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BananaHands and ElJuski Judge Your Pop Culture

Nov 28, 2011#1

BananaHands

Spoiler Alert:

You're wrong.

Did you really think we weren't paying attention? I mean, honestly? We've sat idly by as you created a thread about My Little Pony. We ignored your post about the finale of Breaking Bad being 'the best thing on television'. We even assumed you were kidding when you posted all that nonsense about Skyrim.

But no longer. Our opinions... nay, facts... reign supreme. Now, just relax as ElJuski and I educate you on what really matters.

Nov 28, 2011#2

Charlie Don't Surf

The top 5 TV shows of the last 10 years:

The Wire
Breaking Bad
Mad Men
Arrested Development
The Shield

peace

Nov 28, 2011#3

HCGLNS

BananaHands said:
Spoiler Alert:

You're wrong.

Did you really think we weren't paying attention? I mean, honestly? We've sat idly by as you created a thread about My Little Pony. We ignored your post about the finale of Breaking Bad being 'the best thing on television'. We even assumed you were kidding when you posted all that nonsense about Skyrim.

But no longer. Our opinions... nay, facts... reign supreme. Now, just relax as ElJuski and I educate you on what really matters.

I figured the two of you would be knee deep in dickerdoodles by now.

Nov 28, 2011#4

ElJuski

Charlie Don't Surf said:
The top 5 TV shows of the last 10 years:

The Wire
Breaking Bad
Mad Men
Arrested Development
The Shield

peace

you obviously forgot Two and a Half Men.......dumbass

Nov 28, 2011#5

BananaHands

Charlie Don't Surf said:
The top 5 TV shows of the last 10 years:

The Wire
Breaking Bad
Mad Men
Arrested Development
The Shield

peace

Mad Men? More like, watch grass grow up until the fourth season. You also excluded The Simpsons.

Nov 28, 2011#6

Shegokigo

Pop Culture advice from Juski?

You're kidding right?

Nov 28, 2011#7

ElJuski

Shegokigo said:
Pop Culture advice from Juski?

You're kidding right?

BITCH PLEASE

Nov 28, 2011#8

ThatNickGuy

BananaHands said:
Mad Men? More like, watch grass grow up until the fourth season. You also excluded The Simpsons.

Simpsons hasn't been worth watching for about ten years.

Nov 28, 2011#9

Shegokigo

ElJuski said:
BITCH PLEASE

I'd take pop culture advice from you the day I took dating advice from Charlie.

Nov 28, 2011#10

ElJuski

ThatNickGuy said:
Simpsons hasn't been worth watching for about ten years.

Fifteen, but

Nov 28, 2011#11

Charlie Don't Surf

yeah, name me the good episode of the Simpsons made since 2001, I'll wait

Nov 28, 2011#12

ElJuski

Shegokigo said:
I'd take pop culture advice from you the day I took dating advice from Charlie.

You're missing out

on not bein lame

BOOSH

Nov 28, 2011#13

BananaHands

I'll agree with you all completely on the Simpsons thing. I have a firm belief that no show is worth watching after its fourth season.

Nov 28, 2011#14

ElJuski

except for the Simpsons until it's 8th.
Added at: 21:36
also, that show with the space cowboy Nathan Fillion is overrated

Nov 28, 2011#15

Shegokigo

ElJuski said:
You're missing out

on not bein lame

BOOSH

Fine Fine, prove me wrong:

Judge:

Firefly
against
Jersey Shore

Edit: (Just saw your previous post, you completely proved me right)

Nov 28, 2011#16

HCGLNS

I'd rather grant Shego diplomatic immunity after forcing her to listen to the upcoming Nickleback/Justin Bieber Very Canadian Christmas special for 9-3/4 hrs than listen to the three of you saps talk about culture.

Nov 28, 2011#17

ElJuski

the timing on our simul-post was perfect. Firefly definitely over Jersey Shore. I mean, seriously, Jersey Shore!? I'd rather watch BananaHands make love to his old hula-hooping roomate.

SIDE NOTE: I when on a date with a girl out here in DC who got a Jane Austen novel signed by one of those d-bags.

Nov 28, 2011#18

BananaHands

ElJuski said:
the timing on our simul-post was perfect. Firefly definitely over Jersey Shore. I mean, seriously, Jersey Shore!? I'd rather watch BananaHands make love to his old hula-hooping roomate.

SIDE NOTE: I when on a date with a girl out here in DC who got a Jane Austen novel signed by one of those d-bags.

Didn't YOU get her pregnant?

Nov 28, 2011#19

ThatNickGuy

Nov 28, 2011#20

Charlie Don't Surf

HCGLNS said:
I'd rather grant Shego diplomatic immunity after forcing her to listen to the upcoming Nickleback/Justin Bieber Very Canadian Christmas special for 9-3/4 hrs than listen to the three of you saps talk about culture.

cool good ting we have you tied up and are forcing you to read this thread

Nov 28, 2011#21

ElJuski

BananaHands said:
W
Didn't YOU get her pregnant?

THERE WAS NEVER ANY BABY

Nov 28, 2011#22

BananaHands

Firefly is only overrated in the sense that you have to hear EVERYONE talk about how great it is. I'd put it in the same category as Freaks and Geeks. Great show, ruined by people always talking about how great it is. If you want a great one-season show? Clone High.
Added at: 21:42

ElJuski said:
THERE WAS NEVER ANY BABY

JUS SAYIN

Nov 28, 2011#23

ElJuski

Freaks and Geeks is fantastic, but I can understand why someone would have to step away from the internet and or a college to really appreciate it for what it is. Firefly has a handful of good episodes--and that fantastic "Out of Gas" episode, which is like, possibly one of my life favorites--but really so much of it just slags. And all that fake space-swearing garbage is so lame. But that's probably because I haven't stepped away from the internet for a quick minute.

Nov 28, 2011#24

ThatNickGuy

Wait just a gorram minute. What the frak are you talking about?

Nov 28, 2011#25

Shegokigo

ElJuski said:
the timing on our simul-post was perfect. Firefly definitely over Jersey Shore. I mean, seriously, Jersey Shore!? I'd rather watch BananaHands make love to his old hula-hooping roomate.

Really? I had you pegged as the Jersey Shore type for sure.

Nov 28, 2011#26

BananaHands

ElJuski said:
And all that fake space-swearing garbage is so lame.

Yeah, on that level... if I head the word "Frack" one more frackin' time....
Added at: 21:47

ThatNickGuy said:
Wait just a gorram minute. What the frak are you talking about?

Nov 28, 2011#27

ElJuski

ThatNickGuy said:
Wait just a gorram minute. What the frak are you talking about?

Talking about THAT bullshit.

Shegokigo said:
Really? I had you pegged as the Jersey Shore type for sure.

No, I'm not a hipster, and I'm not a douchebag.
Added at: 21:47
also IM THE CHAIN OF RUTTIN COMMAND HERPDERP ILL BE IN MY BUNK DERPDEDOO
Added at: 21:48
it's the internet nerd version of idiots quoting Borat

Nov 28, 2011#28

BananaHands

Can we talk about Adele for a bit? I fucking hate Adele. I'd rather listen to Lady Gaga's Alejandro 50 times in a row.

Nov 28, 2011#29

Charlie Don't Surf

you know, fuck everyone with a rhino's dick that quoted Chappelle's Show and made Dave Chappelle hate white people so much he quit show business.

Nov 28, 2011#30

ElJuski

I've actually slipped past the whole Adele thing, from back in last album when all the hipsters and Rolling Stone were slobberin' her knob, to now when every half-assed college girl is all slobberin' her knob.

Nov 28, 2011#31

Charlie Don't Surf

BananaHands said:
Can we talk about Adele for a bit? I fucking hate Adele. I'd rather listen to Lady Gaga's Alejandro 50 times in a row.

yeah

Nov 28, 2011#32

ElJuski

though Charlie we know it was the Black Crusaders.

Nov 28, 2011#33

BananaHands

Charlie Don't Surf said:
you know, fuck everyone with a rhino's dick that quoted Chappelle's Show and made Dave Chappelle hate white people so much he quit show business.

Stamp of approval right there.

ElJuski said:
I've actually slipped past the whole Adele thing, from back in last album when all the hipsters and Rolling Stone were slobberin' her knob, to now when every half-assed college girl is all slobberin' her knob.

Also, having my finger on the pulse of the hipster community, I can tell you that they're not all about Adele. It's mainly all those girls we've hated in high school signing along with a girl they probably used to pick on in high school. We get it. You're overweight and proud... yet why are you always singing about heart break?

Nov 28, 2011#34

ElJuski

Also, 500 Days of Summer is indie-hipster trash.

Nov 28, 2011#35

ThatNickGuy

So, this thread is basically trashing this, that, and the other thing?

We get enough of that as it is from fade and Charlie.

Nov 28, 2011#36

Null

Because heartbreak is inspirational for writing in a way that happiness never will be. Not necessarily good writing, but basically if you're happy and content, you don't need to create.

Nov 28, 2011#37

BananaHands

ElJuski said:
Also, 500 Days of Summer is indie-hipster trash.

For those who aren't familiar with the term "Manic Pixie Dream Girl", please refer to this movie.

Nov 28, 2011#38

Null

BananaHands said:
For those who aren't familiar with the term "Manic Pixie Dream Girl", please refer to this movie.

Also, Elizabethtown, Garden State, Breakfast at Tiffany's, and Almost Famous.

Nov 28, 2011#39

BananaHands

ThatNickGuy said:
So, this thread is basically trashing this, that, and the other thing?

We get enough of that as it is from fade and Charlie.

Fair enough. I get rolling on things I hate and the next thing I know I wake up with fifty angry posts about the Kardashians.

Okay... things I enjoy: Boardwalk Empire, The Muppets, Broken Social Scene, the movie Visioneers and the Everyday Italian with Giada DeLaurentis

Nov 28, 2011#40

ElJuski

Null said:
Because heartbreak is inspirational for writing in a way that happiness never will be. Not necessarily good writing, but basically if you're happy and content, you don't need to create.

lol wut
Added at: 22:02
Ken Burns documentaries are always poignant and insightful. I particularly love his Civil War stuff. Also, Community-- six seasons and a movie!

Nov 28, 2011#41

ThatNickGuy

BananaHands said:
Fair enough. I get rolling on things I hate and the next thing I know I wake up with fifty angry posts about the Kardashians.

Okay... things I enjoy: Boardwalk Empire, The Muppets, Broken Social Scene, the movie Visioneers and the Everyday Italian with Giada DeLaurentis

The teacher part of me liked this message as a form of positive reinforcement. Keep it up.

Things that I've enjoyed lately:
-The Muppets (obviously; see my awesome avatar)
-Jeff Smith's RASL (want to try a new sci-fi comic? Check it out.)
-Asterios Polyp by Dave Mazzucchelli (won several Eisners a few years ago, along with a lot of raving reviews; I'm halfway through it and can definitely agree)
-Walking Dead
-Mogworld by Yahtzee (pretty fun, though it's not as non-stop hilarious as I expected)

Nov 28, 2011#42

BananaHands

I like her methods of cooking...

Nov 28, 2011#43

SeraRelm

Nov 28, 2011#44

BananaHands

Also, I have to pull the ol' foot out of my mouth. As much as I ragged on The Walking Dead, the last episode really made up for it.

I just have to say, I'm extremely bitter that shows like Glee and Whitney are coasting nicely while Community is trying desperately to hang on.

Nov 28, 2011#45

ElJuski

ILL BE IN MY BUNK

Nov 28, 2011#46

Charlie Don't Surf

ElJuski said:
Also, 500 Days of Summer is indie-hipster trash.

OHHHH HEY FUCK YOU DUDE
Added at: 16:14
also if you want to see manic pixie dream girl, watch the original, Annie Hall, pffffff

Nov 28, 2011#47

Null

ElJuski said:
lol wut
Added at: 22:02

You don't do art when you're happy and content. Discontent is the driving impulse for creative effort, whether it's personal demons, financial or personal obligations, or the need to express something.

Nov 28, 2011#48

BananaHands

Null said:
You don't do art when you're happy and content. Discontent is the driving impulse for creative effort, whether it's personal demons, financial or personal obligations, or the need to express something.

AHEM.

Added at: 22:18
Also ElJuski... you know that thing that happened to you while the Ewok song played? I think this would be a great substitute.

Nov 28, 2011#49

ElJuski

Sorry man, that's utter bullshit that only "dis-content" drives passion. There is no evidence for that, and plenty contrary. It's just as stupid as saying the only people that create art are constipated. Only people that can't poop are forced to create TRUE ART.

B...I hear you, man. I hear you.

Charlie...sorry, that movie was so laborious. "Let's talk about the Smiths!" "Let me tell my problems to my precocious younger sister!" "DANCE NUMBERRRR"

Nov 28, 2011#50

Charlie Don't Surf

I'm not going to defend the younger sister or the faux-mentary piece OR the random French movie thing, BUT I wanna hear you say the "Expectations vs. Reality" scene was trash

Nov 28, 2011#51

ElJuski

I know, and actually, I believe a recent AVClub piece was really gunning for that scene too. Honestly I haven't seen the movie since so I can't really say. But I do know people are talking about it as an Awesome Thing.

Nov 28, 2011#52

BananaHands

Oh, you and that AV Club. If they did an article praising The Hills, you'd watch through it.

Nov 28, 2011#53

ElJuski

nah, man. Actually, my relationship with the AV Club has been tense of late, since I really don't like their fresh crop of TV people.
Added at: 23:23
not to mention they already watch things I would never watch, like The Amazing Race and Star Trek

Nov 28, 2011#54

Charlie Don't Surf

AV Club's classic TV stuff is pretty great. I don't mind when they check in on some random TV show to see about what the hubub is

Nov 28, 2011#55

Mathias

Null said:
Because heartbreak is inspirational for writing in a way that happiness never will be. Not necessarily good writing, but basically if you're happy and content, you don't need to create.

LuLWut?
Added at: 21:36

Null said:
You don't do art when you're happy and content. Discontent is the driving impulse for creative effort, whether it's personal demons, financial or personal obligations, or the need to express something.

uh, no.
I know plenty of people that paint as simply a form of relaxation - just like listening to music or going on a bike ride. You most certainly can be happy and content and 'do' art. I'd argue that creating for the sake of creating is probably the most noble and pure form of art.

But I digress. You are, after all, a sad panda.

Nov 28, 2011#56

LittleSin

BananaHands said:
AHEM.

Added at: 22:18
Also ElJuski... you know that thing that happened to you while the Ewok song played? I think this would be a great substitute.

I just have to point out that Tiny Tim had severe OCD, taking a dozen showers per day and was terrified of women.
So...yeh. He was a little fucked up.
Added at: 04:40
Also, I'm not agreeing with Null but I will say that the best art comes from longing or some sort of discontent. Even painting for relaxation implies that there is stress to begin with...so that's a form of discontent.
However, I'm sure there are plenty of happy people out there that create art, I've met them! I find that their art lacks any...meaning though. "Hey! I painted these flowers and pretty birds in a tree because they look nice together and stuff lol."
Art doesn't have to have deep meaning...but don't expect to engage a person with out something behind it.

Nov 28, 2011#57

Bumble the Boy Wonder

What did you think of 3-South

Nov 28, 2011#58

Cajungal

ElJuski said:
I've actually slipped past the whole Adele thing, from back in last album when all the hipsters and Rolling Stone were slobberin' her knob, to now when every half-assed college girl is all slobberin' her knob.

I don't know any Adele songs yet. Something about her troubles me. It's that I never hear much about how talented she is. It's always one of my female friends talking about how amazing it is that a women who looks like her is famous. If the most memorable thing about her is that she managed to get famous without slipping into a size 0...

That's not the REAL reason I haven't checked her out, actually. I just think it's weird that the one thing people I know are stressing is, "She's famous AND has meat on her bones?! Golly!" sounding as amazed as if they were watching a quadriplegic stand up and tap dance. Maybe I'll head over to youtube so I can finally see what the fuss is about.

Nov 28, 2011#59

Shegokigo

Adele, you should learn. For shore.

Nov 28, 2011#60

Cajungal

It now annoys me that I've heard more about her dress size than her voice. I like it.

Nov 28, 2011#61

Chad Sexington

I love the bluesy quality of her voice in that song. I'm generally tepid about her otherwise... I was impressed at first but I only enjoy a handful of songs. That said, the ones I enjoy I really think are amazing.

Nov 28, 2011#62

Shegokigo

I judge a singer 100% soley on the uniqueness of voice. I don't care about the lyrics they write, the music they have playing in the backround or what they're like in life. 100% solely on the uniqueness of voice. There are few who register for me as "greats".

Louis Armstrong, Sinatra, David Bowie, Amy Winehouse, 50 Cent (Yeah I'm serious), Loreena McKinnet, Adele, and a few others that are currently escaping me offhand.

Nov 28, 2011#63

DarkAudit

'60s glasses. Fedora. Pretentiously good headphones. Steely Dan mocking the world on the iPhone.

Sigh. I'm a hipster. But it's also going on 1am in an empty hotel lobby. How can I be a hipster if there's no one else to be a hipster at?

Nov 28, 2011#64

Null

I like some of Adele's songs. "Someone like you" is lovely.

Edit: I hadn't heard of her until I saw her on Graham Norton a few months ago.

Nov 28, 2011#65

Shegokigo

Nov 28, 2011#66

Cajungal

Shegokigo said:
I judge a singer 100% soley on the uniqueness of voice. I don't care about the lyrics they write, the music they have playing in the backround or what they're like in life. 100% solely on the uniqueness of voice. There are few who register for me as "greats".
Louis Armstrong, Sinatra, David Bowie, Amy Winehouse, 50 Cent (Yeah I'm serious), Loreena McKinnet, Adele, and a few others that are currently escaping me offhand.

Tom Waits? Is it Tom Waits?!
...I freaking love Tom Waits. ^_^
Added at: 23:44

mr_thehun said:
I judge my singers based on bust size and what they eat for dinner. I couldn't care less if a Singer can actually sing.

I judge them based on whether or not I'd like to have a beer with them. Just like politicians.

Nov 29, 2011#67

makare

I love Rolling in the Deep it has survived after lots of plays on the radio, on my computer, on my ipod, and my tone deaf coworker singing it.. it is a good song.

Nov 29, 2011#68

The Record Industry

mr_thehun said:
I judge my singers based on bust size and what they eat for dinner. I couldn't care less if a Singer can actually sing.

We know...

Nov 29, 2011#69

bhamv3

Cajungal said:
I'd like to have a beer with them. Just like politicians.

I judge my politicians by how much smarter they are than I am. I don't want a guy just like me leading my country. I suck. I want a guy who's smart, who's read books, who's surrounded by other smart people and who's smart enough to listen to them.

Also, you can't judge my pop culture, I have none!

Nov 29, 2011#70

@Li3n

Shegokigo said:
I judge a singer 100% soley on the uniqueness of voice. I don't care about the lyrics they write, the music they have playing in the backround or what they're like in life. 100% solely on the uniqueness of voice.

Louis Armstrong, Sinatra, David Bowie, Amy Winehouse, 50 Cent (Yeah I'm serious), Loreena McKinnet, Adele, and a few others that are currently escaping me offhand.

So that's how i can make bitches not get pissed off when i call them 'hoes to their face...

....

BTW, what do you think of this guy, I wouldn't call him a good singer, but he does have a unique voice:

Nov 29, 2011#71

FBI

mr_thehun said:
I judge my politicians based on bust size and what they eat. I couldn't care less if they can politic. I guess thats the reason C-Span slowly turned into porn tube.

ಠ_ಠ

Nov 29, 2011#72

gargoyle_eva

Slightly off topic here, But I've had a stressful day and was thinking about having a drink. That video @lien posted, coupled with the bottle of whiskey that somehow appeared on my booze shelf can mean only 1 thing....The universe wants me to get drunk and listen to bluesy music. Look forward to my next post in the drunk and wasted thread in a few hours....

Nov 29, 2011#73

@Li3n

gargoyle_eva said:
That video @lien posted, coupled with the bottle of whiskey that somehow appeared on my booze shelf can mean only 1 thing....The universe wants me to get drunk and listen to bluesy music.

Erm... yes, the universe totally placed that bottle there and there's no reason to worry about the sound of someone typing coming from inside your closet right now...

Nov 29, 2011#74

ElJuski

everyone loves Tom Waits
Added at: 12:12
also, ugghghghghghhg all meaningful art does not come from discontent. Again, just like in the other thread, it's really disingenuous to presume where everyone's main muse comes from. There are plenty of people who have made Classics by not being some tortured soul. Some people actually actively ENJOY creating. I don't sit around going, ARRRGH KNIVES IN MY HEART MUST WRITE POEMS. Sometimes I go, Hey, I Want To Write Something.
REGARDLESS, there is a thread for that, and this thread is for me and BananaHands to praise or shit on your tastes. Pray us continue.

Nov 29, 2011#75

gargoyle_eva

need some cookies in there? You bring me jameson's I will treat you well.
Also..pop culture... Last CD I bought was Hypnotize by SOAD. Judge away bannajuice!

Nov 29, 2011#76

Charlie Don't Surf

DarkAudit said:
'60s glasses. Fedora. Pretentiously good headphones. Steely Dan mocking the world on the iPhone.

Sigh. I'm a hipster. But it's also going on 1am in an empty hotel lobby. How can I be a hipster if there's no one else to be a hipster at?

A fedora doesn't make you a hipster, it makes you a neckbeard

Nov 29, 2011#77

BananaHands

Unique voices you say?

Even hung out with this dude.

Nov 29, 2011#78

drifter

You're the one who stole their gear, aren't you? AREN'T YOU?

DarkAudit said:
'60s glasses. Fedora. Pretentiously good headphones. Steely Dan mocking the world on the iPhone.

Sigh. I'm a hipster. But it's also going on 1am in an empty hotel lobby. How can I be a hipster if there's no one else to be a hipster at?

By the by, are you pairing those Grados' with a portable amp? If you care that much about sound, it might be worth looking into. I've heard some good things about this one, and it won't break the bank.

Nov 29, 2011#79

BananaHands

drifter said:
You're the one who stole their gear, aren't you? AREN'T YOU?

Bwah ha ha ha!

Nov 29, 2011#80

North_Ranger

If you must know, I always considered the last seasons of Battlestar Galactica to be wholly pretentious bullcrap trying to say something deep and meaningful and existentialist. I mean, what the fuck was with Starbuck angel or the song that just so happens to have the coordinates for a planet that just so happens to be suitable for the Colonists after the battlestar was basically reduced to pieces of ablative shielding held together by chewing gum?

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the action, the issues of surviving in space and the quasi-ethnic atmosphere of the fleet, but whenever those goddamn sexbots started spinning a yarn about God I basically tuned out.

Nov 29, 2011#81

Null

To be fair, they're sexbots. They haven't got a lot to work with.

Nov 29, 2011#82

Bowielee

BananaHands said:
Unique voices you say?

Even hung out with this dude.

I wouldn't really call that voice unique. The lead singer sounds like the lead singer of Scissor Sisters, The Darkness, and Mika....

Nov 29, 2011#83

BananaHands

There comes a point where a show's characters can't develop any more and become stagnant. Then the writers come up with craaaazier methods of keeping people interested. Happened to Michael Scott. Happened to Starbuck. Happened to Liz Lemon. Is currently happening to Phil Dunphy.

Four seasons, man. After that you're just going to get writers (most of which aren't the originals) just sticking to the same formula.

Nov 29, 2011#84

BananaHands

Oh! Another example. Dark Tower? Four was ehh, dropped off after that.

Nov 29, 2011#85

Charlie Don't Surf

six seasons and a movie

Nov 29, 2011#86

ElJuski

mr_thehun said:
yeah well, only because they got there first.

I fucking love tom waits and sigur ross.

True story, the first mix cd I made for my wife was sigur ross and tom waits. She told me she took apart her cd player and put it back together again because she thought it was broken but then realized it was only because of my horrible taste in music.

What can I say, she likes Abba, I like Goglo Bordello (and Abba)

Gogol Bordello.

Nov 29, 2011#87

DarkAudit

drifter said:
By the by, are you pairing those Grados' with a portable amp? If you care that much about sound, it might be worth looking into. I've heard some good things about this one, and it won't break the bank.

Not... yet. But I've looked. Just swapped out the comfies for bowl pads this evening.

Nov 29, 2011#88

ElJuski

And again, B, The Simpsons had 8 and a half seasons worth of poignant, moving, delicious comedy gold.

Nov 29, 2011#89

Frankie Williamson

Seinfeld didn't even hit it's stride until season 4.

Nov 29, 2011#90

Frankie Williamson

Oh, and one more. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia continues to be one of the funniest shows ever to grace TV well into it's seventh season.

Nov 29, 2011#91

Bumble the Boy Wonder

ElJuski said:
And again, B, The Simpsons had 8 and a half seasons worth of poignant, moving, delicious comedy gold.

I like to think that after Hank Scorpio showed up, it was a slow descent from there.

Nov 29, 2011#92

MindDetective

This thread is feeling a bit derivative.

Nov 29, 2011#93

Bumble the Boy Wonder

You know what else felt a bit derivative?

Curb Your Enthusiasm.

Nov 29, 2011#94

BananaHands

Guys, I no longer want to be a jerk. I just saw The Muppets and have had all my faith in films restored.
Added at: 05:03
Well, until the next Kristen Stewart film, that's for sure.

Nov 29, 2011#95

makare

Snow white? but it looks totally badass!

Nov 29, 2011#96

BananaHands

Snow White? Which one?

Nov 29, 2011#97

makare

wait is she snow white in them both!?

Ok no it is just the huntsman one. I was referring to the one with kristen stewart.

Nov 29, 2011#98

BananaHands

Naaah, just the one. I just can't believe they're doing two Snow White films in the same year.

Nov 29, 2011#99

makare

I can't believe they cast her as the fairest anything. it is fair as in pretty not fair as in pale. .. at least that is what i always thought.

Nov 29, 2011#100

BananaHands

Seriously. Every time I think Kristen Stewart trying to be 'fair', this is what pops into my head.

Nov 30, 2011#101

Frankie Williamson

So, if he's a werewolf and he's a vampire, does that make her a zombie?

huh huh heh heh

Nov 30, 2011#102

Krisken

I read this thread, saw about Community is barely hanging on, and got mad all over again that Better Off Ted got canceled. Damn it.

Oh, and is this the thread where people rag on what other people like? 'Cause someone forgot to invite me.

Nov 30, 2011#103

ElJuski

Kristen Stewart was the protagonist in Lifetime movie version of the book Speak, which was great because the whole time I read that book I just had Kristen Stewart in my head.
Added at: 12:06
Better off Ted was pretty decent, but I doubt it would have gone anywhere after those two seasons. The second season was already really shaky. But you know what deserved a fourth season? VERONICA FUCKING MARS

Nov 30, 2011#104

Krisken

I did dig that show, but that new theme song was hard to get by. I mean, the old one wasn't great, but it didn't cause me to wish I was born deaf.

Nov 30, 2011#105

sixpackshaker

Smallville deserved an 11th season.

Nov 30, 2011#106

Frankie Williamson

sixpackshaker said:
Smallville deserved an 11th season.

Smallville didn't deserve a 1st.

Nov 30, 2011#107

BananaHands

I think I liked the first and second season. But I was young and thought the blonde was pretty.

Nov 30, 2011#108

makare

I never really watched Smallville. I thought the premise seemed good but from what I've heard it sucked. I hate it when that happens. Good idea bad execution I guess.

Nov 30, 2011#109

Frankie Williamson

All I remember about the first season of Smallville was that it was about kids who's parents were mean to them, so they got meteor powers and killed their parents before Clark stopped them. I think this was the basic plot for the 4-5 episodes I saw.

Nov 30, 2011#110

Gusto

By all accounts, I should have loved Smallville, but I couldn't even get through the first 2 seasons.

Nov 30, 2011#111

BananaHands

Kristin Kreuk was unbearable. I didn't mind the guy who played Lex, but the writing turned the show into a superhero soap opera.

Nov 30, 2011#112

Gusto

Yup. It were awful except for occasional Lex moments.

Nov 30, 2011#113

ElJuski

Krisken said:
I did dig that show, but that new theme song was hard to get by. I mean, the old one wasn't great, but it didn't cause me to wish I was born deaf.

Don't you dare ever besmirch the original Dandy Warhol's version of the Veronica Mars themesong.

Nov 30, 2011#114

SeraRelm

TV sucks in general.

Nov 30, 2011#115

Charlie Don't Surf

SeraRelm said:
TV sucks in general.

How I Met Your Mother, Sons of Anarchy, Modern Family, Happy Endings, Suburgatory, Parks & Recreation, Community, The Office, 30 Rock, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, The League, Archer, Justified, Homeland, Dexter, Boardwalk Empire, Treme, East Bound & Down, How to Make it in America, Bored to Death, Mad Men, Breaking Bad

Nov 30, 2011#116

Null

SeraRelm said:
TV sucks in general.

Your avatar's expression makes that 10 times funnier.

Nov 30, 2011#117

BananaHands

Null said:
Your avatar's expression makes that 10 times funnier.

Agreed. I read it as if Dr. Mrs. The Monarch said it.

Oh, and also, Venture Brothers? The only show I'll seriously schedule my time around.

Nov 30, 2011#118

SeraRelm

Charlie Don't Surf said:
*List of TV shows I don't care about*

And?

Nov 30, 2011#119

Charlie Don't Surf

If you think all those TV shows suck, then I have no idea

Nov 30, 2011#120

ThatNickGuy

I'm a little late to the table on this, but...

Smallville lasted ten seasons too long.

Nov 30, 2011#121

makare

Charlie Don't Surf said:
How I Met Your Mother, Sons of Anarchy, Modern Family, Happy Endings, Suburgatory, Parks & Recreation, Community, The Office, 30 Rock, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, The League, Archer, Justified, Homeland, Dexter, Boardwalk Empire, Treme, East Bound & Down, How to Make it in America, Bored to Death, Mad Men, Breaking Bad

I've only seen two of those shows and heard about a couple more... goddamn I am out of the pop culture loop.

Nov 30, 2011#122

ElJuski

Ugh, Dexter is so boring these days, Charlie. But it is fun television.

Nov 30, 2011#123

Charlie Don't Surf

I actually haven't even seen an episode since the Season 4 finale

Nov 30, 2011#124

Shegokigo

I have to agree with Sera, 90% of the shows you just listed Charlie bore me to tears.

Nov 30, 2011#125

Frankie Williamson

Yeah, that definitely means all tv sucks.

Nov 30, 2011#126

Shegokigo

I meant about her response that Charlie's list meant nothing. Didn't say there wasn't good TV on atm. Believe it or not, for the first time in 10yrs I actively watch 5+ tv shows atm. Only two of which were on Charlie's list.

Nov 30, 2011#127

BananaHands

Shegokigo said:
I meant about her response that Charlie's list meant nothing. Didn't say there wasn't good TV on atm. Believe it or not, for the first time in 10yrs I actively watch 5+ tv shows atm. Only two of which were on Charlie's list.

Let's hear 'em!

Nov 30, 2011#128

Shegokigo

I'll pass on having Charlie act the idiot and troll the hell out of my choices.

Nov 30, 2011#129

BananaHands

Nov 30, 2011#130

Shegokigo

USEEWUTIDIDTHAR?

Dec 1, 2011#131

ElJuski

that's a shame, though, because most of those shows actually are well-written, acclaimed stuff. Doesn't mean you can't be entertained watching something else--it's just that those shows that he listed are the heavy-lifters.

Also screw you if you hate Community and Parks and Recreation.

Dec 1, 2011#132

Krisken

I love Community, but was kinda bored with Parks and Recreation. Not saying it was bad, just didn't move at the right pace for me or something.

Dec 1, 2011#133

Shegokigo

ElJuski said:
that's a shame, though, because most of those shows actually are well-written, acclaimed stuff. Doesn't mean you can't be entertained watching something else--it's just that those shows that he listed are the heavy-lifters.

Also screw you if you hate Community and Parks and Recreation.

Not everyone finds Brazil and Citizen Cane to be compelling or entertaining movies either.

As for "the heavy-lifters", that's mostly opinion, even when shows win awards, it's usually politcal BS from mostly rigged awards shows.

Dec 1, 2011#134

sixpackshaker

Shegokigo said:
I'll pass on having Charlie act the idiot and troll the hell out of my choices.

Or you can just troll the hell back, and list the greatest TV show of all time, and the best representation of Superman, EVAH!

Dec 1, 2011#135

SeraRelm

Lois and Clark?

Dec 1, 2011#136

makare

I love Lois and Clark. It is so cheesy and Dean Cain was super hot as superman.

Dec 1, 2011#137

Charlie Don't Surf

Well, I'm not gonna troll 3/5 of your list, I can promise. 2 are on my list, 1 is The Walking Dead which I won't bring up here.

Dec 1, 2011#138

LittleSin

Shegokigo said:
Not everyone finds Brazil and Citizen Cane to be compelling or entertaining movies either.

THANK YOU. I can't get through Brazil yet everyone is always telling me I'm insane for finding it boring. Actually, I don't like any of Gilliams movies.

Dec 1, 2011#139

Shegokigo

Hell I find the Criterion collection to have about a 1 in 30 "interesting" rate for me, so there's that too.

Dec 1, 2011#140

Charlie Don't Surf

I've actually never seen Brazil or Citizen Kane, and the only Criterion movie I own is Che. I am really terrible at being a movie snob, I have barely seen any old black & white shit.

Dec 1, 2011#141

makare

I think Citizen Kane is a good movie solely from the perspective of watching how cinema developed. Without any context it is pretty boring by today's standards and the mystery that drives the movie is either 1 already known before the person watches it or 2 not interesting enough to keep someone intellectually involved in the story.

Dec 1, 2011#142

Covar

I want to get the Criterion version of Godzilla (thought they would call it Gojira like the previous dvd releases, so as not to be confused by the version with Steve Martin, but it turns out that's on there too!).

Also I enjoyed Parks & Recreation the first time I saw it. When it was based around a small paper distribution company in Scranton, PA.

Dec 1, 2011#143

Charlie Don't Surf

If you think Parks & Rec is just like the office, you must have only seen the first 2-3 episodes

Dec 1, 2011#144

Covar

makare said:
I think Citizen Kane is a good movie solely from the perspective of watching how cinema developed. Without any context it is pretty boring by today's standards and the mystery that drives the movie is either 1 already known before the person watches it or 2 not interesting enough to keep someone intellectually involved in the story.

Honestly, I've heard that excuse and if you ask me that's pretty bull. There are plenty of movies made around that time that despite being well permeated in pop culture are still excellent films to see for the first time and to hold audience attention. Casablanca springs to my head, as it's also in the conversations of greatest movie ever.
Being first or revolutionary doesn't automatically make something good. It makes it first and revolutionary.
Added at: 12:50

Charlie Don't Surf said:
If you think Parks & Rec is just like the office, you must have only seen the first 2-3 episodes

Just the Pilot, and there was absolutely nothing there that made me want to keep watching.

Dec 1, 2011#145

makare

... what? What excuse did I make exactly?

Dec 1, 2011#146

Officer_Charon

I don't know if I just caught a shitty ep of It's Always Sunny in Cleveland or what, but I watched about 10 minutes and decided that I couldn't tolerate the sheer stupidity of the characters. Did I catch 'em at a bad time, or what?

Bear in mind, this is coming from a guy who used to enjoy episodes of Beavis and Butthead, but can't tolerate South Park in more than 1 or 2 episodes at a time.

Dec 1, 2011#147

Covar

That a movie needs context to be good. It one of my annoyances in media, along side with you have to watch over half a season before you can say you like a tv show.

More of a general Citizen Kane rant than anything in particular at you, I'm more frazzled than usual, it's the last week of classes before my Graduation.

Dec 1, 2011#148

makare

That's fine. I understand believe me. But to be clear when I mean context I don't mean the time period I mean it's place in cinematic history. At the time it was doing things no one else had done that by now seem trite and boring. So what made the movie good the novelty of it has become old hat. I don't think it is particularly a good movie but at the time it was definitely an innovative movie.

Dec 1, 2011#149

Disconnected

OP: No, you're wrong.

Dec 1, 2011#150

Frankie Williamson

Officer_Charon said:
I don't know if I just caught a shitty ep of It's Always Sunny in Cleveland or what, but I watched about 10 minutes and decided that I couldn't tolerate the sheer stupidity of the characters. Did I catch 'em at a bad time, or what?

Bear in mind, this is coming from a guy who used to enjoy episodes of Beavis and Butthead, but can't tolerate South Park in more than 1 or 2 episodes at a time.

That's what I love about It's Always Sunny. The characters are just about the worst people on Earth and completely oblivious to it.

And South Park is one of the last shows on Earth I would call dumb. Often puerile, yeah. Dumb, never.

Dec 1, 2011#151

Officer_Charon

Puerile would work better, yes

Dec 1, 2011#152

Charlie Don't Surf

I liked Always Sunny better when it was called Seinfeld, heh

kidding, I love both. But yeah, it's a show about nothing other than awful people doing awful things that sometimes overlap

Dec 1, 2011#153

Shegokigo

I truly miss Seinfeld, Cheers, Fraiser, Married With Children, Golden Girls (though Hot in Cleaveland is a nice homage), and a bunch of other awesome sitcoms from the 80s-90s.

Dec 1, 2011#154

ElJuski

Shegokigo said:
Not everyone finds Brazil and Citizen Cane to be compelling or entertaining movies either.
As for "the heavy-lifters", that's mostly opinion, even when shows win awards, it's usually politcal BS from mostly rigged awards shows.

I don't follow awards shows. I follow the opinions of people who are heavily vested in pop culture as an art. Oscar winners hardly ever meet my expectations for amazing work.
Added at: 21:16

Charlie Don't Surf said:
I liked Always Sunny better when it was called Seinfeld, heh
kidding, I love both. But yeah, it's a show about nothing other than awful people doing awful things that sometimes overlap

I liked that show when I was in college...but all the shouting got boring after a while. Ask Bananahands, he saw it happen.

Dec 1, 2011#155

Charlie Don't Surf

CONTROVERSIAL OPINION: Frasier is better than Cheers

Dec 1, 2011#156

Shegokigo

Wow, that's actually pretty damn debatable Charlie, loved them both for VERY different reasons.

My mind = Blown.

Dec 1, 2011#157

Frankie Williamson

I thought it was weird how different the character was between shows. Cheers Frasier would probably beat up Frasier Frasier.

Dec 1, 2011#158

Charlie Don't Surf

And I actually am pretty sure I've seen every episode of each show 2 times at least thanks to syndication and Nick @ Nite. Maybe not the last couple seasons of Frasier.
Added at: 15:56

Frankie Williamson said:
I thought it was weird how different the character was between shows. Cheers Frasier would probably beat up Frasier Frasier.

I chalked it up to A) being around his dad and B) having to be some smidge more likeable since the show's named after ya

Dec 1, 2011#159

Covar

Charlie Don't Surf said:
CONTROVERSIAL OPINION: Frasier is better than Cheers

Been rewatching both shows on Netflix and I think I have to agree. First season of Cheers bounces between average and good, it took them a while to figure it out. Frasier really got to benefit from 11 years of Cheers.

Dec 1, 2011#160

Null

Frankie Williamson said:
I thought it was weird how different the character was between shows. Cheers Frasier would probably beat up Frasier Frasier.

I actually felt that was fairly justified - a lot of a person's behavior is determined by their situation in life. In Boston, Dr. Frasier Crane was married to a cold but beautiful colleague, had a rather successful practice, and spent most of his free time in a working class bar drinking generic beer, rubbing elbows with people he could look down on in a friendly manner.

In Seattle, he was a radio talk show host, divorced, living with his dad and having his even less manly brother as his closest companion. He spent time at a cozy little cafe drinking gourmet coffee from demitasse, often alone.

Cheers Frasier was successful, more than most of the people around him. In Frasier, he wasn't - he wasn't doing poorly by any means, but most of his social circle was comparable to him. Aside from the fact that he was a divorced dad who rarely got to see his kid, well, I'm guessing that effected him and he dealt with it by becoming more introverted and elitist.

Dec 1, 2011#161

Gusto

I never really saw Cheers (too young) but I enjoyed what Frasier I saw.

Dec 1, 2011#162

Shegokigo

Cheers got progressively better as the years went on.
Frasier did the opposite.

Dec 1, 2011#163

Charlie Don't Surf

I thought Frasier was all pretty good until Niles and Daphne started dating.

And Kirsty Allen was no Diane, Woody was no Coach

Dec 1, 2011#164

Covar

Charlie Don't Surf said:
I thought Frasier was all pretty good until Niles and Daphne started dating.

And Kirsty Allen was no Diane, Woody was no Coach

See I prefer Rebecca to Diane, both Woody and Coach were great, I might give the edge to Woody though, just because he had the benefit of being on the show for so much longer (obviously no fault of Nicholas Colasanto).

Dec 1, 2011#165

BananaHands

Charlie Don't Surf said:
I thought Frasier was all pretty good until Niles and Daphne started dating.

Couldn't agree more. Same thing with the Office. I actually enjoyed that show until Jim and Pam started dating.

Dec 2, 2011#166

Shegokigo

Charlie Don't Surf said:
I thought Frasier was all pretty good until Niles and Daphne started dating.

And Kirsty Allen was no Diane, Woody was no Coach

Diane was superior but Woody's antics and Kirsty Allen/Ted Danson's relationship is what blew Cheers up.
So you partially agreed with my statement.

Fraiser - Good to progressively bad.
Cheers - Good to progressively better.

Dec 2, 2011#167

TVTropes

makare said:
That's fine. I understand believe me. But to be clear when I mean context I don't mean the time period I mean it's place in cinematic history. At the time it was doing things no one else had done that by now seem trite and boring. So what made the movie good the novelty of it has become old hat. I don't think it is particularly a good movie but at the time it was definitely an innovative movie.

TL;DR version: Seinfeld Is Unfunny!

Dec 2, 2011#168

Shegokigo

Never understood the fascination with TVTropes.

Dec 2, 2011#169

ElJuski

BananaHands said:
Couldn't agree more. Same thing with the Office. I actually enjoyed that show until Jim and Pam started dating.

I thought to myself, FINALLY! But then groaned when they needed to shoehorn everyone else's relationship in its place. Still think that show should have ended with Michael Scott boarding that plane.
Added at: 21:00
ugh, tvtropes. It's just aspergers on an internet-wide scale.

Dec 2, 2011#170

Charlie Don't Surf

Shegokigo said:
Never understood the fascination with TVTropes.

Something on which we can agree.

I'm not clicking it since Seinfeld is hilarious

Dec 2, 2011#171

Shegokigo

Two things on which we can agree then.

Dec 2, 2011#172

ElJuski

How about titties? That's three!

Dec 2, 2011#173

Charlie Don't Surf

I just need a nice girl that wants to curl up and watch Annie Hall with me.

Dec 2, 2011#174

Shegokigo

I just want one that I can call up two-three times a week, go over for a few hours and then leave without any drama attached. Is that so much to ask?

inb4youandtherestofthemalestraightpopulation

Sad part is I had the perfect set-up and f'ed it up royal.

Dec 2, 2011#175

makare

There were some really great moments on Seinfeld but over all I never got into it. It isn't that I don't like the show it just was never an "oh my god it is so hilaaarious!" type thing for me. But maybe I was too young to enjoy it. I dunno.

Dec 2, 2011#176

Charlie Don't Surf

this is about pop culture, what movies would you watch or what music would you play

Dec 2, 2011#177

Shegokigo

True true.

Onward and upward:

Juski/Bananahands: Wings or Night Court?

Dec 2, 2011#178

Tress

A friend and I had a disagreement recently about Parenthood (the show, not the movie). I claimed it was underrated with some strong acting and writing. I'm not saying it's the best thing on tv. I just argued that it was a good, solid show.

My friend thinks it sucks and it's the worst show ever where nothing important happens.

Thoughts? Opinions?

Dec 2, 2011#179

Charlie Don't Surf

I haven't watched one minute of Parenthood. But I've heard some critics say nice things about it.
Added at: 16:00

Shegokigo said:
True true.
Onward and upward:
Juski/Bananahands: Wings or Night Court?

I am chiming in on all of these despite it not being my thread.
Wings had the better cast, Night Court had the better premise.

Dec 2, 2011#180

makare

My favorite show is Psych. I love that show.

Dec 2, 2011#181

BananaHands

ElJuski said:
I thought to myself, FINALLY! But then groaned when they needed to shoehorn everyone else's relationship in its place. Still think that show should have ended with Michael Scott boarding that plane.
Added at: 21:00
ugh, tvtropes. It's just aspergers on an internet-wide scale.

Seriously. I just don't care about Jim and Pam anymore. I don't care about the cutesy moments there throw in every episode so people can tweet about how cute it was. They could seriously get rid of Jim and Pam and the show would probably do better.
Added at: 22:30
Oh, look guys. Lady Gaga released a fucking 14 minute music video where it bores me to death and she continues to try and make herself look like this tragic star.
Added at: 22:35

Shegokigo said:
True true.
Onward and upward:
Juski/Bananahands: Wings or Night Court?

Wings. I enjoyed Night Court, but I just feel like Wings ages better and the Cheers characters popped up from time to time.

Dec 2, 2011#182

Frankie Williamson

Night Court, I'll take John Larroquette any day.

I also miss the tragically underrated John Larroquette Show, one of the best sitcoms of it's time. Well, at least it's first season anyway before it got networked to be lighter and happier.

Dec 2, 2011#183

SeraRelm

Frankie Williamson said:
John Larroquette.

This.

Dec 2, 2011#184

Charlie Don't Surf

The Larry Sanders Show is better than 30 Rock

Dec 2, 2011#185

Frankie Williamson

Larry Sanders is the only sitcom (I guess that's what it is) I have the complete package of on DVD. They used to marathon Larry Sanders on CTV here in Edmonton at like 2-4 am every night for a year or so and I became hopelessly addicted to it as a teenager.

So, yes, I'd agree. Being HBO didn't hurt it either, Rip Torn is an amazing swear artist.

Dec 3, 2011#186

Bowielee

makare said:
My favorite show is Psych. I love that show.

I loved Psych for the first couple of seasons, but it seems to have been on a steady decline since last season.

Dec 3, 2011#187

makare

hmm ive enjoyed this season so far. I loved the vampire ep.

Dec 3, 2011#188

Bowielee

To be fair, I haven't had a chance to watch any of the new episodes so far this season due to overwhelming amounts of school work.

Dec 3, 2011#189

makare

I've heard mixed reviews of this season but I love the characters so much I am pretty forgiving.

I never cared if Shawn and Juliette got together so that doesn't have any affect on me. It might to other people.

Dec 3, 2011#190

ElJuski

I couldn't get into The Larry Sanders Show, which is pretty damn weird, considering the whole Appatow connection. I'll definitely say Night Court; I never liked Wings.

Dec 3, 2011#191

BananaHands

Your italics makes your point more valid.

Dec 3, 2011#192

ElJuski

My adherence to common rules regarding writing makes me look like an intelligent person rather than an internet dumbass

unless I ironically don't use periods

bitch

Dec 3, 2011#193

makare

I think people generally don't notice good grammar. they just notice when it is bad.

Dec 4, 2011#194

ElJuski

and more importantly Bananahands is a butt

Dec 4, 2011#195

Krisken

Yeah, but he'll turn the other cheek.

Dec 4, 2011#196

BananaHands

Dec 4, 2011#197

makare

ooh my god that reminds me. i work with a guy who looks just like the son on that show. it is so uncanny. i want to mention it to him but i dont think he'd appreciate it.

Dec 5, 2011#198

ElJuski

makare said:
ooh my god that reminds me. i work with a guy who looks just like the son on that show. it is so uncanny. i want to mention it to him but i dont think he'd appreciate it.

lol mak, my former boss at the library looked EXACTLY like Jay. It was always a point I wanted to bring up, but never could.

Dec 5, 2011#199

BananaHands

Best animated shows. Go!

Dec 5, 2011#200

strawman

Avatar is an easy one.

I assume you mean TV, but I'm going to throw The Secret of Kells on the heap as awesome is many ways.

Dec 5, 2011#201

BananaHands

stienman said:
Avatar is an easy one.

I assume you mean TV, but I'm going to throw The Secret of Kells on the heap as awesome is many ways.

I actually really liked Avatar. I never did watch through the last season though. I'll have to check out The Secret of Kells. I think Venture Brothers, Batman: TAS and Cowboy Bebop all go without saying.

Dec 5, 2011#202

sixpackshaker

BananaHands said:
Best animated shows. Go!

80's-90's Warner Bro's
Batman TAS
Superman TAS
Animaniacs
Tiny Toons - good, but not quite the best.

Dec 5, 2011#203

Shegokigo

Best Animated Shows? (Not running off nostalgia, good shows that stand the test of time and maintained a sense of respect for the viewer during their airing IE: Not feeling the need to please everyone and doing what they set out to do)

The Tick
Batman: TAS
Futurama
Venture Bros
Sonic the Hedgehog (The good one)
Beetlejuice
Ghostbusters
X-Men (The 90s version)
Reboot (Pushing it here as this was CGI)

Best animated series not from here? (OVAs do not count as they're mini movies)
Cowboy Bebop
Trigun
Hellsing
Tenchi Muyo TV/Universe
Sailor Moon

Dec 5, 2011#204

SeraRelm

Home Movies. For consideration on it's greatness, I offer you this snippet.

Dec 5, 2011#205

BananaHands

Oh man, I forgot that there were two Sonic animated shows and one was absolutely great. Also, Freakazoid. I especially loved the Candlejack bit. It was awes

Dec 5, 2011#206

sixpackshaker

I miss Dexter's Lab and Samurai Jack (really, they could not keep that on the air?)

Dec 5, 2011#207

BananaHands

sixpackshaker said:
I miss Dexter's Lab and Samurai Jack (really, they could not keep that on the air?)

And old Johnny Bravo. Before they changed everything and made it more of a kids show.

Dec 5, 2011#208

Shegokigo

Gorram! How did I forget Samurai Jack? Easily one of my top 3 all time favorites.

Dec 5, 2011#209

Bowielee

Pirates of Dark Water

Still pissed it got cancelled without a proper resolution.

Dec 5, 2011#210

Shegokigo

That's the only reason I didn't list it. No ending = failure to reach top status.

Dec 5, 2011#211

Bowielee

Shegokigo said:
That's the only reason I didn't list it. No ending = failure to reach top status.

Yeah, but that's a failure of the network, not of the show itself.

Dec 5, 2011#212

Krisken

I still love The Tick.

Dec 5, 2011#213

Shegokigo

Bowielee said:
Yeah, but that's a failure of the network, not of the show itself.

I agree but I can't consider it as great a series if the series didn't have a real resolution unfortunately.

Great show though.

Dec 5, 2011#214

makare

I want to put American Dragon before they changed it on this list. I loved that show. So fun.

Dec 5, 2011#215

Vagabond

Even though they are two very different shows, I enjoyed Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law more than Space Ghost Coast to Coast.

Dec 5, 2011#216

ElJuski

opinion approv'd

Dec 6, 2011#217

Frankie Williamson

Vagabond said:
Even though they are two very different shows, I enjoyed Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law more than Space Ghost Coast to Coast.

I've never met anyone that didn't.

Dec 6, 2011#218

LittleSin

Are we forgetting the wonder of wonders that was Clone High?

Dec 6, 2011#219

Shegokigo

Never watched it.

Dec 6, 2011#220

BananaHands

Shegokigo said:
Never watched it.

Clumsy Joan, REAL clumsy.

Dec 6, 2011#221

Piotyr

Mysterious Cities of Gold. I loved that show as a kid.

Dec 6, 2011#222

ElJuski

Here are the best television shows, in order.

The Simpsons (Seasons 1 - 8) > News Radio > everything else.

Dec 6, 2011#223

Shegokigo

Wrong.

Dec 6, 2011#224

ElJuski

nope

Dec 6, 2011#225

Shegokigo

Pretty much, yeah. Both of those would be lucky to rank top 50.

Dec 6, 2011#226

ElJuski

lulz

Dec 6, 2011#227

Shegokigo

Exactly.

Dec 6, 2011#228

makare

I have to think that I just haven't seen good episodes of the simpsons. I watched the first season and it was meh. Which season is the best?

Dec 6, 2011#229

SeraRelm

Shegokigo said:
Never watched it.

Say whaaaaaaaat?

Dec 7, 2011#230

ElJuski

makare said:
I have to think that I just haven't seen good episodes of the simpsons. I watched the first season and it was meh. Which season is the best?

Seasons 3-8 are the golden years. For the more family-driven, sentiment earning episodes, go early. For the more broad, yet more poignant satire and belly-laughs, go later. Personally, my favorite seasons are 7 and 8, and my favorite episodes are:

"Homer At the Bat"
"Homerpalooza"
"The Summer of 4 Ft. 2"
Krusty Gets Kancelled"
Lisa the Iconoclast"
"A Millhouse Divided"
"Homer's Phobia"

And probably a thousand more which I can't remember off the top of my head. But yeah, 3-8. Worth the work.

Dec 7, 2011#231

BananaHands

I like the Simpsons, but I don't like to consider an episodic format show in my "Top __" lists. I'm with Shego on the idea that a show needs a resolution... I mean, the way Simpsons was written, it's no surprise that it's suffering now. The writers got bored and moved to different shows with more continuity. Futurama, News Radio, Mission Hill (fuckin' love that show) or moved on to hosting a late night talk show (have to have Conan love).

Still, it's cool to see where the writers went. Most of them left the show around season 7 (or whenever Futurama started... maybe that was 8?) and come back to write the occasional episode or came back to write the movie.

Mike Mendel
Colin ABV Lewis
Jeff Goldstein
Al Jean
Conan O'Brien
Bill Oakley
Josh Weinstein
Mike Reiss
Ken Tsumara
George Meyer
John Swartzwelder
Jon Vitti
CJ Gibson
David M. Stern
Dee Capelli
Lona Williams

Dec 7, 2011#232

ElJuski

Peh. A good episode of The Simpsons has more heart and soul than plenty of those hour-long drama fests. Which, they can still be good, but most definitely aren't the better.

Dec 7, 2011#233

Namesake

Newsradio still holds up as one of my favourite shows of all time.

This episode may be my favourite episode of anything EVAR.

Dec 7, 2011#234

Shegokigo

Newsradio had some great shows but should have created a final resolution season after Hartman passed. Much like my previous statement:

Great shows/episodes. Good series, but not great.

Dec 8, 2011#235

ElJuski

It...did. It ended the season after he died, leaving Mathew and Dave together in limbo. Of course they were planning one more season, but when they couldn't, it ended just perfectly.

Dec 8, 2011#236

BananaHands

Top five movies, everyone. Lets hear 'em.

Dec 8, 2011#237

ElJuski

In no particular order: In Bruges, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Wet Hot American Summer, The Big Lebowski, and probably one of those classics that I love that I can't think the name of right now. Or maybe You Only Live Twice.

Dec 8, 2011#238

Shegokigo

High Tension, REC, Labyrinth, Pandorum, Pan's Labyrinth

(These are just my all time top favorites, not remotely saying they're the best movies of all time)

Dec 8, 2011#239

makare

ElJuski said:
In no particular order: In Bruges, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Wet Hot American Summer, The Big Lebowski, and probably one of those classics that I love that I can't think the name of right now. Or maybe You Only Live Twice.

Lol I think I am going to keep my movie favorites to myself since this thread is designed to judge other people's opinions. If those are your favorites.. my favorites are really going to take a licking.

Dec 8, 2011#240

Shegokigo

So you posted to tell us you're not going to post.

Thank you for notifying us of the notification.

Dec 8, 2011#241

ElJuski

Right. My favorite movies are, by no means, the BEST movies. Although probably top for their respective genres.

Dec 8, 2011#242

BananaHands

Royal Tenenbaums, I <3 Huckabees, Fargo, Raiders of the Lost Arc and Hook are my favorites.

Dec 8, 2011#243

ElJuski

she said fuckabees

Dec 8, 2011#244

Piotyr

Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, Equilibrium, Yellowbeard, Big Trouble in Little China, and Hero.

Dec 8, 2011#245

BananaHands

Chicken's not vegan?

Dec 8, 2011#246

Frankie Williamson

The Thing (1982), Goodfellas, Leon, Terminator 2 and Unforgiven.

Dec 8, 2011#247

ElJuski

I'm just grateful that there is some diversity on these lists. I was really worried it was going to be a bunch of sci-fi and fantasy. BROADEN YOUR HORIZONS PEOPLE

Dec 8, 2011#248

Frankie Williamson

I like gritty movies, honorable mention: True Grit, the new one. The old one's ok, but has too much happy horse riding.

Dec 8, 2011#249

ElJuski

I also think it's very telling that at least one Coen Bros' movie usually makes everyone's list.

Dec 8, 2011#250

Tress

Ghostbusters, Saving Private Ryan, Ocean's Eleven, Night of the Living Dead (either version), and Fools Rush In (for nostalgia reasons).

My favorite trilogy would be the Bourne films.

Really, I could go on and on with this list. I loves me some movies.

Dec 8, 2011#251

sixpackshaker

Raising Arizona, The Last Starfighter, Star Wars, Lawrence of Arabia, Citizen Kane.

Dec 8, 2011#252

Vagabond

Children of Men, The Fugitive, Anchorman, Se7en, The Iron Giant

Dec 8, 2011#253

Shegokigo

Where's the judging Juski/BH?

Dec 8, 2011#254

BananaHands

It's hard to judge when I approve of all of these. Especially The Iron Giant. Fantastic movie.
Added at: 01:45
Also, Saving Private Ryan and Children of Men are incredibly well shot. Both movies with a long sequence done all in one take.

Dec 8, 2011#255

LittleSin

Ghostbusters, Mystery Men, Jurassic Park, Waynes World, South Park: Biggerm, Longer and Uncut.

All movies I can watch over and over with out getting tired of them.

Dec 8, 2011#256

Tress

BananaHands said:
It's hard to judge when I approve of all of these.

Oh, sorry. What I meant to say is that my favorite movies all time are Twilight, The Adventures of Pluto Nash, Step Up 2 the Streets, X-Men 3, and Battlefield Earth.

Favorite trilogy? Transformers. Hands down.

Dec 8, 2011#257

Shegokigo

I actually love The Adventures of Pluto Nash, but it's my "obviously so bad it's awesome" favorites.

Dec 8, 2011#258

makare

I enjoy the The Adventures of Pluto Nash. It's a mob movie ON THE MOON.

Dec 8, 2011#259

Shegokigo

Seriously and Randy Quaid as his "out of date but awesome man-servant/bodyguard" was downright hilarious.

Dec 8, 2011#260

strawman

Just watched howl's moving castle. Now I want to watch all his movies again. Fantastic, in all senses of the word.

Dec 8, 2011#261

Frankie Williamson

True story, when I first saw Leon in 1994, I had a mAAAssive crush on Natalie Portman.

As a side note, I was 11 and she was 12 or 13.

Dec 8, 2011#262

Gusto

Frankie Williamson said:
True story, when I first saw Leon in 1994, I had a mAAAssive crush on Natalie Portman.

As a side note, I was 11 and she was 12 or 13.

The Professional?

Dec 8, 2011#263

Frankie Williamson

Gusto said:
The Professional?

Yeah.

Dec 9, 2011#264

BananaHands

Tress said:
Oh, sorry. What I meant to say is that my favorite movies all time are Twilight, The Adventures of Pluto Nash, Step Up 2 the Streets, X-Men 3, and Battlefield Earth.

Favorite trilogy? Transformers. Hands down.

Dec 9, 2011#265

Officer_Charon

Frankie Williamson said:
True story, when I first saw Leon in 1994, I had a mAAAssive crush on Natalie Portman.

As a side note, I was 11 and she was 12 or 13.

It... it's like we're brothers....

Dec 9, 2011#266

Shaw Coyote

There is a special place in my heart for Kung Fu Hustle.

Dec 9, 2011#267

Gusto

Fun fact: My friend almost asphyxiated himself laughing during Kung Fu Hustle.
Added at: 15:34
Like, I was laughing too, but I was also pretty worried he would pass out.

Dec 9, 2011#268

Shaw Coyote

Was it this scene?

Edit: Wait no, was it this scene???

Dec 9, 2011#269

Gusto

It was the knife scene.

Added at: 16:00
Also relevant:

Dec 9, 2011#270

Namesake

If i had to pick, Super Troopers, The Matrix, A Clockwork Orange, Godzilla: Final Wars and Sunshine

Dec 10, 2011#271

Shegokigo

Clockwork Orange is in my top 10, so kudos points there.

Dec 10, 2011#272

Bowielee

Labyrinth, Velvet Goldmine, Clue, Shaun of the Dead, John Carpenter's The Thing.

Dec 10, 2011#273

Frankie Williamson

I'm not one to judge people on movies tastes and I don't mean to, but could you explain what you love about Clue? I'm curious because I always thought it was painfully dull. Again, I'm not judging, just curious.

Dec 10, 2011#274

Bowielee

I think it's one of the most brilliantly paced and sharp comedies ever produced.

I love dry humor though, so maybe that's not your cup of tea.

Dec 10, 2011#275

BananaHands

Gusto said:
It was the knife scene.
Added at: 16:00
Also relevant:

HAHAHAH! You love Abe! You love Abe! Could it BE any more obvious?

Dec 10, 2011#276

Shaw Coyote

I know we're supposed to be talking about movies now, but I feel like there hasn't been enough love for Party Down in this thread.

Dec 10, 2011#277

DarkAudit

drifter said:
By the by, are you pairing those Grados' with a portable amp? If you care that much about sound, it might be worth looking into. I've heard some good things about this one, and it won't break the bank.

Done and done. Just pulled the trigger on the amp and the LOD cable. All for under $50.

Dec 10, 2011#278

MindDetective

Shaw Coyote said:
I know we're supposed to be talking about movies now, but I feel like there hasn't been enough love for Party Down in this thread.

I freakin' love the Steve Guttenberg episode! So sad that there was only 2 seasons.

Dec 15, 2011#279

DarkAudit

All the better for listening to prog with...

Thanks for the suggestion, Drifter.

Dec 16, 2011#280

Charlie Don't Surf

re: Party Down, the cast is buzzing about filming the movie this summer. It'll probably beat the Arrested Development movie into theaters.

Jan 19, 2012#281

fade

ThatNickGuy said:
So, this thread is basically trashing this, that, and the other thing?

We get enough of that as it is from fade and Charlie.

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. Back on the hit list with you. That's like comparing a martial artist with a guy who just runs bodily into you, going "Booga booga booga booga" with arms flailing everywhere. Or comparing a sniper rifle with a nuclear bomb.

Jan 19, 2012#282

BananaHands

Fade and Chalrie, sittin' in a tree.

Jan 19, 2012#283

Charlie Don't Surf

who the fuck is chalrie

Jan 19, 2012#284

strawman

Jealous? Maybe you ought to ask Fade about it...

Jan 19, 2012#285

BananaHands

Sorry, I meant CHAAWWWLIIIE.

Jan 19, 2012#286

ElJuski

B, I can't wait to judge everyone else's shitty tastes when you get your ass out here to DC soon.

Jan 19, 2012#287

ThatNickGuy

I suddenly picture you two sitting on a curb downtown and just pointing to each person that walks by, shouting "SHIT!"

Jan 19, 2012#288

Charlie Don't Surf

Just sit outside of a theater showing Phantom Menace in 3D

Jan 20, 2012#289

DarkAudit

Headphone chatter started here, so here it stays...

So who is to blame? Patrick Norton for suggesting the Grados and head-fi.org? Drifter, for turning me on to the FiiO amp? All I know is my ears are happy, but my wallet has been sobbing in the corner for the last two months.

As I go for higher and higher end cans, I've been made aware of this little gem of an amp. Should drive nearly anything my budget can throw at it, including the AKG Q701s which are next on my wish list. I have zero soldering skills, so I ordered it preassembled and cased. 150 bucks, but compares favorably to amps costing up to 6x as much.

Jan 20, 2012#290

ThatNickGuy

Charlie Don't Surf said:
Just sit outside of a theater showing Phantom Menace in 3D

Jan 20, 2012#291

BananaHands

ThatNickGuy said:
I suddenly picture you two sitting on a curb downtown and just pointing to each person that walks by, shouting "SHIT!"

"YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD ABOUT WHO YOU ARE!" Will probably be yelled.

Jan 20, 2012#292

strawman

"YOU ARE THE REASON WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS."

Jan 20, 2012#293

drifter

DarkAudit said:
Headphone chatter started here, so here it stays...

So who is to blame? Patrick Norton for suggesting the Grados and head-fi.org? Drifter, for turning me on to the FiiO amp? All I know is my ears are happy, but my wallet has been sobbing in the corner for the last two months.

Jan 20, 2012#294

Shegokigo

I am highly disappointed in the lack of "frat boy/red cup" judging that I had expected from this thread.

Jan 21, 2012#295

Bowielee

Shegokigo said:
I am highly disappointed in the lack of "frat boy/red cup" judging that I had expected from this thread.

So, does making fun of frat douches just circle around and make you a hipster douche?

It's like an orobus.

Jan 21, 2012#296

ElJuski

Shegokigo said:
I am highly disappointed in the lack of "frat boy/red cup" judging that I had expected from this thread.

Are you saying that we should be judging frat boys? Or that we are frat boys?

Because I hate proving you wrong time and time again

Jan 21, 2012#297

ThatNickGuy

Bowielee said:
View attachment 4099

So, does making fun of frat douches just circle around and make you a hipster douche?

It's like an orobus.

Jesus Christ, what is that, the Jersey Shore version of Dr. Strange?

Actually, that'd be pretty hilarious.

Jan 21, 2012#298

strawman

ElJuski said:
Because I hate proving you wrong time and time again

I've often wondered if you take secret pleasure in doing that, but I'm glad to know the record has been set straight.

Wait, isn't this whole thread dedicated to you telling people that they are wrong?

Jan 21, 2012#299

Bowielee

ThatNickGuy said:
Jesus Christ, what is that, the Jersey Shore version of Dr. Strange?

Actually, that'd be pretty hilarious.

Jan 21, 2012#300

North_Ranger

Bowielee said:
View attachment 4103

Judge Doom must be so proud of his great-grandson...

Jan 21, 2012#301

Shegokigo

ElJuski said:
Are you saying that we should be judging frat boys? Or that we are frat boys?

Because I hate proving you wrong time and time again

Shit I'm still waiting for you to have done it once.

Jan 21, 2012#302

HowDroll

ElJuski said:
Are you saying that we should be judging frat boys? Or that we are frat boys?
Because I hate proving you wrong time and time again

Both, probably.

Jan 21, 2012#303

ElJuski

WELL YOU ARE JUST SO DROLL

Jan 23, 2012#304

BananaHands

HowDroll said:
Both, probably.

Christ, what are YOU doing here?
Added at: 16:20
But seriously folks, let's get back on topics.

Let's hear what TV shows you're excited to get back on the air so I can judge you accordingly.

Personally: Community (eventually), The Walking Dead (Now that they straightened the girl thing out, I'm hoping they move right on to the prison so we can get that ark), Mad Men and WHENEVER THE HELL VENTURE BROTHERS AIRS AGAIN. Seriously. They were cleared for a feature-length episode this next season. It's going to be great.

Jan 23, 2012#305

ThatNickGuy

Well, Eureka's one show I'm looking forward to returning, even if it's officially the last season.

Jan 23, 2012#306

HowDroll

BananaHands said:
Christ, what are YOU doing here?
Added at: 16:20
But seriously folks, let's get back on topics.

Let's hear what TV shows you're excited to get back on the air so I can judge you accordingly.

Personally: Community (eventually), The Walking Dead (Now that they straightened the girl thing out, I'm hoping they move right on to the prison so we can get that ark), Mad Men and WHENEVER THE HELL VENTURE BROTHERS AIRS AGAIN. Seriously. They were cleared for a feature-length episode this next season. It's going to be great.

I personally haven't gotten my recent fix of incest/child murder/beheadings/gripping political intrigue since June -- so I'm looking forward to Game of Thrones season 2.

Jan 23, 2012#307

BananaHands

ThatNickGuy said:
Well, Eureka's one show I'm looking forward to returning, even if it's officially the last season.

I keep hearing that I have to watch that show. How many seasons is it at and is on Netflix?

HowDroll said:
I personally haven't gotten my recent fix of incest/child murder/beheadings/gripping political intrigue since June -- so I'm looking forward to Game of Thrones season 2.

oasidfhasodighasogb I'm reading the book right now just the hold off the withdrawals. Boardwalk Empire did a good job of holding it off, but now that it's finished...

Jan 23, 2012#308

HowDroll

BananaHands said:
I keep hearing that I have to watch that show. How many seasons is it at and is on Netflix?

oasidfhasodighasogb I'm reading the book right now just the hold off the withdrawals. Boardwalk Empire did a good job of holding it off, but now that it's finished...

I still have to watch that show and see the Phantom of the Opera in action...

I just started Mad Men Season 4, so hopefully in a few more weeks I can get some Boardwalk Empire going.

Jan 23, 2012#309

ThatNickGuy

BananaHands said:
I keep hearing that I have to watch that show. How many seasons is it at and is on Netflix?

Don't think it's on Netflix, but it's worth checking. There's...four and a half seasons, I think? I'll be the first to admit it's not the greatest show of all time. It's formulaic and hokey, but there's just something about that I love. Likely because it's nerdy as all heck. Plus, they take the idea of jumping the shark and basically make it a part of the show. Kind of like how Community does it.

Jan 23, 2012#310

BananaHands

ThatNickGuy said:
Don't think it's on Netflix, but it's worth checking. There's...four and a half seasons, I think? I'll be the first to admit it's not the greatest show of all time. It's formulaic and hokey, but there's just something about that I love. Likely because it's nerdy as all heck. Plus, they take the idea of jumping the shark and basically make it a part of the show. Kind of like how Community does it.

"Oh and for the record, there was an episode of Happy Days where a guy literally jumped over a shark and it was THE BEST one. "

Jan 23, 2012#311

Charlie Don't Surf

Justified just started, and is amazing. I think Luck started, I wanna watch that. Shameless and House of Lies I wanna watch too.

Jan 23, 2012#312

BananaHands

I keep hearing about Shameless. I also hear there are a lot of boobies in it.

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