khan Shepard now


#195

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I'd love to see some screen caps of forumites new ME2 Shepards.


#196

Baerdog

Baerdog

Does anyone who pre-ordered off of Amazon know where to get the code for the inferno armor? I was going through the codes that came with the game and realized that was the only one that wasn't included.
Check your email, should be in the address used to pre-order[/QUOTE]
Nope, I haven't received it there yet.


#197

LordRendar

LordRendar

Phew...Just Finished the game.Dont read spoiler box if you havent finished it yet!!!
So,sadly during suicide mission, 3 People died. The first Specialist (The one going through the ducts) and the Leader for the other team that you pick while the Biotic gets you through the swarm. Both were loyal to me.Lastly Miranda bit the dust during the Last Stand,though she wasnt Loyal (and the only one who wasn't in my crew) due to the bitchfight she had with Jack. Did anyone get other results by having fewer/all loyalties?


#198

Jay

Jay

Finished the game? Jesus christ. Savor it.


#199

Gusto

Gusto

All I've done in the game is
add the Salarian to my group and visit Anderson on the Citadel, with a handful of minor quests in between.


#200

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I've been watching a run through on Game Anyone. Seeing this REALLY makes me want to get some decent parts for my PC so I can run the original game.


#201

Calleja

Calleja

All I've done in the game is
add the Salarian to my group and visit Anderson on the Citadel, with a handful of minor quests in between.
And were you as pissed off as me when they turned the ENTIRE presidium into Anderson's office, period? :(


#202



chakz

Feh, why do they allow lesbian love interests, but not gay male love interests. Douchebags.
Because they're lazy.


#203

Gusto

Gusto

All I've done in the game is
add the Salarian to my group and visit Anderson on the Citadel, with a handful of minor quests in between.
And were you as pissed off as me when they turned the ENTIRE presidium into Anderson's office, period? :(
[/QUOTE]

Yeah kinda. I wanted to see what Sha'ira was up to. :(


#204

Bowielee

Bowielee

Well, I broke down and bought this. Of course it helps that I'm going to be getting a fat tax rebate check. Currently at 25% downloaded on steam. My only regret is that I didn't finish my last playthrough with my female biotic Shepard before this came out. I'll just make due with my male infiltrator Shepard.


#205

Baerdog

Baerdog

Nah, just go here and pick out a save file you like. It's been linked in the thread before, but it deserves linking again.

http://www.annakie.com/me/


#206

LordRendar

LordRendar

Finished the game? Jesus christ. Savor it.
Savor? I dominate them! I chew en up and swallow em like a cold cheeseburger after a long night of Partying.
Am on my second run-through now. I absolutely love this game.On the third try I am probably gonna do a Female Shepard.


#207



coolbeans

Finished the game? Jesus christ. Savor it.
Savor? I dominate them! I chew en up and swallow em like a cold cheeseburger after a long night of Partying.
Am on my second run-through now. I absolutely love this game.On the third try I am probably gonna do a Female Shepard.[/QUOTE]


I'd do a female shephard

he he he


#208

LordRendar

LordRendar

Finished the game? Jesus christ. Savor it.
Savor? I dominate them! I chew en up and swallow em like a cold cheeseburger after a long night of Partying.
Am on my second run-through now. I absolutely love this game.On the third try I am probably gonna do a Female Shepard.[/QUOTE]


I'd do a female shephard

he he he[/QUOTE]

Damn,walked right into that one. You are sly...


#209

Gusto

Gusto

I actually don't like Female Shephard's voice actor.


#210

Holy Knickers

Holy Knickers

Any 360 ME2 people having issues with the DLC and/or snagging your prev. saved info?


#211

Bowielee

Bowielee

PC question, is there an option to go to the Xbox 360 control scheme? If not, I'll probably be remapping my keys.


#212

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I actually don't like Female Shephard's voice actor.
Really?

Jennifer Hale?

She's like, one of the most prolific voice actors ever and a Bioware mainstay (Bastilla erc.)


#213

Dei

Dei

Really not surprised someone has beaten it already, the game feels really short to me. If I had been able to play it on Tuesday I would probably have beaten it by now too.

Also Female Sheperd's voice >>> male Sheperd.


#214

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Man, I wish you could carry more than 30 probes. 30 probes is MAYBE 2 planets worth of materials. Back and forth, back and forth.


#215

Baerdog

Baerdog

Really? I can go through 20-25 probes easy on a planet getting it all the way to "Depleted" status. Weird thing is that it seems to take more probes to deplete a "moderate" planet than it does a "rich" one.


#216

General Specific

General Specific

I had one planet that started out Rich, went to Good after a few probes and then went from Good to Depleted in one probe.


#217

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Really? I can go through 20-25 probes easy on a planet getting it all the way to "Depleted" status. Weird thing is that it seems to take more probes to deplete a "moderate" planet than it does a "rich" one.
I also generally only grab mineral deposits of 4 or more on the scale.


#218

Baerdog

Baerdog

Ah, okay. I tend to pillage a planet for all it's worth.


#219

bhamv3

bhamv3

You can upgrade the number of probes you can carry. I forget who unlocks the upgrade now. Go around asking your team members about upgrades on the Normandy.

By the way, I just experienced a moment, the golden shining moment that defined just how great this game is:
I got to punch the reporter again! Yay! :):):)


#220

General Specific

General Specific

You can upgrade the number of probes you can carry. I forget who unlocks the upgrade now. Go around asking your team members about upgrades on the Normandy.

By the way, I just experienced a moment, the golden shining moment that defined just how great this game is:
I got to punch the reporter again! Yay! :):):)
Yup, I did that too. Except it seems I didn't do it the first time, so it was more satisfying now. :D


#221



WolfOfOdin

Two things:

Mordin is now my absolute most favorite character, even beating out Wrex.

The level of shame and horror in his voice on Tuchanka when he sees the experimental victims is moving, along with the fact that he had a breakdown and became religious....which is something we've never, ever seen from a Salarian


And

Zaeed's loyalty mission:

Burn you son of a bitch." He's like HK-47, Crocodile Dundee and Dirty Harry rolled into one sociopathic core of bounty-hunter awesome


#222

Dei

Dei

Well, I have a gigantic surplus of most of my minerals so I tend to only use probes if I see Element Zero now.


#223

Terrik

Terrik

You might as well stock up. A lot of upgrades can cost 15,000-25,000 per upgrade, so you're gonna need a hefty amount.


#224

Dei

Dei

I'm already 2/3s through the game, 15k - 25k is seriously nothing compared to my surplus right now.


#225

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

This thread is seriously devoid of Shepard-shots.


#226

Gusto

Gusto

This thread is seriously devoid of Shepard-shots.
I'll take some next time I play.


#227

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Someone direct me to the screenshot folder.


#228

Gusto

Gusto

Documents > Bioware > Mass Effect 2 > Screenshots

Apparently F11 is an unlisted screencap binding. Or so support forums have indicated.

Will test this later.


#229

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

F11 was the screenshot key in ME1.


#230

Gusto

Gusto

I never took SSs. *shrug*


#231

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Well I've been playing through ME1 a couple of different ways and my GF decided she wanted to take the reins of the character creator and make a virtual version of RL me. She made me sit still as she recreated every contour of my face. She got an eerily similar doppleganger of me out of it (different hair)





I told her it felt really strange to be staring practically AT myself as I was playing so I returned the favor and had her sit for me:




Finally some shots of the character I'll be playing in ME2. Shegokigo Shepard:




ME1 Spoiler (sortof)


#232

Gusto

Gusto

So much disdain, nice. :)


#233

Calleja

Calleja

Krogan like fish, huh? *dies of laughter*


#234

bhamv3

bhamv3

I just did Tali's side quest. It was like being back in Ferelden. :D


#235

Terrik

Terrik

I just finished the game as Renegade/Infiltrator.

Kick. Ass.

Im going to start my Paragon run asasp.


#236

Bowielee

Bowielee

Please tell me that the people who already played through played it non-stop. I'll be pissed if I finish it this weekend already.


#237

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I've been playing a couple of hours a day and I don't think I'm anywhere close. I think a lot of people in this thread are poop-socking it.

Hmm, F11 isn't doing it for me. I'll have to check my keybindings.

And thirdly, I've seen a lot of complaints about this game on the official forum. Lots of people are actually telling Bioware they preferred the combat in the first. That is madness. It's not even a matter of taste, they made a competent shooter this time.


#238

Bowielee

Bowielee

The only thing I preferred about the combat in the first was the lack of ammunition. Especially being a sniper.


#239



Iaculus

OK, just one small question about this game, in need of nothing more than a simple yes/no answer (spoilered, if necessary):

Do we learn more about the Reapers and/or their motivations?


#240

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

OK, just one small question about this game, in need of nothing more than a simple yes/no answer (spoilered, if necessary):

Do we learn more about the Reapers and/or their motivations?
No really, but you do learn a lot more about the Geth, Krogan, and Qurians.

(This section has to deal with the ending. Don't read it if you don't want it spoiled.)
Does anyone know if there are any variables to determine who dies during the ending? It seems the first 3 people to die may be random, but I'm trying to figure out if there are any factors to it. Chime in if it happened differently for you. I'm thinking it may be tied to these factors:

Least Loyal: Jack died first in the playthrough I watched, and the guy playing broke up with her for Tali near the end. She wouldn't even talk to Shepard after that.

Least Amount of Story Revealed: Legion died next. The player did his sidequest, but barely talked to him on the Normandy because of how late he got him.

Least Used: Thane died last. He was only used during his sidequest and one other time than that.

I'm also wondering about the other times you split up the team... during the playthrough I watched, the person sent into the ventilation ducts died (Garrus) but the Biotic-Field maker (Samara) and person sent back with the Crew (Tali) did not. Did this happen differently for anyone else?


#241

Dei

Dei

Please tell me that the people who already played through played it non-stop. I'll be pissed if I finish it this weekend already.
I've been playing way too much, I'm probably about 2/3s or more through the main plot but I'm still flying around exploring stuff so while I probably could be done tonight if I so chose, I'm not going to be.


#242

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

The play I watched was about 16 hours in length. However, the guy playing didn't do any planetary exploration aside from planets tied directly to the story, didn't buy any star charts, nor did he go out and do any probing. He didn't have any of the DLC ether. That's probably at least another 5-10 hours of content alone... so the whole game should clock in at around 20-25 hours in length, if you do everything in one play through. Double that if you want to go through as the alignment you didn't pursue.


#243

Frank

Frankie Williamson

F11 is not taking screenshots for me and I don't know how to map it. Maybe in the ini. I'll check.

Also, maybe this has been posted already in spoilers, which I haven't been reading, but man, new favorite moment in the game by far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXiU6kiq_Ms

What the? Youtube videos no longer show up in spoiler tags? WHAT HAVE THEY DONE!?


#244

General Specific

General Specific

The only thing I preferred about the combat in the first was the lack of ammunition. Especially being a sniper.
This. The whole "charges to mitigate overheating" thing is a bit lame when we had unlimited ammo in the previous game and just had to wait for the gun to cool down like it would in real life.

I love the Automatic sniper rifle I got. It's great to be able to pump a lot of rounds into a target that has barriers up from long range. Though the stopping power trade off kinda sucks. So, if I want stuff killed from a distance quickly, I bring Thane along with me. :)


#245

bhamv3

bhamv3

Just finished the game. Spoilers first, including a reply to AshburnerX. If you haven't completed the game, I strongly recommend you avoid spoilers, the game is definitely better without being spoiled.

Oh, and before we get to the spoilers, I would say the answer to Iaculus's question would be "yes, a bit."

My order of dying at the end was this: Legion was sent into the pipe, but he survived that part without any problems. I managed to open all the valves with plenty of time left, I don't know if that had anything to do with it. However, Legion was headshotted trying to close the doors, and was the first to die.

Jacob was my biotic during the shield section, he survived. However, Grunt (one of my squad mates) got killed at the end. You know how pissed that made me? The one single purest krogan in the galaxy, gone.

Everyone else survived, only two people died. I assigned Zaeed to lead the first fire team, Garrus to lead the second one. My own squad was Miranda and Grunt, except after Grunt got killed, I replaced him with Tali. I did everyone's loyalty quests, though if I had to estimate I would say Legion is probably the one I talked to least. Not sure where Grunt falls on the scale.

The revelation of the human-Reaper was definitely a nice WTF moment. Appropriate, too. The Reapers we've seen so far are all insectoid, and the Collectors (and by extension, the Protheans) were insect-like. I'm guessing that after the Reapers' cleansing of the galaxy, they base their next iteration on the most dominant and/or worthy species they find during that pass. Also, I thought the tube-shooting fight was the final battle at first. I was all disappointed until a giant Reaper skull reared up and scared the crap out of me.

There were other nice WTF moments in the game. The revelation that the Collectors were once the Protheans caught me by surprise. The Collector attack on the Normandy was tense, I was so used to having a huge stockpile of guns on my back, getting used to running around without them took a bit of time. Mordin singing was also a WTF moment, but in a good way.

There were still some strange unexplained moments in the game though. Ashley survived my imported game, and she was at that colony that was attacked by the Collectors. We watched her get paralyzed, and everyone else was taken, so how did she survive? Also, I don't think the Reapers' fascination with Shepard is fully explained. Do they target him because they see him is a particularly dangerous threat?

Finally, I romanced Miranda during my normal play through. After completing the game, I had the option to continue playing, so I immediately broke up with Miranda and seduced Tali - mainly because I wanted to finally see what she looked like under that mask. Intimate scene comes up, Shepard removes her mask... and the camera immediately cuts away. FUCK THAT!!

All in all, I would say this was an excellent game, 10/10 for me. But as a sequel to Mass Effect, it only gets a 7/10. (Which averages out to 8.5, that's not bad at all!) Let me explain. The gameplay, storyline, graphics etc are all top notch. However, as a sequel, it is inevitably compared to the first game, and it feels like they tried to fix a lot of stuff that wasn't broken. The weapon heat mechanic from the first game was good and different, there was no need to change it, and I would say by changing it to an ammo system they turned the game into every other shooter. Also, there are aspects of the heat sink system that don't make sense: the heat sinks are meant to be universal, so when I run out of heat sinks for my assault rifle, why can't I use some from my shotgun reserves? Are they irretrievably loaded into the shotgun the moment I pick them up? Do I instantly change them into a form that can only be used by shotguns and not assault rifles at the moment of pickup?

Squad members now have much fewer powers available to them, and they're no longer neatly divided into biotics, tech and combat. That leads to lesser attachment to some characters, because they become largely interchangeable - basically just bots with guns, along with a power or two. Compare this to the first game, where I would use Liara because she's obviously the best at biotics, or Tali because she's the best at tech etc. Having clearer specialties made the characters more memorable in the first game, both as gameplay assets and as characters.

The additional weapons and removal of armors also didn't do much for me. Gone is scouring every nook and cranny for gear to use and sell, now we just shoot things while occasionally running into a box of platinum. Apparently in the space of two years, every armor manufacturer in the galaxy went out of business. The new weapons felt somewhat unnecessary - is there really that much of a difference between submachine guns and assault rifles, from a gameplay perspective? Do I really need so many heavy weapons, when half of them have such dramatic drawbacks they're virtually unusable?

These aren't gameplay flaws, of course. If these features existed in another game, I would have no reason to nitpick. But these are gameplay changes, differences from the first game, that are unnecessary and sometimes harmful.

To me, it feels a bit like Mass Effect 2 is a completely different game, with only superficial resemblances to the first game. There's nothing wrong with this, naturally. Half-Life 2 was very different from Half-Life 1. Doom 3 was a huge shift from Doom 2. This didn't stop these games from being good. Similarly, Mass Effect 2 is different in many ways, but it's still a kick-ass game from beginning to end. I just can't help but wish it was closer to the first one.


#246

Bowielee

Bowielee

The only thing I preferred about the combat in the first was the lack of ammunition. Especially being a sniper.
This. The whole "charges to mitigate overheating" thing is a bit lame when we had unlimited ammo in the previous game and just had to wait for the gun to cool down like it would in real life.

I love the Automatic sniper rifle I got. It's great to be able to pump a lot of rounds into a target that has barriers up from long range. Though the stopping power trade off kinda sucks. So, if I want stuff killed from a distance quickly, I bring Thane along with me. :)[/QUOTE]

I'm also not all that jazzed about the dumbing down of the character development. Hell, of the dumbing down of the game in general.


#247

Baerdog

Baerdog

What is the point of no return in this game? In the first one, once you go to Virmire you are pretty much on a roller coaster ride to the climax and are SOL if you wanted to go back to do side quests. I just want to make sure I don't accidentally miss out on a bunch of stuff because I did too many plot missions too soon.


#248

bhamv3

bhamv3

I would say it's when you go pick up the IFF. Things start to happen after that.


#249

Baerdog

Baerdog

Ok, so I'll keep an eye out for the IFF then. Thanks.


#250

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Ok, so I'll keep an eye out for the IFF then. Thanks.
Actually, you seem to have a chance to go back and do stuff after you activate the IFF for the first time. The Point of No Return is before you enter the Omega 4 Relay, though the game seems to make you think you need to hurry. Then again, the amount of time it takes you to get into the Omega 4 Relay might effect some parts of the ending.

My order of dying at the end was this: Legion was sent into the pipe, but he survived that part without any problems. I managed to open all the valves with plenty of time left, I don't know if that had anything to do with it. However, Legion was headshotted trying to close the doors, and was the first to die.

Jacob was my biotic during the shield section, he survived. However, Grunt (one of my squad mates) got killed at the end. You know how pissed that made me? The one single purest krogan in the galaxy, gone.

Everyone else survived, only two people died. I assigned Zaeed to lead the first fire team, Garrus to lead the second one. My own squad was Miranda and Grunt, except after Grunt got killed, I replaced him with Tali. I did everyone's loyalty quests, though if I had to estimate I would say Legion is probably the one I talked to least. Not sure where Grunt falls on the scale.

The revelation of the human-Reaper was definitely a nice WTF moment. Appropriate, too. The Reapers we've seen so far are all insectoid, and the Collectors (and by extension, the Protheans) were insect-like. I'm guessing that after the Reapers' cleansing of the galaxy, they base their next iteration on the most dominant and/or worthy species they find during that pass. Also, I thought the tube-shooting fight was the final battle at first. I was all disappointed until a giant Reaper skull reared up and scared the crap out of me.

There were other nice WTF moments in the game. The revelation that the Collectors were once the Protheans caught me by surprise. The Collector attack on the Normandy was tense, I was so used to having a huge stockpile of guns on my back, getting used to running around without them took a bit of time. Mordin singing was also a WTF moment, but in a good way.

There were still some strange unexplained moments in the game though. Ashley survived my imported game, and she was at that colony that was attacked by the Collectors. We watched her get paralyzed, and everyone else was taken, so how did she survive? Also, I don't think the Reapers' fascination with Shepard is fully explained. Do they target him because they see him is a particularly dangerous threat?

Finally, I romanced Miranda during my normal play through. After completing the game, I had the option to continue playing, so I immediately broke up with Miranda and seduced Tali - mainly because I wanted to finally see what she looked like under that mask. Intimate scene comes up, Shepard removes her mask... and the camera immediately cuts away. FUCK THAT!!
So you didn't lose anyone on the ship before you made it to the station? In the run I watched, the ship suffered heavy damage and 3 people died before they even got to the station. I'm going to guess that the ship upgrades play a part in this, as it seems like the times you lost someone were tied to specific upgrades. I'm just wondering how it determines WHO dies.

So the Pipe person seems to be killed no matter what, or at least as far as we know.

However, once the guy in the pipe died, no one else died in the run I watched. It LOOKED like Grunt was going to die once the Reaper was destroyed, but Shepard managed to save him in the end. This might be tied to something too.


#251

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

You guys are scaring me.

I read the spoilers just because I won't be able to play the game for awhile, but I am the type of person that can't stand having my squad get killed. I refused to play the game if I messed up and killed Wrex, and it took a day for me to accept the fact I had to make Kaiden get killed. I almost told myself "He is going to fly in all safe and sound any minute now... ANY MINUTE NOW!"

The idea of having characters perish no matter what, and RANDOMLY to boot, is going to put me on edge when I actually get a chance to play it. If Tali or Garrus get killed I am going to freak.

Anyways, that won't be for awhile.


#252

Gusto

Gusto

Here are some pics!



Sara Shephard, my Paragon Soldier holdover from ME1.



A different angle to show my customized armor colours. I chose black white and light blue.



You feel lucky? Do ya, punk?


#253

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Gusto, I think I am in love with your Shepard.


#254

Gusto

Gusto

Yeah her milkshake brings all the boys (girls?) to the yard.


#255

Gusto

Gusto

Incidentally, that third SS of my Shephard is now my desktop wallpaper.


#256

General Specific

General Specific

The only thing I preferred about the combat in the first was the lack of ammunition. Especially being a sniper.
This. The whole "charges to mitigate overheating" thing is a bit lame when we had unlimited ammo in the previous game and just had to wait for the gun to cool down like it would in real life.

I love the Automatic sniper rifle I got. It's great to be able to pump a lot of rounds into a target that has barriers up from long range. Though the stopping power trade off kinda sucks. So, if I want stuff killed from a distance quickly, I bring Thane along with me. :)[/QUOTE]

I'm also not all that jazzed about the dumbing down of the character development. Hell, of the dumbing down of the game in general.[/QUOTE]

Alot of the options have been removed, but one thing I noted and liked was that you no longer have to level up skill in each weapon. If you can equip it, you can use it. Also, the same is true of armor. I do like the way they've revamped the ammo and such.


#257

Frank

Frankie Williamson

The only thing I preferred about the combat in the first was the lack of ammunition. Especially being a sniper.
This. The whole "charges to mitigate overheating" thing is a bit lame when we had unlimited ammo in the previous game and just had to wait for the gun to cool down like it would in real life.

I love the Automatic sniper rifle I got. It's great to be able to pump a lot of rounds into a target that has barriers up from long range. Though the stopping power trade off kinda sucks. So, if I want stuff killed from a distance quickly, I bring Thane along with me. :)[/QUOTE]

I'm also not all that jazzed about the dumbing down of the character development. Hell, of the dumbing down of the game in general.[/QUOTE]

Alot of the options have been removed, but one thing I noted and liked was that you no longer have to level up skill in each weapon. If you can equip it, you can use it. Also, the same is true of armor. I do like the way they've revamped the ammo and such.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, like I said, they made it into a competent shooter instead of a half-assed rpg shooter. There's still the rpg bits but it doesn't factor into whether or not you can aim with your mouse.

I think it was one of the Bioware guys who said that in Mass Effect 1, RPG players who were terrible at shooters and relied on the stats and other things to help their characters were still bad at shooters and those people who were good at shooters didn't like that the game was taking control of the combat somewhat away from them.


#258

Gusto

Gusto

Fortunately since getting my new computer and playing ME1 in summer '08, I've actually become some sort of hybrid RPG nerd and shooter fan. :)

This game is excellent and pretty much what I've always wanted from a sequel. It's so gratifying to run into people that I've helped in the previous game, and see what they're up to now. And I've only run into a couple members of my original team.

I can't wait to see if Liara's actually working for the Shadow Broker, and I wonder if this is a Liara-specific thing, or a romantic-interest thing.


#259

Calleja

Calleja

F11 is not taking screenshots for me and I don't know how to map it. Maybe in the ini. I'll check.

Also, maybe this has been posted already in spoilers, which I haven't been reading, but man, new favorite moment in the game by far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXiU6kiq_Ms

What the? Youtube videos no longer show up in spoiler tags? WHAT HAVE THEY DONE!?

DUDE!! I know!! I stopped my game, which is hard as fuck to get me to do, just so I could see if anyone else had mentioned it.... I laughed my ASS off, forget Krogan wanting Citadel fishies, that's the epitome of funnyness right there. Oh man, I love Mordin.


#260

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Allow me to preface what I'm about to write with this: I fucking love this game, and will continue to play the shit out of it.

_____________________________

The PC version of this game has some of the most horrendous DRM that I've ever seen. If you have -any- DLC, you have to be connected to the internet to play at all. With DLC installed, it connects to the EA store at every startup, to verify your DLC. If you're disconnected, it will fail, and you won't be able to load ANY save with DLC in it.

I can stomach DRM to an extent. Mass Effect 1 connected to verify when you installed the game, and any time you patched the game. And I was ok with that. But EVERY GODDAMN TIME I WANT TO PLAY?

There had best be a fix for this.


#261

Calleja

Calleja

Fucking EA


#262



Zumbo Prime

Allow me to preface what I'm about to write with this: I fucking love this game, and will continue to play the shit out of it.
This.

That said, every single character is fucking hilarious. There are many times where I cannot stop laughing. I still can't believe how much it's improved from the first game. It's amazing. <3 Bioware.


#263

Bowielee

Bowielee

Yes, all the minor complaints I may have about the game are WAAAAAAAY overshadowed by it's overall awsomeness.


#264

bhamv3

bhamv3

Yes, all the minor complaints I may have about the game are WAAAAAAAY overshadowed by it's overall awsomeness.
Indeed. All my own gripes are more along the lines of "what could have been" rather than "the game does this badly."


#265

Baerdog

Baerdog

So I killed a thresher maw tonight...
On foot...
In almost one hit...
With the M-920 Cain.

It was awesome.

Edit: Why is that last sentence in the quote box? It should not be there.


#266



Zumbo Prime

So I killed a thresher maw tonight...
On foot...
In almost one hit...
With the M-920 Cain.

It was awesome.

Edit: Why is that last sentence in the quote box? It should not be there.
Funny, that's what I was planning on using also once I reach it.


#267

bhamv3

bhamv3

I just experienced another wonderful moment.

Traveled to the Local system, which is our solar system, and started scanning the planets there. When I got to Uranus, and launched my first probe, EDI said with a tone of exasperation, "Really, Commander?" And then when I launched my second probe, EDI hesitated before saying in an even more exasperated tone, "... probing Uranus."


#268

Gusto

Gusto

That is awesome.


#269

Seraphyn

Seraphyn

There had best be a fix for this.
They seem quite eager to force legit buyers to the console just to escape this hassle. And they've succeeded: I bought this for the 360.


#270



Gkbur

Okay folks, for those of you wondering about survivors of the end mission:

Survivors aren't random, they're based on who gets sent where, loyalty and upgrades.

Upgrades: Get every upgrade you can, especially the ship specific upgrades, if you miss a ship upgrade you'll lose someone in the space battle. If you miss a person-specific upgrade you might lose them on the ground.

Loyalty: If someone isn't loyal to you they might die. Send someone who's not loyal on a job and they'll definitely bite it.

The tube: You've gotta pick a tech specialist for this,have either Legion or Tali do this and they'll survive the tube itself, in order to have them survive the next part though...
Backup team: You need a good leader for your backup team, for mine I chose Miranda, though Garrus will work too.
Barrier: For the biotic barrier you need your strongest biotic, so either Jack or Samara/Morinth. Anyone else will keep you alive, but you'll lose one or both members of your squad.
2nd backup team: I picked Garrus here, though from what I've heard Miranda is also ok.
Protect the survivors: Not really sure of the best traits here, I picked Legion and they all made it back ok, others have picked Garrus or Mordin and also had them make it back.


#271

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Protect the survivors: Not really sure of the best traits here, I picked Legion and they all made it back ok, others have picked Garrus or Mordin and also had them make it back.
In the run I watched, Tali was sent and everyone got through OK. I'm imagining this is based on how Loyal someone is to you as well, or maybe something related to their stories and how much you've done. Sending the person you choose for your relationship is probably the best bet.


#272

Bowielee

Bowielee

Allow me to preface what I'm about to write with this: I fucking love this game, and will continue to play the shit out of it.

_____________________________

The PC version of this game has some of the most horrendous DRM that I've ever seen. If you have -any- DLC, you have to be connected to the internet to play at all. With DLC installed, it connects to the EA store at every startup, to verify your DLC. If you're disconnected, it will fail, and you won't be able to load ANY save with DLC in it.

I can stomach DRM to an extent. Mass Effect 1 connected to verify when you installed the game, and any time you patched the game. And I was ok with that. But EVERY GODDAMN TIME I WANT TO PLAY?

There had best be a fix for this.
I can officially confirm this as 100% not true for the Steam version.

I unplugged my LAN line and was still able to load up my game with the DLC content installed. I had no problems at all. You do have to be online the first time you use it, but seeing as it's DOWNLOADABLE content, you would be connected when you get it anyway.

All it says is that it can't connect to the Cerberus network. Clicked on OK, then resumed my game. Everything was just peachy. I had full access to Zaheed and even went to the normandy crash site to verify that worked as well.

I have the Steam version, so I can't speak to the EA direct download version.


#273

bhamv3

bhamv3

I have the retail version and my experience matches Poe's.


#274

Bowielee

Bowielee

Well, then, I'm certainly glad I got the game on Steam.


#275

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Could somebody explain to me who Hugo Stiglitz is and how somebody found this thread in a search engine by searching "Hugo Stiglitz fanfiction"?


#276

Frank

Frankie Williamson

There had best be a fix for this.
They seem quite eager to force legit buyers to the console just to escape this hassle. And they've succeeded: I bought this for the 360.[/QUOTE]

Which sucks, since the PC version looks amazing compared to the 360 one.


#277

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

There had best be a fix for this.
They seem quite eager to force legit buyers to the console just to escape this hassle. And they've succeeded: I bought this for the 360.[/QUOTE]

Which sucks, since the PC version looks amazing compared to the 360 one.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but only if you have a high end rig. I just upgraded last year and I can't even run the FIRST Mass Effect game. It's a surprisingly beefy game.


#278

bhamv3

bhamv3

Could somebody explain to me who Hugo Stiglitz is and how somebody found this thread in a search engine by searching "Hugo Stiglitz fanfiction"?
I'm wondering who's the poor soul who came in here looking for Miranda Lawson rule 34.

Great, by typing it out again, Google's gonna index us higher for Miranda Lawson rule 34 now, isn't it.

Crap, I did it again.


#279

Frank

Frankie Williamson

There had best be a fix for this.
They seem quite eager to force legit buyers to the console just to escape this hassle. And they've succeeded: I bought this for the 360.[/QUOTE]

Which sucks, since the PC version looks amazing compared to the 360 one.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but only if you have a high end rig. I just upgraded last year and I can't even run the FIRST Mass Effect game. It's a surprisingly beefy game.[/QUOTE]

I think it's pretty funny that on my PC ME2 runs better than both ME1 and Dragon Age. Game doesn't stutter under any circumstances even with every setting cranked.


#280



coolbeans

Could somebody explain to me who Hugo Stiglitz is and how somebody found this thread in a search engine by searching "Hugo Stiglitz fanfiction"?
I'm wondering who's the poor soul who came in here looking for Miranda Lawson rule 34.

Great, by typing it out again, Google's gonna index us higher for Miranda Lawson rule 34 now, isn't it.

Crap, I did it again.[/QUOTE]

I'm still cracking up over the "what will happen if you release the Koran in Mass effect 2"

Religious warfare me thinks...


#281

Bowielee

Bowielee

I'm just finishing up my loyalty quests and getting the last member of my team before mining to get all my upgrades taken care of before doing the IFF (thanks for pointing that out as the point of no return). I'm LOVING the game so far. Thane is badass.

I was so happy when Garrus joined the party after being gunned down. There would be no words for how pissed I would have been if he died. Can't wait to go to the Krogan homeworld and hopefully see Wrex again.


#282



WolfOfOdin



SHEPARD IS PLEASED BY THIS GAME


#283

Far

Far

I believe as long as you have loyalty for everyone and pick appropriate members for each task, I chose Tali for the tube, Garrus to lead both times, Thane to bring back the survivors and Samara to produce the biotic field, as well as get all ship upgrades then everyone should survive.

Finished last night at 42 hrs as an infiltrator with all the side quests finished except the pyjack one on Turchanka, for some reason it wouldn't allow me to turn it in. I had also got 100% completion for all the clusters and full paragon as well.

I had finished the first one similarily but since then the save has been deleted, cursed siblings, and was hoping that there would be a way to tailor the second game with the choices you would have made without an actual save, through a sort of questionaire of some sort. I actually thought that that's what the little mini quiz was about on your way to meet the Illusive man for the first time.

My biggest and to be honest only complaint with the first game was the Mako sidequests and how similar they all felt. Now, I can definitely concede that I most likely made myself despise those simply because I did them all at once instead of spacing them out over the course of my playthrough. I found in ME2 I actually enjoyed doing the N7 sidequests.

The game itself has changed quite a bit while at the same time retaining much of the original. As others have said it is much more of a story driven shooter with some RPG elements kept in from the first. They have definitely simplfied many things, such as armor, both the more streamlined version that your Shepard uses and by removing it from your teamates altogether.

I'll be playing through again as renegade though won't be going for the full completion again.


#284

General Specific

General Specific

Llast night, I completed the game and no one died.

Really, the choices are just common sense towards the end.

Sent Tali into the tube as the best tech person on board.
Garrus led the first team.
Miranda led the second team.
Sent Mordin with the survivors and everyone made it back.
Jack held the barrier up for us.
Had Thane and Zaeed with me through most of the missions. Only Zaeed was not loyal to me due to saving the civilians and missing the leader on his mission.
Took Tali and Thane into the final fight.
Romanced Tali as well and was also angry when the her mask came off and they didn't show her face. Soooo pissed.


#285

Gusto

Gusto

Thought this was relevant, cross-posting from WCAJ:



#286

bhamv3

bhamv3

I youtubed the bad ending, the REALLY REALLY bad one. It's actually pretty good.


#287



Zumbo Prime

Llast night, I completed the game and no one died.

Really, the choices are just common sense towards the end.

Sent Tali into the tube as the best tech person on board.
Garrus led the first team.
Miranda led the second team.
Sent Mordin with the survivors and everyone made it back.
Jack held the barrier up for us.
Had Thane and Zaeed with me through most of the missions. Only Zaeed was not loyal to me due to saving the civilians and missing the leader on his mission.
Took Tali and Thane into the final fight.
Romanced Tali as well and was also angry when the her mask came off and they didn't show her face. Soooo pissed.
I did the same thing with Zaeed, but I used my Paragon option at the end and still got loyalty.


#288

Baerdog

Baerdog

So I'm at the point in the game where I fly around the galaxy mopping up sidequests and upgrades before going to get the IFF and I want to make sure I get everything. Is there anywhere else besides Ilium that sells star charts?


#289

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Damn, I
lost some of my Cerberus personnel because I dicked around too much after they were captured. OH well.


#290

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

So I'm at the point in the game where I fly around the galaxy mopping up sidequests and upgrades before going to get the IFF and I want to make sure I get everything. Is there anywhere else besides Ilium that sells star charts?
No, Illium is the only planet with Star charts. Every other location is unlocked via sidequests or the main story.


#291

Baerdog

Baerdog

Okay, sweet. Thanks.


#292

General Specific

General Specific

Damn, I
lost some of my Cerberus personnel because I dicked around too much after they were captured. OH well.
Yeah, apparently you have to go directly or you lose people. I had to go mine a bit more Platinum to get Legion's sniper rifle made and then went right to it, but still lost a ton of people. Gaby in engineering, 1 of the two people in the crew quarters, lost Kelly Chambers, lost the cook guy, etc. etc. Not sure how you can get the IFF, collect Legion, make his upgrade, and still save everyone.


#293

Baerdog

Baerdog

I've had my ear to the ground about that and it seems like you've got time for one mission before you lose people, so that mission should be Legion's loyalty mission. As far as upgrades, I'll be stocking up on everything before doing the IFF.


#294

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

It's probably much easier to jump through all the hoops once you beat the game once and start over with the free 50K of every resource.


#295

Calleja

Calleja

I started out with a 5k bonus cause my imported ME save had the "Rich" achievement. Fat lot of good THAT did me.

50k isn't much either. Couple of later upgrades only, really.


#296

General Specific

General Specific

I've had my ear to the ground about that and it seems like you've got time for one mission before you lose people, so that mission should be Legion's loyalty mission. As far as upgrades, I'll be stocking up on everything before doing the IFF.
I don't know. I didn't even do a mission, I just went to a couple of planets and mined some Platinum, then straight on through the Omega 4 relay.


#297

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I started out with a 5k bonus cause my imported ME save had the "Rich" achievement. Fat lot of good THAT did me.

50k isn't much either. Couple of later upgrades only, really.
It'll keep you from having to probe quite as much (or let you get upgrades much earlier than before.)


#298

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Man, on the last fight..

It was really a disappointment and a total letdown. It looked like it was going to be this epic, super hard fight and ended up that the fucking humanoreaper was almost 0 threat to anything. 10 quick sniper shots to the eye and he goes down? That's it? Boooo.

Also, Jesus, the FemShep hairstyles are awful. At least the guy is just short military dos. The hair textures are just glaringly awful compared to everything else.


#299

Bowielee

Bowielee

I need to get my Paragon points up so I can get my Loyalty from Miranda back. I started the game Renegade, but tried to play it in a "atone for my sins" angle. Leaves me short of the Paragon points needed to get Miranda back to being loyal again. I hope there are enough sidequests before I head out to get her back on my side.


#300

bhamv3

bhamv3

http://www.annakie.com/me/mods.htm

Someone created a mod that tweaks the ammo system, it's now sort of a hybrid between the first game's heat system and the second game's ammo system. Basically, loaded ammo will regen over time while the gun's not being fired. This represents heat being dissipated from the gun. If the counter still reaches zero, the heat sink is popped and a new one loaded - basically the same as reloading the gun. The downside is that guns now can't be reloaded manually, so the only way to fill up your heat clip is to either wait for it to regen, or spend the rest of your clip and then pop a new one.

I gave it a whirl, and it's not bad. It doesn't feel quite like the heat system from the first game, so it's not great to me, but I think it's an acceptable compromise.


#301

Calleja

Calleja

I finished, took my time on purpose cause I had played 32 hours in like 3 days and decided I wanted to savor it more after that. Spoilers next:
Like The Doctor once said... EVERYONE LIVES! JUST THIS ONE TIME, EVERYONE LIVES!! I lost no one, not even crew. I did every single mission and assignment I had before going after the IFF, and purchased every upgrade for the ship except the one that removes the scars. I was Paragon so duh. I bought no upgrades for specific squad members except Grunt's shotgun, so I don't think those have much to do on who lives and who dies.

I'm glad my first playthrough had no one dying... especially cause I read no spoilers before hand so I had no idea what needed to be done to avoid losing people, and I still accomplished it. I win!

So how many endings are there anyway? Not counting the number of people who live, like, actual endings.


#302

bhamv3

bhamv3

Then there are four, I believe. Two variations of two variations.

You can either have Shepard live, in which case he has a final meeting with the Illusive Man, or you can have him die, in which case Joker meets with TIM. And the meeting will either be about Shepard keeping the Collector base, or destroying it.


#303

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Ok, my one true and amazingly final complaint about ME2:

That broken neck jog Shepard does when you're running up to talk to Joker in the cockpit. He looks over at the two crewmen who are always conversing about banging whores and dying and shit and he continues his bouncy jog and his head looks like it's flopping around like a broken necked turkey. It's mesmerizing and horrifying at the same time.


#304

Calleja

Calleja

lmao! YES! It also happens when you're running back, it's weird as shit!


#305

Bowielee

Bowielee

I too noticed that. It's weird as hell.

There are also a few conversations, where the camera passes through someone's head. That's a little immersion breaking when you're staring at the back of some eyeballs and teeth during a conversation.


#306

Calleja

Calleja

Yeah... it's worth it for the awesome cinematic camera movements you usually get flawlessly during conversations, though. The bug only happened three or four times out of, what, hundreds of conversations?


#307

Bowielee

Bowielee

Again, and I can't stress this enough, even though I have minor nitpicks, the game is almost flawless.


#308

Calleja

Calleja

*loving sigh* I know, right? It feels so good when something you really look forward to lives up to your expectations and more. Something Hollywood hasn't given me in a while. I freaking love this game so much :heart:

---------- Post added at 02:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:25 PM ----------

WEll, I should say my only major real complaint is the lack of armor pieces you get. I mean, I got the Terminus armor for pre-ordering and that's cool and all, but I ended up using it for only one mission because the funny-factor of all the conversations being with that big hermetic helmet on wore off pretty fast and became.... distracting. Besides that one, I ended up finding only like 3 variations of each chest, shoulders, legs and head. Why develop such an awesome personalization feature if you're just gonna offer a few combinations of set up?


#309

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Heh, I was wearing the recon hood first time I ran into Liara. Making out through a face mask is pretty goofy.


#310

General Specific

General Specific

Then there are four, I believe. Two variations of two variations.

You can either have Shepard live, in which case he has a final meeting with the Illusive Man, or you can have him die, in which case Joker meets with TIM. And the meeting will either be about Shepard keeping the Collector base, or destroying it.
There are some that call me.... TIM


Oh yeah, quick tip, the Cain heavy weapon is your best friend against the larger opponents.

One Shots the Thresher Maw on Tuchanka and took half the heath of the Human Reaper in one shot


#311

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Finally was able to get the game this week. Started yesterday and am totally addicted. One of my favorite things was that I pretty much made my Shepard look exactly like he did in the first game just messing with the editor, only I gave him hair so that he has a slight change over his military buzz cut I gave him in the first game. First thing I did was went and got Garrus, I can't play Mass Effect without Garrus fighting beside me. I just did his loyalty mission, the followup conversation made me laugh so much. "I had reach, but she had flexibility."

Also I am totally messed up about the romance stuff. Part of me wants to romance Tali, the other part wants to just keep the character loyal to Ash. Call it the loyalist in me, but I don't feel right making my Paragon Shepard dump her after she sent him a letter saying she never wants to lose him again, even though I like Tali. Bah....


#312

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Finally was able to get the game this week. Started yesterday and am totally addicted. One of my favorite things was that I pretty much made my Shepard look exactly like he did in the first game just messing with the editor, only I gave him hair so that he has a slight change over his military buzz cut I gave him in the first game. First thing I did was went and got Garrus, I can't play Mass Effect without Garrus fighting beside me. I just did his loyalty mission, the followup conversation made me laugh so much. "I had reach, but she had flexibility."

Also I am totally messed up about the romance stuff. Part of me wants to romance Tali, the other part wants to just keep the character loyal to Ash. Call it the loyalist in me, but I don't feel right making my Paragon Shepard dump her after she sent him a letter saying she never wants to lose him again, even though I like Tali. Bah....

If it's done through a Quarian suit, it isn't really cheating.


#313

Calleja

Calleja

have you SEEN miranda?! She's HAWT. Almost as hot as the girl who plays her and who they modeled her after:

View attachment 305

Ashley who? >_>

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#314

Allen who is Quiet

Allen, who is Quiet

Ashley who? >_>
From the first Mass Effect, the soldier. You meet her very early in the game.


#315

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

I actually find Miranda rather unattractive. Not sure what it is but when the light hits her face she seems almost sickly. Then again, I didn't find Ashley all that attractive either and look at me trying to stick with her.

Really the only characters I find really attractive in ME2 as Kelly and Aria, Tali I like because she has always had a cool personality.


#316

Calleja

Calleja

Oh, the one in the pink ranger suit.

Yeah, I'll stay with miranda :drool:


#317

Jay

Jay

I actually find Miranda rather unattractive. Not sure what it is but when the light hits her face she seems almost sickly. Then again, I didn't find Ashley all that attractive either and look at me trying to stick with her.

Really the only characters I find really attractive in ME2 as Kelly and Aria, Tali I like because she has always had a cool personality.
Wha... what the hell?


#318

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Aria? From Omega? ... you realize you'd be her bitch, right?

Unless you're into that sorta thing.

.....

I'd do it.


ANYWAY, just beat the game. And wow, I already can't wait for the third.

Not everyone survived the suicide mission. Tali and Grunt both died. Grunt died a good death, but Tali took a sniper to the head... I'm still sad about it.


#319

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Wha... what the hell?
Different strokes for different folks, my good sir. I think she would look better if she was not so ghostly white and her eyes didn't look weird

Aria? From Omega? ... you realize you'd be her bitch, right?
That is why I like her. :p

P.S. Ok now that I got her in the black suit Miranda is not so bad, maybe the outfit was just washing her out to me.


#320



WolfOfOdin

AND she's voiced by Carrie-Anne Moss, fucking Trinity.


I went for Tali though. she's adorable


#321

General Specific

General Specific

P.S. Ok now that I got her in the black suit Miranda is not so bad, maybe the outfit was just washing her out to me.
yeah, that shiny black catsuit of hers... damn

I want an outfit like that for the fem shep I made, but get stuck with that overalls thing that does not look good on anyone or the military styled stuff.


#322

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Man I just wanted to say again how happy I am to have Garrus back. He is the only character once again that I have to bring to nearly ever mission, the rest I switch out based on how well I think they fit for whats happening, like Grunt on the Korgan world, Jack when I know I will fight a biotic, Zeead when I am storming a skyscraper, etc. I admit though most of my teams when it involves the story missions involve Garrus and Grunt, you just can't go wrong with a wrecking ball out front and two snipers/riflemen sitting in the back. If I didn't bring Grunt, I think Jack or Mordin will be my next choices. All the others are good but don't synergize well with myself and Garrus.


#323



WolfOfOdin

Did anyone else gain a healthy amount of respect/sympathy for Mordin during his loyalty mission?


#324

Calleja

Calleja

Mordin won me over when he sang, really.


#325

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

You know, after watching the video showing off the Renegade options in Mass Effect 2, I think I almost wish I had the strength to make those choices. They are hilarious. I totally would have punched that news chick too. Oh and...

SPOILERS.



#326

bhamv3

bhamv3

Did anyone else gain a healthy amount of respect/sympathy for Mordin during his loyalty mission?
I sure did. Plus the voice acting was outstanding, you could hear how, behind his objective certainty that the genophage was the right choice, his conscience still bothered him.

I'd say Mordin's voice acting there is probably the best in the game, followed closely by Tali's voice acting while romancing her.


#327

Jay

Jay

Mordin won me over when he sang, really.
FFS spoilers


#328

Baerdog

Baerdog

Oh relax. It's practically a throw away gag in one of your shipboard conversations with him.


#329

Calleja

Calleja

...people were openly talking about his loyalty mission and you're mad about the singing thing?


#330

Jay

Jay

I'll post this as politely as possible as this is important to me.

Just because some people failed at being proper posters and cannot manage the effort to use spoiler tags when they post, it doesn't mean it gives everyone else a green card to do it. Moderation on these forums is poor and it is important that we moderate this kind of stuff between ourselves so that spoilers, whether large or small are not going to ruin someone else's gameplay. Unlike some who finished the game as quickly as possible and have a lot to share with others, there are others, such as myself, which are taking their sweet time to play this fantastic game, savoring every gaming moment at their own pace. This may mean that it may take several weeks may pass before the game is finished for some. This doesn't mean these posters shouldn't be able to partake in the enthusiasm of the game neither when it can simply be avoided by posters properly clicking on the spoiler tag. Or even better, some moderation. If we don't have enough mods to go around doing this job, I'd gladly do it for this gaming sub-forum.

Please respect the gaming immersion of your fellow posters and please stop posting spoilers.


#331

General Specific

General Specific

Romancing Grunt was weird. How would a human and Krogan even do it without serious trauma to the human?

Also, I thought Grunt was male...


#332

Calleja

Calleja

Fair enough.. but why are you hanging around the thread if you want to avoid even the most irrelevant and trivial of spoilers? There are spoilers of the kind in the tags now, FFS. I understand where you're coming from, but just as you expect people to respect the pace you're playing at, you should also realize that not everyone thinks irrelevant details count as "spoilers". One thing is talking about the specifics of a character's reactions in their loyalty mission (which you seemingly had no problem with) and another is a gag that could just as easily been featured in a TV spot or something, since it has no impact on storyline, character development, immersion...nothing. It's like talking about the armor pattern colors, which, again, you seemingly had no problem with.

What surprised me is you singled out my post and called me out on spoilers when it's perhaps the least spoiler-y thing in the thread's page. What I can't help but assume from that is that you're ok with reading spoilers you've already seen yourself even if they're un-tagged, but will jump at the most minute thing if you haven't. Which is a bit unreasonable, really. You're ok with people talking about a major plot point like Garrus being around cause you're probably already past that spot, but not a minute detail people have even posted youtube videos of? So it's spoilers at YOUR pace that you're ok with?


#333

Baerdog

Baerdog

I want to know what person will go into a thread about a certain game/movie/book and not expect to see untagged spoilers. The game's been out for several weeks at this point. Spoilers in a thread about it really should not come as a surprise.


#334

Calleja

Calleja

The rule is that unless the title of the thread has the warning for spoilers all spoilers should be tagged, which is fair enough, and something I've always appreciated and tried to follow.

What I find stunning is that he considers a throwaway gag like mordin's singing, something lots of players probably even MISS in their playthrough, more deserving of a calling out than open un-tagged talk about mordin's reactions/storyline or Garrus being around or etc.


#335

figmentPez

figmentPez

Mass Effect 2 Addiction Station

So, when does the thread title get changed to reflect that the game has been released?


#336

bhamv3

bhamv3

We could change it to Mass Effect 3 Anticipation Station. That way we'll be able to keep this thread here for years!


#337

General Specific

General Specific

The rule is that unless the title of the thread has the warning for spoilers all spoilers should be tagged, which is fair enough, and something I've always appreciated and tried to follow.

What I find stunning is that he considers a throwaway gag like mordin's singing, something lots of players probably even MISS in their playthrough, more deserving of a calling out than open un-tagged talk about mordin's reactions/storyline or Garrus being around or etc.
I think we should respect his wishes.

So, now when we talk about
Shepard
when he
shoots some people
and then
scans the body for an upgrade
, we should use spoilers. We definitely need to spoiler anything major like
Jacob's loyalty mission
where he
meets his father after 9 years
. That would just be mean to reveal ahead of time. We should not even reveal that the
Collectors
are
being controlled by the Reapers
as that may not be readily known.

Even
interesting little side missions
like the
Krogan wanting sushi
or
Conrad Verner (The Fan from 1) showing up on Illium
should not be revealed ahead of time because it would
totally ruin the game forever.


#338

Calleja

Calleja

That being said... who the HELL made all the "Krogen" fish taglines!? It's KrogAn.. KROGAN! With an A! Whoever did all of them had to be the same moron making multiple stupid tags... T_T


#339

bhamv3

bhamv3

I think those are search engine strings that brought people to this thread, not tags.

I find it interesting that the most common query is for Miranda Lawson rule 34. I wonder how many people have arrived at this thread, only to leave horribly disappointed.


#340



Kitty Sinatra

I find it interesting that the most common query is for Miranda Lawson rule 34.
I think you mean "pathetic"


#341

bhamv3

bhamv3

I find it interesting that the most common query is for Miranda Lawson rule 34.
I think you mean "pathetic"[/QUOTE]

Nah, I'm not going to judge what other people choose to find sexy and/or whack off to. They're free to enjoy for Miranda Lawson rule 34 if they want.

What I find interesting is that this thread comes up in the search results for Miranda Lawson rule 34 at all, much less the number 1 search result bringing people here.


#342



Kitty Sinatra

Nah, I'm not going to judge what other people choose to find sexy and/or whack off to.
Bah! You're no fun . . . though actually I agree with all you said.


#343

bhamv3

bhamv3

Would you prefer if I wharrgarbl'd a bit?


#344

Baerdog

Baerdog

Could you? Maybe just a little?


#345

bhamv3

bhamv3

No problem!

*ahem*

WTF do you mean pathetic you asshole, sitting there judging people, what gives you the right to tell people what they can or cannot search for you pricktard. I'll have you know I have a huge poster on my wall of Miranda Lawson having hot monkey sex with a hanar, I photoshopped it myself. Every night I go to sleep staring at it and then I dream of Miranda and sometimes of the hanar too and it's always a nice dream. Except that one time I accidentally dreamt of Zaeed too, that sucked cause he's totally not hot, but I woke up pretty fast after that so it was ok, but you wouldn't know anything about that because you don't really care about this game or any of the characters enough, right, cause you don't really have fantasies about them like I do, that proves I'm a bigger fan of this game than you are, so there.

How was that?


#346

Baerdog

Baerdog

Excellent, thank you.


#347



Kitty Sinatra

Nice.

Although y'know that's just gonna bump us higher up on searches for Miranda Lawson Rule 34 . . . so you're gonna have to post a copy of that poster you shopped if you don't want the angry Internutz to burn down halforums.


#348

bhamv3

bhamv3

Great, now I have to actually go shop a poster of Miranda Lawson and a hanar?

*grumble*


#349



Kitty Sinatra

I'm sure the internet would appreciate it. They've certainly expressed an interest.


#350

Calleja

Calleja

AAAH... we get to see what people searched to get here now?

I had not noticed that. alright, so it's random people who are stupid and can't spell "krogan" and the spoilers (at least according to SeriousJay's definition of "spoiler") are in that section, not the actual tags.

My bad.


#351

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Well it is over, I beat the game.

No one died! I went nuts to make sure everyone was loyal, every upgrade nearly maxed, and made smart choices through the final fights. It was intense though, not knowing if it would be enough. Chose Legion as the Tech, and he did it flawlessly. Garrus was leader of both secondary teams, because he is awesome and deserved it, didn't let me down. Samara the biotic for the swarm room, and got her own little attack at the end too. They all held the line without losing anyone. Also, I made Tali my romance, Ash be damned. Tali just grew on me, and deserved some attention considering she stuck out with me for two games.

Speaking of Tali, I took her to the last fight, alongside Legion. Felt it would be ironic to have a Geth and a Quarian helping me save the universe together. I decided to keep my "strongest" characters holding the line, and felt the two techs were always a bit weaker. I don't regret it at all, because I totally underestimated them. Both had max drones, Tali specializing in exploding drones while Legion specialized in Heavy Drones. I had what equaled four squadmates, and Harbinger like a total idiot would always stand still and target the drones, letting me burst him with my machine gun without even getting hit. It was fun watching myself "save" Tali, and then afterward she saved me when I almost miss the ship. Really struck with me considering the relationship that just happened prior to the Omega4.

Now for the bad news, I was so in the moment I decided to just agree with the Illusive Man and save the fortress. Now I regret it, so I will probably play the last mission again in a month. Also, I found out that I accidentally whooed Jack into thinking we were an item without me realizing it (damn paragon choices being vague), and when I told her it was over, now she just tells me to "Fuck off", even after the final battle when I wanted to hear what she had to say about it. Hope someone mods that out or something, but either way the last mission will have to be redone so I can blow it up like I should have.


#352

bhamv3

bhamv3

It'd be funny if saving the Collector base turned out to be the "better" choice when loading your save into ME3. For example the technology salvaged from the Collectors end up helping against the Reapers.

So far, most of the better imported choices are paragon choices, so maybe it's time for renegades to have their day.


#353

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Well it is over, I beat the game.

No one died! I went nuts to make sure everyone was loyal, every upgrade nearly maxed, and made smart choices through the final fights. It was intense though, not knowing if it would be enough. Chose Legion as the Tech, and he did it flawlessly. Garrus was leader of both secondary teams, because he is awesome and deserved it, didn't let me down. Samara the biotic for the swarm room, and got her own little attack at the end too. They all held the line without losing anyone. Also, I made Tali my romance, Ash be damned. Tali just grew on me, and deserved some attention considering she stuck out with me for two games.

Speaking of Tali, I took her to the last fight, alongside Legion. Felt it would be ironic to have a Geth and a Quarian helping me save the universe together. I decided to keep my "strongest" characters holding the line, and felt the two techs were always a bit weaker. I don't regret it at all, because I totally underestimated them. Both had max drones, Tali specializing in exploding drones while Legion specialized in Heavy Drones. I had what equaled four squadmates, and Harbinger like a total idiot would always stand still and target the drones, letting me burst him with my machine gun without even getting hit. It was fun watching myself "save" Tali, and then afterward she saved me when I almost miss the ship. Really struck with me considering the relationship that just happened prior to the Omega4.

Now for the bad news, I was so in the moment I decided to just agree with the Illusive Man and save the fortress. Now I regret it, so I will probably play the last mission again in a month. Also, I found out that I accidentally whooed Jack into thinking we were an item without me realizing it (damn paragon choices being vague), and when I told her it was over, now she just tells me to "Fuck off", even after the final battle when I wanted to hear what she had to say about it. Hope someone mods that out or something, but either way the last mission will have to be redone so I can blow it up like I should have.
You get Legion his Widow sniper rifle and you can sit behind cover and let him take everything out almost singlehandedly. He's definitely not weak.

Just saying.


#354

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

You get Legion his Widow sniper rifle and you can sit behind cover and let him take everything out almost singlehandedly. He's definitely not weak.
That would work if the game gave me time to get it. I was short on Platinum because of other upgrades that I decided to take before his loyalty mission, and then once I finished his loyalty mission and it offered me the sniper upgrade, I was going to head out to get Platinum only to find the game forcing me into the crew capture scene. I didn't want to chance going out for scans and find half my crew dead by some internal timer, so I decided to go without it.

He is definitely not "weak" but compared to characters like Grunt or Garrus he felt weaker when I used him. I still think he was a great companion, and his effectiveness with the last boss definitely can not be understated. He and Tali made a really good team.


#355

Calleja

Calleja

Wow, Scythe made EXACTLY the same choices that I did.
Except for the last one, I told the Illusive Man to suck it and blew the station up.


#356

Dei

Dei

Wow, Scythe made EXACTLY the same choices that I did.
Except for the last one, I told the Illusive Man to suck it and blew the station up.
I really think that having the Collector tech is important to beating the Reapers, but damn I hate giving TIM that much power.


#357

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

I really think that having the Collector tech is important to beating the Reapers, but damn I hate giving TIM that much power.
I would not be so guilty about it if not for the fact that literally the whole crew is like "dude... we gave that guy a lot of powerful shit, I hope you did the right thing." Even Miranda and Jacob were given me the "I am not so sure about giving the base to TIM" and I am like "God damn it... can't someone think I made the right choice on this damn ship!?"

Knowing my luck though I will go back, do it all again but blow it up this time, and everyone will be like "Dude... we could have used that tech to fight the Reapers, I hope you did the right thing".


#358

Jay

Jay

Goddamnit, they made Tali so damned adorable in this game. Gonna be tough to choose what I want... or stick it through with Ashley for the 3rd one. Then there is Miranda in the black suit.... can't I just have them all? I may have to make multiple saves...

Last night, I got really annoyed. For some reason, the game locked up HARD and caused me to do a cold reboot. When I got back in, I lost ALL my keyboard settings, my achivements and most importantly all my paragon and renegade levels. I spent a solid 2 hours scouring the net for some kind of trainer that would fix it. I finally managed to get it fixed but really ruined my immersion last night.


#359

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Just to keep the discussion going, what did you think of all the squad members during the playthrough? Who did you find yourself focusing on and such? Here is a little list from most interesting to me, to least.

Garrus - I already mentioned him. Just his demeanor, his very cold morals and get shit done attitude, mixed with some humor and wit on occasion.

Grunt - The guy really grew on me, even more then Wrex did in the first game. He became pretty much a stable of my main squad. Not sure, but I just really liked playing with him.

Legion - He was the last guy I got on my team, and frankly I wish Bioware made it so you could recruit him before starting the IFF countdown. Something about the way he talks and how his face expresses just made me smile, I got goose bumps when I told him to blow up the Herectic base, and he opens his flaps, eyes turn red, and he says "ACKNOWLEDGED" before getting to work without hesitation.

Tali - It is Tali, you all know why people love her.

Mordin - The guy is just fun to listen to, not only on the ship, but also in combat. He has a lot of great skills that really help when needed also, though I rarely took him with me.

Jack - Jack sits in the middle of my interest. I liked using her sometimes just for Shockwave, but it was rare and only when I knew the next mission was going to be a firefight with a lot of guys (If only I took her to the derelict reaper, damn that one was rather intense). As cliche as it was and filled with angst, I liked her story too.

Miranda - Other then being "Sexy" in that black jumpsuit, I really didn't enjoy having her on my team. She had some good squad bonuses and biotics, but I just found more effectiveness in other fighters.

Thane - I feel kind of bad for Thane, because I actually liked his personality, but I got him so late in the game that I never really gathered a lot of interest in him. I already had my "assassin" squad pretty much locked down. What is worst is the only mission I took him with, was his loyalty mission, which involved zero combat.

Samara - She fell into the same trap as Thane, I got her just before going to get the IFF, so she had the least amount of time working with me, and just like Thane, her loyalty mission involved pretty much zero combat. I used her as the biotic over Jack in the last mission more over the fact I worried turning down Jack in the romance angle screwed up her loyalty, making her prone to die.

Zaeed - Didn't really care for him. He is great when fighting, but BioWare made it so you can't even talk with him on the ship, rather you can just hear him ramble about stuff or compact trash in the background, making my desire to bring him along way to low. I like talking with my crew and the only time I got that was in the loyalty mission.

Jacob - Just like Kaiden in the first game, I felt he was rather forgettable to my male Shepard character. I just didn't have any desire to use him after doing his loyalty mission, I just had more fun and interesting choices.


#360

Dei

Dei

I still hate the fem Shep romance options. As much as I like Garrus as a character I feel so icky romancing a turian. >.>


#361

Calleja

Calleja

GARRUS IS A ROMANCE OPTION FOR FEMSHEP!?

But... that's just WRONG!! Not only cause of his Turian ickyness but... come on, he's like a brother to Shephard!

Oh man, that was surprising to read....

-Calleja, who has never played with a FemShep.


#362

Dei

Dei

Yeah FemShep options are Jacob, Garrus,Thane, and Kelly, who is a romance option for everyone on the freaking ship (lol).


#363

D

Dubyamn

I would not be so guilty about it if not for the fact that literally the whole crew is like "dude... we gave that guy a lot of powerful shit, I hope you did the right thing." Even Miranda and Jacob were given me the "I am not so sure about giving the base to TIM" and I am like "God damn it... can't someone think I made the right choice on this damn ship!?"

Knowing my luck though I will go back, do it all again but blow it up this time, and everyone will be like "Dude... we could have used that tech to fight the Reapers, I hope you did the right thing".
Felt exactly the same way about every single one of them saying I should have blown the station. Thing is that TIM is the only person in the universe who both has power and supports Shepard's fight so honestly I think he's the only person who Shepard can trust with the station.

Council would probably just say Saren set it up to embarrass me and that I'm too stupid to realize it, Anderson/ Udina would probably butt heads with the council without effecting any kind of change, and the Alliance would say they can use it while burying it's exsistance and sending me off on some tail chase mission.

Cerebeus on the other hand has thrown nearly their entire Budget behind the fight against the Reapers and offered up substantial support with information, logistics and money to continue the fight. Why on earth would they not use the tech they gained to fight the Reapers?


#364

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Felt exactly the same way about every single one of them saying I should have blown the station. Thing is that TIM is the only person in the universe who both has power and supports Shepard's fight so honestly I think he's the only person who Shepard can trust with the station.
Pretty much the same reasons for myself deciding to keep the station at the very end. He brought me back to life, gave me a really powerful ship, let me control the ship and make all the choices without him nagging me all the time, a rather loyal crew, and tons of resources and information. It seemed weird not to trust him a little bit. They even had that scene where they almost hinted that the whole thing with Jack was not even fully known by him...

But that's the point. This is the most secretive and influential human in the galaxy. He has agents and contacts everywhere, and plans inside plan inside plans. You don't know what his final motivations are, or what having such technology will mean for the galaxy. All the freedoms he gives us may just be his own way to put us into a false sense of security. For all we know, he will use the factory to make himself into a Reaper.

That is why I am unsure. I might save the save game I have now and reload an old one and do the blowup anyways, that way when I learn more about ME3 I will be able to choose how I wish for that to happen.

That I think is one of the neat things about ME2, you are not sure if some of the things you are doing will be good or bad in the end. Destroy the base, I may lose Cerebrus, but I leave the base, I may make Cerebrus a stronger enemy in the future. Legion's loyalty mission is a good example also. You rewrite all the Geth to rejoin the collective as a whole, you don't know what all those former heretics will do to the Geth. Will they infect the Geth and make them even more deadly now that the "good" Geth got to experience what the heretic saw? Or will the fact you saved them allow the Geth to better fight the Reapers, since they know the internal structure of the Reapers from working with Sovereign.

Can't wait to see how that plays out.

Also, what anyone else extremely disturbed when they broke down that chick into goo? I think I am going to have nightmares about that scene.


#365

Seraphyn

Seraphyn

God I love this game. They took everything I somewhat disliked in the first instalment and poured it into awesomesauce.

As far as the romancing went:
I decided to stick it out with Ashley, I'm interested to see where that goes in part 3, I'll probably romance others in my non imported playthroughs following this first one.

On the ending:
So we all handed the base to TIM on our first playthrough? :p
It just seemed like the right choice and I was somewhat amazed that no one agreed with me on this (ingame). TIM put a lot of time, effort and resources in letting me do my thing and didn't bitch and moan about how I did it, unlike the council did.


#366

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

God I love this game. They took everything I somewhat disliked in the first instalment and poured it into awesomesauce.

As far as the romancing went:
I decided to stick it out with Ashley, I'm interested to see where that goes in part 3, I'll probably romance others in my non imported playthroughs following this first one.

On the ending:
So we all handed the base to TIM on our first playthrough? :p
It just seemed like the right choice and I was somewhat amazed that no one agreed with me on this (ingame). TIM put a lot of time, effort and resources in letting me do my thing and didn't bitch and moan about how I did it, unlike the council did.
Hell no, I blew that shit up, and told TIM that I'm running things, and if he's lucky he can come along for the ride. Then I hung up on him.

Felt great, too.

That's the great thing about Cerberus. You can't tell if they're good or bad, or anything in between. Their ideals sound good, and in a galaxy of so many people sitting on their ass, it's great to see a group being proactive. But they're so damn secretive that it's impossible to tell what their real goals are. If Cerberus were made too powerful, what would keep them from steamrolling the rest of the galaxy once the reapers were taken care of?


If there's a galaxy left, anyway.


#367

Calleja

Calleja

I blew that shit up, too. And I also hang up on TIM *high fives N_R*.

That and the choosing of the team leaders were the decisions I took a good long time to ponder. I decided that Cerberus was just too good to be true and they obviously have ulterior motives. Also, I didn't forget the stuff Cerberus did in ME1. The idea of a human-superiority organization gaining leverage over the entire galaxy didn't sit well with me. Humans don't need any more of a leg up at this point, they're one of the Council Races and are pretty much running C-Sec now. Humanity is recognized and respected now, we don't need Cerberus fighting with anti-alien agendas around MY Milky Way. Screw Martin Sheen, we do things MY way. (damn, I think Shephard might need someone to keep HIM in check now :paranoid:)


#368

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Now that it is over I have time to show everyone my own Shepard. He looks exactly like the one I had in ME1, only I gave him hair rather then the buzzcut, just for the sake of making it look like time passed.

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The last one is HILARIOUS, I still don't know where I got him to make such a stupid face.

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#369

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

How the hell do you take screenshots?


#370

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

FRAPS. I have it on all the time for other projects, so it works out for me when I play games and have a quick photo op.


#371

Frank

Frankie Williamson

The damn lighting suckered me with my femshepard. I thought she looked half decent and she didn't look bad in the beginning, then on frigging Omega in the red lighting there I noticed there that she looks like she has retarded psuedohuman fish lips. And it drove me nuts.


#372

Calleja

Calleja

how did you get that cool visor thing? The one that goes over both eyes, the single one I used.


#373

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Dr. Pepper codes. Not available outside of the US unless you sign up for three separate accounts on drpepper.com in the promotions section and use these codes:

CBEEAAA41NWH
CBEEAAAE4L9N
CBEEAAAFQG9J
CBEEAAAE98ZV

Any 3 of the 4 should work. You have to use a separate account for each code and tie each account to your ea/bioware account.

Each code should give you the choice to unlock a single item from Mass Effect 2 (or some other EA games). It's a pain in the ass but it's the only way those of us outside the US can get it.


#374

bhamv3

bhamv3

Regarding party members:

Garrus: You can really tell the two intervening years have changed him. He's still dedicated to truth and justice, but now he's willing to take extreme measures to get things done. I thought Garrus's darker personality fits well with the overall darker settings and tone of the second game.

Tali: Still hot, still cute, incredibly well voiced. Also, she feels like she's grown up and become very competent, an integral part of the Migrant Fleet.

Miranda: Not too big a fan of the ice queen schtick, though her opening up and becoming warmer after earning her loyalty is nice. Also, she's very hot.

Jack: I haven't tried romancing her yet, so maybe there's more than meets the eye, but basically while her "they messed with me so now I'm fucked up" background is understandable and worthy of sympathy, I didn't care enough about her to really want to be her shrink.

Jacob: Found him to be a bit forgettable and not all that interesting.

Thane: Pretty cool, but I wish he lived up to the sheer awesomeness he was in the preview trailers.

Grunt: Ditto.

Samara: It's an asari with her boobs hanging out. Also, it was nice to learn more about asari culture, such as the justicars and the Ardat-Yakshi.

Mordin: This guy's hilarious in every way possible. I could listen to him talk for hours and not get tired of him.

Zaeed: Pretty forgettable in terms of character and combat ability. I don't think I used him at all apart from his loyalty quest.

Other crew members: Joker is still awesome and hilarious, as are the two engineers in the engineering deck. I also liked Kelly, since I'm a big pervert and she's an attractive woman willing to sleep her way to the top. Doctor Chakwas seemed odd though, she feels quite stiff and robotic in this game. It's like her animators forgot to animate her.


#375

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I actually liked Jacob. He was the normal guy on the ship. My shep and he were total bros, and I can imagine them going out to a bar together after the mission.

I was also surprised at how much I liked Jack as a character. Her preview videos and stuff all showed her to be nothing but a 90's style gruff omg exxxtreme bitch! But she actually had a lot more depth than she appeared.

Also, she looks like Natalie Portman.


#376

Bowielee

Bowielee

Even though they made her out to be a better character than she first appeared to be, I'm not very partial to Jack.


#377

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Even though they made her out to be a better character than she first appeared to be, I'm not very partial to Jack.
I like Jack, but I don't like how they don't give you an option to easily say you want to be friends with her. The fact I got in a relationship with her on complete accident annoyed me. Plus I am not very fond of bald girls, unless they are green. :p


#378

Jay

Jay

I like Jack, but I don't like how they don't give you an option to easily say you want to be friends with her. The fact I got in a relationship with her on complete accident annoyed me. Plus I am not very fond of bald girls, unless they are green. :p
I agree and it was annoyingly placed as well. I wrapped up a lengthy mission (in this case, miranda's loyalty quest), went through a nice immersive rp moment, we get back on the ship and before I can even save, I'm thrown into a decision making moment (i'm currently trying to wrap all things before going to the IFF, with all loyalty/sub quests done and no romance started) with Jack and Miranda in a fight. I had to choose Miranda. I may down the line, have to take a mid-game save backup I did and play it through with Jack.

Is there a way you can get MaleShep to sleep with all of them? Polygamy FTW.


#379

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

I agree and it was annoyingly placed as well. I wrapped up a lengthy mission (in this case, miranda's loyalty quest), went through a nice immersive rp moment, we get on the shit and before I can even save, I'm throwing into a decision making moment (i'm currently trying to wrap all things before going to the IFF, with all loyalty/sub quests done and no romance started) with Jack and Miranda in a fight. I had to choose Miranda. I may down the line, have to take a mid-game save backup I did and play it through with Jack.

Is there a way you can get MaleShep to sleep with all of them? Polygamy FTW.
I didn't have that issue because I was way into Paragon by that point. The Paragon (and probably renegade) charm option lets you get through the fight without choosing either one of them. You later have a similar event with Tali and Legion, they don't have much if anything to do with the romance options, but choosing one over the other causes the forsaken one to lose loyalty.

As for sleeping with all of them? From what I know, if you sleep with Jack first, then after you beat the game you can "continue" playing for the side missions, and during that time you break it off with her, and pickup the other girls one after the other. Jack is the only one that will never reconcile after you break off with her, so you can swap between Tali, Miranda, and Kelly (though I hear Kelly is actually a free romance, and does not actually effect the real romances, as weird as that is. ) This is only what I heard, not done it myself.

Also, you can call the romance optins up to spend time with you in the captains room after beating the game. Kelly even dances for you in stripper gear, and sits on your lap. :shocked:


#380

General Specific

General Specific

For the record, on both of my playthroughs so far, I blew up the collector base.

Also, my usual team consisted of Garrus and Zaeed/Thane.

My general philosophy being that it's better to take them out at range. Though if they do make it up to us, we still have the needed tools.

I did use Tali quite a bit for her combat drone abilities.

The rest were situational at best or not used at all outside their respective loyalty missions.

Overall impressions:

Garrus - still very much the same as he was in ME1. Kicks-ass, takes names, and puts bullets in the annoying ones. Exactly what I want him to be. Almost let him shoot Harkin and probably will on my full renegade run through.

Tali- romanced her hoping to see what a Quarrian looked like, didn't get to, but still like her a lot. Getting to actually go to the Migrant Fleet was pretty cool. Again, voice acting is great and I'm pretty loyal to her for sticking with me through everything. Plus, she's got the "vas Normandy" designation now, so probably gonna stay through 3 as well.

Miranda - very hot, esp. in the black suit. Otherwise kinda blah. May romance her in a later playthrough.

Jacob - just very blah. He's former alliance, so was snapping to faster than anyone else, but he didn't have any intersting abilities, so I didn't have much interest. Easily my least used team member.

Mordin - hilarious. but not very useful to me in the missions. May be worth it to take him along just to hear all his various quips.

Grunt - strong warroir for short-range fighting, but otherwise not much use to me. I actually liked Wrex better.

Thane - good for long-range support, interesting backstory. Romanced him with my femshep and he gave me a nickname that I thought was kinda cool. I'll probably try to romance Kelly on the next femshep playthrough.

Jack - got tired of the ultra bitch mode. I get it, she had a traumatizing childhood, but instead of dealing with it and possibly growing as a character she just bitches at everything. Hopefully, if she makes a return in 3 you'll be able to either have her harness her anger into even greater power or get a grip, untwist her panties, and get over it already.

Samara - very cool character. I really like her backstory and insight into Asari culture. Have not yet tried using Morinth yet, but will likely do it on my full renegade playthrough.

Legion - had the same problem with getting him late that everyone else mentions. Because he is acquired so late in the game that I never really used him for much. He could be a great choice with the long range I like and the drone abilities, but I just don't have the time to utilize him properly. Second playthrough, I didn't even activate him until after I had finished off the collectors.


#381



Gill Kaiser

Just to keep the discussion going, what did you think of all the squad members during the playthrough? Who did you find yourself focusing on and such? Here is a little list from most interesting to me, to least.

Garrus - I already mentioned him. Just his demeanor, his very cold morals and get shit done attitude, mixed with some humor and wit on occasion.

Grunt - The guy really grew on me, even more then Wrex did in the first game. He became pretty much a stable of my main squad. Not sure, but I just really liked playing with him.

Legion - He was the last guy I got on my team, and frankly I wish Bioware made it so you could recruit him before starting the IFF countdown. Something about the way he talks and how his face expresses just made me smile, I got goose bumps when I told him to blow up the Herectic base, and he opens his flaps, eyes turn red, and he says "ACKNOWLEDGED" before getting to work without hesitation.

Tali - It is Tali, you all know why people love her.

Mordin - The guy is just fun to listen to, not only on the ship, but also in combat. He has a lot of great skills that really help when needed also, though I rarely took him with me.

Jack - Jack sits in the middle of my interest. I liked using her sometimes just for Shockwave, but it was rare and only when I knew the next mission was going to be a firefight with a lot of guys (If only I took her to the derelict reaper, damn that one was rather intense). As cliche as it was and filled with angst, I liked her story too.

Miranda - Other then being "Sexy" in that black jumpsuit, I really didn't enjoy having her on my team. She had some good squad bonuses and biotics, but I just found more effectiveness in other fighters.

Thane - I feel kind of bad for Thane, because I actually liked his personality, but I got him so late in the game that I never really gathered a lot of interest in him. I already had my "assassin" squad pretty much locked down. What is worst is the only mission I took him with, was his loyalty mission, which involved zero combat.

Samara - She fell into the same trap as Thane, I got her just before going to get the IFF, so she had the least amount of time working with me, and just like Thane, her loyalty mission involved pretty much zero combat. I used her as the biotic over Jack in the last mission more over the fact I worried turning down Jack in the romance angle screwed up her loyalty, making her prone to die.

Zaeed - Didn't really care for him. He is great when fighting, but BioWare made it so you can't even talk with him on the ship, rather you can just hear him ramble about stuff or compact trash in the background, making my desire to bring him along way to low. I like talking with my crew and the only time I got that was in the loyalty mission.

Jacob - Just like Kaiden in the first game, I felt he was rather forgettable to my male Shepard character. I just didn't have any desire to use him after doing his loyalty mission, I just had more fun and interesting choices.
I think you're doing a disservice to Miranda and Thane, here.

Miranda is probably one of the most useful squadmates in terms of abilities, which you especially see if you play in Insanity. She is able to strip all three defense types with Warp and Overload, she has a crowd control ability with Crippling Slam, and her class skill benefits the whole team.

Thane does insane damage since his class skill ends up adding +50% damage output, and his shredder ammo can add +70% more to organic targets. He's one of the best for fighting Collectors because he can strip their biotic shields with Warp, then eviscerate them with his sniper rifle and shredder ammo.


#382

Calleja

Calleja

Yeah, Miranda was always on my team, those squad bonuses were too awesome to give up.


#383

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

I think you're doing a disservice to Miranda and Thane, here.
Those were merely my opinions. I don't have the inclination to play on Insanity, so that does not mean much to me. Thane came to late in the game for me to really get into his character, and Miranda was good, but I felt others were simply better, with or without the squad bonuses.


#384



WolfOfOdin

If you play after the credits and talk to Legion more,
he's ton more interesting as a character. The way his faceplate animates actually conveys a lot of emotion for him, and his conversation with EDI is adorable.


#385

LordRendar

LordRendar

Did anyone here kill Samara in her loyalty mission? Because if you do,her daughter will join you instead.


#386

General Specific

General Specific

If you play after the credits and talk to Legion more,
he's ton more interesting as a character. The way his faceplate animates actually conveys a lot of emotion for him, and his conversation with EDI is adorable.
Also, he occasionally breaks out into The Robot. Seems to be random, though.


#387

Calleja

Calleja

If you play after the credits and talk to Legion more,
he's ton more interesting as a character. The way his faceplate animates actually conveys a lot of emotion for him, and his conversation with EDI is adorable.
Also, he occasionally breaks out into The Robot. Seems to be random, though.
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....you mean the DANCE!?


#388

bhamv3

bhamv3

No the disease. He breaks out into the robot like a human might break out into hives. :D

Yes the dance. :D




#390

Frank

Frankie Williamson

I'm Frankie and Legion is my favorite character...on the citadel.


#391

D

Dubyamn

Hell no, I blew that shit up, and told TIM that I'm running things, and if he's lucky he can come along for the ride. Then I hung up on him.

Felt great, too.

That's the great thing about Cerberus. You can't tell if they're good or bad, or anything in between. Their ideals sound good, and in a galaxy of so many people sitting on their ass, it's great to see a group being proactive. But they're so damn secretive that it's impossible to tell what their real goals are. If Cerberus were made too powerful, what would keep them from steamrolling the rest of the galaxy once the reapers were taken care of?


If there's a galaxy left, anyway.
Hopefully Shepard'll still be there to take them down. I mean even with the collector base they are still only human and can be stopped with a few bullets in a few deserving skulls.

The reapers on the other hand have no goals beyond our extinction and can't be taken down without new technology and even more ships.


#392

Dei

Dei

ME3 has the potential to be so amazing. Must be a headache making consequences for so many different combinations of choices between the first and second game though. :eek:


#393

Frank

Frankie Williamson

That's a real worry. If they're going to basically trivialize everything from the first two games the same way they did pretty much everything from the first game it'll make for a pretty weak sauce ending.


#394

General Specific

General Specific

Also, did you see the number of Reapers at the end there? If it would take all of the humans in existance to make 1 human reaper, how many Protheans/Collectors were there? Makes me wonder how we're gonna stop all of those. Maybe we could use a Mac to upload a virus into their unprotected network...


#395

D

Dubyamn

Also, did you see the number of Reapers at the end there? If it would take all of the humans in existance to make 1 human reaper, how many Protheans/Collectors were there? Makes me wonder how we're gonna stop all of those. Maybe we could use a Mac to upload a virus into their unprotected network...
Protheans were unusable as reaper making material. They didn't go into why or anything but it was said that they weren't usable.

And beyond that it has been said that the Reapers have been doing this for at least a million years. Time and Time again coming in and wiping out galactic civilization which is why they call it a "cycle of extinction"

Frankie said:
That's a real worry. If they're going to basically trivialize everything from the first two games the same way they did pretty much everything from the first game it'll make for a pretty weak sauce ending.
I thought they did a great job of working in the decisions from the last game. I mean many of the big dicisions have been hinted to be absolutely galaxy changing.


#396

Calleja

Calleja

From what I've heard they're planning on making the changes in ME1 have solid repercussions in 3, even if you didn't really see them in 2 yet.


#397

General Specific

General Specific

Also, did you see the number of Reapers at the end there? If it would take all of the humans in existance to make 1 human reaper, how many Protheans/Collectors were there? Makes me wonder how we're gonna stop all of those. Maybe we could use a Mac to upload a virus into their unprotected network...
Protheans were unusable as reaper making material. They didn't go into why or anything but it was said that they weren't usable.

And beyond that it has been said that the Reapers have been doing this for at least a million years. Time and Time again coming in and wiping out galactic civilization which is why they call it a "cycle of extinction"
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Well, yes, but as we see from the human Reaper, the new one seems to take on the form of whatever life was harvested for it. So, something that looked like the current reapers was harvested to create the ones we see. At the end, there are literally thousands of the things. If all of the humans in the galaxy would be needed to make 1, then some previous race must have been breeding like Krogans to supply the numbers needed to create that many.


#398

Calleja

Calleja

What the hell are you going on about... "all humans in the galaxy"?! They literally never said that, they had taken hundreds of thousands and were not even halfway there, yes, and EVI wasn't sure how many more they needed just that it was a vast number... in the millions. Not the ENTIRE human race....

Also, the only Reaper we've really seen is Sovereign, they hinted at the other reapers probably each looking differently, depending on the race used to build them. They may be thousands of them, but they don't all look like Sovereign.


#399

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

And beyond that it has been said that the Reapers have been doing this for at least a million years. Time and Time again coming in and wiping out galactic civilization which is why they call it a "cycle of extinction"
This is actually one of the things I am most curious about. The human-reaper was taking on physical traits of the race that forged it, which to me was making it out like the reapers don't all look like Sovereign, but instead are a massive collective of various looking reapers that were forged over millions of years during each cycle, as they took certain dominate races and broke them down into bio-metal.

Then we find the derelict reaper, and it looks just like Sovereign. We see Harbinger, and he looks just like Sovereign. Finally we see the last shot with all the reapers coming from dark space, and all of them look like Sovereign, basically giant robot space squids. It makes me wonder a few things, like are those space squids the race that actually built the reapers? And if so, did they really teach the reapers how to reproduce by literally turning organic matter into metal? Weird skill to give a giant robot.


#400

Frank

Frankie Williamson

My theory is that the space squid look is a kind of shell with the reaper itself inside. Might explain why the human reaper was only going to be like 10 stories tall whereas Sovereign was 100 times that size and why they all look the same.


#401

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

My theory is that the space squid look is a kind of shell with the reaper itself inside. Might explain why the human reaper was only going to be like 10 stories tall whereas Sovereign was 100 times that size and why they all look the same.
I don't know. The size seems like it could be based more on the size of the origin race. The "space squids" could have been massive, meaning the process to bio-metal would have made the reaper body massive.

Also, if the space squid look is just a "shell" why does all communication with the reapers show the outer shell in holograms? Why was no inner-construct found inside the wreckage of Sovereign OR the derelict reaper? We know the derelict reaper was still "alive" since it was converting the scientists using indoctrination. Also, remember that Saren and the Heretic Geth lived inside Sovereign, so it seems odd they would make no mention of another force "driving" the shell.


#402

Bowielee

Bowielee

I really need to make time to finish up the game so I can read the spoiler tagged posts.


#403



WolfOfOdin

I'm hoping Legion's
faction of the Geth show up and save a ton of people in M3, because they really seem like they're actually rather nice, if a bit odd due to the nature of their hive mind.

Onto the Reapers;

Keep in mind the Human-Reaper was more or less a fetus/larval stage. For all we know, after a reaper has finished 'maturing' it may automatically convert into the space-squid shape after it reconfigures and the Reapers come to claim it and induct it into their fold.


#404

ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

I'm hoping Legion's
faction of the Geth show up and save a ton of people in M3, because they really seem like they're actually rather nice, if a bit odd due to the nature of their hive mind.

Keep in mind the Human-Reaper was more or less a fetus/larval stage. For all we know, after a reaper has finished 'maturing' it may automatically convert into the space-squid shape after it reconfigures and the Reapers come to claim it and induct it into their fold.
Good call on the Reapers, that may very well be it. They are most likely not static machines, more so considering what makes them.

Now as for Legion and the Geth.

I have a feeling that is going to be one of the big choices of the next game. A large chunk of the game I theorize will take place beyond the Perseus Veil, and will involve visiting the Quarian/Geth homeworld and taking part in events that were hinted in the Tali loyalty mission (What you do during that mission may even shape what is happening). You then have the chance to help the Quarians take the homeworld from the Geth, help the Geth destroy the Quarian flotilla, or help them finally put aside the ages of animosity to live together once again as equals. The last mission will be like a massive mixture of the ending of Mass Effect and the ending of Dragon Age.

Just to explain what I mean (and again this is a theory, it may not be like this at all), you will have the ability to do missions for various races, factions, and planets in order to gain further loyalty and support to take out the Reapers, similar to Dragon Age is how you did missions for certain factions in each area that shaped your final army. It will be more organic though in that based on the factions you make loyal, the whole outcome of the final mission can change, much like buying the special shields saved your squad member down in the engine room during ME2. Imagine if you will the Normandy SR2 flying towards the Reapers with the full backing of the Alliance and Citidel forces, suddenly as you are being blasted, the Geth armada or the Quarian Flotilla (or even both!) appear out of hyper-space and join the fray, saving your ass to fight on towards Harbinger (who I assume will be the big boss). Other things you did in ME1 and ME2 will even bring in other forces to fight for you, like the Rachni if you saved the queen in ME1.

I am totally excited at the possibilities. The last mission of ME2 I felt was a great design because of how dynamic it can be, and I can't wait to see how they add to it.


#405

General Specific

General Specific

What the hell are you going on about... "all humans in the galaxy"?! They literally never said that, they had taken hundreds of thousands and were not even halfway there, yes, and EVI wasn't sure how many more they needed just that it was a vast number... in the millions. Not the ENTIRE human race....

Also, the only Reaper we've really seen is Sovereign, they hinted at the other reapers probably each looking differently, depending on the race used to build them. They may be thousands of them, but they don't all look like Sovereign.
When you first enter the collector ship early on, they state that they are going to target Earth. And the larvae at then end is said to have taken "Hundreds of thousands" of the colonist just to get to that point. It's a skeletal superstructure that ends just below the rib cage, which wasn't fully formed. It'd take millions to make a complete skeleton and millions more to flesh it out. So yeah, maybe not every human for one, but there's not enough to make as many Reapers as shown at the end.


#406

Jay

Jay

I really need to make time to finish up the game so I can read the spoiler tagged posts.
Take your time, it's a great game. When I finished it, I wept... for there shall be a hole in my life until the 3rd one comes out.... speakign of which... any release dates yet????


#407

D

Dubyamn

I really need to make time to finish up the game so I can read the spoiler tagged posts.
Take your time, it's a great game. When I finished it, I wept... for there shall be a hole in my life until the 3rd one comes out.... speakign of which... any release dates yet????[/QUOTE]

According to Wikipedia some time in 2011. No more information that I can find on sites not blocked by work.


#408

Jay

Jay

2011???? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU


#409

General Specific

General Specific

I really need to make time to finish up the game so I can read the spoiler tagged posts.
I wonder if you can stack spoilers?
Yes, apparently so. :cool:


#410

Jay

Jay

Any Rule 34 found on Miranda yet?


#411

General Specific

General Specific

Any Rule 34 found on Miranda yet?
Have you romanced her? That's pretty much Rule 34 right there.



#412

Jay

Jay

Any Rule 34 found on Miranda yet?
Have you romanced her? That's pretty much Rule 34 right there.

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Tried to... after the end game as I tried to "stay loyal" to my lady in ME1.... then created a new profile.... but realized that the storylines wouldn't progress.... for ANY of the romance options!!! QQ


#413

Calleja

Calleja

No, rule 34 is about porn.. that's not porn. That's less than you see in a freaking episode of Friends being rerun at noon. That's making out with clothes on.


#414

LordRendar

LordRendar

Well,its better then what you got with Tali.

So, who did the nasty with Kelly Chambers?


#415

D

Dubyamn

You don't actually do the nasty with Yeoman Chambers. You invite her up to your room where you don't get the paramour achievement, you don't turn down the picture of your old love and you can have her snuggle on the bed, do a dance or make out on the sofa.


#416

bhamv3

bhamv3

It's the only F/F option for my female Shepard though, so it'll have to do.

Unless I assume Garrus is a girl. Which, I note, is not completely impossible.


#417

Bowielee

Bowielee

I skipped all the romance options. I have a universe to save. :p


#418

Dei

Dei

My Renegade Shepard was too busy pining over Kaiden to pursue romance. :p


#419

bhamv3

bhamv3

Okay, who came in here looking for Wrex/Shepard fanfiction?


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