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Jul 21, 2011#1

Chibibar

http://www.swtor.com/preorder

Yea. I pre-order the collector's edition. There goes next month's "fun money"

Jul 21, 2011#2

bigcountry23

Collectors edition sold out already. Grabbed the Delux Version.

Jul 21, 2011#3

Gusto

Got my Digital Deluxe version.

Jul 21, 2011#4

Dave

Real question: How can you sell out digital content?

Jul 21, 2011#5

Gusto

The first wave of preorders are limited because they come with early access to the game.

Jul 21, 2011#6

Dave

So it has nothing to do with the game itself, but the server capacity for stable servers. Got it.

Jul 21, 2011#7

Gusto

Probably just a bonus for early birds. I imagine they'll open another wave of preorders after this wave is done, but it'll just be a standard get-it-when-the-actually-releases-whenever-that-is affair.

Jul 21, 2011#8

Chibibar

I order the collector's edition from Gamestop online, but more than likely I'll order another one at the store itself (safer I think) plus I know the manager there.

Jul 21, 2011#9

Ravenpoe

Preorder from amazon confirmed.

I blame you guys for enabling my addiction.

Jul 21, 2011#10

Chibibar

Ravenpoe said:
Preorder from amazon confirmed.

I blame you guys for enabling my addiction.

umm. Yay?

Welcome to the Dark Side muahahahhahhhahhahahaa

Jul 21, 2011#11

Necronic

Hmmmmm. You know I may have to check this one out. MAYBE. I read this on the wiki and cringed:

Players' choices will permanently open or close storylines and affect players' NPC companions

I have yet to see an MMO developer that can manage the kind of balance that will require and not eventually capitulate to the whining masses. It's like they have never heard of min/max
And good lord the space combat is going to be a tunnel shooter.....

Still though, I'll withold judgement. I'm just concerned that Bioware's poor conception of Sandbox vs Decision tree will make the game progression very boring.

Jul 21, 2011#12

LordRendar

Droool.... How can I juggle EVE,LOL and this? xD

Jul 21, 2011#13

Chibibar

Necronic said:
Hmmmmm. You know I may have to check this one out. MAYBE. I read this on the wiki and cringed:

I have yet to see an MMO developer that can manage the kind of balance that will require and not eventually capitulate to the whining masses. It's like they have never heard of min/max
And good lord the space combat is going to be a tunnel shooter.....

Still though, I'll withold judgement. I'm just concerned that Bioware's poor conception of Sandbox vs Decision tree will make the game progression very boring.

I am still excited, but yea. I can see if people makes BAD decision and lock out of that companion.

Maybe there will change it to make it "semi-permenant" i.e. allow doing MANY quests to regain their favor (probably would be better with faction/personal recognition style) but of course if you gain one, you lose another and CAN'T have them all.

Jul 21, 2011#14

Chad Sexington

I think you each get to make the decision, but the majority will win out, however, if you chose to say, spare a life and the team votes such that guy was still killed, you earn the light side points (not sure about faction/rep), even though that character is now dead for you.

Jul 21, 2011#15

Shegokigo

Good, I don't care if some hoity toighty jedi namby pamby would be a better min/max companion. If my mass murdering bounty hunter had to carry that along with her? I'd just shoot myself.

Jul 21, 2011#16

Frankie Williamson

EA sure has that internet thing figured out.

Check out this madness:

The neogaffer that spoke with their tech support confirmed that that indeed is a surcharge for the joy of pre-ordering through ORIGINS.

Those prices are inFUCKINGsane.

Jul 21, 2011#17

LordRendar

That is expensive.

Jul 21, 2011#18

Shegokigo

$150 for the Collector's Edition.... ouch.

Jul 21, 2011#19

Frankie Williamson

You don't get a whole hell of a lot with that collector's edition either. Some shitty plastic statue and a soundtrack disc? A bunch of useless ingame items. That is terrible.

At least when 2K charged near that for the Bioshock special edition we got that amazing Big Daddy resin statue.

Jul 21, 2011#20

Chad Sexington

I'm so torn! I really want to try this but between school and work, I'll have so little time that investing the monthly fee for only a few hours of play... I'd probably only play it during Christmas/Spring/Summer breaks, and I'm not sure if I'd enjoy it at that slow a pace.

Jul 21, 2011#21

Hailey Knight

No release date yet. Why?

Because of WoW.

Bioware has some smart mother fuckers. I wish I had a good enough computer to make pre-ordering worth it.

Jul 21, 2011#22

Chibibar

Quotemander Prime said:
No release date yet. Why?

Because of WoW.

Bioware has some smart mother fuckers. I wish I had a good enough computer to make pre-ordering worth it.

But they have to give it out sooner or later. They can't "not tell" forever. I mean customers will want to know.

Jul 21, 2011#23

Chad Sexington

Chibibar said:
But they have to give it out sooner or later. They can't "not tell" forever. I mean customers will want to know.

Yes but they can wait until the development cycle for significant new competing content is too short.

Edit: It would be amusing if Blizzard just produced huge new content releases and then just sat on them until a competitor, confident in their timetable, announced their new MMO and then... BAM! Massive content release for WoW.

Jul 21, 2011#24

Chibibar

Chad Sexington said:
Yes but they can wait until the development cycle for significant new competing content is too short.

Edit: It would be amusing if Blizzard just produced huge new content releases and then just sat on them until a competitor, confident in their timetable, announced their new MMO and then... BAM! Massive content release for WoW.

Heh. It is a good possibility. WoW team is constantly producing stuff and maybe might have a couple of items (on the shelf) to combat competition.

Jul 21, 2011#25

Hailey Knight

Not sure I believe that; Blizzard seems to take a long time producing anything, and only in the past couple years have they even been able to get releases out on their announced date.

Not to mention, Guild Wars 2 will not be too far behind The Old Republic. Blizzard can steal the newcomers from one with a new release, but I doubt they'll have another waiting in the wings so soon.

Jul 21, 2011#26

Shegokigo

Problem is? October is Blizzcon. Since there was no expansion info last year, there WILL be some this year.

They'd be smart to release based on the info released then. Release before the WoW xpac and they're off to a good start.

Jul 21, 2011#27

Hailey Knight

Expansion info for an expansion in 2012, while they seem to intend on a holiday 2011 release--I think announcing the date after BlizzCon might be wiser, let that be the newer news story, but I'm no marketing guru, so I may have no idea.

You're leaving that at 666 hours, aren't you?

Jul 21, 2011#28

Shegokigo

We won't see the new WoW xpac till 2012 for sure, that's usually how they do it. Announce in October, release around Feb/March.

If Star Wars can do something big before then, they'll be alright. If not, they better hope they wait a few months after March till "New Xpac syndrome" wears off.

(I'm already way past the 666 mark now, probably around 680. Glad I managed to notice that timer with enough opportunity to screen cap it)

Jul 21, 2011#29

Hailey Knight

You think Feb/March 2012 for WoW's next expansion? That seems really tight to me, looking at their timeline. BC was January 2007, then Lich King in November 2008, a year and ten months, and then Cata in December 2010, two years and a month. I can't see Blizzard getting another expansion out after only another 14-15 months. Unless you mean a patch a la Black Temple or whatnot. That I could totally see.

Jul 21, 2011#30

Shegokigo

Well yeah, I meant content update. Ala, Deathwing.

Jul 21, 2011#31

Hailey Knight

I've been out of it so long I entirely forgot about Deathwing.

Jul 21, 2011#32

Shegokigo

Same here, I'm mostly biding my time with RIFT till Star Wars to be honest.

Jul 21, 2011#33

Gusto

Chad Sexington said:
I think you each get to make the decision, but the majority will win out, however, if you chose to say, spare a life and the team votes such that guy was still killed, you earn the light side points (not sure about faction/rep), even though that character is now dead for you.

I'm pretty sure this is exactly what will happen.

Jul 21, 2011#34

Hailey Knight

I'm almost thinking of doing monthly pay on a new comp just to get to play.

Jul 22, 2011#35

Chibibar

My wife and I just place our pre-order in store. So we can play together (we play SWG for 2 years before we quit)

Jul 24, 2011#36

Hailey Knight

I like how Amazon has no clue what's going on. December 31st release date, huh? Says who? And it's only supported by Windows XP and Vista? HA.

Jul 25, 2011#37

Ravenpoe

Quotemander Prime said:
I like how Amazon has no clue what's going on. December 31st release date, huh? Says who? And it's only supported by Windows XP and Vista? HA.

That's what it defaults to when they don't have the information to put in.

Aug 6, 2011#38

Jay

Woo, just got in the SWTOR beta... downloading the client now.

Empire.... here I come.

Aug 6, 2011#39

Shegokigo

Argh! Jealous!!!

Aug 6, 2011#40

Jay

Download almost complete.... mmmm.... Imp Agent goodness at my fingertips

Aug 6, 2011#41

Jay

nevermind, another 20gig download...

Aug 6, 2011#42

Frankie Williamson

Which side is the most populated?

Gotta download all the voice actings.

Aug 6, 2011#43

Jay

No idea, the beta just started. I'd assume Republic.

Aug 6, 2011#44

Gusto

Goddamnit Jay.

Aug 6, 2011#45

Shegokigo

I hates it, the thief has the preceioussssssss!

Aug 6, 2011#46

Jay

Came back... still 2.5 gigs to go...

I have canceled plans for tomorrow though.

Aug 6, 2011#47

Jay

Installed Main Assets and Main Assets 2 and now downloading another 8 GIGs

So far it's been 30 Gigs.

Aug 6, 2011#48

Hailey Knight

Shegokigo said:
I hates it, the thief has the preceioussssssss!

Debatable, considering he's been downloading this all day.

Aug 6, 2011#49

Frankie Williamson

30 fucking gigs. That's alotta voice actings!

Aug 6, 2011#50

Hailey Knight

I think I won't be getting this one on Steam.

Aug 6, 2011#51

Jay

If your bandwidth has a cap, nope, no steam.

Aug 7, 2011#52

Jay

Download complete. However, the beta starts officially Tuesday night.

From what I read, I've managed to get in the first wave of Closed Betas.... which apparently from several sources are less than 10k.

What are the odds.

Aug 7, 2011#53

Shegokigo

Too high....

Aug 7, 2011#54

Jay

In two days this screen goes by by.... gotta keep myself busy then.

Aug 8, 2011#55

bigcountry23

Jay said:
Download complete. However, the beta starts officially Tuesday night.

From what I read, I've managed to get in the first wave of Closed Betas.... which apparently from several sources are less than 10k.

What are the odds.

Never tell me the odds...

To Cliche?

Aug 8, 2011#56

Disconnected

are in need OF support
or
~~are in~~ need support.

Aug 9, 2011#57

Jay

Tonight, I dine in Korriban!

Aug 9, 2011#58

Chibibar

bleh. lucky. no beta for me yet

Aug 9, 2011#59

TheBrew

It is probably really stupid of me, but I pre-ordered the CE. I will probably sell the statue, but I want a lot of the other goodies and I have a good amount of disposable income.

The gameplay videos look awesome and the content looks compelling. I want to roll a Jedi Sage or an Imperial Agent.

Aug 9, 2011#60

Jay

2 more hours....

Aug 9, 2011#61

Cheesy1

Man, I'd let Jay suck someone's dick to be able to get in on the beta!

Aug 9, 2011#62

Jay

As a white person I don't need to suck a dick to play SWTOR.

Aug 9, 2011#63

Adammon

Jay said:
As a white person I don't need to suck a dick to play SWTOR.

Less chatting, more playing and screenshots!

Aug 9, 2011#64

Jay

45 minutes...

Aug 9, 2011#65

Shegokigo

He can't post screenshots, it's currently in closed beta.

So what does he do? Mid conversation with him on STEAM he goes and opens up the Beta.....

Aug 9, 2011#66

Jay

Aug 9, 2011#67

Shegokigo

He did it with such a surgical strike comedy precision I couldn't even be mad...... long anyway.

Aug 9, 2011#68

Adammon

Shegokigo said:
He can't post screenshots, it's currently in closed beta.

So what does he do? Mid conversation with him on STEAM he goes and opens up the Beta.....

Oh pfft. Like anyone cares about those anyways.

Aug 9, 2011#69

Hailey Knight

I'll agree with Shego's sentiment though; Jay's pretty cool.

Aug 9, 2011#70

Jay

You know what is cool? Playing a game for 4 hours straight and experiencing no lag, no disconnects, no bullshit but great gaming and solid grouping the first night the beta comes out.

This has NEVER happened before.

Aug 10, 2011#71

Jay

Fantastic game session. There are bugs, albeit minor ones and the product isn't refined but the most important thing was server stability and it was there. Lots of interesting quests, grouping WHILE doing quests take on a brand new level of social interactions.

Being evil feels good in this game.

Aug 10, 2011#72

LordRendar

I cant wait for it to hit the Gameshelves ^^ Will there be a EU server? or will it be International?

Aug 10, 2011#73

Chibibar

Jay said:
Fantastic game session. There are bugs, albeit minor ones and the product isn't refined but the most important thing was server stability and it was there. Lots of interesting quests, grouping WHILE doing quests take on a brand new level of social interactions.

Being evil feels good in this game.

Wow. that good huh?

I'm jealous.
Have they release the price point for subs yet?
(I can't find it)

Aug 10, 2011#74

TheBrew

Jay said:
Fantastic game session. There are bugs, albeit minor ones and the product isn't refined but the most important thing was server stability and it was there. Lots of interesting quests, grouping WHILE doing quests take on a brand new level of social interactions.

Being evil feels good in this game.

Sounds like the gameplay is compelling. How are the mechanics? Or is that NDA breaking?

Aug 10, 2011#75

Jay

Grouping is a LOT of fun. Imagine a cross between Star Wars and Mass Effect 2 when ALL members of the party participate in discussions? When someone gets the highest roll, their choice appears on the screen. Hilarious moments.

Aug 10, 2011#76

Jay

oh, i'm a like whore.

Aug 10, 2011#77

Frankie Williamson

As cool as it is to see, you should probably avoid all that breaking your NDA.

Aug 10, 2011#78

Adammon

Frankie Williamson said:
As cool as it is to see, you should probably avoid all that breaking your NDA.

Ignore the sensible Canadian, listen to the crazy Canadian! more more!

Aug 10, 2011#79

Frankie Williamson

Yes, DON'T LISTEN TO ME!

Aug 10, 2011#80

Hailey Knight

I'm not liking it, because I want Jay to be able to keep going, and I'd rather he took it down so he didn't have a risk of getting kicked out.

Aug 10, 2011#81

Ravenpoe

Did I miss something cool? Goddammit.

Anyone want to PM me the good stuff?*

*by good stuff, I don't mean porn**

**unless it's really good porn

Aug 11, 2011#82

TheBrew

You don't want the really good porn, it will ruin the average porn.

Aug 11, 2011#83

Shegokigo

^
Pretty much that.

Aug 11, 2011#84

Jay

Another pic will be up for 15 minutes around 7 PM if I get 5 likes.

PM me requests. You may be lucky.

Aug 11, 2011#85

Jay

No likes? No screens then.

Aug 11, 2011#86

Hailey Knight

Good. Keep playing, not risking losing it just to show us. I'd rather you keep testing the good test.

Aug 13, 2011#87

AshburnerX

What's the deal with races in this? They really haven't said anything at all about it.

Aug 13, 2011#88

Jay

Races don't matter.

Aug 13, 2011#89

AshburnerX

Jay said:
Races don't matter.

So it's all cosmetic? That's good. But what I was asking is if they actually had a lot of choices.

Aug 13, 2011#90

Jay

No more than one has fingers in one's hand.

Then again, each new experience has sometimes almost all new fingers.

Aug 13, 2011#91

AshburnerX

Close enough.

Aug 14, 2011#92

Jay

PVP is addicting like hell. The Battlegrounds are FUN.

Aug 14, 2011#93

Jay

Would folks be inclined if I held a Ventrilo meeting and fielded your questions?

Aug 15, 2011#94

Jay

Aug 16, 2011#95

SpecialKO

To anyone having a slow work-day, not at work yet, or for whom this may qualify as "research"...

http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/08/16/ea-livestreaming-the-old-republic-at-10-00-a-m-edt/
Added at: 10:00
Also: http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/08/15/thats-no-moon-its-the-old-republics-guild-testing-program/

Aug 16, 2011#96

Jay

Oh, just got an email from EA, seems like I can invite a friend.

Aug 16, 2011#97

Cheesy1

MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aug 16, 2011#98

Ravenpoe

Should we all just get on our knees now, or later?

Aug 16, 2011#99

Gusto

Kevin Miller.

Aug 16, 2011#100

Chibibar

Jay said:
Oh, just got an email from EA, seems like I can invite a friend.

Jay. I hate you.....

Actually I would normally might beg for it, I just don't have the time to play so other forumite can give it a whirl (I'll just enjoy the pictures for now)

Aug 16, 2011#101

Jay

Whoa... been offered money? How nice! I do indeed accept bribes.

Aug 16, 2011#102

Hailey Knight

Wooooooooo... pretty.

Aug 16, 2011#103

Frankie Williamson

I'd beg, but I'm certain that despite my upgrades to my PC, I'd have issues running the game.

CALLBACK

Aug 16, 2011#104

Jay

I'm running it at max settings, with no problem what so ever. This game is about as solid as an MMO can ever be. Maybe I should hold that vent meeting.

Aug 16, 2011#105

Frankie Williamson

I know, it was a callback to the old days when you would constantly mock the issues I had playing games.

I'm sure an i7 2600K and 2 6950s can run it just fine.

Aug 16, 2011#106

Jay

Frank, I'd love nothing more than to play games with you buddy. Hopefully you got a better PC in hand.... zombies don't care if you lag or not when they'll EAT YOU.

Aug 16, 2011#107

Chibibar

Jay said:
I'm running it at max settings, with no problem what so ever. This game is about as solid as an MMO can ever be. Maybe I should hold that vent meeting.

That is good to hear. It might be a good contender against the current MMO "champ"

I hope they decide to release soon since rumors about a new expansion is "leaked" (I forgot where I read it but it was done similar to Lich King and Cataclysm leak.)

Aug 17, 2011#108

TNM

Jay, you make me happy. I'm so glad I pre-ordered this game.

Aug 20, 2011#109

AshburnerX

It looks like EA is limiting availability of this game at launch to ensure people can actually get in to play.

EA confirms launch copies of SWTOR will be limited.

This is both smart and really, really stupid. On one hand, it means the game will actually be playable at launch. On the other hand, it also means that guilds, friends, and families are going to fragmented, really hurting cohesion. No one wants to be left out and no one wants to be without their friends. Why would you buy a game if you didn't know if your friends would be able to get in?

Aug 20, 2011#110

LordRendar

Guess i need to go Camp in front of our Electrionic Store

Aug 20, 2011#111

Telephius

AshburnerX said:
It looks like EA is limiting availability of this game at launch to ensure people can actually get in to play.

EA confirms launch copies of SWTOR will be limited.

This is both smart and really, really stupid. On one hand, it means the game will actually be playable at launch. On the other hand, it also means that guilds, friends, and families are going to fragmented, really hurting cohesion. No one wants to be left out and no one wants to be without their friends. Why would you buy a game if you didn't know if your friends would be able to get in?

The fanatci of the game will still camp the second wave of purchase though and giving advance warning allows them and their friends/family to plan contingencies. A casually follower who doesnt follow news, etc would probably think the game is selling really well when they find its sold out and will just wait till they can buy it like they would do any other game(That they can't pirate...that was for Gas ;p.)

Not ideal but better than Mythic's make a bunch of servers to prevents server crashes(aka classic wow launch) but end up having to merge 80% of them after the hype wears down and drive off people like me who played it casually but kept getting put off by having to find out where my guildies all moved to.

Aug 20, 2011#112

Hailey Knight

I can't really fault them considering what happened with WAR. To grow the server capacity with the enforced size of player base will keep people from ditching WoW for it, getting frustrated with either queue times or empty servers, and just returning to WoW in the end. This will enforce demand, and when people get to play once the next wave of servers and sales comes through, they won't have anything to rage over when they encounter a stable server with a healthy, manageable population.

Aug 20, 2011#113

Jay

Or they want a shitload of people to commit to pre-orders.

Aug 20, 2011#114

Hailey Knight

They're limiting those too. The purchasing cap for both physical and digital is guaranteed to cap--your pre-order is apparently not a release day promise.

Aug 22, 2011#115

TheBrew

This might be one of those times where it is better to go to Gamestop as I assume each one is garunteed to have at least some stock on release day. Good thing I pre-ordered at an out of the way Gamestop.

Sep 24, 2011#116

Hailey Knight

Ships December 20th.

Sep 24, 2011#117

Frankie Williamson

What an awesome way to shit in your employee's mouths.

Sep 24, 2011#118

Jay

Mmmmm.....

Stage 2 Beta is due to start any day now.

Sep 26, 2011#119

Jay

Woooo, got reinvited again!

Sep 27, 2011#120

Jay

And I can invite a friend now!

Sep 27, 2011#121

Chibibar

As much I would LOVE to go, "ME ME ME" I barely have time

I may not be able to put in the hours of proper Beta like I use to do

Sep 27, 2011#122

Shegokigo

Pretty much what Chibi said. I have like an hour or so of playtime during the week, and honestly I've spent most of my free time with "playtime" more than being at home.

Hope the invite goes to a good home.

Sep 27, 2011#123

Ravenpoe

Jay said:
And I can invite a friend now!

I'll do things... Things no one else will. I'll make you see god.

Sep 27, 2011#124

LordRendar

I just ask plain and simply, "Can you invite me."

Sep 27, 2011#125

Dei

LordRendar said:
I just ask plain and simply, "Can you invite me."

Sep 27, 2011#126

Gusto

Last time you implied people were offering you money and I certainly ain't gonna do that.

Sep 27, 2011#127

Jay

Sweet Sweet SWTOR... how I have missed thee the last 2 weeks... Imperial Agents are soooo much fun.

Sep 28, 2011#128

Jay

Friend pass has been given away so you stop sending me PMs.

*puts his 10$ bill in his wallet*

Sep 29, 2011#129

AshburnerX

I apparently got an invite to the the previous phase of the ToR beta, as I just got emails from them thanking me for testing. I NEVER GOT AN EMAIL FROM THEM TELLING ME I WAS IN IT. Christ man... I may not have been able to play it, but I could have at least let someone else use the account in the mean time.

EDIT: Oh wait. No I didn't. And I wasn't the only one who got that fucking email ether.

Sep 29, 2011#130

bigcountry23

Sep 29, 2011#131

Ravenpoe

AshburnerX said:
I apparently got an invite to the the previous phase of the ToR beta, as I just got emails from them thanking me for testing. I NEVER GOT AN EMAIL FROM THEM TELLING ME I WAS IN IT. Christ man... I may not have been able to play it, but I could have at least let someone else use the account in the mean time.

EDIT: Oh wait. No I didn't. And I wasn't the only one who got that fucking email ether.

I WAS FREAKING OUT!

I just got that same email

Sep 29, 2011#132

Frankie Williamson

AshburnerX said:
I apparently got an invite to the the previous phase of the ToR beta, as I just got emails from them thanking me for testing. I NEVER GOT AN EMAIL FROM THEM TELLING ME I WAS IN IT. Christ man... I may not have been able to play it, but I could have at least let someone else use the account in the mean time.

EDIT: Oh wait. No I didn't. And I wasn't the only one who got that fucking email ether.

Yeah, I got it too.

Sep 30, 2011#133

General Specific

Me too

Sep 30, 2011#134

SpecialKO

I got it, too, and the header info doesn't look quite right. Domain passes, but the IP-check and actual email ID do not. I wouldn't click any of those links, if I were you.
Added at: 10:22
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=514549

Yes from BioWare/EA, but should not have been sent. Completely accidental.

Sep 30, 2011#135

AshburnerX

Going to be pre-ordering my digital deluxe version in a few hours.

EDIT: And done. Except now they won't let me log into my Origin account. Or check their help section. So now I'm wondering if they are still going to charge me for the game, but deny me a way to play it.

Sep 30, 2011#136

AshburnerX

Where do I download the Origin client?

Sep 30, 2011#137

SpecialKO

Did you try http://www.origin.com/us/about?

Oct 1, 2011#138

AshburnerX

SpecialKO said:
Did you try http://www.origin.com/us/about?

See, I was getting redirected directly to the store front... where there is no download.

EDIT: Oh i see why it's not accepting my password... it changed to match my SWTOR one.

Oct 3, 2011#139

Kovac

I assume that TOR will have guilds in some form or another.

Has there been any discussion anywhere of a halforum group?

Oct 3, 2011#140

AshburnerX

Kovac said:
I assume that TOR will have guilds in some form or another.

Has there been any discussion anywhere of a halforum group?

Not really, but now would be the time to bring it up. You'd need consensus on whether your playing as the Republic or the Sith.

Oct 3, 2011#141

Gusto

Kovac said:
I assume that TOR will have guilds in some form or another.

Has there been any discussion anywhere of a halforum group?

I've made a thread about a guild I'm starting IRL with some friends of mine, that you or someone else name Kovac_nz already joined.

Oct 3, 2011#142

Jay

Not that I care for it much but there should be another guild because... well it's Republic and on a PVP server. Garbage.

As one who has played extensively in the closed beta the last thing I want is to repeatedly get ganked while questing. Quest worlds are pretty big and once you get to Nar Shaddaa you'll bump into a lot of people in the other faction. And I mean you'll be many many people in the same zone. So unless you're constantly grouped expect non-stop harassment and running back to whatever you were previously doing which can take upwards to 5 minutes and dying doesn't take much.

As far as PVP goes, battlegrounds are very satisfying and fun to play. They have a very nice "auto-balance" feature and I'm usually in a battleground within 30 seconds when I want to. I love Hutt ball.

Oct 3, 2011#143

AshburnerX

I'm still waiting to hear details on races. Everything I've seen so far looks really humanoid... like they didn't want to make any extra models.

Oct 3, 2011#144

Jay

Several race options, probably 8 or so.

Oct 3, 2011#145

AshburnerX

Jay said:
Several race options, probably 8 or so.

Yeah, but are we talking ALIEN aliens like Ithorians and Mon Calamari, or are we talking mostly human shaped ones like Twi'leks, Iridians, and Zeltrons? Because all the trailers indicate that it's the latter and not the former.

Oct 3, 2011#146

Jay

Neither of those are in, nor are Bothans if I recall.

Oct 3, 2011#147

Ravenpoe

Jay said:
Neither of those are in, nor are Bothans if I recall.

The bothans all died bringing us this game.

Oct 3, 2011#148

Kovac

Gusto said:
I've made a thread about a guild I'm starting IRL with some friends of mine, that you or someone else name Kovac_nz already joined.

I had a feeling that I might have done so at some point but I couldn't find the thread

Oct 3, 2011#149

Telephius

Kovac said:
I assume that TOR will have guilds in some form or another.

Has there been any discussion anywhere of a halforum group?

There is a website that STWOR has that allows you to precreate a guild and pre join it so that you get an instant invite when you create a character on that server as well :
http://www.swtor.com/guilds

Oct 3, 2011#150

Gusto

I'll just leave this here...

http://www.swtor.com/guilds/68171/i-bent-my-wookiee/roster

Oct 3, 2011#151

Hailey Knight

Telephius said:
There is a website that STWOR has that allows you to precreate a guild and pre join it so that you get an instant invite when you create a character on that server as well :
http://www.swtor.com/guilds

Damn, these guys are on the ball. No wonder DA2 was a rushed suck-job; they've been diving their A-game into this.

Oct 3, 2011#152

AshburnerX

Jay said:
Neither of those are in, nor are Bothans if I recall.

See, that's kinda boring. I realize the old Star Wars game took years to get them, but I really enjoyed being able to look like a freaking alien.

Quotemander Prime said:
Damn, these guys are on the ball. No wonder DA2 was a rushed suck-job; they've been diving their A-game into this.

It's also the reason why Warhammer Online sucks so much: More than half the team got shifted to ToR once it was released.

Oct 3, 2011#153

SpecialKO

AshburnerX said:
It's also the reason why Warhammer Online sucks so much: More than half the team got shifted to ToR once it was released.

Sir, you are delusional!! :mad:

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Warhammer Online sucked at least 8 months before that.

Oct 20, 2011#154

Telephius

Press embargo has been lifted today and here is a thread from official forums that has links to a bunch of press sight beta previews:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=559735

Oct 20, 2011#155

Jay

Beta Testing Phase 3 will start shortly... for sure.

Oct 22, 2011#156

Cuyval Dar

I'll certainly be up for this. Hopefully I can get a new laptop before the launch date.

Oct 24, 2011#157

PotaDOS

I pre-ordered this but recently cancelled it due to some major suckitude on EA's part. Did you know if you pre-order, and have to change your payment information for some reason, you actually have to call them to cancel your pre-order, then order it again? I was told by a number of customer service representatives that there was literally no way for them to change my information, even though my credit card was stolen and subsequently cancelled for security.

"Doesn't that mean I lose my spot in the early access?" "Well, um, I... yes..." "Uhhhh." "Sorry."

That was after I fought with their account services site for an entire night trying to cancel another account I had with them.

Oct 24, 2011#158

Jay

EA sucks in that regard big time. No shock there.

Sorry you had to go through that.

Oct 25, 2011#159

Kovac

PotaDOS said:
I pre-ordered this but recently cancelled it due to some major suckitude on EA's part. Did you know if you pre-order, and have to change your payment information for some reason, you actually have to call them to cancel your pre-order, then order it again? I was told by a number of customer service representatives that there was literally no way for them to change my information, even though my credit card was stolen and subsequently cancelled for security.

"Doesn't that mean I lose my spot in the early access?" "Well, um, I... yes..." "Uhhhh." "Sorry."

That was after I fought with their account services site for an entire night trying to cancel another account I had with them.

So if my bank was to send me a new credit card (Not because I asked for a new one but because they have implemented a new feature) with the same number but a different expiration date would I run into problems?

Oct 25, 2011#160

PotaDOS

Kovac said:
So if my bank was to send me a new credit card (Not because I asked for a new one but because they have implemented a new feature) with the same number but a different expiration date would I run into problems?

Probably. I'd call and ask. There's a feature on their site where they'll call you, but all three times I did it the quality of the call was terrible. I could barely understand most of their side of the conversation.

Nov 7, 2011#161

Dei

I'm seriously wishing I had pre-ordered through Amazon instead of Origin because of this nonsense with not being able to change payment info. Thanks local movie theater for getting your shit hacked and thus my bank automatically issuing me a new card just to be safe.

EDIT: After browsing around the forums some, it seems people are having success at changing payment info over the phone (as a recent change). People are also saying that they will give you a chance to change your payment info if the charge fails on release day. So I guess I'll try calling and see what happens, and if it doesn't work, I'll just wait it out.

Nov 7, 2011#162

Jay

Jeez

Nov 8, 2011#163

Frankie Williamson

If TOR = Origin.

Nope, the galaxy can go fuck itself.

Nov 8, 2011#164

LordRendar

I want to play this soooo badly.but with Orgin? I rather not.

Nov 8, 2011#165

AshburnerX

Actually, you don't NEED Origin to play. If you buy a digital deluxe version then yeah, you need it to download the game, but it updates through the game itself and doesn't launch via Origin. They've actually been pretty clear about this.

That being said, it's clearly only a matter of time before they combine ToR fullying Origin. They already make your Origin password match your ToR website one if you have the digital version.

Nov 8, 2011#166

Ravenpoe

Dammit, we need to form an order to fight back against origin. Some kind of Jedi order..

Nov 8, 2011#167

Jay

It's disheartening that TOR may or may not have ANYTHING to do with Origin or have EA play a bigger role than most publishers do. For the longest time this game was in my cart and all I needed to do was to press "Purchase". In the end, the Beta convinced me that this is NOT just another MMO. This is not, JapCrap. This is a great game, with great lore and the Dev team were working VERY HARD on fixing bugs. Their service convinced me to buy this game.

Then it took 2 hours to get the confirmation email that I bought the game... and for some reason the charges weren't the same.... I took a step back... bent over.... am currently waiting to get ass fucked by Origin any day now.

Nov 8, 2011#168

Snuffleupagus

Just got a beta invite.

Nov 9, 2011#169

Frankie Williamson

Yeah, me too. I think it's probably a stress testing weekend.
Added at: 00:10
Hey, you don't need Origin for anything. Dig it.

Nov 9, 2011#170

AshburnerX

Frankie Williamson said:
Hey, you don't need Origin for anything. Dig it.

Like I said, you only need Origin if you bought the Digital Deluxe Edition.

Nov 9, 2011#171

Frankie Williamson

Cool, then I may get TOR, depending on how much I enjoy this obvious stress test weekend thing beta. Beta = demo to 99% of MMO beta testing assholes like me!

Nov 9, 2011#172

Frankie Williamson

Man, I'm glad they gave a couple of days notice to download it. At the rate it's going Sunday may be optimistic. Only getting about 50 KB/s.

Nov 9, 2011#173

AshburnerX

I have NO IDEA how I'm going to be able to get it downloaded before the pre-order beta. The beta client had better work for the final product or it's going to be a nightmare that first week.

Nov 9, 2011#174

Gusto

My friend and I both got invites this morning. I'm excited!

Nov 9, 2011#175

Dei

I hate you all. <3

Nov 9, 2011#176

Far

Got one last night as well, however I have a feeling most of this weekend will be spent in skyrim. Will probably jump on for a bit, if I can.

Nov 9, 2011#177

Telephius

Though I assume all the e-mails went out by now, I would still check your account under the test center to see if yuou are invited, I thought I missed this round as I saw all the forum posts about mass Canadians getting in and did not have an e-mail myself but I checked the test center and I was invited. I lso recieved the invite e-mail the next day, also if I try to reset my password I don't get that e-mail till the next day. Just letting some of you who may have not gotten an invite just to double check before giving up.

Nov 9, 2011#178

RoboKomodo

Got an invite this afternoon too.
Just finishing downloading the client (after almost 7 hours).
Pumped to get on over the weekend!

EDIT: Errr...nevermind. The progress bar is full, but now it says it's got another 7.5 gigs to download...who knows how long it'll be after that...

Nov 9, 2011#179

Jay

There's 15 more gigs to download.

So yeah.

Nov 10, 2011#180

AshburnerX

They are being REALLY irresponsible about the file size of this thing...

Nov 10, 2011#181

bigcountry23

Two people on my SW:TOR FB page got invites, but not me. Why do you hate me Bioware?!? I promised to put off Skyrim for you, and this is how you treat me?

Nov 10, 2011#182

Jay

The game is well over a 40 gig download... so yeah. Watch your bandwidth.... especially since this is the 3rd... maybe even 4th wipe... each wipe = new client.

Plus the game is coming out next month... so...

Nov 10, 2011#183

Gusto

So far everyone I know who's preordered has got an invite within the last couple days.

Nov 10, 2011#184

Dei

Yeah.... If only that was actually the case. :/

Nov 10, 2011#185

Frankie Williamson

Gusto said:
So far everyone I know who's preordered has got an invite within the last couple days.

It sounds like it's been a lot of Canadians getting into this round. Almost everyone I know signed up for it got in too.

Nov 10, 2011#186

Gusto

Haha, yep.

My guild is texting me like gangbusters over the guild deployment too.

Nov 10, 2011#187

Shakey

I got an invite, but I have no internets at home anymore. I also didn't preorder.

Nov 10, 2011#188

bigcountry23

Shakey said:
I got an invite, but I have no internets at home anymore. I also didn't preorder.

I would be happy to jump on that grenade for you.

Nov 10, 2011#189

Shakey

It's tied to my account, I don't think I can pass it to other people.

Nov 10, 2011#190

TNM

Are the beta invites for the digital copy only?

Nov 10, 2011#191

AshburnerX

This isn't the beta access you get with your pre-order. That happens 5 days before launch.

Nov 10, 2011#192

TNM

Gotcha, thanks. Good thing I opted for next day shipping from Amazon then.

Nov 11, 2011#193

bigcountry23

I just got an e-mail saying I've been selected and I think, Woot, I'm in for the weekend, but then come to find out, it's for "an upcoming weekend" meaning the "open" weekend for anyone who signed on before 11/11/11. Congrats SW:TOR, you have officially Beta blue balled me...

Nov 11, 2011#194

Gusto

Yup. Officially everyone who signed up for testing on or before yesterday will get an invite for "an upcoming weekend".

Nov 11, 2011#195

Chibibar

Woo I'm in! but SWTOR site is down for maintenance

Nov 11, 2011#196

Dei

If you *just* got an email, you aren't in this weekend. It's for the next one.

Nov 11, 2011#197

bigcountry23

/hugs Chibibar
It's ok, we'll get through this together...

Nov 11, 2011#198

TNM

bigcountry23 said:
I just got an e-mail saying I've been selected and I think, Woot, I'm in for the weekend, but then come to find out, it's for "an upcoming weekend" meaning the "open" weekend for anyone who signed on before 11/11/11. Congrats SW:TOR, you have officially Beta blue balled me...

Yeah pretty much this. I read this email as I was walking out of the office expecting a great beta weekend but no. Damn you SW:TOR that was just mean.

Nov 11, 2011#199

Shegokigo

I did not pre-order and I have a beta invite for this weekend. Interesting.

Nov 12, 2011#200

Frankie Williamson

Got a beta invite this weekend, as did 12 million other people. Every server has like a 10000 person queue.

Playing Skyrim instead.

Nov 12, 2011#201

Far

I got into to a server no problem and was playing for several hours tonight.

Nov 12, 2011#202

Vrii

Download too big, no way I can fit it under my bandwidth cap. Oh well.

Nov 12, 2011#203

Frankie Williamson

Well, played it for like 10 minutes tonight. I was feeling like I was playing Knights of the Old Republic WoW. Now, don't get me wrong. That's preferable to plain WoW.

Skyrim wins.

BACK TO SKYRIM!

HAH HAH MOH HAH! DEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!

Nov 12, 2011#204

Cheesy1

Was invited into this weekend. Took three days to download the thing (which should have been a clue of what was to come). Go to play, and it won't show anything and then freezes up my computer. Have tried it several times, updated drivers and whatnot, and still the same outcome. Well, I guess it was better to find out this way before buying it. Time to move my preorder money to Mass Effect 3.

Nov 12, 2011#205

Frankie Williamson

Dude, it's a stress beta, not a demo.

Nov 12, 2011#206

Shegokigo

^
Pretty much what Frankie said.

I wish the NDA was lifted, I have some sweet story screens to post!

Nov 12, 2011#207

Cheesy1

It's not a "getting in" issue, it's my computer that's being a ass. My monitor will show "Input Not Valid" and then my computer freezes. Black screen, no sound, no getting out of the program, nothing. My machine is just too old, and I'm too poor to upgrade anything or get a new rig.

Nov 12, 2011#208

RoboKomodo

Played for half a dozen hours so far this weekend. Servers just went down for maintenance. Guess I'll have to find something else to do for a while...

Nov 12, 2011#209

Shegokigo

Can I say that the combat system in TOR is freaking amazing? So fluid and natural. Feels like I'm actually fighting something vs pretty buttons as I stand stationary with a target.

Nov 12, 2011#210

Gusto

I have very much enjoyed the ~10 hours I've put into SW:TOR so far. Excluding bugs of course.

Nov 13, 2011#211

General Specific

I've gotten to play a bit over at my friend's house. Very excited about the game. i also recently received a notice that I have been invited to "an upcoming beta weekend." I hope that means next weekend.

Nov 14, 2011#212

Gusto

I had a great time playing minus a few (in my mind) easily-resolved bugs.

Nov 14, 2011#213

RoboKomodo

Gusto said:
I had a great time playing minus a few (in my mind) easily-resolved bugs.

Same. Some minor graphical issues. Sad that all the characters get wiped though....and I was just about to get my ship!

Nov 14, 2011#214

Gusto

I played 2 characters to level 11 (Bounty Hunter and Jedi Knight) and before the wipe, I recreated them with a couple minor edits in the character builder so that I could take notes on their appearance slider numbers. I modeled my Jedi Knight to look like my old DnD 4e Monk and she was friggin' adorable. The voice even seemed right.

Nov 14, 2011#215

Snuffleupagus

So we're gonna have a guild right? Because I'm addicted and hate playing games like this alone.

Nov 14, 2011#216

Gusto

My PVP-server Empire guild:

http://www.swtor.com/guilds/68171/i-bent-my-wookiee

Nov 14, 2011#217

Snuffleupagus

Huh. Guess I joined it on April 13th.

Nov 14, 2011#218

RoboKomodo

Ehhh.....I'd join, but I want to play Republic and PvE!!!

Nov 19, 2011#219

Telephius

Btw the NDA islifted as of today
Added at: 04:42
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=630104 just for confirmation

Nov 21, 2011#220

Dei

I'm honestly considering spending my quality time this weekend with Skyward Sword with only a sprinkling of beta. As much fun as the game is, I really don't want to spoil all the starter story lines for myself.

Nov 25, 2011#221

TNM

I don't want this beta weekend to end. Dec 15th can't come soon enough.

Nov 26, 2011#222

AshburnerX

Just found out that your abilities don't auto-update on your bar when you train new ones. This explains why I was having so much trouble on my Trooper, but my Bounty Hunter kicks ass.

Nov 26, 2011#223

Gusto

AshburnerX said:
Just found out that your abilities don't auto-update on your bar when you train new ones. This explains why I was having so much trouble on my Trooper, but my Bounty Hunter kicks ass.

Whoa, WHAT.

Nov 26, 2011#224

AshburnerX

I think it's a bug. I've just been dragging on the new ones. I'm pretty sure WoW did the same thing for awhile too.

Nov 26, 2011#225

Vrii

I'm actually playing a bit this weekend. Thoroughly unimpressed so far, feels like it would have made a much, much better single player game. I'll put some more time in and see if that changes, though.

Nov 27, 2011#226

AshburnerX

Vrii said:
I'm actually playing a bit this weekend. Thoroughly unimpressed so far, feels like it would have made a much, much better single player game. I'll put some more time in and see if that changes, though.

I'm really enjoying the Bounty Hunter storyline, but yeah... it does kind of feel like it would have been a better single player game. Also, I'm kinda hating the "crafting mission" system. Sending my companion off for a few minutes should be punishment enough, I shouldn't have to PAY for the privilege, especially if there is a failure chance.

Nov 27, 2011#227

Jay

It's far less of an issue once you have a few companions or you're in a group mission.

Nov 27, 2011#228

AshburnerX

Jay said:
It's far less of an issue once you have a few companions or you're in a group mission.

Again, the time isn't the issue. Losing my companion for awhile isn't the issue. The issue is that I have to PAY for it and it's the only way to get some resources... and I have no control over what I'll get at time. I don't want schematics when I sent somebody out for metal.

I've played to 17 now and I gotta say... it's a great game. My crafting issues aside, I really don't have any complaints aside from the lack of races. I mean seriously... no Wookies? No Mon Calamari? No Ithorians? No Zeltrans? It seems like their already holding back a lot of requested stuff just to make money in the expansions.

Nov 27, 2011#229

Frankie Williamson

AshburnerX said:
I really don't have any complaints aside from the lack of races. I mean seriously... no Wookies? No Mon Calamari? No Ithorians? No Zeltrans? It seems like their already holding back a lot of requested stuff just to make money in the expansions.

Of course, need to leave space for expansions.

Nov 27, 2011#230

AshburnerX

Yeah, but considering just how MASSIVE the Star Wars Expanded Universe was, that was never really an issue.

Nov 27, 2011#231

Jay

Nov 27, 2011#232

AshburnerX

Also, let me make this clear... this game? It's ALREADY massive. My nitpicks are minor. I just kinda wish I had wookies.

Nov 27, 2011#233

Jay

Played it 2 times to LVL 30ish. Once an Imperial Agent, once a Jedi Councillor. Was addicted.

My only REAL gripe? The rail shooter for space missions. I fucken hated that decision most of all.

Nov 27, 2011#234

AshburnerX

I actually don't mind the rail shooter aspect. Yes, it's not as good as the mini-TIE Fighter inspired flight from Galaxies, but because it's a set path, they can make each mission feel more alive. It's much more exciting and cinematic.

Nov 27, 2011#235

Terrik

I got my beta invite, tried to log in, got the message "You are logging in from an area we don't allow people to play from".

LAWL.

Actually, makes me doubt my decision to order the game. Will I not be able to play? Or are they blocking access just in regards to beta? I really don't know.

Dec 7, 2011#236

Jay

Just got a Pre-Load email... downloading....

Dec 7, 2011#237

Dei

Weren't you in the beta Jay? That build is valid last I heard.

Dec 7, 2011#238

Jay

Didn't play the last beta. After 2 I had my share of the game.

Dec 7, 2011#239

AshburnerX

Got mine as well. I'll start downloading it tomorrow.

EDIT: Ugh... I shouldn't have uninstalled my beta. It was still good and I would have only needed to update it. Oh well... I can get it done tomorrow.

Dec 8, 2011#240

Dei

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/world-of-warcraft-machinima-blizz-blues-12-days-of-smack-talkin/

Dec 8, 2011#241

AshburnerX

Did anyone else do the Digital Deluxe edition? If so, what code do I need to put in to get my 30 days of free time and the final edition? Or does the pre-order code cover all of that?

Dec 8, 2011#242

Dei

I'm sure they'll give you another code once payment is done/the game is out for real.

Dec 10, 2011#243

CrimsonSoul

Do you guys already have a guild together? if not some of my friends that I've played with for years has one (republic on a PvP server) come say hi to them at claninexile.com if you do they are pretty open to anyone and everyone as long as you like to have fun.

Dec 10, 2011#244

AshburnerX

Yeah, they already have one. It's called I Bent My Wookie.

Dec 10, 2011#245

LordRendar

Will there be a 7-Day Trial? Or do I have to buy it,without testing it.

Dec 10, 2011#246

AshburnerX

LordRendar said:
Will there be a 7-Day Trial? Or do I have to buy it,without testing it.

They NEVER do a trial at launch. It'll likely be at least a year before they do it. If it helps, it plays like a better version of WoW.

I guess it's just something you learn from MMO experience: The beta IS the demo, so you'd better get in the beta if your not sure if you'll like the game.

Dec 10, 2011#247

Gusto

Typically MMOs launch with the first 30 days free without a subscription, although that sounds like the opposite of what you want. Still gotta buy the game itself.

Dec 11, 2011#248

Gusto

Tomorrow I'll know what server I Bent My Wookiee will be pre-formed on. I'll post the server name here so anyone who wants to can join up.

Dec 11, 2011#249

AshburnerX

Anyone get their early access codes yet? I didn't pre-order until Sept. so I'm not sure when I'm getting in.

Dec 11, 2011#250

CrimsonSoul

I preordered a few days ago. I doubt I'm getting in

Dec 11, 2011#251

Ravenpoe

I pre-ordered on the first day they were open to pre-order, but I have no idea where to find my code.

Dec 11, 2011#252

AshburnerX

Ravenpoe said:
I pre-ordered on the first day they were open to pre-order, but I have no idea where to find my code.

If you bought a physical copy, the pre-order code was on the receipt they gave you, or something they gave you. If you bought it via Origin, then you need to boot up Origin and get the code from there. Then you can put it in on their website. If your receipt doesn't have a code, take it to where you pre-ordered and ask them to give you one.

However, I have NO IDEA if you'll get in now, as I don't know how they track they pre-order codes. It's entirely possibly that they'll consider you a recent pre-order and simply not get the early access. You can still claim your pre-order crystal though, which is actually pretty good and very cool to see in action. It's a yellow blast with a black core, which looks stunning.

Dec 11, 2011#253

Gusto

I preordered the Digital Deluxe version, and got a 20-digit "Digital Rights" number (like a CD key) in the order confirmation email, which I redeemed immediately as the preorder code.

Dec 11, 2011#254

AshburnerX

Gusto said:
I preordered the Digital Deluxe version, and got a 20-digit "Digital Rights" number (like a CD key) in the order confirmation email, which I redeemed immediately as the preorder code.

Yeah, that's the pre-order code. But if you lost that email for whatever reason, you can just check your Origin account via Origin and the code is there as well.

Dec 11, 2011#255

Ravenpoe

I ordered from Amazon, I'll have to check and see if they sent me a code that I just missed

Dec 11, 2011#256

AshburnerX

Ravenpoe said:
I ordered from Amazon, I'll have to check and see if they sent me a code that I just missed

It'll be on the receipt or in another email they sent.

Dec 12, 2011#257

Gusto

For anyone who is interested, or may be interested at a later time, my Imperial guild I Bent My Wookiee will be forming on the PVP server Iron Citadel.

Hope to see you there!

Dec 12, 2011#258

Snuffleupagus

I'm ready to go, preorder should be coming through soon.

Dec 12, 2011#259

TNM

Is there a built-in voice chat?

Dec 12, 2011#260

AshburnerX

TNM said:
Is there a built-in voice chat?

I never saw any. I assume the Halforums group will simply use the Ventrilo server though.

Dec 13, 2011#261

bigcountry23

I'm in, playing on The Jekk'Jekk Tar. Bounty Hunter named Wolfwood, Smuggler named Malcom.

Dec 13, 2011#262

Jay

Anyone get in?

Dec 13, 2011#263

AshburnerX

From what I've heard, today is only for people who ordered on 7/21 (the first day you could pre-order). So I suspect that tomorrow will be the August people and Thursday will be the September people, going like that until they hit launch.

Dec 13, 2011#264

Dei

I'm 14 1/2 right now whee.

Dec 13, 2011#265

Ravenpoe

Apparently I redeemed my code a long time ago, because I'm in!

Dec 14, 2011#266

Gusto

16 baby.

Dec 14, 2011#267

AshburnerX

I'm in!

Dec 14, 2011#268

bigcountry23

So I found a list of Datacrons (http://www.swtor-spy.com/datacrons/) which are used for perminent skill+. I can't seem to find any listing of the security chest spawns. Anyone interested in mentioning their findings here? For example, on Hutta, at X -23, Y 313, Z -12 (in the sewer maintaince tunnels), there is a Datacron and a security chest that spawns every 7 minutes. The chest has between 85 and 130 credits, green armor, and medpac, stim, or commendation.

Dec 14, 2011#269

RoboKomodo

So, I've tried entering my product registration code on the site so I can subscribe and play (got my early-access invite this morning). Tells me the code has already been used...
Anyone else have this problem? Pre-ordered from Origin

Dec 14, 2011#270

AshburnerX

RoboKomodo said:
So, I've tried entering my product registration code on the site so I can subscribe and play (got my early-access invite this morning). Tells me the code has already been used...
Anyone else have this problem? Pre-ordered from Origin

That's not your product registration code, it's your pre-order code. You won't get the product code until the game ships on the 20th. You'll get an email with it then.

Dec 14, 2011#271

RoboKomodo

So why send me an early access invite if I can't have early access? I was in two of the betas as well...

Dec 14, 2011#272

AshburnerX

RoboKomodo said:
So why send me an early access invite if I can't have early access? I was in two of the betas as well...

You CAN get into the early access. I am right now and I have the digital deluxe. If they've sent you the email saying you can get in, you just need to log in.

Dec 14, 2011#273

RoboKomodo

I have the digital deluxe as well. I got the email, but I can't log in - no subscription associated with the account - can't subscribe cause I haven't redeemed a code - the only code I have is the pre-order one apparently.

EDIT: OK, so now apparently I can play. Interesting.

Dec 15, 2011#274

AshburnerX

RoboKomodo said:
I have the digital deluxe as well. I got the email, but I can't log in - no subscription associated with the account - can't subscribe cause I haven't redeemed a code - the only code I have is the pre-order one apparently.

EDIT: OK, so now apparently I can play. Interesting.

Yeah, all you needed was the email. That means they activated your account for the early access.

Dec 15, 2011#275

Gusto

I'm not a big fan of Balmorra, can't wait to

kill the admiral

and leave.

Dec 15, 2011#276

Ravenpoe

I've got the main assets downloaded, and 3gb to go on English assets.

I wish they'd give me a total complete, i have no idea if I'm close.

Dec 15, 2011#277

AshburnerX

Gusto said:
I'm not a big fan of Balmorra, can't wait to

kill the admiral

and leave.

Balmorra is a fucking lag fest, even at minimum settings. I'm literally going to do my story stuff there and leave because FUCK. THAT. SLOWDOWN.

Dec 15, 2011#278

bigcountry23

Found another chest. This one on Korriban, in the Tomb of Tulak Hord. X 57, Y 491, Z -30. 7 minute spawn, green armor and about 100 credits. Surounded by lvl 7 and 8 mobs.

Anyone know a good site to start posting this kind of stuff?

Dec 15, 2011#279

Ravenpoe

So, i just got an email from Amazon that my collectors edition has shipped, and i can expect it tomorrow.

Fuck yeah!

Dec 15, 2011#280

Dei

Balmorra didn't lag for me, but I left because I hated that planet so much.

Dec 15, 2011#281

Snuffleupagus

Gah, we got a terrible server placement. 45 minute queue sucks.

Dec 15, 2011#282

Gusto

I finished at Balmorra, and decided to start playing my Inquisitor alt, got to around level 9 or 10 and decided to call it a night.

Who am I kidding, I'll probably go back in a couple hours.

Dec 15, 2011#283

AshburnerX

Alright, just got my Bounty hunter caught up to where he was at during Beta (17 and with a ship). Time to bring my Trooper up to speed so I can get started RPing!

Dec 16, 2011#284

Ravenpoe

IT'S HERE IT'S HERE!

And holy shit, it's huge.

Please excuse the terrible image quality. Too busy basking in awesome to take a good pic.

Dec 16, 2011#285

Terrik

I'm still waiting to find out if I can actually play this from China. Not being able to play the beta from here still makes me wary.

Dec 16, 2011#286

Gusto

Snuff and I just ran trough Black Talon together, he on his cool Imperial Operative and me on my Sith Sorcerer alt. Out of 4 bosses, he got the loot from the first, and I got the loot from the next three.

It was fun and very lucrative for our guild.

Dec 16, 2011#287

Ravenpoe

Ok, let's see... when was that last post by me made? 3:30pm?

...

I just played for seven and a half hours straight...

Ok, so... I need a sith character now. And I want him to be on an RP server. Anyone got a guild I can join?

Dec 16, 2011#288

Gusto

Before I even started playing, I rolled 4 characters on my server.

Dec 16, 2011#289

Ravenpoe

I'm gonna be honest, I'm a little dazed and confused right now...

I thought it was like... 5pm. Not 11.

FUCK I WANNA PLAY AGAIN ALREADY

Dec 16, 2011#290

Gusto

I know man, I logged off 90 minutes ago and the only reason I haven't gone back in is because I know by the time I get past the server queue it'll be like 12:30am.

Dec 16, 2011#291

Ravenpoe

So seriously... I need an empire RP server. -Someone- is bound to be on one.

I could use a republic RP server too.

Dec 17, 2011#292

Ravenpoe

And now it's 3AM!

This thing is a goddamn time devourer!

Dec 17, 2011#293

RoboKomodo

What's the big difference between RP servers and the PVE/PVP servers?

Dec 17, 2011#294

SpecialKO

Need new computer to run well.

Dec 17, 2011#295

AshburnerX

RoboKomodo said:
What's the big difference between RP servers and the PVE/PVP servers?

People role play as their characters on the RP servers and they are more tightly moderated to enhance this experience. So yes... you may have your character's name reset if it's not sufficiently RP enough.

Dec 17, 2011#296

Dei

Eh, I've never in my life played on an RP server that had a large amount of RPers. It might be different for Old Republic since there's a pretty big Galaxies following, but I'm skeptical.

Dec 17, 2011#297

Ravenpoe

Dei said:
Eh, I've never in my life played on an RP server that had a large amount of RPers. It might be different for Old Republic since there's a pretty big Galaxies following, but I'm skeptical.

Moon Guard and Kirin Tor servers on wow both had very big RP populations.

Dec 18, 2011#298

AshburnerX

Dei said:
Eh, I've never in my life played on an RP server that had a large amount of RPers. It might be different for Old Republic since there's a pretty big Galaxies following, but I'm skeptical.

Virtue on City of Heroes had a ton of RPers, due to significant Dev interaction. You could literally go to Pocket D at just about any time of the day and you'd see at least three or four groups of people RPing, though it was usually more like a mob of 30-40 people... and that's not even counting the stuff that was going on in the Monkey Bar or in Super Group bases.

Dec 18, 2011#299

Frankie Williamson

So how bout them queues?

Dec 18, 2011#300

AshburnerX

Frankie Williamson said:
So how bout them queues?

Never had one yet.

Dec 18, 2011#301

RoboKomodo

Frankie Williamson said:
So how bout them queues?

I can deal with it. Longest I've waited so far is about 12 minutes so it hasn't been too bad. The SWTOR forums were rife with people whining about it. It was actually pretty amusing.

Rolled Sith last night. Got a Sorcerer to 11 in about 3.5 hours!

Dec 18, 2011#302

Frankie Williamson

The part that I think is funny is that the game isn't even officially out yet.

Dec 18, 2011#303

RoboKomodo

Frankie Williamson said:
The part that I think is funny is that the game isn't even officially out yet.

Agreed. The angst is going to be astronomical. 1000's of people demanding their money back because they have to wait ~20 minutes to play a game! I've seen it several times already. So many people complaining about how they can't get in touch with customer support or they can't even run the game. Maybe you should have checked the system requirements before you bought it!

Dec 18, 2011#304

Dei

I have 45+ min queues in primetime (which starts in early afternoon on the weekends), some servers are 2 hours+ so of course people are whining.

Dec 18, 2011#305

Gusto

The reason I'm posting here at all right now is because my game froze, I had to end the process and reopen it, and now I'll be in queue for an hour or more.

Dec 18, 2011#306

Jay

Suckah

Dec 18, 2011#307

Telephius

My server finally got a queue lol, anyways I play on Illidan Horde in WoW so its status quo for me, granted I ould rather have queue then ghost town(If I have to choose) luckily for me seems on;y going to be a 15m wait.

Dec 18, 2011#308

Dei

Just sat through a 90 min queue.

Honestly, I wouldn't care as much, except that Bioware knew how many pre-orders they had, they had a stress test which had giant queues, you'd think they'd have handled it a little better.

Dec 18, 2011#309

Jay

I don't even know why there are queues at this point.

Even better, come up with new servers and direct the new players there.

Dec 18, 2011#310

bigcountry23

Dei said:
Just sat through a 90 min queue.

Honestly, I wouldn't care as much, except that Bioware knew how many pre-orders they had, they had a stress test which had giant queues, you'd think they'd have handled it a little better.

My thought exactly. If they are this bad with the early on pre-orders (which, lets be honest, if they can do math, there should be no servers more than "heavy or Very Heavy"), what are they going to be like on Tuesday?

Dec 18, 2011#311

Telephius

Have to see if they will die down after launch, Illidan only gets queues nowawdays on patch or exansion launces. They may go the have serves have que route to prevent ghost towns once the hype dies down, and if it maintains then make more servers, thats my theory at least.

Dec 18, 2011#312

AshburnerX

They're planning for the future. They know that a lot of people buying this game aren't going to play past the 30 days, if only because of the subscription fee and the sheer time commitment it takes. To buy tons of servers just to accommodate the people who are going to leave in a month would be foolish.

Dec 19, 2011#313

bigcountry23

I'm also curious how many people will be at the "launch" events when most of the fans are already playing (and have been for a week) and how this will make them look (what if you threw a party and no one came).

Dec 19, 2011#314

@Li3n

So, i just started playing KotOR 1 again because of this game...

Why isn't KotOR 2 on steam?

Dec 19, 2011#315

figmentPez

@Li3n said:
Why isn't KotOR 2 on steam?

Who knows? There's a long list of LucasArts titles that should be on Steam: Curse of Monkey Island, Grim Fandango, Yoda Stories, Day of the Tentacle, TIE Fighter, etc, etc.

Dec 19, 2011#316

AshburnerX

It's mainly because pretty much everyone involved with the game kinda wishes it didn't exist. It was a rushed product, with incomplete quests, story branches, dialog, and more. Which is sad because the story is still hands down one of the best from Bioware/Obsidian, rivaling that of Planescape: Torment... which makes sense, as both were written by the same person.

Dec 19, 2011#317

@Li3n

KotOR 1 was just as bugged at the start for me...

And #2 was great until the final 1/4th or 1/5th of the game... after the meeting with the masters it starts being unfinished...

But i really doubt that's it... it's not like Steam doesn't have games that are buggy...

Dec 19, 2011#318

AshburnerX

@Li3n said:
KotOR 1 was just as bugged at the start for me...

And #2 was great until the final 1/4th or 1/5th of the game... after the meeting with the masters it starts being unfinished...

But i really doubt that's it... it's not like Steam doesn't have games that are buggy...

Please... Steam sells games that just plain don't work. I got Ghost Master during the Halloween sale and it doesn't work, period. I've tried updating, I've tried a No CD crack... and the only thing that seems to work 100% of the time doesn't seem to be around anymore.

Dec 19, 2011#319

Ravenpoe

I thought the story behind kotor 2 was far better than one, and hold it as one of my favorite games, ever.

It just doesn't have an ending, which sucks.

Dec 19, 2011#320

Bowielee

AshburnerX said:
Please... Steam sells games that just plain don't work. I got Ghost Master during the Halloween sale and it doesn't work, period. I've tried updating, I've tried a No CD crack... and the only thing that seems to work 100% of the time doesn't seem to be around anymore.

Hm... works just fine for me.

But I still can't get Vampire The Masquerade to run, even with patches, so just goes to show you never know how legacy games are going to react to new OS's

Dec 19, 2011#321

Frankie Williamson

If you're going to buy an old game, I find it best to check GOG first. I've never had any issue with any of their releases on modern hardware.

Dec 19, 2011#322

RoboKomodo

Frankie Williamson said:
If you're going to buy an old game, I find it best to check GOG first. I've never had any issue with any of their releases on modern hardware.

Agreed. I've bought a dozen games from GOG and never had an issue at all.

Dec 19, 2011#323

Bowielee

I bought Vampire on Steam when it was still OS appropriate

As far as microsoft OS's go, XP lasted quite a while.

Dec 19, 2011#324

AshburnerX

I'm STILL using XP. It's incredibly stable and I don't have enough ram to justify going up to a 64 bit OS yet.

Dec 19, 2011#325

Dei

I dunno, I got Vampire to work after installing the fan patches just fine on Win7 64.

Dec 19, 2011#326

Ravenpoe

Servers are down until the midnight launch.

....

Is this what the world looks like? Real life seems so strange.

I need to take a nap and eat while I can.

Dec 19, 2011#327

Telephius

Ravenpoe said:
Servers are down until the midnight launch.

....

Is this what the world looks like? Real life seems so strange.

I need to take a nap and eat while I can.

Well it is a good thing I am also still subscirbed to WoW and have a raid that conveniantly runs till server uptime. Somedays it is good to be an MMO junkie.

Dec 19, 2011#328

Dei

I can take this time to work on getting some (not coal not coal) achievements done for the Steam sale!

Dec 19, 2011#329

General Specific

I've been staring at my pc for the last hour and it hasn't given me any lightsabery goodness... why hast thou forsaken me, SWTOR?!?!? *weeps*

Dec 19, 2011#330

Dei

General Specific said:
I've been staring at my pc for the last hour and it hasn't given me any lightsabery goodness... why hast thou forsaken me, SWTOR?!?!? *weeps*

Not gonna lie, I keep going to open up the game, then I have to stop and cry instead. I may have a problem...

I have found a way to amuse myself. I'm watching my 9 year old son trying to teach my dad how to play Portal 2 Co-Op.

Dec 19, 2011#331

Snuffleupagus

I just want to keep stabbing things with knives but somebody said I can't.

Dec 19, 2011#332

RoboKomodo

WHY GOD WHY?!?!?!?!

Dec 19, 2011#333

Ravenpoe

Snuffleupagus said:
I just want to keep stabbing things with knives but somebody said I can't.

Those people were the cops. You really need to stop doing that shit.

Dec 20, 2011#334

Snuffleupagus

So, it's back up. My operative is back to stabbing.

Dec 20, 2011#335

RoboKomodo

I got on last night just a few minutes before the official launch time and the server pop was only "light". I texted my buddy that it was back up, and about 10 minutes later, he was in a queue of about 400. Craziness. My server has had a queue all day since 10 am here (I've been checking it periodically on my phone).

Dec 20, 2011#336

Puntabul

So my wife saw this on TV last night and she said "we are going to play this game". So now I get to save up money for upgrades for 2 computers. I will gladly do it too.

Dec 20, 2011#337

Jay

Disconnected from server.

Reconnected, standing in a queue of 1200, estimated time of queue? 1h20 minutes.

Fuck off.

Dec 20, 2011#338

Telephius

what server are you guys on?

Dec 20, 2011#339

RoboKomodo

I'm on Death Wind Corridor. PVP. I think that's where the official Reddit guild ended up so that's probably part of the reason why it's so busy.

Dec 20, 2011#340

Hailey Knight

Telephius said:
what server are you guys on?

A bad one, sounds like.

Dec 20, 2011#341

Gusto

Our guild got sorted to the second heaviest population server in eastern North America. The queues are easily my biggest pet peeve wit the game so far, and the second is that it takes me like 10 minutes to get from one planet's spaceport to another, but that may be a bigger problem with my computer/video card. It's time to upgrade...
Added at: 00:40
Like, the moment I get another job, I'm buying a new computer. I can onestly afford one now but it seems weird to buy something non-necessary that expensive when I'm unemployed.

Dec 20, 2011#342

Telephius

that sucks

Daragon Trail so far has not been to bad and hope its decent pop stays decent without going overwhelming. Server selection is one of the suckiest things at an MMO launch. Population is volatile and also hoping all your different social circles pick the same server and faction as you, so annoying.

Dec 21, 2011#343

Jay

I'm playing on Mind Trick with my group of friends... we went from 5 min queues to last night being over a fucken hour. Biggest pet peeve.

A understand a queue but an hour? Someone, somewhere fucked up the way new players should have been seeded.

Dec 21, 2011#344

RoboKomodo

I still see a bunch of servers with very light or standard pops. I might just roll on one of them to avoid the queues for the next week or so.

Dec 21, 2011#345

Snuffleupagus

The queue is a pain in the ass, but I just make sure I get in line as soon as I walk in the house after work and it's typically up by the time I'm finished cooking dinner.

Dec 21, 2011#346

ScytheRexx

While I really want to play this game, I decided I would rather just hold out. The server issues remind me of the issues Blizzard had on release, which is a good thing since it means huge interest, but will become a bad thing if they don't do the rapid server deployment that Blizzard did leading into the first few days of the WoW launch. I don't want to pay to sit in queues most of the time.

In the end, I want to see how it evens out. If in 6 months the game is still as popular as ever I will sign up, since I can afford at least one more subscription game. I notice a lot of MMOs these days usually release with a subscription and then within a few months revert to a F2P model, so I also want to see if that ends up happening here or not.

Either way, have fun and see you guys in the future!

Dec 21, 2011#347

RoboKomodo

Well, IMHO, I would say it'll be around a long time, and it's not going to go F2P anytime soon. They stand to make a lot more money on subs than micro-payments.

Dec 21, 2011#348

Frankie Williamson

They aren't adding any more servers, probably because they know after a month their playerbase is going to plummet (as all MMOs do). I'm sure after the first free month is done, it'll get better.

Dec 21, 2011#349

RoboKomodo

Frankie Williamson said:
They aren't adding any more servers, probably because they know after a month their playerbase is going to plummet (as all MMOs do). I'm sure after the first free month is done, it'll get better.

That seems to be the general consensus. It's nuts now cause it's new. Things will die down in a few weeks.

Dec 21, 2011#350

ScytheRexx

RoboKomodo said:
That seems to be the general consensus. It's nuts now cause it's new. Things will die down in a few weeks.

People thought that about WoW, and it just kept growing and required even more and more servers even after the first rabid deployment that happened at launch. The servers WoW has now are over four times what they had originally. I think if the game is going to be as popular as people hope it would, then they need to assume the population will keep growing rather then shrink. The hype alone should have told them that.

It may very well be that many lose interest, and they wouldn't need the extra servers in the long run, but I would rather they invest into the servers and just merge them later then have the playerbase wait in gigantic queues. They can just sell the servers again to other companies/divisions or repurpose them for other games if they find they don't need them. This is actually one of the reasons I have already given up on DCU, because I found myself stuck in a queue most nights and decided to instead play other games.

Dec 21, 2011#351

Gared

I see a lot of posts here about technical issues, which I'm always happy to know about before investing in a new game; but how's the game itself, once you get logged in?

Dec 21, 2011#352

Ravenpoe

Gared said:
I see a lot of posts here about technical issues, which I'm always happy to know about before investing in a new game; but how's the game itself, once you get logged in?

Amazing.

I've spent more time playing this game than any other game this year, and it's only a week old.

Dec 21, 2011#353

RoboKomodo

Ravenpoe said:
Amazing.

I've spent more time playing this game than any other game this year, and it's only a week old.

Same, with the exception of Skyrim I think. I had one issue during pre-launch, but it was fixed the next day. Not really sure what was happening. Other than that, it runs flawlessly, at least for me.

Dec 21, 2011#354

Jay

It's Mass Jedi Online.

Dec 21, 2011#355

ScytheRexx

Jay said:
It's Mass Jedi Online.

I am probably going to be one of the only people that makes a Soldier. Screw all you Luke, Boba, and Han wannabes.

Dec 21, 2011#356

Jay

Imperial Agents Rule!

Dec 21, 2011#357

Gared

Excellent, now I'll know what to order if/when I get bored with WoW again (though I'll likely keep paying for WoW this time so I can still qualify for my free copy of Diablo 3 and the beta for MoP). Now the only question will be whether I'll play SW:ToR or Skyrim first.

Dec 21, 2011#358

Frankie Williamson

ScytheRexx said:
People thought that about WoW, and it just kept growing and required even more and more servers even after the first rabid deployment that happened at launch. The servers WoW has now are over four times what they had originally. I think if the game is going to be as popular as people hope it would, then they need to assume the population will keep growing rather then shrink. The hype alone should have told them that.

It may very well be that many lose interest, and they wouldn't need the extra servers in the long run, but I would rather they invest into the servers and just merge them later then have the playerbase wait in gigantic queues. They can just sell the servers again to other companies/divisions or repurpose them for other games if they find they don't need them. This is actually one of the reasons I have already given up on DCU, because I found myself stuck in a queue most nights and decided to instead play other games.

And WoW is unique that way. I think Bioware and EA are smart enough to know that WoW is unique that way and aren't going to bother with buying more expensive ass servers unless they need to. I'm sure if this continues they will.

Dec 21, 2011#359

AshburnerX

ScytheRexx said:
I am probably going to be one of the only people that makes a Soldier. Screw all you Luke, Boba, and Han wannabes.

I'm really liking my Trooper. I went Vanguard, so I have some heals too, which has proven vital in the Flashpoints. Besides, the armor is awesome looking post 15.

Dec 21, 2011#360

Terrik

Question! My comp seems ok for system requirements, but from what I've heard, its really intense on the system. If I can run Skyrim on high settings, I should be able to run this too, yes?

Also, I sent an email asking if I could play in China. They responded saying they werent restricting access to their servers, so no matter where I am, I should be able to play. Oddly enough however, they don't have the same rule for their website, as their website informs me I can't buy the game because I'm not in an authorized region so...wtf mate?

Edit: To clarify--this is what I get if I try to go directly to the buying page:

Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ is not available in your region

Lawl.

Dec 21, 2011#361

RoboKomodo

AshburnerX said:
I'm really liking my Trooper. I went Vanguard, so I have some heals too, which has proven vital in the Flashpoints. Besides, the armor is awesome looking post 15.

I really like my Trooper too. My main is a Sith Inquisitor/ Sorcerer but I think I may like the Trooper just as much!

Dec 21, 2011#362

Shegokigo

Is there really gear based on Alignment? If so, that's awesome.

Dec 21, 2011#363

Gusto

Yup. I've already sent the ONLY RELIC I'VE FOUND to a friend because I'm completely Light Side and couldn't use it.

Dec 21, 2011#364

RoboKomodo

There are vendors that sell Light/Dark side restricted gear.

Dec 22, 2011#365

AshburnerX

Shegokigo said:
Is there really gear based on Alignment? If so, that's awesome.

It mostly seems to be crystals and relics, but the vendors also sell a few pieces of armor that restricted as well. I had great fun using my Dark side relic to give my character an evil red glow. When we RPed the Dark/Light decision during the Athsis Flashpoint, I used it as I urged the others to destroy the beacon and let the survivors die. Really surprised them, as they hadn't seen relics yet.

RoboKomodo said:
There are vendors that sell Light/Dark side restricted gear.

You can also get them with merits. I think it's 12 and you get a random purple relic box.

Dec 22, 2011#366

General Specific

Yes, there are lightsabers restricted to people who are certain levels into the Dark or Light. I am currently at Dark II and have found lightsabers that were restricted to Light I or above, so could not use them.

Dec 22, 2011#367

Jay

Which is neat and gay at the same time.

For example, evil Sith guy vs me and a buddy, we kill him, he drops a purple.... requires Light 2.

WTF man.

Dec 22, 2011#368

PotaDOS

So, despite my hate for EA's terrible customer service, this game was purchased for me as a gift. Now I just need to activate my key and subscription. Two hours later, I'm still trying to do so.

Cool.

Dec 22, 2011#369

Ravenpoe

PotaDOS said:
So, despite my hate for EA's terrible customer service, this game was purchased for me as a gift. Now I just need to activate my key and subscription. Two hours later, I'm still trying to do so.

Cool.

What problem are you having? If it was this morning, you may have to wait, as the servers were down for maintenance.

It took me like two minutes to activate and subscribe.

Dec 22, 2011#370

PotaDOS

IIRC, the servers returned at 8am Central, which was when I began entering my information. Each time, I would wait through 10+ minutes of a queue, enter some information on pages that were loading slower than 33.6k modem speed, then at some point receive a 503 error or a page that failed to load correctly, causing me to start over (because hitting my refresh button would point me back to the starting point). By 8:40, I had my key entered and my credit card information stored, but it took me until 10:30ish to actually confirm the subscription. That's nearly two hours of trying to load a page with a single checkbox for the Terms of Service.

I was displeased, but it did finally take, so I guess that's over.

Dec 22, 2011#371

Dei

That's called, a lot of people waiting until the last minute to register their shit, and thus all doing it at exactly the same time.

Dec 25, 2011#372

General Specific

Jay said:
Which is neat and gay at the same time.

For example, evil Sith guy vs me and a buddy, we kill him, he drops a purple.... requires Light 2.

WTF man.

And it's more than that, too. I got a small fang off of a Giant Bormu while on Ballmora.

For those who don't know, those things are the size of semi trucks with trailers.

Dec 25, 2011#373

AshburnerX

Kinda wish they had implemented the Legacy stuff already. Without any confirmation on what exactly we'll be getting, I'm not entirely sure if I should wait to start a new character (for the new face options) or do it now (and fill my Legacy bar). Also, why the hell doesn't your already acquired XP go towards Legacy?

I can confirm, however, that going from 1-17 is enough to fill your first level of Legacy to halfway.

Dec 26, 2011#374

CrimsonSoul

I worked until 10pm on the 22nd I didn't have a problem registering

Dec 27, 2011#375

AshburnerX

Just waited 30 minutes for the stupid Jawa Balloon on Tatooine to take me over the Sandcrawler so I could get the Datacrons there. I get on and wait about 20 for it get where I need it to go. It then glitches out about 5 minutes from the crawler, deposits me on the ground, and immobilizes me. I then had to run back, wait another 30 minutes for the Balloon to return, then another 25 for it to get over the crawler again.

Total time? Almost 2 hours. I am REALLY fucking glad I got both datacrons on my first go, as one of them had a datacron fragment in it.

Dec 27, 2011#376

Ravenpoe

So... After making a ton of alts, I finally have a few favorites to main, and just got my first starship.

Yeah, I don't think I'm ever going back to WoW

Oh, and if anyone is playing on the rp realm "sanctum of the exalted" then let me know, I've got republic and imperial characters there.

Dec 27, 2011#377

Gusto

AshburnerX said:
Just waited 30 minutes for the stupid Jawa Balloon on Tatooine to take me over the Sandcrawler so I could get the Datacrons there. I get on and wait about 20 for it get where I need it to go. It then glitches out about 5 minutes from the crawler, deposits me on the ground, and immobilizes me. I then had to run back, wait another 30 minutes for the Balloon to return, then another 25 for it to get over the crawler again.

Total time? Almost 2 hours. I am REALLY fucking glad I got both datacrons on my first go, as one of them had a datacron fragment in it.

This exactly happened to me, but with added frustration. The first time I rode the balloon, I got there no problem and got the matrix shard, but overjumped the ledge wen I tried to drop down to the Strength datacron.

So I quested for a bit and got back on the balloon, rode it for 15 minutes or so, but glitched through it when I alt-tabbed to turn on iTunes.

The third time I was finally successful in getting the second cron, because there were 7 other people on the balloon with me, including a Smuggler (!). Fortunately, everyone on my server knows what a pain in the ass this trip is and there's a pretty well-enforced "ceasefire" at the balloon and platform. Anyway, I watched these other people walk backwards off the crawler onto the ledge, which worked perfectly for all of us.

As far as legacy stuff, I was able to get the Gusto name.

The end of the Bounty Hunter first act was very satisfying and incredible, and left me with the greatest light side decision I've had so far.

Dec 27, 2011#378

General Specific

I gotta say that the space combat is just as fun as questing around on planets and serves wonderfully to break things up.

Dec 27, 2011#379

AshburnerX

General Specific said:
I gotta say that the space combat is just as fun as questing around on planets and serves wonderfully to break things up.

I'd do it more often if the parts weren't so fucking expensive. Maybe if more people bought my guns on the market it wouldn't be an issue...

Dec 27, 2011#380

Dei

Maybe people would buy stuff on the market if the interface for it wasn't the biggest pile of poo ever. Can't wait till the patch that fixes it. (lololol)

Dec 27, 2011#381

AshburnerX

I literally sell nothing but Exceptional Blue guns and Purple guns. These things should be FLYING off the market, especially considering modded purple stuff is generally better than most artifact stuff.

Dec 28, 2011#382

Gusto

I am SO happy that no one spoiled the Foundry for me or my friends, and that we all ran it together.

INCREDIBLY satisfying flashpoint.

Dec 28, 2011#383

Terrik

I'll be firing up my brothers account tonight to make sure this is playable from China. My family is all playing on a PVP server

Dec 28, 2011#384

Jay

Gusto said:
I am SO happy that no one spoiled the Foundry for me or my friends, and that we all ran it together.

INCREDIBLY satisfying flashpoint.

Ran it a few nights ago, fantastic,

Heck, moist Flashpoints are.

Dec 28, 2011#385

Hailey Knight

Jay said:
Ran it a few nights ago, fantastic,

Heck, moist Flashpoints are.

Been in a lot of moist flashpoints, eh?

Dec 28, 2011#386

Terrik

Quotemander Prime said:
Been in a lot of moist flashpoints, eh?

I daresay, my good lizard, you wouldn't be implying anything uncouth would you?

Dec 28, 2011#387

Telephius

Quotemander Prime said:
Been in a lot of moist flashpoints, eh?

Hammer Station in particular I bet... ;p

Dec 29, 2011#388

Gusto

Telephius said:
Hammer Station in particular I bet... ;p

Also gives new meaning to "Boarding Party" and "Mandalorian Raiders".

Dec 29, 2011#389

Jay

The Red Reamer

Jan 1, 2012#390

figmentPez

Anyone know if this is real?

Source

Jan 1, 2012#391

Vrii

If that's real, it's far and away the stupidest reason for an account action I've seen in any game. Wow.

Jan 1, 2012#392

Bowielee

Can you log onto the game? If so, it's fake. You can't even log in with a banned account. And dear god, don't click any of the links in that e-mail.
Added at: 04:51
Oh, just noticed this wasn't your account personally. I call total shananegens on this.

Jan 1, 2012#393

Mathias

Anyone into this yet? Is it casual friendly?

Jan 1, 2012#394

Ravenpoe

Mathias said:
Anyone into this yet? Is it casual friendly?

I've done nothing in my free time except play this ever since the early access week. It has eaten my life.

I'm a serious altoholic though, so my highest level character is only 27. I can't speak for how 'hardcore' it gets in endgame, but I'd say it's very casual friendly. The storyline is superb, and it can very easily be played solo, during which it feels just like a bioware epic RPG. The ability to group up for heroic missions, flashpoints, operations, and go out in space battles helps a lot to break it up, and even though I tend to play MMO's solo while leveling, the flashpoints and group missions so far have all been a lot of fun.

The ability to have dialogue with npc's while in groups, and have everyone contribute (while earning social points to boot) make them feel much more involved than WoW.

Jan 1, 2012#395

SpecialKO

Bowielee said:
Can you log onto the game? If so, it's fake. You can't even log in with a banned account. And dear god, don't click any of the links in that e-mail.
Added at: 04:51
Oh, just noticed this wasn't your account personally. I call total shananegens on this.

Going by the official thread about it, it's apparently true, but what he's not telling anyone is that he was specifically using a pvp exploit known to be a problem on Ilum (factions trading off the pvp zones with end-game comparable loot in them for infinite wealth). So Bioware apparently banned him for using the exploit, not for going to a high-level zone with a low-level toon.
Added at: 22:41
This may be the first game where I genuinely play every single class to cap. I'll likely pick one after that to keep in the end-game, but the stories are so much better than your average MMO, it's not even funny.

Jan 2, 2012#396

Ravenpoe

It's little things in this game that make me happy. Things like finding a cape for my Sith Juggernaut.

Also... Invisible bike!

Jan 2, 2012#397

Gusto

Man you have no idea how happy I was when I found a proper helmet for my Bounty Hunter. No more bike helmets or gas masks for me!

PLUS it was an epic world drop!

One feature I would like very much to be added is the possibility to hide companion head slots. I hid my shameful headwear for 25 levels, why can't I hide Mako's ridiculous leather cap?

Jan 2, 2012#398

SpecialKO

Has anyone else gotten the mini-NPC bug?

It's happened to me a couple times, I'm talking to someone, then all of a sudden they're tiny in the cutscene (which is hysterical if they're gesticulating wildly).

Jan 2, 2012#399

Snuffleupagus

Gusto said:
Man you have no idea how happy I was when I found a proper helmet for my Bounty Hunter. No more bike helmets or gas masks for me!

PLUS it was an epic world drop!

One feature I would like very much to be added is the possibility to hide companion head slots. I hid my shameful headwear for 25 levels, why can't I hide Mako's ridiculous leather cap?

I swapped out the mods in a Marauder helmet for my Operative. I'm so tired of goggles.

Jan 2, 2012#400

Jay

SpecialKO said:
Has anyone else gotten the mini-NPC bug?

It's happened to me a couple times, I'm talking to someone, then all of a sudden they're tiny in the cutscene (which is hysterical if they're gesticulating wildly).

Picture this cutscene...

Imperials.... Republic soldiers shooting at each other from their trenches wearing nothing but their underwear and shooting "air guns" pew pew pew. Meanwhile, you have a final stand off against a Master Jedi who's naked in front of you with sounds of PHEW PHEW of his sword... meanwhile I pull out a sniper rifle FROM MY ASS and shoot him down in a DARK OPTION outcome.

It was hilarious

Jan 2, 2012#401

SpecialKO

The glitches in this game are pretty epic in their own right. It's almost a shame they'll eventually get patched.

Jan 2, 2012#402

General Specific

Mathias said:
Anyone into this yet? Is it casual friendly?

I am currently lvl 41. I have played with friends on occasion, but now I am so far above them, they can't help with my missions anymore. I have solo'd most of the game, so you shouldn't have any issues.

Jan 2, 2012#403

Gusto

Even if you never do any heroic (group) quests or flashpoints, you'll still be able to level well on your own as long as you follow your storyline and pick up other quests in the same areas. Being in conversation with other people's characters is just a cool feeling.

Jan 3, 2012#404

Ravenpoe

Gusto said:
Even if you never do any heroic (group) quests or flashpoints, you'll still be able to level well on your own as long as you follow your storyline and pick up other quests in the same areas. Being in conversation with other people's characters is just a cool feeling.

I love cowering npc's on my sith lord. Group conversations add so much immersion to the game.

Jan 3, 2012#405

Snuffleupagus

My operative is such a one trick pony in pvp. It's a really nice trick but I'm still interested in seeing how he is in raids.

I may end up rolling Juggernaut as I originally intended after all.

Jan 3, 2012#406

Dei

I prefer operative healing to sith sorcerer healing. I also LOVE THE IA STORYLINE TO DEATH. >.>

Jan 3, 2012#407

AshburnerX

Sith sorcerers are WAY too fucking squishy, too the point of being unviable in PVP except as focus healers.

Jan 3, 2012#408

SpecialKO

Unfortunately, my aging system starts to die if I PVP. The attack/defense mode one is okay, but huttball is just unplayable frame-crashing madness.

Jan 3, 2012#409

AshburnerX

SpecialKO said:
Unfortunately, my aging system starts to die if I PVP. The attack/defense mode one is okay, but huttball is just unplayable frame-crashing madness.

That's what happens to me whenever they send me to the Battle of Alderan. I literally feel like I should just log out and wait for the match to end when that happens.

Jan 3, 2012#410

Shegokigo

If I were to play, it'd be the same thing I've played in nearly every MMO. A Self-Healing Tank Class.

Yes, I've been a paladin many times, not in heart but g'damn if the mechanics don't sway me. (WoW: Would have played a Death Knight but been playing the PLD so long I couldn't bring myself to change mains in Wrath.)

What's the closest aproximation to that in ToR?

Jan 3, 2012#411

AshburnerX

Shegokigo said:
If I were to play, it'd be the same thing I've played in nearly every MMO. A Self-Healing Tank Class.

Yes, I've been a paladin many times, not in heart but g'damn if the mechanics don't sway me. (WoW: Would have played a Death Knight but been playing the PLD so long I couldn't bring myself to change mains in Wrath.)

What's the closest aproximation to that in ToR?

There really isn't one, mainly because you'll always have companions that can fulfill another role for you. Basically, if you want to heal as a tank, get your companion to do it for you. If you want to tank, these are your options:

Jedi Shadow/Sith Assassin: Least tanky of the three choices, but can frontload it well. Also get some crowd control and backstabs. Starts as a Jedi Consular/Sith Inquistor.

Jedi Guardian/Sith Juggernaut: Probably the most tanky option, but needs to build up Force/Rage to do it. Don't have a lot of experience with them, but they are pretty tough. Starts as Jedi Knight/Sith Warrior.

Vanguard/Powertech: Probably the most balanced option, and the only ranged one. Mainly focuses on temporary shields and other abilities (like flamethrowers) to reduce damage coming in and increasing your own max health. Starts as Trooper/Bounty Hunter.

If you want to reliably heal yourself, your going to have to pick a more DPS focused class, unfortunately.

Jan 3, 2012#412

Shegokigo

Wait... companions?

I think I just got completely turned off to this MMO.

Might need some more info....

Jan 3, 2012#413

Dei

Every class gets NPC companions, to both do your crafting and quest with you. Think of it like playing KoTOR or Mass Effect. There are also romance options, but no gay options yet. Bioware says they are going to patch it in. For example: http://www.swtorface.com/p/bounty-hunter-companion-list.html (Bounty Hunter spoilers but only telling you who your companions are.)

Jan 3, 2012#414

Gusto

Go Bounty Hunter Powertech, Shego.

It's the Bounty Hunter tank class, and your first companion Mako can be set to dedicated healer duty.

It's what I'm doing.

Jan 3, 2012#415

AshburnerX

Shegokigo said:
Wait... companions?

I think I just got completely turned off to this MMO.

Might need some more info....

You get NPC companions that take part in your character's story in the game. They can also craft/go on material gather missions for you. Finally, your able to take one of them with you while you quest to act as support (though you can tell them to go away if you want). It's basically to make up for not having other players with you. Each companion specializes in a different thing, be it healing, DPS, or tanking.

Honestly, I was a bit worried about them too when I first started, but they are invaluable if you play by yourself a lot.

Jan 3, 2012#416

Shegokigo

That's genuinely disappointing.... I've yet to find a game that the companion system made me feel good about it.

Maybe ToR is the one, but it's already starting off on two bad feet. No self healing tank class, and compaions....

Jan 3, 2012#417

Azurephoenix

How friendly is this game to very casual players... like can only play a few hours a week casual?

Jan 3, 2012#418

Shegokigo

The casual question was literally answered within this page Azure

Jan 3, 2012#419

Ravenpoe

I really want the darkside hoodie being worn by Gabe in today's Penny-Arcade

(Warning to Mav if he still lurks: Penny-Arcade comic incoming)

Jan 3, 2012#420

SpecialKO

If it makes a difference Shego, I've heard you can torture your female Twi'lek companion if you're a Sith Warrior (I think it's the warr and not the inquis).

Anyone confirm?

Jan 3, 2012#421

Dei

Yep, you can.

Jan 3, 2012#422

Ravenpoe

SpecialKO said:
If it makes a difference Shego, I've heard you can torture your female Twi'lek companion if you're a Sith Warrior (I think it's the warr and not the inquis).

Anyone confirm?

The companion's name is Vette, and she is a thief captured and enslaved by the empire. She wears a shock collar, and you can indeed shock her. She's the first companion of the Sith Warrior.

I have to assume she likes being shocked. It's the only reason she would keep mouthing off.

Jan 3, 2012#423

Shegokigo

Interest rising sharply!

Jan 3, 2012#424

Terrik

Shegokigo said:
Interest rising sharply!

Sharply you say ? Like a knife?

Jan 3, 2012#425

Gusto

Shego, wait for same-sex relationship patch.

Play a female dark-side Sith Warrior Juggernaut (tank class) and shock the hell out of Vette. If what my friend says is true, she eventually starts to like it.

Then will come the sexy times.

Jan 3, 2012#426

Azurephoenix

Shegokigo said:
The casual question was literally answered within this page Azure

Apparently I can't read... sorry about that...

Jan 4, 2012#427

AshburnerX

Shegokigo said:
That's genuinely disappointing.... I've yet to find a game that the companion system made me feel good about it.

I'll say this much about the companions...

- I've never had one who wasn't interesting in their own right. Each have their own likes and dislikes, meaning they all respond differently to dialog choices, and it's even possible to romance them (straight only right now but same-sex IS coming). They even have companion specific missions.
- I've never felt hindered by having one. Their AI never makes them do something stupid.
- I've never felt the need to tinker with their settings. Mako knows when to heal and when to shoot. On the whole, their AI is excellent.
- Even if it wasn't, you can alter how they'll use their powers, making them activate only, auto-use, or shut-off entirely.
- Most companions have several "looks" that you can use, on top of of their clothing options.

They've clearly put a lot of effort into this system and I feel like it's a great success.

Jan 4, 2012#428

Adammon

Companions make this game far more casual than any other MMO before it. Typically you'll have a companion that complements your skillset perfectly. As a Jedi Sage (healing), I was paired with a tanking Trandoshan. On my Trooper Vanguard, I had a Trooper healer (class name escapes me). Occasionally the companions can be a bit of a pain in the ass (My trandoshan companion uses his AOE taunt and breaks my CCs. I've turned it off, but if he dies, it always turns itself back on, known glitch to be fixed) but overall they make the game tolerable to those of us who don't necessarily want to have to pair off in order to get through any quests. I'm currently level 31 and while some missions can be a challenge, I never felt I needed another person to help me with a mission; unless it was a Heroic area or a Flashpoint, in which case it says on the mission "Heroic 2+" or "Heroic 4". And even with some of those, if you're far enough along in level or are that good a player, you can probably do it with just your companion.

Overall the game has appeal for people who care about story, but I think BW has made some critical missteps on server populations, releasing a (very) unfinished product despite a lengthy beta, and the fun little pieces that made WoW an enjoyable experience. I could detail them but it would be a long list. The game itself is fun and the soundtrack is great but I do have some concerns about my longevity in the game.

Jan 4, 2012#429

Jay

Hit 50 last night. Waiting on guildies now who are mostly mid 30 to early 40ies.

Jan 4, 2012#430

ScytheRexx

My urge to play this game rises by the day. Maybe I can just cancel my cable for awhile. :awesome:

Jan 4, 2012#431

AshburnerX

I currently have...

- Lvl 31 Commando
- Lvl 20 Jedi Shadow
- Lvl 21 Powertech
- Lvl 13 Sith Sorcerer

... mainly because one of my friends has been infuriating me by expecting me to keep certain characters within certain ranges (so I don't outpace her and effect her gain), while simultaneously being unable to decide if she "really" wants to play with me or not. So I have to play on other characters whenever she's off doing something else.

Jan 4, 2012#432

Shegokigo

@Scytherexx - Between WoW and ToR you wouldn't have time for TV anyway

Jan 4, 2012#433

ScytheRexx

That is not even counting the other twenty games I want to play but have yet to gather the time for, plus other hobbies, housework, wife, etc... LIFE? Y U NO GIVE MOAR FREETIME.

Jan 4, 2012#434

Shegokigo

Hell by the time I get home from work, make dinner, work out, sit at my computer and do some basic daily WoW stuff (Daily PVP, 12 Daily quests, 1-3 heroic dungeon runs for Valor, 1-3 Old world raids for transmog gear)? It's 1am and I'm back to bed to restart the cycle.

Jan 4, 2012#435

AshburnerX

Shegokigo said:
Hell by the time I get home from work, make dinner, work out, sit at my computer and do some basic daily WoW stuff (Daily PVP, 12 Daily quests, 1-3 heroic dungeon runs for Valor, 1-3 Old world raids for transmog gear)? It's 1am and I'm back to bed to restart the cycle.

See, this is the point when you need to decide if it's worth having to pay $15 a month for a second job.

Jan 4, 2012#436

Shegokigo

Um, I have fun doing all of that though...

I'm one of those 100% gung-ho loving everything about WoW players atm. I love the new instances, I love continully growing a character I've nurtured over 6+yrs, I love the lore and novels, and am much anticipating Mists xpac.

Jan 4, 2012#437

ScytheRexx

AshburnerX said:
See, this is the point when you need to decide if it's worth having to pay $15 a month for a second job.

It seems a bit brash to jump the gun and assume she was not having fun doing the things she mentioned. I have fun doing many of the same things, often playing together with my wife or guild.

Jan 4, 2012#438

AshburnerX

Well, yeah, if your still having fun that go ahead. I just know a lot of people who do that and aren't, but feel obligated to for some reason.

Also, just saw this.

Jan 4, 2012#439

Shegokigo

ScytheRexx said:
It seems a bit brash to jump the gun and assume she was not having fun doing the things she mentioned. I have fun doing many of the same things, often playing together with my wife or guild.

Yeah, my brother and I burn through the older raids 2 (PLD me, DK him) manning all of them. It's a freakin blast to see what we get every week. Some nice drops so far, he got an offhand Glaive, nearly full sets of Tiers 1,2, 4-10, getting old achievements we missed etc. unfortunately no luck on mounts so far with Kael, Attune etc.

The dailies I do to keep my income high and to complete some of the more offbeat achievements I never got. The heroics I do for Valor to get better gear or sell BoEs, the daily PVP I do for conquest points (Have you seen how awesome the latest pvp set is for PLD???) and all around just enjoy the world as a whole.

Jan 4, 2012#440

ScytheRexx

AshburnerX said:
Well, yeah, if your still having fun that go ahead. I just know a lot of people who do that and aren't, but feel obligated to for some reason.[/media]

Well that is a personal issue, one they need to work out. I always stand by the stance that if you don't enjoy a game, you should stop playing. I know someday that will happen with myself and WoW. Maybe it will even happen sometime not far after Mists comes out, who knows, but I know it will happen and accept that.

One of the biggest reasons I am holding off on TOR is not just money. My biggest worry is that all the things that people tell me are awesome, like the combat, companions, spaceship, dialogue, etc... It all just makes me feel like it should have been a single player game continuing the KOTOR series. Considering the added money and time barriers, that just feels like a detriment to me, rather then a boon. I know that is mostly me being unfair though, so I am trying to keep an open mind about it.

I may actually just get it this weekend, at least to try out a few characters just so I know which one has the coolest companions.

Jan 4, 2012#441

SpecialKO

Only started last weekend so I only have a lvl 13 Mercenary, lvl 9 Knight, and a lvl 5 Trooper. I know I'll play through them all eventually, so it's mostly going to matter which server I have the most friends on.

Jan 4, 2012#442

Adammon

ScytheRexx said:
One of the biggest reasons I am holding off on TOR is not just money. My biggest worry is that all the things that people tell me are awesome, like the combat, companions, spaceship, dialogue, etc... It all just makes me feel like it should have been a single player game continuing the KOTOR series. Considering the added money and time barriers, that just feels like a detriment to me, rather then a boon. I know that is mostly me being unfair though, so I am trying to keep an open mind about it.

Yes. I have yet to find anything particularly noteworthy that required an MMO. As a single player game, it is very good. As an MMO, I turn off general chat and pretend it's an MMO with really smart AI running around.

Jan 4, 2012#443

Gusto

I love the single player content but playing games with my friends even intermittently is a big deal for me these days. Loving dem flashpoints.

Jan 4, 2012#444

bigcountry23

Awaiting the Ban hammer, I spent many hours in Ilum between 25-35 ammassing wealth in a way that apparently has been determined game breaking.

http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20120103

Jan 4, 2012#445

AshburnerX

If your just selling the stuff to vendors, then whatever, but if your putting that stuff on the auction house (like some people were) then yes, EA and Bioware have a reason to be afraid of you messing up the market. I'm actually impressed to see them taking such an active interest in regulating the economy, as most devs would have just said "Fuck it" and let the player base go nuts.

I've seen the markets of too many games get completely ruined by a shitty economy. On the market in City of Heroes, it would often cost me hundreds of billions of Influence/Infamy to get the recipes and parts I needed for a build... and for reference, it would take about 2 hours of dedicated grinding to get maybe 1.5-2 million Influence/Infamy.

Jan 4, 2012#446

Ravenpoe

From what I understand, just going to that area and looting isn't what they're temp-banning for. The exploit in question involves stealthing into a high level area and abusing the pvp system in order to continually loot a specific container.

I haven't even been to Ilum yet, so I'm not sure what it is.

Jan 4, 2012#447

SpecialKO

It's speculation since BW isn't saying, but supposedly the idea is that they (and some number of guys on the other side) were flipping the PvP zone in a rapid coordinated fashion to quickly respawn the "win" chests over and over again and then loot them with low-level characters that were standing in place.

That's a pretty clear exploit.

Jan 4, 2012#448

AshburnerX

Ravenpoe said:
From what I understand, just going to that area and looting isn't what they're temp-banning for. The exploit in question involves stealthing into a high level area and abusing the pvp system in order to continually loot a specific container.

I haven't even been to Ilum yet, so I'm not sure what it is.

This is part of it. There were also players hitting the slicing containers for obscene credit amounts in those zones.

However, what they were ALSO doing is using the money to corner the market on certain goods, in order to drive up prices for later profits. Well, except the ones who were selling the credits for dollars...

Jan 4, 2012#449

Gared

I gotta say, so far I'm loving the game. There are (understandably) some bugs that need to be worked out, but we're in what, the third official week of the game? BW has made some choices that are kind of confusing, like the fact that you can't search for items on the auction house by name, or even search for armor by slot; and the one that really pissed me off (for like, 5 seconds) when I accidentally bought the wrong item with my Coruscant commendations and found out that selling commendation items back to the original vendor only nets credits instead of giving you back the commendations you spent on it - but it wasn't a big deal and I'll be more careful in the future. I really wish they had broken away from the EA standard of unsearchable forums and no dedicated tech support forum - if I can't find what I'm looking for in the FAQ my only choices are to call them or to fire up the magical Google machine and hope someone else had the same problem and posted about it elsewhere. But I haven't had a lot of problems with the game, overall. I haven't even had to turn off shadows like so many people whose computers are "top of the line" but can't run the game smoothly. Of course, I haven't done any PvP, Heroics, or Flashpoints yet, so that may change.

I do like that there's so much dialogue and good background music and interesting cut scenes. This is about the only game I play where I don't feel the need to run Netflix in the background so I have something to distract me from ambient household noise and to fill in the gaps between music starts and stops and cut scenes. I am mildly annoyed right now that I have to choose between having a healer companion and listening to Carlton Lassiter (Psych) endlessly commenting about my leadership style. Great choice of voice actor for that one.

Jan 4, 2012#450

Terrik

I found out that I have to run a proxy to connect to the patching server when you open the launcher, but after THAT I can play the game without a proxy. My computer ran it reasonably I suppose, but not at high graphics. Just ordered a new gaming laptop with dual 2GB GeForce GTX 580Ms, so if that isn't enough, I don't know what will be. I played about an hour as an Imperial agent and I had a good time. My brother who's playing on Twin Spire told me the only disappointing thing he's run into is that nearly everyone on his server rolled up Sith, making some of the PVP rather lopsided.

Jan 4, 2012#451

Ravenpoe

I just finished the first major 'chapter' of my Sith Juggernaut's story, unlocking my legacy. And HOLY CRAP that was some awesome shit. It's interesting to see 'dark side' choices done so well, and to be treated as a viable philosophy alternative to the jedi (ignoring the crazy murderers).

Jan 4, 2012#452

Gusto

It's an MMO. Everyone's a crazy murderer, even if you play a saint.

I was telling my friends that it's interesting to play as a light side Bounty Hunter, work through a target's base killing 50 of his soldiers and underlings, and then showing him mercy when you actually get to make a moral choice (freezing him in carbonite). According to the game, those 50 dudes you killed were morally neutral.

Until I started Chapter 2,

I had actually killed less bounties than I had killed rival hunters.

Jan 5, 2012#453

Terrik

I still can't wrap my head around the fact you can play a Light side Sith jedi. I just..I just don't know how that works.

Jan 5, 2012#454

AshburnerX

Terrik said:
I still can't wrap my head around the fact you can play a Light side Sith jedi. I just..I just don't know how that works.

Light Side Sith are basically more focused on the war effort than on their own petty whims. It works out pretty well actually.

Jan 5, 2012#455

Ravenpoe

You can be a Light Side Sith. Sith Jedi would be a paradox, as the philosophies are opposites.

To be sith, you don't necessarily have to be evil. You just draw your strength from passion. You could be passionate about justice, or the empire, or insert RP reasons here.

Jan 5, 2012#456

Gusto

It boggles MY mind that you can have romance options as a Jedi! I'm gonna wait until the same-sex patch comes out for maximum Jedi Council controversy.

Jan 5, 2012#457

AshburnerX

Gusto said:
It boggles MY mind that you can have romance options as a Jedi! I'm gonna wait until the same-sex patch comes out for maximum Jedi Council controversy.

Isn't that making an assumption about civilization thousands of years ago, in a part of the universe that wasn't influenced by Christian ideology? It's just as likely that, considering the thousands of species out there, homosexuality isn't that unusual in cultures of their galaxy.

Jan 5, 2012#458

SpecialKO

I like that when you consider it, being a Light Sith or Dark Jedi in a giant galaxy full of thousands of them actually makes a lot of sense in the SWTOR era. At that point, if you were a Force user, you're essentially being born into one or the other whatever your inclination. Maybe you're not a evil bastard or zen monk, but by the time you've developed into an adult, you're basically a Jedi or a Sith - you just may not be an ideal one according to your teachers.

Jan 5, 2012#459

Ravenpoe

I didn't party my Jedi guardian very far, but I did pursue done early romance options with him. When I told my master about it, he didn't say I had to break it off, but that it was against the Jedi code and to be careful. Sort of a "everyone's human" sort of moment.. Even though I was a twi'lek.

Of course, then she betrayed me, and stupid master turned out to be right.

Jan 5, 2012#460

@Li3n

Gusto said:
It boggles MY mind that you can have romance options as a Jedi!

Pretty sure the Old Republic comics actually had Jedi family dynasties... And what's her name Shan is an actual direct descendant of Bastila from KotOR 1...

EDIT: And Revan was the baby daddy officially: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Satele_Shan

I still want KotOR 3 dammit... let Obsidian do it and let them actually finish the game this time...

Jan 5, 2012#461

Adammon

TOR is basically KotOR 3. Painfully so in some cases.

Jan 5, 2012#462

Frankie Williamson

Adammon said:
TOR is basically KotOR 3. Painfully so in some cases.

And that will be the ONLY thing that makes me play it eventually.

Jan 5, 2012#463

Adammon

Frankie Williamson said:
And that will be the ONLY thing that makes me play it eventually.

When it is eventually cracked, I'll set up a private server for you and you won't even notice that it's supposed to be an MMORPG.

Jan 5, 2012#464

@Li3n

Adammon said:
TOR is basically KotOR 3. Painfully so in some cases.

Yeah, gameplay wise that was obvious... but i wanted a sequel that dealt with a closer time, and with what Revan and the Exile where up to after...

Unfortunately it looks like they already wrote a book about it... and he's in TOR now... meh.

EDIT:

And you kill HK-47... NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Although i assume that like all SW games the darkside stuff won't be cannon...

Jan 5, 2012#465

AshburnerX

@Li3n said:
EDIT:

And you kill HK-47... NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No you don't. He's still around as of Star Wars Galaxies, which is still canon the last time I checked.

Jan 5, 2012#466

@Li3n

AshburnerX said:
No you don't. He's still around as of Star Wars Galaxies, which is still canon the last time I checked.

Well he does mention that he can be rebuilt...

And they show Revan face... lame.

Jan 7, 2012#467

Gusto

Boom, level 50. Have a few more missions on Corellia, then I'll go and finish up Chapter 3.

Jan 8, 2012#468

Jay

I hate Huttball.

Wish my server had more Pubs.... tired... of...Huttball.

Jan 8, 2012#469

Dei

I got a sorc to 50, got really frustrated at the fact that we kept losing at warzones, went on an alt spree.

Jan 9, 2012#470

Snuffleupagus

I hit 50 Sunday morning. Ilum is the first planet I truly dislike.

I need to run some flashpoints or something I've been in total tunnel vision from 45-50 and now that I'm back to healer spec I need some practice.

Jan 9, 2012#471

Dei

I tried to be healer spec, but there was 2 things that irritated me.
1.) It was exactly like playing a WoW priest (except for)
2.) The healer UI is a piece of crap. Which was true in WoW as well, but at least if you didn't have any mods to make it better you could at least have mouseover macros.

I have been leveling an Op as a healer with my husband's jugg, and I find I like Op healing so much more. Though I almost wish he had made a Sith Assassin tank so that we could just stealth everywhere.

Jan 9, 2012#472

Snuffleupagus

Yeah, I'm an Op and it definitely feels different to heal with an energy bar instead of a mana pool. I enjoy it but trying to solo the Ilum missions with groups of 2 or 3 strong enemies is rough.

Jan 9, 2012#473

Jay

Ran about 5 instances with a few guildies yesterday... was a total Sniper fest. I got at least 6 pieces of gear, 3 pieces of Columi. Good day.

Sniping is fun.

Jan 9, 2012#474

Dei

Snuffleupagus said:
Yeah, I'm an Op and it definitely feels different to heal with an energy bar instead of a mana pool. I enjoy it but trying to solo the Ilum missions with groups of 2 or 3 strong enemies is rough.

I find that as long as I keep my tank companion's gear up to date, I can manage all kinds of stupid things as heal spec. It takes me FOREVER, but things will eventually die. (I learned this the hard way when I was lower level and let Khem Val's gear fall behind.)

Jan 9, 2012#475

Adammon

Healing spec while levelling is horribly painful, just like it is in every other MMO

My poor Jedi Sage gets no love as a result. At least in WoW, my disc based priest was powerful enough to take on most; in SWTOR I can basically heal myself forever and wait for the badguys to die of old age.

Jan 9, 2012#476

Gusto

Man I fought a silver mob that did that on Corellia. He had a good amount of health and two different healing techniques, and as a Bounty Hunter, I only have 2 interrupts, one of which is a minute-long cooldown. PLUS mobs don't have a mana/energy/force bar that can run out, and I was at max heat pretty quickly.

As a result, every thirty seconds, I would get a net 300-500 hp from the guy. I fought him for 7 solid minutes. And with him focussing on healing himself so much, and Mako healing me, I never went below like 98% health.

It was the most frustrating pull I've had.

Fortunately there was only one other mob like tat in te area and he was easily avoidable.

Jan 9, 2012#477

Vrii

Powertech bounty hunter is the most fun I've had since playing a prot paladin in burning crusade. This is amazing.

Jan 9, 2012#478

Snuffleupagus

Well, I just started a Jugg to play in between warzones.

Healing warzones as a healing Op is hilarious. I stealth into a blind corner and heal my ass off until everything is dead then I re-stealth and do it again. Some trooper spent a solid 5 minutes trying to find me hiding in mid because he saw me at the last second of a 10 person melee.

Ninja heals.

Jan 10, 2012#479

Adammon

Gusto said:
For anyone who is interested, or may be interested at a later time, my Imperial guild I Bent My Wookiee will be forming on the PVP server Iron Citadel.

Hope to see you there!

How does one get an invite say if my IA Healer Ingoodhands was on this server?

Jan 11, 2012#480

Gusto

Adammon said:
How does one get an invite say if my IA Healer Ingoodhands was on this server?

If you want an invite, whisper Errik (me), or Lysandra, Splinter, Ouranos, or Noristavis, and tell them you know Kevin.

Jan 13, 2012#481

Gared

I kinda has a sad... I didn't really come into SW:TOR expecting much - I have a deep seated resentment of EA stemming from all of the crap they've produced recently (not to mention the colossal dick-monster flop that was Spore), plus their forum policies, and their complete and utter rejection of decent tech support standards; and a deep seated resentment of Lucas and his bullshit midichlorians (sp?), Jar-Jar, and smug sense of self-entitlement and self-importance. I mean, seriously dude, you made three awesome movies... over 20 years ago. Hell the third (original) movie released almost 30 years ago!

Regardless, I tried to come in just expecting a good game, not trying to hold it up to the original movies or to any other games out there and have fun with it on its own merits. I've come away bored with the game even faster than I got bored with Rift. I haven't even had the game for 2 weeks and it's just coming off as meh to me. And I think one of the things that annoys me the most is this whole companion thing. Sure, in other games there are classes that can have constant companions, but not all classes always rely on the fact that you do have constant companions, unlike SW:TOR. Why does my big bad-ass tank need a shooter companion? Why does my stupid head-tress alien seem to think it's wise to constantly pull targets away from me when I'm trying to wail on them with my Sith Warrior, then bitch about the fact that she's dying? Why can't my evil-to-the-core Pureblood Sith cut her down where she stands for being so insolent? Yeah, I know, I can use my other companion or "punish" her, but it's not like she learns from her mistakes. Why are so many of the dark side choices in the SW story-arc counter-productive for the empire? And why the hell are all of the Republic character such frickin' pansies? It's like we're playing frickin' hippy-pacifist-loons. "Oh, please don't hurt me Mr. Sith, I promise I'll be good and will leave this sector even though you're slaughtering the citizens whole-sale and corrupting children and running slaves."

Bah. Bah I say. Can't anyone put out a good game these days? If I want a challenge, do I really have to go back to playing Diablo II, or the original Starcraft, or WC III, or any game from any company before EA or Activision took them over?

Jan 13, 2012#482

Ravenpoe

Gared said:
*snip*

You don't like Vette? Maybe you just don't have a soul

Though, more seriously, maybe it just isn't for you? Did you enjoy any of the KOTOR games?

Jan 13, 2012#483

@Li3n

Gared said:
Why are so many of the dark side choices in the SW story-arc counter-productive for the empire?

But are they productive for you?

Because that's what the dark side is... well that and cookies.

Jan 13, 2012#484

Gared

See, I do like Vette (though I wish she weren't so anti-dark side. I mean seriously, why is the first companion for SW a goody-two-shoes failure of an assassin?), I just wish I didn't have to choose between keeping her happy and staying evil.

But are they productive for you?

Because that's what the dark side is... well that and cookies.

Sometimes they are, and sometimes they aren't. I'd like the opportunity to play an intelligent but evil Sith Warrior, who does have the best interests of the empire in mind. Sometimes I feel like my only real choice is to either be a light-side Sith who wants the empire to succeed or a dark-side Sith who's all "herp derp, don't care if this loses the empire money/power/respect/etc., I's evil and it's what I says that goes."

It could be that the game's just not for me. Sad to find that out only after dropping $60 on it, but that's the way it goes, I guess. Just gotta remember to cancel before my monthly billing starts up.

Jan 13, 2012#485

Ravenpoe

My Sith Juggernaut is full darkside, a total evil tyrant, and Vette loves him. She's even become much more self-assured, taking charge of her own life, and obediently follows her lord on mass murder sprees.

Jan 13, 2012#486

Dei

I haven't really seen a huge advantage to being fully light side or dark side. Even the light/dark vendors suck, and the lvl 50 stuff is moral neutral anyways, so IMO just make whatever decisions you want and fuck it.

Jan 13, 2012#487

Gared

Huh. Maybe I need to slap her around more... or my problem could be the one time I chose not to kill someone, and she remarked at how kind I'd been, and I chose a chat option that I thought would come out as something along the lines of "evil me will be back soon," but instead it came out as "don't expect it to apply to you" so now she thinks I'm just mean to her.

Not that it really matters. The game itself is starting to bore me, so getting Vette to like me isn't really likely to change things.

Jan 13, 2012#488

Adammon

I wish the game designers would have the characters literally say what you chose in the spin wheel. Too often I chose something that I interpreted as a sarcastic response to a stupid question; and the character said something that was similar enough to see that it could be interpreted that way, but nowhere near what my intention was.

Jan 13, 2012#489

Dei

I hate the fact that light side/dark side options mostly come down to "smart choice, and stupid choice". I think the IA storyline for the *most* part does light side/dark side the right way, but the Inquisitor and Consular story lines boiled down to "Kill him/Don't kill him", which was basically stupidity. And don't even get me started on the light side/dark side options for generic planet quests...

Jan 13, 2012#490

@Li3n

Gared said:
Sometimes they are, and sometimes they aren't.

Actually that's pretty good, as long as they do initially appear to favour you the most...

Gared said:
I'd like the opportunity to play an intelligent but evil Sith Warrior, who does have the best interests of the empire in mind. Sometimes I feel like my only real choice is to either be a light-side Sith who wants the empire to succeed or a dark-side Sith who's all "herp derp, don't care if this loses the empire money/power/respect/etc., I's evil and it's what I says that goes."

Well if all the DS choices hurt the Empire, then it's a problem... if not then the real problem is the fact that having both light and dark points isn't different from having only one type...

Otherwise, a computer game will always be pretty much unable to differentiate from helping others out of goodness and doing it because it's advantageous for you...

Jan 13, 2012#491

Gared

@Li3n said:
Actually that's pretty good, as long as they do initially appear to favour you the most...

Well if all the DS choices hurt the Empire, then it's a problem... if not then the real problem is the fact that having both light and dark points isn't different from having only one type...

Otherwise, a computer game will always be pretty much unable to differentiate from helping others out of goodness and doing it because it's advantageous for you...

I agree. I just think that there are some issues with the way BioWare designed the dark side factions. Some of the choices are pretty stupid, like chastising you for recommending that an assassin who failed in her mission be killed because "a good tool is a useful thing." How is someone who failed in her assassination mission a "good tool?" She failed for cryin' out loud. If she'd been arrested after killing her target, that'd be different, but if I wanted to send someone to fail to kill a republic agent, I'd send an apprentice, or any of the imperial soldiers I run into on missions, or my master - he's pretty friggin' useless. It just seems to me like they got a really "in-touch with their dark side" programmer to do the initial programming and then someone came along afterward and said "You know... there are going to be kids playing this game and we can't have them thinking that we're OK with all of these choices. We better brighten things up a little, this is too dark." So now you just have a mess.

Jan 13, 2012#492

Gusto

Dark Side decisions that seem to piss people off will often come around your way in the mail.

I've made Light Side decisions with my Bounty Hunter that, following the laws of unintended consequences, have ruined the lives of NPCs.

Jan 13, 2012#493

Ravenpoe

I actually liked that little conversation about the failed assassin. Killing her was the 'dark side' option that earned her darkside points on your morality scale, but it wasn't the choice your master hoped you would pick. That was a very early quest, and the purpose of it was to show that the empire isn't all murder all the time, and that sometimes even mercy can be a tool of the dark side, if it benefits you in the end.

And hey, if you -want- to murder her anyway, then you're free to, and you can tell your master to piss off. Because you're goddamn sith.

Jan 13, 2012#494

Gusto

Yeah the early Sith Warrior quests actually helped teach me how to play Dark Side Sith: be ruthless, be intelligent, and above all, be decisive.

Jan 13, 2012#495

General Specific

Got my Marauder to 50 last night, tonight I

killed Darth Baras. He's really tough, so bring a friend to heal you.

Jan 16, 2012#496

Bowielee

So, we're a little bit into full release on this game. What's the concensus on it. Worth it or not?

Jan 16, 2012#497

Ravenpoe

Bowielee said:
So, we're a little bit into full release on this game. What's the concensus on it. Worth it or not?

Can't answer. Too busy playing.

Jan 16, 2012#498

@Li3n

Gusto said:
I've made Light Side decisions with my Bounty Hunter that, following the laws of unintended consequences, have ruined the lives of NPCs.

~~Kreia~~ Darth Traya approves...

Jan 16, 2012#499

Vrii

I'm enjoying it too. Not sure on endgame yet, just hit 50 - but the leveling is fun and enjoyable, particularly by mmo standards.

Jan 16, 2012#500

Bowielee

Actually, the leveling being fun is what's most important to me. I'm not big on endgame grinding.

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